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    Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey ranks Biden #14!! ...Obama #7 ...GWBush #32 ...Trump ranks DEAD LAST!

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    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2024 - 4:37 AM ET #526

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The TOP 15 US Presidents in the Presidential Greatness Ratings & Rankings: 

     

    **Numerical scoring totals as rated by 154 experts

    93.87   Lincoln
    90.83   FDR
    90.32   Washington

    78.58   T.Roosevelt
    77.53   Jefferson
    75.34   Truman
    73.80   President Barack Obama!!!
    73.73   Eisenhower
    72.86   LBJ
    68.37   Kennedy
    67.16   Madison
    66.42   President Bill Clinton!!!
    62.66   J Adams
    62.66   President Joe Biden!!!
    61.80   Wilson

     

    *Note #1: no republican president from my adult lifetime achieved the top 15...but 3 Democrats did!

       

    Good to see 3 dems from the past 50 years in the top 15! win

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The TOP 15 US Presidents in the Presidential Greatness Ratings & Rankings: 

     

    **Numerical scoring totals as rated by 154 experts

    93.87   Lincoln
    90.83   FDR
    90.32   Washington

    78.58   T.Roosevelt
    77.53   Jefferson
    75.34   Truman
    73.80   President Barack Obama!!!
    73.73   Eisenhower
    72.86   LBJ
    68.37   Kennedy
    67.16   Madison
    66.42   President Bill Clinton!!!
    62.66   J Adams
    62.66   President Joe Biden!!!
    61.80   Wilson

     

    *Note #1: no republican president from my adult lifetime achieved the top 15...but 3 Democrats did!

       

    Good to see 3 dems from the past 50 years in the top 15! win

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2024 - 4:40 AM ET #527

    Suffolk poll shows Biden approval rating rising to highs.  Suggesting that voters may be taking a big picture view of entire presidency after his retirement has been announced.  Overall, there is much to appreciate.  Under Biden administration, US has best economic recovery of any country after pandemic.  No recession. Great jobs growth. Taming of inflation. More consumer confidence.  Stock market gains.  Increase in small business startups.  Climbing incomes.  Growing household wealth. Manufacturing coming home from overseas. Infrastructure being built.  Violent crime rate at 50 years low.  Illegal border crossings are lower than at end of 2020.  Future historians are likely to be kind to Biden.

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    Suffolk poll shows Biden approval rating rising to highs.  Suggesting that voters may be taking a big picture view of entire presidency after his retirement has been announced.  Overall, there is much to appreciate.  Under Biden administration, US has best economic recovery of any country after pandemic.  No recession. Great jobs growth. Taming of inflation. More consumer confidence.  Stock market gains.  Increase in small business startups.  Climbing incomes.  Growing household wealth. Manufacturing coming home from overseas. Infrastructure being built.  Violent crime rate at 50 years low.  Illegal border crossings are lower than at end of 2020.  Future historians are likely to be kind to Biden.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2024 - 3:26 PM ET #528

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Suffolk poll shows

    Biden approval rating rising to highs.  Suggesting that voters may be taking a big picture view of entire presidency after his retirement has been announced. 

    @thirdperson

    an_2drinks

     As he deserves, whatwith being ranked among the top 15 greatest US presidents.

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Suffolk poll shows

    Biden approval rating rising to highs.  Suggesting that voters may be taking a big picture view of entire presidency after his retirement has been announced. 

    @thirdperson

    an_2drinks

     As he deserves, whatwith being ranked among the top 15 greatest US presidents.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2024 - 4:41 PM ET #529

    Statistic in Bill Clinton's DNC speech
    confirmed  by fact checker

                      an_cheers

    RS -

    Former President Bill Clinton used part of his speech at the DNC to hit back at the notion that Republican presidents were better on the economy than Democratic presidents.
    In particular, Clinton pointed to the record of job creation since the end of the Cold War under both Republican and Democratic presidents.

