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    darkhorse12
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 12:11 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    "...one faction, of one party, in one House of Congress, in one branch of government, doesn't get to shut down the entire government, just to refight the results of an election."

                                        ~ Sept.30th 2013  Fmr. Pres.Barack Obama

    I agree    trump nor the republican senate has that right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    "...one faction, of one party, in one House of Congress, in one branch of government, doesn't get to shut down the entire government, just to refight the results of an election."

                                        ~ Sept.30th 2013  Fmr. Pres.Barack Obama

    I agree    trump nor the republican senate has that right.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 12:26 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    I agree    trump nor the republican senate has that right.

    He said "one branch of  government "  The President and R-Senate are two branch's of government...
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    I agree    trump nor the republican senate has that right.

    He said "one branch of  government "  The President and R-Senate are two branch's of government...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 1:00 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    He said "one branch of  government "  The President and R-Senate are two branch's of government...

    correct , first trump with his veto now the senate since they won't advance the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    He said "one branch of  government "  The President and R-Senate are two branch's of government...

    correct , first trump with his veto now the senate since they won't advance the bill.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 1:38 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    correct , first trump with his veto now the senate since they won't advance the bill.

     

    trump owns the shutdown, heard it directly from him. You wouldn't call him a liar would you slim? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    correct , first trump with his veto now the senate since they won't advance the bill.

     

    trump owns the shutdown, heard it directly from him. You wouldn't call him a liar would you slim? 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 1:50 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

     

    trump owns the shutdown, heard it directly from him. You wouldn't call him a liar would you slim? 

    That's right President Trump,as of Friday at midnight owns the record for the longest our government has been shut down,in US history..22 days..

    Of course since it's only a partial government shut down it might not count ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

     

    trump owns the shutdown, heard it directly from him. You wouldn't call him a liar would you slim? 

    That's right President Trump,as of Friday at midnight owns the record for the longest our government has been shut down,in US history..22 days..

    Of course since it's only a partial government shut down it might not count ...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 1:04 PM ET #31

    Sorry but this is all Trump.  Yes Dems r slimy hypos but Trump had 2 yrs to do it and chose not to.   As noted elections have consequences and the mid term messages were pretty clear.  Like Georgie C use to say Trump has “no hand” and yet due to his petty ego is going to push this forward.   And sorry slim but rationalizing that somehow federal employees excepted the risk of working without pay is utter nonsense.   A fundamental principle of our country’s fabric is that workers be compensated for their efforts and the federal govt should be the model for that principle not the exception.

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    Sorry but this is all Trump.  Yes Dems r slimy hypos but Trump had 2 yrs to do it and chose not to.   As noted elections have consequences and the mid term messages were pretty clear.  Like Georgie C use to say Trump has “no hand” and yet due to his petty ego is going to push this forward.   And sorry slim but rationalizing that somehow federal employees excepted the risk of working without pay is utter nonsense.   A fundamental principle of our country’s fabric is that workers be compensated for their efforts and the federal govt should be the model for that principle not the exception.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 1:13 PM ET #32

    and the federal govt should be the model for that principle not the exception.

    an_roll_laugh

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    and the federal govt should be the model for that principle not the exception.

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 2:01 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Sorry but this is all Trump.  Yes Dems r slimy hypos but Trump had 2 yrs to do it and chose not to.   As noted elections have consequences and the mid term messages were pretty clear.  Like Georgie C use to say Trump has “no hand” and yet due to his petty ego is going to push this forward.   And sorry slim but rationalizing that somehow federal employees excepted the risk of working without pay is utter nonsense.   A fundamental principle of our country’s fabric is that workers be compensated for their efforts and the federal govt should be the model for that principle not the exception.


    My point,, that these employees are not force to work..was directed by name to StumpTownStu in a reply to his post ..

    "American citizens forced to work without pay should not be considered leverage."

    I contend that they are not forced to work without pay.....they can resign and find another job ...there are risk in any occupation and in government jobs this is one ...and one they took when they signed up..they have to roll with it ..or leave.. They are not forced to work without pay...They are making a conscious decision that the long-term upside ( $ & benefits) to keeping their job is greater than quitting...

