Perfect example of who republicans and magas truly are.

Megyn Kelly is a smart lady. The definition of pedofile is abundantly clear, she nailed it.

So let's see;

Democrats show emails where Epstein mentions Trump.

Epstein's emails show Epstein didn't like Trump.

Democrats say, but, but, Epstein mentioned Trump!!!

How about emails from 2019 where Epstein is live- texting Democrat Stacy Plaskett from the Virgin Islands during a "get Trump" hearing. Who is Plaskett?

Plaskett, for those who didn't know, previously served in the Virgin Islands government - helping to give Epstein tax benefits, and worked for Epstein's fixer on the island before she was elected to Congress.

As Epstein watched the televised hearing he was communicating with Plaskett. 

Too funny, the more the onion is peeled........

As far as Gaetz, I never liked him. Just looks the sleazy part. But this story is like watching Gilligan's Island reruns. I've seen this before, over and over, same old story, a lot of smoke, no fire. He said/she said. The gal never sued him as promised. Why not? Hmmmmm.

Just more desperate deflection. Fun to watch.

its easier to just turn on right wing news stations and hear the bs that gets repeated here.

Trump is an innocent victim once again and he never knew what his best buddy epstein was doing

The amount of bending and twisting magas do for trump, they should all change their middle names to GUMBY

Who said Trump was an innocent victim, who said he didn't know what Epstein was doing? You just make shit up, all the time. Talk about BS.

Obviously Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-lago he figured out Epstein. 

Cracks me up. The party that allows porn in school libraries, cross-dressers inacting with kids, men waving their slong in women's locker rooms, goes on a rightous tirade. 

Like that is how you handle/punish pedophiles -_- If you know someone is a pedophile you turn them into police  - just like you don’t bomb a boat just because you “think” they are smuggling drugs (last time I checked - “drug smuggling” wasn’t a criminal offense that are punished by instant death - and pedophilia isn’t an offense that is punished by taking a membership from said person) - I can’t tell if you go out of your way to protect Trump or you really are that stupid 

I do know that what has been presented so far doesn't say much about anything...some cryptic shit that could really mean a number of things, but we will never know given the Jeff is gonzo...even then, you really never get the idea that even if he was here if the truth would ever be revealed....Trump is certainly not innocent in a number of things, but this seems like a talking tree in a rain forest, crowded and drawn out...everyone just wants a hanging because they despise someone....when or if all the files are released I do believe that it will unveil several other well-known individuals on both sides of the aisles and one dirty ass couch....   

I'm only interested in the truth, not what someone assumes or speculates, which is a lot of what transpires here and elsewhere.... 

Really don't think Trump witnessed Epstein having sex with underaged girls. Maybe in your fantasies. Witnessed bad behavior yes.

As far as destroying drug boats, that is interesting. A very bold move. Would believe there is inside information. The chance of blowing up innocents too great. You just don't find boats in international waters and blow them up. What prevents smugglers from kidnapping children and loading them on these boats and then recovering the bodies to show the world? No doubt they will adapt somehow. The right intel is seriously required. 

Interesting seeing in thread after thread the constant TNC shade on Trump who has shown based on HIS actions, his character, his choices that the suggestions made in this and other threads are completely in character and not a reach by any sense at least to me.

How can "truth" be known when the guy in the center was killed in prison, when his cohort is given a sweetheart gig in a min security prison with more amenities than I have in my house? How can we know truth when the TNC is not supporting releasing the truth, when silly TNC supporters are not interested in truth rather protecting their agenda and their pied piper schlep leader?

I also find it quite in step that the "proof" and "truth" already out there like numerous photos with them, letters written back and forth, emails implicating involvement are swatted away by those TNC followers and many here in this very forum. So how can "truth" exist when those here claiming that we need TRUTH are not interested in it and have rationalizations galore to minimize anything that is released?

Is the only "truth" some of you will accept (you wont accept even if IMO) is video of Trump engaging with one of Epsteins prisoners? Is the only truth that meets the mark is to such an extreme degree that even YOU lot cannot deny it?

There has been more than enough truth for me and his own actions, character and zero ego persona is proof, I do not need CCTV footage to see what is right in front of my face.

And I am not protecting Trump. The Biden Admin has these "files" for four years, kept them buried the whole time. With all the rabid attacks on Trump would it not be expected they would have used these files? Hell yeah!! You would have to be pretty damn stupid not to think so or so full of TDS you block it out. 

And the first logical question is who collected and built this file??? Epstein had no diary. So far it's selected email communications. What was left out? Hmmmm.

Second question is why did Trump say release it, then they got it all only after demanding it, and then basically said no, we won't release it. Would seem whatever held back the Biden Admin is holding back the Trump admin.

And third, why would anybody believe anything Epstein would have said anyways??? 