    "You’re going to have a hard time believing this,
    but so help me, I triple-checked it,” Clinton said.
    “Since the end of the Cold War in 1989, America
    has created about 51 million new jobs. I swear
    I checked this three times. Even I couldn’t believe it!
    What’s the score? Democrats 50, Republicans one.”

    an_light      Washington Post fact checker Philip Bump
    decided to fact check Clinton's claim and found
    that it was 100 percent correct! an_2drinks

     

    "There have been six presidents since 1989,
    three from each party," wrote Bump.
    "Under the three Democrats — Clinton, Obama and Biden
    — there was a cumulative increase of 50 million more
    people working between the starts of their terms and the ends.
    Under the three Republicans —
    George H.W. Bush, G W. Bush and Donald Trump —
    the cumulative total was, in fact, only 1 million."

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    Statistic in Bill Clinton's DNC speech
    confirmed  by fact checker

                      an_cheers

    RS -

    Former President Bill Clinton used part of his speech at the DNC to hit back at the notion that Republican presidents were better on the economy than Democratic presidents.
    In particular, Clinton pointed to the record of job creation since the end of the Cold War under both Republican and Democratic presidents.

    "You’re going to have a hard time believing this,
    but so help me, I triple-checked it,” Clinton said.
    “Since the end of the Cold War in 1989, America
    has created about 51 million new jobs. I swear
    I checked this three times. Even I couldn’t believe it!
    What’s the score? Democrats 50, Republicans one.”

    an_light      Washington Post fact checker Philip Bump
    decided to fact check Clinton's claim and found
    that it was 100 percent correct! an_2drinks

     

    "There have been six presidents since 1989,
    three from each party," wrote Bump.
    "Under the three Democrats — Clinton, Obama and Biden
    — there was a cumulative increase of 50 million more
    people working between the starts of their terms and the ends.
    Under the three Republicans —
    George H.W. Bush, G W. Bush and Donald Trump —
    the cumulative total was, in fact, only 1 million."

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2024 - 5:02 PM ET #530

    Life is sad when people are out of work and can’t get along .

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Life is sad when people are out of work and can’t get along .

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2024 - 5:28 AM ET #531

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Overall, there is much to appreciate  Under Biden administration, US has best economic recovery of any country after pandemic.  No recession. Great jobs growth. Taming of inflation. More consumer confidence.  Stock market gains.  Increase in small business startups.  Climbing incomes.  Growing household wealth. Manufacturing coming home from overseas. Infrastructure being built.  Violent crime rate at 50 years low.  Illegal border crossings are lower than at end of 2020.  Future historians are likely to be kind to Biden.

    @thirdperson

     OF course they will!  They already are! 

    Biden entered the presidential rankings rated 19th in one prestigious survey of presidential scholars and then earlier this year a different national survey ranked him #14!  an_2drinks

     

     

    That same survey ranked trump DEAD LAST an_beatup

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Overall, there is much to appreciate  Under Biden administration, US has best economic recovery of any country after pandemic.  No recession. Great jobs growth. Taming of inflation. More consumer confidence.  Stock market gains.  Increase in small business startups.  Climbing incomes.  Growing household wealth. Manufacturing coming home from overseas. Infrastructure being built.  Violent crime rate at 50 years low.  Illegal border crossings are lower than at end of 2020.  Future historians are likely to be kind to Biden.

    @thirdperson

     OF course they will!  They already are! 

    Biden entered the presidential rankings rated 19th in one prestigious survey of presidential scholars and then earlier this year a different national survey ranked him #14!  an_2drinks

     

     

    That same survey ranked trump DEAD LAST an_beatup

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2024 - 5:50 PM ET #532

     

    Another reason why the convicted felon is ranked by experts as the WORST president in US history by far!

     

    Republicans Reject Another
    Trump Economic Proposal

    Trump's pitches to working-class voters — including capping credit card interest rates — aren't convincing members of his own party!

     


    HUFFPOST -

    WASHINGTON ? Republican lawmakers panned Trump’s promise
    to cap credit card interest rates at around 10% if he returns to the
    White House, saying it would harm Americans’ access to credit.

    It’s only the latest campaign pitch from Trump to get a cool reception
    on Capitol Hill, including:
    - his promise to make in vitro fertilization treatments free, and
    - his pledge to bring back a controversial deduction for state and local taxes.