    To my point,,, of the 44,000 TSA workers,some TSA employees have already resigned..and if enough of them quit ..the government can privatize the TSA for the betterment of American travelers..
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Sorry but this is all Trump.  Yes Dems r slimy hypos but Trump had 2 yrs to do it and chose not to.   As noted elections have consequences and the mid term messages were pretty clear.  Like Georgie C use to say Trump has “no hand” and yet due to his petty ego is going to push this forward.   And sorry slim but rationalizing that somehow federal employees excepted the risk of working without pay is utter nonsense.   A fundamental principle of our country’s fabric is that workers be compensated for their efforts and the federal govt should be the model for that principle not the exception.


    My point,, that these employees are not force to work..was directed by name to StumpTownStu in a reply to his post ..

    "American citizens forced to work without pay should not be considered leverage."

    I contend that they are not forced to work without pay.....they can resign and find another job ...there are risk in any occupation and in government jobs this is one ...and one they took when they signed up..they have to roll with it ..or leave.. They are not forced to work without pay...They are making a conscious decision that the long-term upside ( $ & benefits) to keeping their job is greater than quitting...

    To my point,,, of the 44,000 TSA workers,some TSA employees have already resigned..and if enough of them quit ..the government can privatize the TSA for the betterment of American travelers..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 2:48 PM ET #34

    Still reaching.  To suggest that 25 yr employees can just pivot on a dime and find alternative employment is absurd (like out of touch Reagan use to say In the face of rising unemployment “idk why they just can’t look in the want ads and find a job”).   Also, it is just as absurd to suggest any of these workers considered or should have considered, the idea of a working without pay as part of their career decision.   It is against the law for a private e’er to require an ind to work without compensation and as many of us have argued the rules should be the same across the board in all situations.   This situation just illustrates how broken our system is.   

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    Still reaching.  To suggest that 25 yr employees can just pivot on a dime and find alternative employment is absurd (like out of touch Reagan use to say In the face of rising unemployment “idk why they just can’t look in the want ads and find a job”).   Also, it is just as absurd to suggest any of these workers considered or should have considered, the idea of a working without pay as part of their career decision.   It is against the law for a private e’er to require an ind to work without compensation and as many of us have argued the rules should be the same across the board in all situations.   This situation just illustrates how broken our system is.   

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 3:12 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Still reaching.  To suggest that 25 yr employees can just pivot on a dime and find alternative employment is absurd (like out of touch Reagan use to say In the face of rising unemployment “idk why they just can’t look in the want ads and find a job”).   Also, it is just as absurd to suggest any of these workers considered or should have considered, the idea of a working without pay as part of their career decision.   It is against the law for a private e’er to require an ind to work without compensation and as many of us have argued the rules should be the same across the board in all situations.   This situation just illustrates how broken our system is.   


    Good points ,,,nevertheless..they are not force to work without pay..
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Still reaching.  To suggest that 25 yr employees can just pivot on a dime and find alternative employment is absurd (like out of touch Reagan use to say In the face of rising unemployment “idk why they just can’t look in the want ads and find a job”).   Also, it is just as absurd to suggest any of these workers considered or should have considered, the idea of a working without pay as part of their career decision.   It is against the law for a private e’er to require an ind to work without compensation and as many of us have argued the rules should be the same across the board in all situations.   This situation just illustrates how broken our system is.   


    Good points ,,,nevertheless..they are not force to work without pay..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 3:37 PM ET #36

    Yes slim they are. As the 1980's flight control strike demonstrates that of your job is determined to be essential you must work. And can not strike. 

    These employees are pawns what Trump does not realize is Pelosi has taken you can not negotiate with a terrorist, and honestly shecould.care less about any worker in the federal government over the principles of you van not negotiate with a terrorist.  

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    Yes slim they are. As the 1980's flight control strike demonstrates that of your job is determined to be essential you must work. And can not strike. 

    These employees are pawns what Trump does not realize is Pelosi has taken you can not negotiate with a terrorist, and honestly shecould.care less about any worker in the federal government over the principles of you van not negotiate with a terrorist.  

