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    SarasotaSlim
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2019 - 7:13 PM ET #1

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer will give their party's counter response to President Donald Trump's Oval Office prime-time address on border security ...tonight.

     Pelosi and Schumer demanded equal time after the White House requested that television networks make time to address the nation..
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    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer will give their party's counter response to President Donald Trump's Oval Office prime-time address on border security ...tonight.

     Pelosi and Schumer demanded equal time after the White House requested that television networks make time to address the nation..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2019 - 8:08 PM ET #2

    Do you think a rebuttal is fair?

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    Do you think a rebuttal is fair?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2019 - 8:49 PM ET #3

    The rebuttal is pre recorded and pre.rehearsed. it is a sad day but the town cryer orator has become our rulers. Simply put Trump is angling for a deal. So he can get everything he wants. And call this a compromise. It is his grandest bargain next to peace in the holy land. 

    He wants things the democrats want. Like daca. But his base does not understand that so he gets a wall they want and the dems get data they want because he wants these things. 

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    The rebuttal is pre recorded and pre.rehearsed. it is a sad day but the town cryer orator has become our rulers. Simply put Trump is angling for a deal. So he can get everything he wants. And call this a compromise. It is his grandest bargain next to peace in the holy land. 

    He wants things the democrats want. Like daca. But his base does not understand that so he gets a wall they want and the dems get data they want because he wants these things. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2019 - 8:53 PM ET #4

    Pelosi Schumer already turned down an opp to listen to the argument. Schumer exercised his white male privledge and shut her down before she could finish her presentation. 

    Pelosi Scumer have issues with powerful women?

    I thought they supported women in the workplace?

     

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    Pelosi Schumer already turned down an opp to listen to the argument. Schumer exercised his white male privledge and shut her down before she could finish her presentation. 

    Pelosi Scumer have issues with powerful women?

    I thought they supported women in the workplace?

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2019 - 9:49 PM ET #5

    How do I explain this . America and the war industrial Corp.  Eisenhower warned Kennedy in a farewell address. Kennedy was assassinated for shut down of the Orion and not wanting to escalate but talk with ho chi min . Nixon was impeached for ending Vietnam. Pelosi and Bush with most of them Grove . At the family Banque in July San Fran orchestrated the Iraq invasion to take the loot, antiquities from then newly found Nineveh collection Mosul iraq. 

    We continue this nonsense, because most in Washington play fight for the cameras really they are mostly best of friends. As most lawyers are. Trump does not belong. He is new money, even Obama on his mother's side was related to Cheney.  Trump is neither he us a German Scot new money threat. 

    He is toast and drew the dreaded 10 of spades (swords) . But at least we have something to spoil that party. Washington was just way too well Washington good to throw a monkey wrench in the spokes of that Harley once in while.

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    How do I explain this . America and the war industrial Corp.  Eisenhower warned Kennedy in a farewell address. Kennedy was assassinated for shut down of the Orion and not wanting to escalate but talk with ho chi min . Nixon was impeached for ending Vietnam. Pelosi and Bush with most of them Grove . At the family Banque in July San Fran orchestrated the Iraq invasion to take the loot, antiquities from then newly found Nineveh collection Mosul iraq. 

    We continue this nonsense, because most in Washington play fight for the cameras really they are mostly best of friends. As most lawyers are. Trump does not belong. He is new money, even Obama on his mother's side was related to Cheney.  Trump is neither he us a German Scot new money threat. 

    He is toast and drew the dreaded 10 of spades (swords) . But at least we have something to spoil that party. Washington was just way too well Washington good to throw a monkey wrench in the spokes of that Harley once in while.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2019 - 9:58 PM ET #6

    Schumer and Pelosi fund the Government and then we can debate the wall...

    Translated :  Sign the funding Bill and give up your leverage..
    ..then Good Luck trying to get one red cent for your barrier..


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    Schumer and Pelosi fund the Government and then we can debate the wall...

    Translated :  Sign the funding Bill and give up your leverage..
    ..then Good Luck trying to get one red cent for your barrier..


     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2019 - 10:22 PM ET #7

    Let's see how many Republicans jump ship when constituents don't receive paychecks Friday.

    Loyalty does not exist in DC & Trump is loyal to no one. Here's a reminder of the joke I told months ago...

     

    Ivanka: "Daddy, are we all going to jail?"

    Trump: "No, honey. Just you & your brothers." 

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    Let's see how many Republicans jump ship when constituents don't receive paychecks Friday.

    Loyalty does not exist in DC & Trump is loyal to no one. Here's a reminder of the joke I told months ago...

     

    Ivanka: "Daddy, are we all going to jail?"

    Trump: "No, honey. Just you & your brothers." 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2019 - 11:18 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Schumer and Pelosi fund the Government and then we can debate the wall...Translated :  Sign the funding Bill and give up your leverage....then Good Luck trying to get one red cent for your barrier..

    Slim, American citizens forced to work without pay should not be considered leverage.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Schumer and Pelosi fund the Government and then we can debate the wall...Translated :  Sign the funding Bill and give up your leverage....then Good Luck trying to get one red cent for your barrier..