    Reply

     

    Another reason why the convicted felon is ranked by experts as the WORST president in US history by far!

     

    Republicans Reject Another
    Trump Economic Proposal

    Trump's pitches to working-class voters — including capping credit card interest rates — aren't convincing members of his own party!

     


    HUFFPOST -

    WASHINGTON ? Republican lawmakers panned Trump’s promise
    to cap credit card interest rates at around 10% if he returns to the
    White House, saying it would harm Americans’ access to credit.

    It’s only the latest campaign pitch from Trump to get a cool reception
    on Capitol Hill, including:
    - his promise to make in vitro fertilization treatments free, and
    - his pledge to bring back a controversial deduction for state and local taxes.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2024 - 12:22 PM ET #533

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Another reason why the convicted felon is ranked by experts as the WORST president in US history by far!

      Republicans Reject Another

      Trump Economic Proposal

    Trump's pitches to working-class voters — including capping credit card interest rates — aren't convincing members of his own party!   HUFFPOST - WASHINGTON ? Republican lawmakers panned Trump’s promise to cap credit card interest rates at around 10% if he returns to the White House, saying it would harm Americans’ access to credit. It’s only the latest campaign pitch from Trump to get a cool reception on Capitol Hill, including:- his promise to make in vitro fertilization treatments free, and - his pledge to bring back a controversial deduction for state and local taxes.

    “Credit card companies that are forced to cut interest
    rates by 10% are going to be equally then forced to
    not issue credit to a lot of people,”
    said Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer (N.D.),
    a member of the Senate Banking Committee

    “If you want to work with the industry and find different
    ways to make it available to people, while also keeping
    interest rates lower, great. But yeah, mandating a cap
    doesn’t seem like a great idea,” he added.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Another reason why the convicted felon is ranked by experts as the WORST president in US history by far!

      Republicans Reject Another

      Trump Economic Proposal

    Trump's pitches to working-class voters — including capping credit card interest rates — aren't convincing members of his own party!   HUFFPOST - WASHINGTON ? Republican lawmakers panned Trump’s promise to cap credit card interest rates at around 10% if he returns to the White House, saying it would harm Americans’ access to credit. It’s only the latest campaign pitch from Trump to get a cool reception on Capitol Hill, including:- his promise to make in vitro fertilization treatments free, and - his pledge to bring back a controversial deduction for state and local taxes.

    “Credit card companies that are forced to cut interest
    rates by 10% are going to be equally then forced to
    not issue credit to a lot of people,”
    said Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer (N.D.),
    a member of the Senate Banking Committee

    “If you want to work with the industry and find different
    ways to make it available to people, while also keeping
    interest rates lower, great. But yeah, mandating a cap
    doesn’t seem like a great idea,” he added.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2024 - 3:26 PM ET #534

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    As the Steele dossier asserts, Putin holds compromising evidence and trump is scared and compromised. Trump's "plan" to end the Russia-Ukraine war, by cutting off military aid and getting Ukraine to give Russia what it wants, which will include a stronger foothold in the area.  Our European allies are not happy right now, knowing that Trump, the weakest presidential candidate, ever, who's excitedly awaiting the opportunity to surrender any & all to Putin,

    @joe pockets

    Precisely. That is how the convicted felon would so called "end the war in Europe" -  appease an international terrorist by giving in to all their demands including territory.

    That type of ignorant thinking is no doubt a part of why 154 presidential experts rank him the WORST president in US history by far!

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    As the Steele dossier asserts, Putin holds compromising evidence and trump is scared and compromised. Trump's "plan" to end the Russia-Ukraine war, by cutting off military aid and getting Ukraine to give Russia what it wants, which will include a stronger foothold in the area.  Our European allies are not happy right now, knowing that Trump, the weakest presidential candidate, ever, who's excitedly awaiting the opportunity to surrender any & all to Putin,

    @joe pockets

    Precisely. That is how the convicted felon would so called "end the war in Europe" -  appease an international terrorist by giving in to all their demands including territory.

