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    Sec of Treas??? Are you kidding me???

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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2016 - 6:19 PM ET #51

    BTW Filing multiple corporate bankruptcies does absolutely nothing to help the American working man.  Ironically it is quite the opposite. Unfortunately I know this all to well as I had another billionaire do this to me and my small business to get out of paying me and hundreds of other creditors.
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    BTW Filing multiple corporate bankruptcies does absolutely nothing to help the American working man.  Ironically it is quite the opposite. Unfortunately I know this all to well as I had another billionaire do this to me and my small business to get out of paying me and hundreds of other creditors.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2016 - 7:43 PM ET #52

    Bettingforfun said, "Mnuchin is EXACTLY the status quo.  He is a Wall Street insider that made millions of dollars at the expense of the middle class.  Nothing has changed with his pick for Secretary of Treasury.  As I said before "out with a Goldman and in with a new one".  No matter how you slice it it's business as usual."

    That is exactly right.  Trump idea of "draining the swamp" is replacing them with Creatures from the Bleak Lagoon.
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    Bettingforfun said, "Mnuchin is EXACTLY the status quo.  He is a Wall Street insider that made millions of dollars at the expense of the middle class.  Nothing has changed with his pick for Secretary of Treasury.  As I said before "out with a Goldman and in with a new one".  No matter how you slice it it's business as usual."

    That is exactly right.  Trump idea of "draining the swamp" is replacing them with Creatures from the Bleak Lagoon.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2016 - 11:06 PM ET #53

    For Christ's sake.. when we talk of draining the swamp, can we agree that we are talking about career politicians that care  nothing about themselves, and their re-election in their own districts ?

    Hello, porkbelly spending and special interests.    These appointments have nothing to do w/ that.  They are out in 4 or 8 years w/ Trump.    Make sense ?

    BTW, I have no problem filling the cabinet with people that have experience, as opposed to people that are merely filling out the ethnic & gender box.  (right O'bama ?).  This isn't the united nations.  We are putting the most qualified individuals in these positions.


    Down with Regulation

    Down with O'bamacare

    Down with personal income taxes

    Down with business taxes.

    Funny how that doesn't sound so  bad... Right ?  


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    For Christ's sake.. when we talk of draining the swamp, can we agree that we are talking about career politicians that care  nothing about themselves, and their re-election in their own districts ?

    Hello, porkbelly spending and special interests.    These appointments have nothing to do w/ that.  They are out in 4 or 8 years w/ Trump.    Make sense ?

    BTW, I have no problem filling the cabinet with people that have experience, as opposed to people that are merely filling out the ethnic & gender box.  (right O'bama ?).  This isn't the united nations.  We are putting the most qualified individuals in these positions.


    Down with Regulation

    Down with O'bamacare

    Down with personal income taxes

    Down with business taxes.

    Funny how that doesn't sound so  bad... Right ?  


     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2016 - 11:16 PM ET #54

    *Correction ; career politicians care about nothing EXCEPT for  themselves
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    *Correction ; career politicians care about nothing EXCEPT for  themselves
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2016 - 12:33 AM ET #55

    No, draining the swamp means not appointing corrupt people to positions of financial power.  Which Trump has done.  I challenge you or anyone else for that matter to check this guy out.  He is a Wall Street insider with a shady past at best.  Don't take my word for it check it out yourself.

    Are you trying to tell us that they can't do any harm because they will only be there for 4-8 years?  Why all the fuss over Obama then?

    PS. Without some kinds of regulation we will be looking at even more shenanigans such as we had when we crumbled in 2007.  Common sense proves this.
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    No, draining the swamp means not appointing corrupt people to positions of financial power.  Which Trump has done.  I challenge you or anyone else for that matter to check this guy out.  He is a Wall Street insider with a shady past at best.  Don't take my word for it check it out yourself.

    Are you trying to tell us that they can't do any harm because they will only be there for 4-8 years?  Why all the fuss over Obama then?