    Slim, American citizens forced to work without pay should not be considered leverage.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2019 - 11:22 PM ET #9

    Does the secret service get a pay check during this debate? Just asking....

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    Does the secret service get a pay check during this debate? Just asking....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2019 - 11:25 PM ET #10

    Also absolutely loved Nancy 2.0 she was eloquent to the point no Audrey Hepburn twitches laugh lines or wrinkle neck yep she a keeper.....

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    Also absolutely loved Nancy 2.0 she was eloquent to the point no Audrey Hepburn twitches laugh lines or wrinkle neck yep she a keeper.....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2019 - 12:33 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Slim, American citizens forced to work without pay should not be considered leverage.


    Stu,my brothaa ..they are not forced to work without pay  ..they could quit....isn't it a risk all federal employees take when they take a job working as an essential employee for the US government ?   Especially knowing there is the possibility of shut downs when they sign up..

    Federal employees are paid something like 17 % more in compensating than people doing the same or like job in the private sector ..that's one reason they take these jobs..but it has risks.

    Yes, it's to bad for them and their families.. However,before they took these jobs they knew the risk of a shut down without pay is always there ..so they are not forced to work without pay..they could find work in the private sector..
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Slim, American citizens forced to work without pay should not be considered leverage.


    Stu,my brothaa ..they are not forced to work without pay  ..they could quit....isn't it a risk all federal employees take when they take a job working as an essential employee for the US government ?   Especially knowing there is the possibility of shut downs when they sign up..

    Federal employees are paid something like 17 % more in compensating than people doing the same or like job in the private sector ..that's one reason they take these jobs..but it has risks.

    Yes, it's to bad for them and their families.. However,before they took these jobs they knew the risk of a shut down without pay is always there ..so they are not forced to work without pay..they could find work in the private sector..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2019 - 12:51 AM ET #12

    *Give me an "o".......too bad.
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    *Give me an "o".......too bad.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2019 - 1:43 AM ET #13

    The funniest comment I heard...“Chuck and Nancy look like they’re trying to sell me a reverse mortgage”
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    The funniest comment I heard...“Chuck and Nancy look like they’re trying to sell me a reverse mortgage”
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2019 - 5:33 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Slim, American citizens forced to work without pay should not be considered leverage.
    Stu,my brothaa ..they are not forced to work without pay  ..they could quit....isn't it a risk all federal employees take when they take a job working as an essential employee for the US government ?   Especially knowing there is the possibility of shut downs when they sign up..Federal employees are paid something like 17 % more in compensating than people doing the same or like job in the private sector ..that's one reason they take these jobs..but it has risks.Yes, it's to bad for them and their families.. However,before they took these jobs they knew the risk of a shut down without pay is always there ..so they are not forced to work without pay..they could find work in the private sector..

    So you shouldn't join a union because it might strike? Maybe you shouldn't play baseball because there's a chance you could get beaned by a pitch. There's no logic in your argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Slim, American citizens forced to work without pay should not be considered leverage.
    Stu,my brothaa ..they are not forced to work without pay  ..they could quit....isn't it a risk all federal employees take when they take a job working as an essential employee for the US government ?   Especially knowing there is the possibility of shut downs when they sign up..Federal employees are paid something like 17 % more in compensating than people doing the same or like job in the private sector ..that's one reason they take these jobs..but it has risks.Yes, it's to bad for them and their families.. However,before they took these jobs they knew the risk of a shut down without pay is always there ..so they are not forced to work without pay..they could find work in the private sector..

    So you shouldn't join a union because it might strike? Maybe you shouldn't play baseball because there's a chance you could get beaned by a pitch. There's no logic in your argument.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2019 - 5:55 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

     

    So you shouldn't join a union because it might strike? Maybe you shouldn't play baseball because there's a chance you could get beaned by a pitch. There's no logic in your argument.


    You make good points ...don't join unions and don't go to the plate without a helmet..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

     

    So you shouldn't join a union because it might strike? Maybe you shouldn't play baseball because there's a chance you could get beaned by a pitch. There's no logic in your argument.


    You make good points ...don't join unions and don't go to the plate without a helmet..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2019 - 7:22 PM ET #16

    This isn't about border security. It's about a farking useless anti American values wall. It's about a classic TTT..Trump Temper Tantrum. 

    BTW..you do realize he only spent 6% of the 1.6 billion allocated for border security in 2017.

    And didn't he promise Mexico was paying for the wall?

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    This isn't about border security. It's about a farking useless anti American values wall. It's about a classic TTT..Trump Temper Tantrum. 

    BTW..you do realize he only spent 6% of the 1.6 billion allocated for border security in 2017.

    And didn't he promise Mexico was paying for the wall?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2019 - 7:30 PM ET #17

    Robert Costa reports McConnell & McCarthy didn't say a word in the 14 minute meeting today. Some Republican leadership, huh? Why are they so afraid of Trump?

    Schumer asked Trump why Trump wouldn't reopen the government and stop hurting people. Trump replied "Because then you won't give me what I want."