    That type of ignorant thinking is no doubt a part of why 154 presidential experts rank him the WORST president in US history by far!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2024 - 7:39 PM ET #535

    More trump lies . . .

     

    'Simply not true':

    Detroit police chief gives Trump's crime claims a reality check

     

    RS -
    "Detroit has experienced a dramatic drop in murders,
    shootings and other violent crime in recent years,
    according to city, state and federal statistics,"
    per NBC News' reporting.

    "After surging during the pandemic, rates of violent crime
        have dropped back to where they were in 2019,
    the numbers show — dramatically lower than they were
    10 and 20 years ago!

    Detroit had 252 homicides last year,
    the lowest number since 1966." an_clap

     

    Reply

    More trump lies . . .

     

    'Simply not true':

    Detroit police chief gives Trump's crime claims a reality check

     

    RS -
    "Detroit has experienced a dramatic drop in murders,
    shootings and other violent crime in recent years,
    according to city, state and federal statistics,"
    per NBC News' reporting.

    "After surging during the pandemic, rates of violent crime
        have dropped back to where they were in 2019,
    the numbers show — dramatically lower than they were
    10 and 20 years ago!

    Detroit had 252 homicides last year,
    the lowest number since 1966." an_clap

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2024 - 5:16 AM ET #536

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    People of other countries seem worried and surprised that polls show Trump and Harris are so close in election.  Obvious to many that Trump is a bad president tolerated by US allies.  Under Biden administration, international respect for US has improved.

    @thirdperson

    True.  The racist, rapist, fraud, twice-impeached CONVICTED FELON is officially ranked as the worst president in US history, even much lower than G W surprised

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    People of other countries seem worried and surprised that polls show Trump and Harris are so close in election.  Obvious to many that Trump is a bad president tolerated by US allies.  Under Biden administration, international respect for US has improved.

    @thirdperson

    True.  The racist, rapist, fraud, twice-impeached CONVICTED FELON is officially ranked as the worst president in US history, even much lower than G W surprised

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2024 - 7:29 PM ET #537

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    wheres  donnie chump ranked ??  confused

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    wheres  donnie chump ranked ??  confused

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: wheres  donnie chump ranked ??

    2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey

     

    an_light  As ranked by Democrats inside the survey

                            *Only the 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


    06   Barack Obama <--- ranked 39 spots better than trump! win

    12   Bill Clinton
    13  Joe Biden  <--- ranked 32 spots better than trump!  an_happydude

    18  Ronald Reagan
    19  George H.W. Bush
    20  Jimmy Carter

        ~ Median of 45 ~

    28  Gerald Ford       thumbs_down
    33  George W. Bush  thumbs_down
    35  Richard Nixon  thumbs_down

     

           ~ huge gap ~

    45  an_laugh  trump "the CONVICTED FELON"   new_poop

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: wheres  donnie chump ranked ??

    2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey

     

    an_light  As ranked by Democrats inside the survey

                            *Only the 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


    06   Barack Obama <--- ranked 39 spots better than trump! win

    12   Bill Clinton
    13  Joe Biden  <--- ranked 32 spots better than trump!  an_happydude

    18  Ronald Reagan
    19  George H.W. Bush
    20  Jimmy Carter

        ~ Median of 45 ~

    28  Gerald Ford       thumbs_down
    33  George W. Bush  thumbs_down
    35  Richard Nixon  thumbs_down

     

           ~ huge gap ~

    45  an_laugh  trump "the CONVICTED FELON"   new_poop

     
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    According to the Atlantic, no president in US history is further from George Washington than Trump.  Washington prized patience and silence.  Trump is ruled by impulses and talks constantly.  Washington was uncomplaining.  Trump always whines.  Washington was financially and morally incorruptible.  Trump is a grifter and a crude libertine who still owes money to a woman he was found liable for sexual assault.  Washington was a brave general who grieved for the sacrifices of his men.  Trump thinks fallen soldiers are losers and suckers.  Washington stopped a rebellion against US government.  Trump encouraged one.  Washington refused to remain president.  Trump desires to return to power as an autocrat.  Washington supported democracy.  Trump threatens democracy.