    PS. Without some kinds of regulation we will be looking at even more shenanigans such as we had when we crumbled in 2007.  Common sense proves this.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 2:24 PM ET #56

    How many more Goldman people can Donny possibly appoint?  This is just silly now.  Might as well just move the Presidency to Goldman headquarters.

    Goldman is as financially corrupt as one can possibly get.  The absolute KINGS of the short.  You hear that?  That's the swamp overflowing while the rich gets richer.  If you are middle class just bend over and grab the ankles............Donny is right behind you.
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    How many more Goldman people can Donny possibly appoint?  This is just silly now.  Might as well just move the Presidency to Goldman headquarters.

    Goldman is as financially corrupt as one can possibly get.  The absolute KINGS of the short.  You hear that?  That's the swamp overflowing while the rich gets richer.  If you are middle class just bend over and grab the ankles............Donny is right behind you.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 10:26 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    haha..700k a year is what sealed the deal, you are kidding yourself to think it had anything else to do but financial incentives.My prediction is Carrier will end up shuttering or move during his 4 years even with this free money.I bet Apple would move production over to the US if you gave them 100 billion dollars in tax breaks..
    sorry bettingforfun for staying on this topic but it all goes to the idea of screwing the taxpayers.maybe i'm wrong, but what i don;t get is that carrier's parent company is united technologies that has $6.7 billion in federal contracts.  that's a huge amount of leverage trump had for these "negotiations".  how do you have that kind of leverage and end with a deal that loses more than 1000 jobs to mexico (more than half of what carrier originally planned) and carrier still gets a big tax break that the taxpayers have to pay for.  it seems impossible to darn up your leverage that badly unless this is just pure corporate welfare.  what am i missing?

    Nothing,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    haha..700k a year is what sealed the deal, you are kidding yourself to think it had anything else to do but financial incentives.My prediction is Carrier will end up shuttering or move during his 4 years even with this free money.I bet Apple would move production over to the US if you gave them 100 billion dollars in tax breaks..
    sorry bettingforfun for staying on this topic but it all goes to the idea of screwing the taxpayers.maybe i'm wrong, but what i don;t get is that carrier's parent company is united technologies that has $6.7 billion in federal contracts.  that's a huge amount of leverage trump had for these "negotiations".  how do you have that kind of leverage and end with a deal that loses more than 1000 jobs to mexico (more than half of what carrier originally planned) and carrier still gets a big tax break that the taxpayers have to pay for.  it seems impossible to darn up your leverage that badly unless this is just pure corporate welfare.  what am i missing?

    Nothing,
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 10:41 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    I'm stunned by that that pick also. C'mon Don, you can do better than that.

    Did you really in your wildest dreams believe he was going to anything to help you, me or anyone else but himself and the billionaire class? I can't believe so many people can be so gullible. You won't need his laughable wall. When he's done wages will be the same here as Mexico. The EPA will be dismantled allowing big Corpo to poison the air and water. Say hello again to Jim Crow, or states rights as they like to call it. And who knows what may happen on the international scene. That's really scary. The only thing that may save us is the corporate giants themselves. Trump's insanity may play havoc with the stock market. If that happens they'll do whatever they have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    I'm stunned by that that pick also. C'mon Don, you can do better than that.

    Did you really in your wildest dreams believe he was going to anything to help you, me or anyone else but himself and the billionaire class? I can't believe so many people can be so gullible. You won't need his laughable wall. When he's done wages will be the same here as Mexico. The EPA will be dismantled allowing big Corpo to poison the air and water. Say hello again to Jim Crow, or states rights as they like to call it. And who knows what may happen on the international scene. That's really scary. The only thing that may save us is the corporate giants themselves. Trump's insanity may play havoc with the stock market. If that happens they'll do whatever they have to.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 11:22 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    How many more Goldman people can Donny possibly appoint?  This is just silly now.  Might as well just move the Presidency to Goldman headquarters.