     
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    How do I explain this . America and the war industrial Corp.  Eisenhower warned Kennedy in a farewell address. Kennedy was assassinated for shut down of the Orion and not wanting to escalate but talk with ho chi min . Nixon was impeached for ending Vietnam. Pelosi and Bush with most of them Grove . At the family Banque in July San Fran orchestrated the Iraq invasion to take the loot, antiquities from then newly found Nineveh collection Mosul iraq.  We continue this nonsense, because most in Washington play fight for the cameras really they are mostly best of friends. As most lawyers are. Trump does not belong. He is new money, even Obama on his mother's side was related to Cheney.  Trump is neither he us a German Scot new money threat.  He is toast and drew the dreaded 10 of spades (swords) . But at least we have something to spoil that party. Washington was just way too well Washington good to throw a monkey wrench in the spokes of that Harley once in while.
    I will sincerely pray you reach Heaven at the end of your life. I will then pray the first course in your enlightenment will be 20th Century American History. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    How do I explain this . America and the war industrial Corp.  Eisenhower warned Kennedy in a farewell address. Kennedy was assassinated for shut down of the Orion and not wanting to escalate but talk with ho chi min . Nixon was impeached for ending Vietnam. Pelosi and Bush with most of them Grove . At the family Banque in July San Fran orchestrated the Iraq invasion to take the loot, antiquities from then newly found Nineveh collection Mosul iraq.  We continue this nonsense, because most in Washington play fight for the cameras really they are mostly best of friends. As most lawyers are. Trump does not belong. He is new money, even Obama on his mother's side was related to Cheney.  Trump is neither he us a German Scot new money threat.  He is toast and drew the dreaded 10 of spades (swords) . But at least we have something to spoil that party. Washington was just way too well Washington good to throw a monkey wrench in the spokes of that Harley once in while.
    I will sincerely pray you reach Heaven at the end of your life. I will then pray the first course in your enlightenment will be 20th Century American History. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Still reaching.  To suggest that 25 yr employees can just pivot on a dime and find alternative employment is absurd (like out of touch Reagan use to say In the face of rising unemployment “idk why they just can’t look in the want ads and find a job”).   Also, it is just as absurd to suggest any of these workers considered or should have considered, the idea of a working without pay as part of their career decision.   It is against the law for a private e’er to require an ind to work without compensation and as many of us have argued the rules should be the same across the board in all situations.   This situation just illustrates how broken our system is.   


    Really?  I don't see it as absurd at all.  People do it all the time.  Now, it may be inconvenient.  But, if you felt it was so troublesome to have to, possibly, withstand a shutdown every year or two, then it is not absurd at all to switch careers.  They have a skill that transitions fairly easily to the private sector.
    However, everyone, should be prepared to be without a paycheck for 2-3 or even 6 months.  You should not go through life living from paycheck to paycheck.  That is asking for trouble.  But they know they will get back-pay.  The ones to feel sorry for are the ones that do not plan ahead but do not work for the government and are paycheck to paycheck.  They do not get back-pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Still reaching.  To suggest that 25 yr employees can just pivot on a dime and find alternative employment is absurd (like out of touch Reagan use to say In the face of rising unemployment “idk why they just can’t look in the want ads and find a job”).   Also, it is just as absurd to suggest any of these workers considered or should have considered, the idea of a working without pay as part of their career decision.   It is against the law for a private e’er to require an ind to work without compensation and as many of us have argued the rules should be the same across the board in all situations.   This situation just illustrates how broken our system is.   


    Really?  I don't see it as absurd at all.  People do it all the time.  Now, it may be inconvenient.  But, if you felt it was so troublesome to have to, possibly, withstand a shutdown every year or two, then it is not absurd at all to switch careers.  They have a skill that transitions fairly easily to the private sector.
    However, everyone, should be prepared to be without a paycheck for 2-3 or even 6 months.  You should not go through life living from paycheck to paycheck.  That is asking for trouble.  But they know they will get back-pay.  The ones to feel sorry for are the ones that do not plan ahead but do not work for the government and are paycheck to paycheck.  They do not get back-pay.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    How do I explain this . America and the war industrial Corp.  Eisenhower warned Kennedy in a farewell address. Kennedy was assassinated for shut down of the Orion and not wanting to escalate but talk with ho chi min . Nixon was impeached for ending Vietnam. Pelosi and Bush with most of them Grove . At the family Banque in July San Fran orchestrated the Iraq invasion to take the loot, antiquities from then newly found Nineveh collection Mosul iraq.  We continue this nonsense, because most in Washington play fight for the cameras really they are mostly best of friends. As most lawyers are. Trump does not belong. He is new money, even Obama on his mother's side was related to Cheney.  Trump is neither he us a German Scot new money threat.  He is toast and drew the dreaded 10 of spades (swords) . But at least we have something to spoil that party. Washington was just way too well Washington good to throw a monkey wrench in the spokes of that Harley once in while.
    I will sincerely pray you reach Heaven at the end of your life. I will then pray the first course in your enlightenment will be 20th Century American History. Good luck.