@UNIMAN

 Also very true. Biden administration had four years to produce or release any files on Jeff and did nothing. However, that doesn't amount or figure into somes rationale or reasoning. Just a lil tidbit that is always left out. And mind you, this is a period when all that was being done was trying to discredit Trump on a regular basis....Any reasonable person would assume if they had dirt on the man they hate so much that they would have destroyed him with releasing ANY incriminating evidence they had. Why didn't they?

I know there was a period of time that the victims were being protected, but that doesn't mean that evidence couldn't have been released about a prior or possibly future president elect in Trump. I mean, the American people deserve to know and if that was withheld by anyone then shame on them. But you are right, Biden administration did nothing for four years and showed nothing credible and it's much of the same now. Was it because at the beginning things centered around Clinton? I also recall several Democrats asking for an investigation and release of files and they got nothing. Why? They would have crucified Trump had there been a slightest inclination that he was involved directly or indirectly in any way with Jeff and Laine. Now it's how come Trump and his administration is not releasing the files. Common sense does not always prevail and if the files are released and ANYONE allowed incriminating evidence not to be disclosed to the American public about ANY president or anyone running or ANY elected official then shame on them for withholding from the people. 

I say they got shit, otherwise they would have reemed the guy already, but who knows. You talking about a birthday card is comedy if you had actual evidence. Now it's some spotty emails about a dude talking about another dude. What is this the Big Lebowski? Sounds like the Allan Iverson of "practice." "We're talking about practice. Not a game! Not a game! We're talking about practice."

Show me the facts please so I can judge for myself or get a hold of yourself....  

"Would seem whatever held back the Biden Admin is holding back the Trump admin."

Three letters and the first one starts with C.

Fact is maybe trump didn't do anything with the young girls (in highly doubt that cause the clown is a sex hound dog. What father tells people his daughter has a nice ass and he would date her if she wasn't his daughter. This man is a disgusting pervert but expect any maga to realize this, cause they all come from the same mold) what they want to do is tie trump into knowing exactly what eastern was doing and not doing a fucking thing about it, for all the brainless magas across the country. It would be like me watching my best friend murder somebody and I just kept my mouth shut. Trump knew his best buddy was raping young girls but he kept his mouth shut, cause he loved the party scene. And nagas don't even try to say that when trump found out, he cut ties with eastern. Trump knew for years and years what eastern was doing, go ahead and keep defending trump, that its just another witch hunt against the greatest, honest, decent, smartest human beings to walk on this planet. All you magas gotta live with that inside you. Remember karma comes for everybody. Tik toc tik toc

Am 100 percent sure if trump came out and said he knew what eastern was doing fir years and how he should have done something, all the sick twisted magas across the country would forgive trump and tell him they still love him with all their hearts.

JUST REMBWR FOLKS, YOU ARENT SUPPOSED TO IDOLIZE ANYBODY BUT GOD.

Good luck explaining that some day, lollll

GOD : maga why were you idolizing this disgusting human being trump

MAGA: We thought that trump was your second son and wanted all of us to IDOLIZE him

Notice that those people here and in the general media that I have seen are not playing partisan on this topic. The only partisan takes are those from the TNC and those shading Trump. I saw that poll put out which showed something like 80% of the DNC polled want it released that 65 or 70% of the general public want it and only 53% of the TNC want it released. 

I have not heard much hemming and hawing about some DNC dude is innocent and that we should not release the info and like Trump said that this is the greatest economy ever that it has never been better and he is doing the best job in history and that releasing the files are a distraction from the awesome job his admin is doing. Who the crap says that? Who the crap says that they should go after Clinton or some other partisan doods as an answer to releasing the files?

Either Trump is 100% guilty or he is 100% stupid or both. Trump has never learned the art of shutting up, I think he is mentally unable to keep his trap shut and there is nobody able to muzzle his inane childish mouth. 

I dont think anyone's playing partisan other than pointing out here and in the Epstein thread that no one cared about this until it appeared an opportunity to get Trump.

How many years did Epstein do this?  How many victims are there?  How many perps are there?

This and this alone is why there is demand for a list followed by thorough transparent investigation and prosecution.

But again he's some form of asset IMHO and I wouldn't think a government whether ours or someone else's wants to willingly confess to a underage sex blackmail operation, so I'm not holding my breath for more than leak, allegations, and protecting victim identities.

Who's Eastern?

@cd329

 What if...no one wants the files released because there may be incriminating information of far more than what many think there might be?

What if the scandal implicated many more politicians, celebrities and others in a much bigger situation and all you are doing is ragging on Trump?

I mean, it's not that far fetched that the elitists protect one another...yea, Trump is a dumbass for not saying something if he knew, but what if there were many others that knew and also said nothing? Do you have the same resentment towards them?

Let's face it, the Prince knew and said nothing because he was partaking in it? Is it really possible he is the only one and is the scapegoat? Where is the hate towards him?