    Goldman is as financially corrupt as one can possibly get.  The absolute KINGS of the short.  You hear that?  That's the swamp overflowing while the rich gets richer.  If you are middle class just bend over and grab the ankles............Donny is right behind you.

    I should've stopped much earlier if you were going to engage in the divisive class warfare... Classic O'bama argument. 

    You wouldn't be a supporter would you ???    

    Should you complain if you did better than the year before, but not quite as well as people at the top of the food chain.  (Honest Question) 

    That's what's become wrong with the country.    Just keep working forward.  F&ck keeping up with the Joneses.   Keep bettering yourself w/o taking away from something else.   


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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    How many more Goldman people can Donny possibly appoint?  This is just silly now.  Might as well just move the Presidency to Goldman headquarters.

    Goldman is as financially corrupt as one can possibly get.  The absolute KINGS of the short.  You hear that?  That's the swamp overflowing while the rich gets richer.  If you are middle class just bend over and grab the ankles............Donny is right behind you.

    I should've stopped much earlier if you were going to engage in the divisive class warfare... Classic O'bama argument. 

    You wouldn't be a supporter would you ???    

    Should you complain if you did better than the year before, but not quite as well as people at the top of the food chain.  (Honest Question) 

    That's what's become wrong with the country.    Just keep working forward.  F&ck keeping up with the Joneses.   Keep bettering yourself w/o taking away from something else.   


     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 11:27 PM ET #60

    ^ And for C Hrist's Sake, Bernie, RC  ?    Are we serious ?   

    Geezus Chr St...   


    If this is what the folks thinks is progress to a society, than we need to do a lot better in our educational system..   

    More GOVERNMENT is not better.   How much clearer do we need to be ????     Patriots fought bloody wars for the Sht you think you believe in...   I would read some books on the genesis of this country for some insight... 

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    ^ And for C Hrist's Sake, Bernie, RC  ?    Are we serious ?   

    Geezus Chr St...   


    If this is what the folks thinks is progress to a society, than we need to do a lot better in our educational system..   

    More GOVERNMENT is not better.   How much clearer do we need to be ????     Patriots fought bloody wars for the Sht you think you believe in...   I would read some books on the genesis of this country for some insight... 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2016 - 4:51 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by RCDirect:


    Did you really in your wildest dreams believe he was going to anything to help you, me or anyone else but himself and the billionaire class? I can't believe so many people can be so gullible. You won't need his laughable wall. When he's done wages will be the same here as Mexico. The EPA will be dismantled allowing big Corpo to poison the air and water. Say hello again to Jim Crow, or states rights as they like to call it. And who knows what may happen on the international scene. That's really scary. The only thing that may save us is the corporate giants themselves. Trump's insanity may play havoc with the stock market. If that happens they'll do whatever they have to.


    so far so good with the stock market but valuations are getting ridiculous so you have to figure a correction is coming.  of course, i've been saying that for months so what do i know. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by RCDirect:


    Did you really in your wildest dreams believe he was going to anything to help you, me or anyone else but himself and the billionaire class? I can't believe so many people can be so gullible. You won't need his laughable wall. When he's done wages will be the same here as Mexico. The EPA will be dismantled allowing big Corpo to poison the air and water. Say hello again to Jim Crow, or states rights as they like to call it. And who knows what may happen on the international scene. That's really scary. The only thing that may save us is the corporate giants themselves. Trump's insanity may play havoc with the stock market. If that happens they'll do whatever they have to.


    so far so good with the stock market but valuations are getting ridiculous so you have to figure a correction is coming.  of course, i've been saying that for months so what do i know. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2016 - 1:08 AM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    I should've stopped much earlier if you were going to engage in the divisive class warfare... Classic O'bama argument. 

    You wouldn't be a supporter would you ???    

    Should you complain if you did better than the year before, but not quite as well as people at the top of the food chain.  (Honest Question) 

    That's what's become wrong with the country.    Just keep working forward.  F&ck keeping up with the Joneses.   Keep bettering yourself w/o taking away from something else.   