    Oh I don't feel I will be going anywhere near heaven for a couple life times anyway.  Oh I dread I will be on this god forsaken rock earth for at least another 1000 years. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    How do I explain this . America and the war industrial Corp.  Eisenhower warned Kennedy in a farewell address. Kennedy was assassinated for shut down of the Orion and not wanting to escalate but talk with ho chi min . Nixon was impeached for ending Vietnam. Pelosi and Bush with most of them Grove . At the family Banque in July San Fran orchestrated the Iraq invasion to take the loot, antiquities from then newly found Nineveh collection Mosul iraq.  We continue this nonsense, because most in Washington play fight for the cameras really they are mostly best of friends. As most lawyers are. Trump does not belong. He is new money, even Obama on his mother's side was related to Cheney.  Trump is neither he us a German Scot new money threat.  He is toast and drew the dreaded 10 of spades (swords) . But at least we have something to spoil that party. Washington was just way too well Washington good to throw a monkey wrench in the spokes of that Harley once in while.
    I will sincerely pray you reach Heaven at the end of your life. I will then pray the first course in your enlightenment will be 20th Century American History. Good luck.

    Oh I don't feel I will be going anywhere near heaven for a couple life times anyway.  Oh I dread I will be on this god forsaken rock earth for at least another 1000 years. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2019 - 1:23 PM ET #40

    But within the topic of this fiasco thronged government shut down of modern industrialized times. Two world wars shut the doors heck to the no. Trumps wall pence fence debate continues.

    The credit squeeze will begin without congress raising the national debt banks can not grant unsecured loans even to perfect credit. Tough days at the car sales yard.

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    But within the topic of this fiasco thronged government shut down of modern industrialized times. Two world wars shut the doors heck to the no. Trumps wall pence fence debate continues.

    The credit squeeze will begin without congress raising the national debt banks can not grant unsecured loans even to perfect credit. Tough days at the car sales yard.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2019 - 3:16 PM ET #41

     

    “Due to the Shutdown, I am sorry to inform you that your trip to Brussels, Egypt, and Afghanistan has been postponed,” he wrote, informing the speaker that she could “reschedule” the weeklong trip abroad when the shutdown was over.

     

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    “Due to the Shutdown, I am sorry to inform you that your trip to Brussels, Egypt, and Afghanistan has been postponed,” he wrote, informing the speaker that she could “reschedule” the weeklong trip abroad when the shutdown was over.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2019 - 4:12 PM ET #42

    I would love to see Nancy fly coach.
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    I would love to see Nancy fly coach.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2019 - 6:04 PM ET #43

    The link below is an AF bus returning to the Capitol after Trump canceled the Speaker's trip overseas. Included are various tweets describing the situation. . Shockingly Adam Schitt was on the bus! Why does he need to go overseas? Winning!

    https://12160.info/page/nancy-s-crew-stuck-on-a-bus-while-her-staff-frantically-calls-whi




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    The link below is an AF bus returning to the Capitol after Trump canceled the Speaker's trip overseas. Included are various tweets describing the situation. . Shockingly Adam Schitt was on the bus! Why does he need to go overseas? Winning!

    https://12160.info/page/nancy-s-crew-stuck-on-a-bus-while-her-staff-frantically-calls-whi




     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2019 - 6:32 PM ET #44

    that was hillarious sundance. bus off to the airport no government is shut down, adam shifty get off the bus....lolol

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    that was hillarious sundance. bus off to the airport no government is shut down, adam shifty get off the bus....lolol

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2019 - 6:39 PM ET #45

    Dying laughing 


    Poor Nancy and Chuck , they have never faced a Republican who fights back 
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    Dying laughing 


    Poor Nancy and Chuck , they have never faced a Republican who fights back 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2019 - 6:54 PM ET #46

    Pelosi cancels SOTU ..."Playing hardball"

    Trump cancels Pelosi trip..."Childish"

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    Pelosi cancels SOTU ..."Playing hardball"

    Trump cancels Pelosi trip..."Childish"

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2019 - 7:07 PM ET #47

    she had just got oof the floor defending that people work get paid and then she was caught sneaking out of town with the leadership in toe....lmfao @ the blatant hypocrisy from the old gal......