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    According to the Atlantic, no president in US history is further from George Washington than Trump.  Washington prized patience and silence.  Trump is ruled by impulses and talks constantly.  Washington was uncomplaining.  Trump always whines.  Washington was financially and morally incorruptible.  Trump is a grifter and a crude libertine who still owes money to a woman he was found liable for sexual assault.  Washington was a brave general who grieved for the sacrifices of his men.  Trump thinks fallen soldiers are losers and suckers.  Washington stopped a rebellion against US government.  Trump encouraged one.  Washington refused to remain president.  Trump desires to return to power as an autocrat.  Washington supported democracy.  Trump threatens democracy.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to the Atlantic, no president in US history is further from George Washington than Trump.  Washington prized patience and silence.  Trump is ruled by impulses and talks constantly.  Washington was uncomplaining.  Trump always whines.  Washington was financially and morally incorruptible.  Trump is a grifter and a crude libertine who still owes money to a woman he was found liable for sexual assault.  Washington was a brave general who grieved for the sacrifices of his men.  Trump thinks fallen soldiers are losers and suckers.  Washington stopped a rebellion against US government.  Trump encouraged one.  Washington refused to remain president.  Trump desires to return to power as an autocrat.  Washington supported democracy.  Trump threatens democracy.

    @thirdperson

     EXCELLENT piece - making sense out of the convicted felon's nonsense!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to the Atlantic, no president in US history is further from George Washington than Trump.  Washington prized patience and silence.  Trump is ruled by impulses and talks constantly.  Washington was uncomplaining.  Trump always whines.  Washington was financially and morally incorruptible.  Trump is a grifter and a crude libertine who still owes money to a woman he was found liable for sexual assault.  Washington was a brave general who grieved for the sacrifices of his men.  Trump thinks fallen soldiers are losers and suckers.  Washington stopped a rebellion against US government.  Trump encouraged one.  Washington refused to remain president.  Trump desires to return to power as an autocrat.  Washington supported democracy.  Trump threatens democracy.

    @thirdperson

     EXCELLENT piece - making sense out of the convicted felon's nonsense!

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 9:00 PM ET #541

    The top 15  US Presidents in the overall
    Presidential Greatness Ratings & Rankings:

     

    1    Lincoln 
    2    FDR
    3    Washington
    4    T.Roosevelt
    5    Jefferson
    6    Truman
    7    Barack Obama! an_clap
    8    Eisenhower
    9    LBJ
    10  Kennedy
    11  Madison
    12  Bill Clinton! an_clap
    13  J Adams
    14  Joe Biden!  an_clap
    15  Wilson

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    The top 15  US Presidents in the overall
    Presidential Greatness Ratings & Rankings:

     

    1    Lincoln 
    2    FDR
    3    Washington
    4    T.Roosevelt
    5    Jefferson
    6    Truman
    7    Barack Obama! an_clap
    8    Eisenhower
    9    LBJ
    10  Kennedy
    11  Madison
    12  Bill Clinton! an_clap
    13  J Adams
    14  Joe Biden!  an_clap
    15  Wilson

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2024 - 10:33 PM ET #542

      an_clap

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      an_clap

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2024 - 7:34 AM ET #543

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Immigrants have been accused for the increase of crime since our country was born. They are easy scapegoats. Chinese, Irish, Italian, Mexican & Muslims have all been falsely accused of bringing crime to the US.

    In fact, immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than native born Americans & when they are incarcerated in most cases it's because they violated our immigration laws. Don't buy into the fear factor spread by the Right.

     

    Just another reason why trump the racist is ranked dead last by experts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Immigrants have been accused for the increase of crime since our country was born. They are easy scapegoats. Chinese, Irish, Italian, Mexican & Muslims have all been falsely accused of bringing crime to the US.

    In fact, immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than native born Americans & when they are incarcerated in most cases it's because they violated our immigration laws. Don't buy into the fear factor spread by the Right.

