Republicans won't have to repeal Obamacare after all.

https://nypost.com/2016/07/24/the-latest-nail-in-obamacares-coffin/

...Count it as another nail in ObamaCare’s coffin: Humana, one of the country’s top insurers, announced Thursday that it’s pulling out of ObamaCare exchange plans in all but a few states next year.

It will offer policies in “no more” than 11 state marketplaces, down from 19. The numbers don’t add up: Humana took nearly $1 billion in losses from the coverage this year....

Obama care designed to fail. The hard Left wants single payer to put US citizens on a slow death march.

They all knew it would fail. I have stated the following in here previously. My daughter had to use Obamacare. Her monthly payment was about $150 with a deducible of 6-7k. What a joke of a policy. That is insanity. DC a cesspool of idiots to be kind.

According to healthinsurance.org, insurance industry overall enjoyed billions in profits for years under Obamacare. Lower cost companies fare better.  Although Obamacare business may be a small unprofitable part of operations, greedy companies would rather bail out of exchanges instead of staying to turn business around for the benefit of the country. 

According to huffingtonpost, Obamacare is not in danger of collapse.  In markets, exit and entry of firms are normal even before Obamacare existed.  Future premium increases should help to make markets sustainable for insurers.  Tax credits which discount premiums help insulate most customers from rising premiums.

America still has the most unaffordable healthcare system in the world because it is mostly geared toward maximizing profits.  Hospitals charge high prices because they can get away with it.

3rd pretty much nailed it, but I'll add my usual discourse on this subject. 

Doesn't change the fact that Obamacare has been an abject failure and the Repubs basically offer no solutions.    Same w education the current system is in decay and the repubs offer no solutions.

Obamacare is an slight improvement over the old system.  Reforms are hard to implement but Obama succeeded whereas other Presidents failed.  In 2016,  author of book "Surviving American Medicine" gave higher grades to Obamacare than in 2014.

A- for more Americans insured.  B for new benefits not previously covered such as preexisting condition. C for public confidence.  C for price of healthcare.  B for quality of healthcare.  C for more use of electronic medical records. 

at my work just as in politics, i will always take the side of the people who make an effort to solve a real problem, even if that effort is flawed, over the group that sits on their behind and does nothing other than whine and complain. 

reason number 472649869 why i don't vote republican. 

this article came out the other day.  they don't make it seem like the sky is falling.


https://healthaffairs.org/blog/2016/07/21/obamacare-premiums-are-lower-than-you-think/

Like natural gas. It helps me heat my house and cook my food but how can a government justifiably force me to purchase? I can choose to be cold or deal with it in other ways.


a difference would be, if you don't buy natural gas, then you don't heat your house, use your stove, etc.  it has no effect on me.

if you don't buy health insurance when you can afford it, not if but when you have a medical problem and go to the hospital, i have to pay for you. 

that may be true, but i'm far from the expert on this stuff.  but it goes back to the original issue.  if our healthcare system is a mess 9it is) and obamacare has serious issues (i don't doubt that it does) and there are ways to improve it (i'm sure there is), republicans can either do nothing but whine about it or get off their fools and do something about it. 

Clubdirt refers to healthaffairs article that Obamacare premiums are less than people think.  Under Obamacare, Americans are paying less for healthcare insurance with better coverage.  A larger market allows insurers to split costs and more competition in transparent market reduce rates.  Without Obamacare, insurance would naturally be more expensive with more people uninsured or inadequately insured.

So are you advocating people shouldn't be required to purchase car insurance? Your argument would be:

If I don't get into an accident then it's a huge waste of money.

Please don't tell me there's a difference because I am sure my insurance premium "factors" into case of uninsured motorists.

Better yet !..........If you don't own a car or don't drive ..even more  of a waste of money.