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    she had just got oof the floor defending that people work get paid and then she was caught sneaking out of town with the leadership in toe....lmfao @ the blatant hypocrisy from the old gal......

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    How do I explain this . America and the war industrial Corp.  Eisenhower warned Kennedy in a farewell address. Kennedy was assassinated for shut down of the Orion and not wanting to escalate but talk with ho chi min . Nixon was impeached for ending Vietnam. Pelosi and Bush with most of them Grove . At the family Banque in July San Fran orchestrated the Iraq invasion to take the loot, antiquities from then newly found Nineveh collection Mosul iraq.  We continue this nonsense, because most in Washington play fight for the cameras really they are mostly best of friends. As most lawyers are. Trump does not belong. He is new money, even Obama on his mother's side was related to Cheney.  Trump is neither he us a German Scot new money threat.  He is toast and drew the dreaded 10 of spades (swords) . But at least we have something to spoil that party. Washington was just way too well Washington good to throw a monkey wrench in the spokes of that Harley once in while.
    I will sincerely pray you reach Heaven at the end of your life. I will then pray the first course in your enlightenment will be 20th Century American History. Good luck.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBNmecVtdU start at 8:30 of the program then listen to the end those 8 minutes you can understand why we say corp fuks

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    How do I explain this . America and the war industrial Corp.  Eisenhower warned Kennedy in a farewell address. Kennedy was assassinated for shut down of the Orion and not wanting to escalate but talk with ho chi min . Nixon was impeached for ending Vietnam. Pelosi and Bush with most of them Grove . At the family Banque in July San Fran orchestrated the Iraq invasion to take the loot, antiquities from then newly found Nineveh collection Mosul iraq.  We continue this nonsense, because most in Washington play fight for the cameras really they are mostly best of friends. As most lawyers are. Trump does not belong. He is new money, even Obama on his mother's side was related to Cheney.  Trump is neither he us a German Scot new money threat.  He is toast and drew the dreaded 10 of spades (swords) . But at least we have something to spoil that party. Washington was just way too well Washington good to throw a monkey wrench in the spokes of that Harley once in while.
    I will sincerely pray you reach Heaven at the end of your life. I will then pray the first course in your enlightenment will be 20th Century American History. Good luck.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBNmecVtdU start at 8:30 of the program then listen to the end those 8 minutes you can understand why we say corp fuks

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2019 - 8:08 PM ET #49

    davos the part Nancys missing

    In addition to record participation from the public sector, the private sector will be represented by more than 1,700 leaders. Civil society is represented by almost 900 leaders from NGOs, social entrepreneurs, academia, labour organizations, faith-based and religious groups and media. Britain’s Prince William, the Duke of Cambridge, is attending to discuss his work on mental health

    maybe trump should give Nancy the keys to the car, she could use some wisdom from princy this year.

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    davos the part Nancys missing

    In addition to record participation from the public sector, the private sector will be represented by more than 1,700 leaders. Civil society is represented by almost 900 leaders from NGOs, social entrepreneurs, academia, labour organizations, faith-based and religious groups and media. Britain’s Prince William, the Duke of Cambridge, is attending to discuss his work on mental health

    maybe trump should give Nancy the keys to the car, she could use some wisdom from princy this year.

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2019 - 8:59 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Dying laughing 


    Poor Nancy and Chuck , they have never faced a Republican who fights back 

    At least our President is a gracious and compassionate person...So that Pelosi and the members of her entourage didn't have to worry about their luggage ...He had Nancy Pelosi's and her travel members luggage returned to the halls of Congress by cart and put by her office....and labeled CODEL( Congressional Delegation.)

    The picture shows the luggage returned to Pelosi's door..
    https://therightscoop.com/photo-trump-has-pelosis-luggage-deliver-right-to-her-door/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Dying laughing 


    Poor Nancy and Chuck , they have never faced a Republican who fights back 

    At least our President is a gracious and compassionate person...So that Pelosi and the members of her entourage didn't have to worry about their luggage ...He had Nancy Pelosi's and her travel members luggage returned to the halls of Congress by cart and put by her office....and labeled CODEL( Congressional Delegation.)

    The picture shows the luggage returned to Pelosi's door..
    https://therightscoop.com/photo-trump-has-pelosis-luggage-deliver-right-to-her-door/
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