     

    Just another reason why trump the racist is ranked dead last by experts.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2024 - 9:42 PM ET #544

    breaking news ::

     

    cut from rolling stone ::


    Elon Musk on Economy Crashing if Trump Wins: ‘Sounds About Right'

     

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    breaking news ::

     

    cut from rolling stone ::


    Elon Musk on Economy Crashing if Trump Wins: ‘Sounds About Right'

     

     
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    breaking news ::

     

    cut from rolling stone ::


    Elon Musk on Economy Crashing if Trump Wins: ‘Sounds About Right'

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    breaking news ::

     

    cut from rolling stone ::


    Elon Musk on Economy Crashing if Trump Wins: ‘Sounds About Right'

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    breaking news ::  

    cut from rolling stone ::

    Elon Musk on Economy Crashing if Trump Wins: ‘Sounds About Right'

    @KellyM_1964

     It does sound about right, doesn't it?!  an_cheers

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    breaking news ::  

    cut from rolling stone ::

    Elon Musk on Economy Crashing if Trump Wins: ‘Sounds About Right'

    @KellyM_1964

     It does sound about right, doesn't it?!  an_cheers

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2024 - 12:45 AM ET #547

    Ya know what I've noticed?

    "Our side" is having a ball, laughing, joking, ribbing them...generally having a good time even after ALL they have tried to do to us.

    "Their side" is faux-trembling in fear, fear mongering, sweating & panting, screeching like old cat ladies ready to commit suicide.

    It is a great time to be alive ;-)

     

    Musk / Rolling Stone an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    how desperate are you , Kelly MMMMMMMMnew_kiss_heart

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    Ya know what I've noticed?

    "Our side" is having a ball, laughing, joking, ribbing them...generally having a good time even after ALL they have tried to do to us.

    "Their side" is faux-trembling in fear, fear mongering, sweating & panting, screeching like old cat ladies ready to commit suicide.

    It is a great time to be alive ;-)

     

    Musk / Rolling Stone an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    how desperate are you , Kelly MMMMMMMMnew_kiss_heart

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2024 - 12:47 AM ET #548

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: breaking news ::   cut from rolling stone :: Elon Musk on Economy Crashing if Trump Wins: ‘Sounds About Right' @KellyM_1964  It does sound about right, doesn't it?!

     

     

     

    right to his fascist core as one of his own admin called him

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: breaking news ::   cut from rolling stone :: Elon Musk on Economy Crashing if Trump Wins: ‘Sounds About Right' @KellyM_1964  It does sound about right, doesn't it?!

     

     

     

    right to his fascist core as one of his own admin called him

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2024 - 1:00 AM ET #549

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Immigrants have been accused for the increase of crime since our country was born. They are easy scapegoats. Chinese, Irish, Italian, Mexican & Muslims have all been falsely accused of bringing crime to the US. In fact, immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than native born Americans & when they are incarcerated in most cases it's because they violated our immigration laws. Don't buy into the fear factor spread by the Right.   Just another reason why trump the racist is ranked dead last by experts.

    one of many reasons why donnie is ranked the worst of all time 

    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Immigrants have been accused for the increase of crime since our country was born. They are easy scapegoats. Chinese, Irish, Italian, Mexican & Muslims have all been falsely accused of bringing crime to the US. In fact, immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated than native born Americans & when they are incarcerated in most cases it's because they violated our immigration laws. Don't buy into the fear factor spread by the Right.   Just another reason why trump the racist is ranked dead last by experts.

    one of many reasons why donnie is ranked the worst of all time 

    an_roll_laugh

     
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2]

     

    2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey

     

            an_lightAs ranked by ***MODERATES***

                 *Only the recent 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


     9    Barack Obama an_clap

    20  Joe Biden  <--------------- an_2drinks

     

     

     

    ~ big gap ~

     

    45 Donald  Trump <--- WORST! thejester

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2]

     

    2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey

     

            an_lightAs ranked by ***MODERATES***

                 *Only the recent 10 Presidents in our lifetime shown


     9    Barack Obama an_clap

    20  Joe Biden  <--------------- an_2drinks

     

     

     

    ~ big gap ~

     

    45 Donald  Trump <--- WORST! thejester

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