Or does this go much deeper for the rich and famous and it is being concealed for the time being because the implications could be of astronomical proportions?

Not entirely out of the realm that dirty old men were doing dirty old shit with young females....everyone covering up for everyone knowing they were doing wrong but everyone also shutting up about it as if they were some elite club and thought they were untouchable. Could it be possibly that this cover up is thought to be in the best interest of those who are powerful while the rest of just want answers? 

How many we talking here? The Prince isn't out there by himself doing this with no one else....so that clown got in this exclusive club and did dirty but no one else did? I find this very hard to believe, so let's take down ALL not just Trump if they are guilty of this....no reason to hold back here if there is something to divulge...wealthy, powerful or not, let it out and expose them and let the chips fall where they may....

This is just another possibility that could be out there....the ends that the wealthy and elite will go to is like none other...you squeal, you die, so maybe this some kind of skulls shit....

I would imagine there will be lots of people named on all political spectrums and it seems most of the population outside the TNC is fine with that, let the chips fall where they may. I would expect Clinton to be on the list, I heard Gates was in the mix, likely lots of clowns from industry will be and many famous actors. I have not seen any member on Covers who is not TNC try and throw shade on the topic, I do not hear in the general media any attempts to cover any individual outside of what you hear from right wing media and the TNC. 

How could Trump trash one of his most loyal supporters and wackadoo TNC enthusiast because she wants to out these creeps and let it all be known? Why the need to trash on people and deflect on a topic that has to do with MEN abusing women like this? Who does this sort of thing, is it someone who is innocent or someone who is complicit?

The more Trump throws his big fat temper tantrums the more I am convinced, well Ive been convinced since the 90s as he has always been a womanizing schmuck, none of this is out of character for someone who has no character...but his deflective offensive attacks are the signs of guilt not of transparency and innocence.

Its nice seeing so many women politicians moving forward and standing up for those innocent abused prisoners, getting justice for those harmed is more important than protecting your partisan grab bags.

Yes i want every one of these scumbags outed okay mr am not a trump defender.  Am sure there are tons of people that should have come out and said something, but heres a news flash for you, none of those people are the frigging PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, LET THAT SINK IN TO YOUR HEAD, cause am sure you will have a smart ass defense for that. Our President was best friends with a convicted child sex offender and he knew about what this guy was doing., Does trump really deserve to be our President. Am sure all the maga ass kissers will say he still does deserve to be the President, cause hes the greatest person in the world and is here to save all of us lollll.

Still cracks me up how some folks walk, talk and act like a maga, but hate being called a magaTruth is i have never seen or heard of any maga having any decent morals, so they wouldnt care that epsteins buddy was President.  Well i have morals and dont want trump has my president, cause the man is human scum. So like him and defend him all you want, thats your business. I dont lose a minute of sleep thinking about your posts and i hope you do the same with mine.

The Epstein case has already caused a prince to lose all powers - so why not a king as well ? You guys that defend him - I think you underestimate how severe a crime this is to most people ! There is a reason most convicted pedophiles are kept separated and isolated from inmates (at least on this side of the Atlantic) and why a majority in UK wish to dump “Prince” Andrew into the ocean !

I fucking don’t care to protect Biden, Clinton or who the fuck else might be in those files - if they are all pedophiles they are all scum and I would wish them to die for it tbh - that is how severe a crime I think it is 

For me bringing up Trump here - is only due to who I see as most likely being involved in this - and he would be pretty far up that list ! It wouldn’t make much sense for me to bring up Biden etc as I don’t personally consider them very likely and Clinton hasn’t been relevant for what 20 years ? I almost thought the guy was already dead to be honest ! But yeah it wouldn’t shake my world if he had been involved aswell - and I am glad to report I would consider him equally as bad as Trump if both were proven to be involved when all is said and done in this

Neither will ever happen. Especially getting a hold of themselves. 

Some woman says technically Epstein wasn't a pedofile by definition but that does not change the disturbing things he did and here they come with this thread. The same people who defend a party that says minor attracted persons, defend cross dressing men interacting with school kids, porn in school libraries, etc. 

But, but, Trump and his chidish mouth!!! Yep, he sure does have one. Take him anyday over the alternative, and that's what voters did. 

@UNIMAN

 Childish mouth? Your boy is insane. With all the turmoil going on in our country & abroad, tonight he was talking about water pressure again.

The Big Drip himself.." And you know, we got rid of the drip drip water, we call it the drip drip, where it drip drips out of the sink, states with tremendous water, so much water they have nothing but problems getting rid. They had restrictions on water. It comes down from heaven, right?"

It's time for TACO to go. He's demented! 

#47

Subtle but important point.  When there is no push back on language nuances definitions get blurred and disparaging labels are freely misapplied to deceptively mislead in an attempt to end discussions without an examination of fact.