    Sorry I didn't realize I was dealing with a low information voter.  My apologies.  Since you seemed to have missed it the rich are richer than before Obama took office.  Do a little research and you will see this for yourself. 

    What's wrong with this country is that the middle class is being $crewed by our financial sector.  We don't need more of their ilk in positions of power.  I won't apologize for not wanting Goldman et al.....running our country.  They just become more wealthy.

    Let me guess you were in favor of the Bush bailouts but not Obama's? I was not in favor of either because it favored the rich.  Are you ok with Trump interfering in private business but not Obama?  Once again I support neither.

    This is not about class warfare but it is about leveling the playing field.  I am not in favor of AIG getting a bailout and rewarding employees with bonuses.  I don't like golden parachutes.  I don't like Goldman only being fined a half a billion for their financial crimes when they made 13 billion that year.  I don't like that Bank of America and Wells Fargo are now bigger than in 08 with as much corruption that those 2 have been involved with.

    I could care less what people make as long as it's legal and ethical.  The problem is that our financial sector wants no part of that.  It's time to drain the swamp of these people and look for people that have a track record of being educated as well as moral and ethical.  Donny is not doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    I should've stopped much earlier if you were going to engage in the divisive class warfare... Classic O'bama argument. 

    You wouldn't be a supporter would you ???    

    Should you complain if you did better than the year before, but not quite as well as people at the top of the food chain.  (Honest Question) 

    That's what's become wrong with the country.    Just keep working forward.  F&ck keeping up with the Joneses.   Keep bettering yourself w/o taking away from something else.   



    Sorry I didn't realize I was dealing with a low information voter.  My apologies.  Since you seemed to have missed it the rich are richer than before Obama took office.  Do a little research and you will see this for yourself. 

    What's wrong with this country is that the middle class is being $crewed by our financial sector.  We don't need more of their ilk in positions of power.  I won't apologize for not wanting Goldman et al.....running our country.  They just become more wealthy.

    Let me guess you were in favor of the Bush bailouts but not Obama's? I was not in favor of either because it favored the rich.  Are you ok with Trump interfering in private business but not Obama?  Once again I support neither.

    This is not about class warfare but it is about leveling the playing field.  I am not in favor of AIG getting a bailout and rewarding employees with bonuses.  I don't like golden parachutes.  I don't like Goldman only being fined a half a billion for their financial crimes when they made 13 billion that year.  I don't like that Bank of America and Wells Fargo are now bigger than in 08 with as much corruption that those 2 have been involved with.

    I could care less what people make as long as it's legal and ethical.  The problem is that our financial sector wants no part of that.  It's time to drain the swamp of these people and look for people that have a track record of being educated as well as moral and ethical.  Donny is not doing that.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2016 - 1:11 AM ET #63

    More GOVERNMENT is not better.   How much clearer do we need to be ????     Patriots fought bloody wars for the Sht you think you believe in...   I would read some books on the genesis of this country for some insight... 

    Except if Donny does it with Carrier and who knows who else.
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    More GOVERNMENT is not better.   How much clearer do we need to be ????     Patriots fought bloody wars for the Sht you think you believe in...   I would read some books on the genesis of this country for some insight... 

    Except if Donny does it with Carrier and who knows who else.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2016 - 2:17 PM ET #64

    How about the potential Secretary of State pick ... CEO of Exxon?  Are you f*cking kidding me?  
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    How about the potential Secretary of State pick ... CEO of Exxon?  Are you f*cking kidding me?  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2016 - 3:18 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:

    How about the potential Secretary of State pick ... CEO of Exxon?  Are you f*cking kidding me?  


    More and more red flags every time he says or does anything....  one of the greatest con jobs ever performed on the country.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:

    How about the potential Secretary of State pick ... CEO of Exxon?  Are you f*cking kidding me?  


    More and more red flags every time he says or does anything....  one of the greatest con jobs ever performed on the country.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2016 - 4:50 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:

    How about the potential Secretary of State pick ... CEO of Exxon?  Are you f*cking kidding me?  


    who knows how much a deal like this is worth, but i'm guessing it's enormous for exxon.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-exxon-mobil-arctic-idUSKCN0XG1VP
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    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:

    How about the potential Secretary of State pick ... CEO of Exxon?  Are you f*cking kidding me?  


    who knows how much a deal like this is worth, but i'm guessing it's enormous for exxon.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-exxon-mobil-arctic-idUSKCN0XG1VP
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2016 - 10:34 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    For Christ's sake.. when we talk of draining the swamp, can we agree that we are talking about career politicians that care  nothing about themselves, and their re-election in their own districts ?

    Hello, porkbelly spending and special interests.    These appointments have nothing to do w/ that.  They are out in 4 or 8 years w/ Trump.    Make sense ?

    BTW, I have no problem filling the cabinet with people that have experience, as opposed to people that are merely filling out the ethnic & gender box.  (right O'bama ?).  This isn't the united nations.  We are putting the most qualified individuals in these positions.


    Down with Regulation

    Down with O'bamacare

    Down with personal income taxes

    Down with business taxes.

    Funny how that doesn't sound so  bad... Right ?  




    I agree, and I doubt the president-elect cares much about the liberal definition of "draining the swamp." Joseph Kennedy built the Kennedy crime family by bootlegging liquor during prohibition.
    He knew more about insider trading and rigging the stock market than anyone in history. So, what did FDR do when he wanted someone to cure ( drain the swamp ) the fixing of the stock market ? He hired the guy who knew better than anyone how to rig it. Joe Kennedy--come on down--you're the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission !!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    For Christ's sake.. when we talk of draining the swamp, can we agree that we are talking about career politicians that care  nothing about themselves, and their re-election in their own districts ?

    Hello, porkbelly spending and special interests.    These appointments have nothing to do w/ that.  They are out in 4 or 8 years w/ Trump.    Make sense ?

    BTW, I have no problem filling the cabinet with people that have experience, as opposed to people that are merely filling out the ethnic & gender box.  (right O'bama ?).  This isn't the united nations.  We are putting the most qualified individuals in these positions.


    Down with Regulation

    Down with O'bamacare

    Down with personal income taxes

    Down with business taxes.

    Funny how that doesn't sound so  bad... Right ?  




    I agree, and I doubt the president-elect cares much about the liberal definition of "draining the swamp." Joseph Kennedy built the Kennedy crime family by bootlegging liquor during prohibition.
    He knew more about insider trading and rigging the stock market than anyone in history. So, what did FDR do when he wanted someone to cure ( drain the swamp ) the fixing of the stock market ? He hired the guy who knew better than anyone how to rig it. Joe Kennedy--come on down--you're the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission !!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2016 - 3:55 PM ET #68

    Mnuchin is no Kennedy.

    The "cards have been stacked too close to those who have power,"

    Joseph Kennedy

    Sorry to say they still are Joe.
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    Mnuchin is no Kennedy.

    The "cards have been stacked too close to those who have power,"

    Joseph Kennedy

    Sorry to say they still are Joe.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2016 - 4:32 PM ET #69

    Wait to you see the Supreme Court pick....
    That's a decades long of influence , sec of state mhh....
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    Wait to you see the Supreme Court pick....
    That's a decades long of influence , sec of state mhh....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2016 - 1:15 PM ET #70

    The process of Trump becoming President has been a beautiful thing to watch. Next up for the Supreme Court is Andrew Napolitano. He will be the icing on the Conservative cake. Make America Great Again.

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    The process of Trump becoming President has been a beautiful thing to watch. Next up for the Supreme Court is Andrew Napolitano. He will be the icing on the Conservative cake. Make America Great Again.

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2016 - 6:36 PM ET #71

    And the winner is Exxon Mobile ceo Tillerson.
    Cbs news now.
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    And the winner is Exxon Mobile ceo Tillerson.
    Cbs news now.
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