    What you want???? WTF???? 

    It's all about what he wants. POS!

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    Robert Costa reports McConnell & McCarthy didn't say a word in the 14 minute meeting today. Some Republican leadership, huh? Why are they so afraid of Trump?

    Schumer asked Trump why Trump wouldn't reopen the government and stop hurting people. Trump replied "Because then you won't give me what I want."

    What you want???? WTF???? 

    It's all about what he wants. POS!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2019 - 7:38 PM ET #18

    Pelosi to Trump today "the evidence does not support the situation you describe."

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    Pelosi to Trump today "the evidence does not support the situation you describe."

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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2019 - 7:58 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    This isn't about border security. It's about a farking useless anti American values wall. It's about a classic TTT..Trump Temper Tantrum. 

    BTW..you do realize he only spent 6% of the 1.6 billion allocated for border security in 2017.

    And didn't he promise Mexico was paying for the wall?



    The 6 % figure first emerged from Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., the Washington Post Fact Checker awarded his statement Three Pinocchios.)....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    This isn't about border security. It's about a farking useless anti American values wall. It's about a classic TTT..Trump Temper Tantrum. 

    BTW..you do realize he only spent 6% of the 1.6 billion allocated for border security in 2017.

    And didn't he promise Mexico was paying for the wall?



    The 6 % figure first emerged from Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., the Washington Post Fact Checker awarded his statement Three Pinocchios.)....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2019 - 8:44 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    This isn't about border security. It's about a farking useless anti American values wall. It's about a classic TTT..Trump Temper Tantrum.  BTW..you do realize he only spent 6% of the 1.6 billion allocated for border security in 2017. And didn't he promise Mexico was paying for the wall?
    The 6 % figure first emerged from Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., the Washington Post Fact Checker awarded his statement Three Pinocchios.)....

     

    https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/news/minority/statement-of-senate-appropriations-committee-vice-chairman-patrick-leahy-d-vt-on-the-trump-shutdown-threat

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/?utm_term=.5cd40ae1abd8

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    This isn't about border security. It's about a farking useless anti American values wall. It's about a classic TTT..Trump Temper Tantrum.  BTW..you do realize he only spent 6% of the 1.6 billion allocated for border security in 2017. And didn't he promise Mexico was paying for the wall?
    The 6 % figure first emerged from Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., the Washington Post Fact Checker awarded his statement Three Pinocchios.)....

     

    https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/news/minority/statement-of-senate-appropriations-committee-vice-chairman-patrick-leahy-d-vt-on-the-trump-shutdown-threat

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/?utm_term=.5cd40ae1abd8

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2019 - 8:25 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by faceoff:

    People slant the truth to fit their own agenda's... All that needed to be done by Pelosi-Schumer was to negotiate... Yet they pouted and continued to fight the inevitable.... Power hungry people who are helping make Occasio more relevant and the old left leaning dinosaurs obsolete...

     

    Trumps message is honest and to the point... BORDER SECURITY....

     

    Schumer and Pelosi promise if Trump stops the shutdown, they will bargain...

     

    LIARS...

     

     


    Chuck and Nancy should have just said they would match every dollar that came from Mexico earmarked for a wall. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by faceoff:

    People slant the truth to fit their own agenda's... All that needed to be done by Pelosi-Schumer was to negotiate... Yet they pouted and continued to fight the inevitable.... Power hungry people who are helping make Occasio more relevant and the old left leaning dinosaurs obsolete...

     

    Trumps message is honest and to the point... BORDER SECURITY....

     

    Schumer and Pelosi promise if Trump stops the shutdown, they will bargain...

     

    LIARS...

     

     


    Chuck and Nancy should have just said they would match every dollar that came from Mexico earmarked for a wall. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 4:43 PM ET #22

    Not a trump supporter but have no problem with the wall..This country wastes 5 nil on regular intervals with nothing to show for it at lest we can see it If there were a special vote it would win hands down
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    Not a trump supporter but have no problem with the wall..This country wastes 5 nil on regular intervals with nothing to show for it at lest we can see it If there were a special vote it would win hands down
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 8:17 PM ET #23

    Trump said Mexico was paying for the wall.

    Where are the pesos?

    Lying POS 

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    Trump said Mexico was paying for the wall.

    Where are the pesos?

    Lying POS 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2019 - 8:34 PM ET #24

    "...one faction, of one party, in one House of Congress, in one branch of government, doesn't get to shut down the entire government, just to refight the results of an election."

                                        ~ Sept.30th 2013  Fmr. Pres.Barack Obama
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    "...one faction, of one party, in one House of Congress, in one branch of government, doesn't get to shut down the entire government, just to refight the results of an election."

                                        ~ Sept.30th 2013  Fmr. Pres.Barack Obama
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2019 - 12:09 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by faceoff:

    Chuck and Nancy should have just said they would match every dollar that came from Mexico earmarked for a wall.

     

    Still doesn't change the facts... The Dem leaders pouting, vying for POWER... Would have been really simple to just take the high road and negotiate.... They have all, in the past, agreed that border security is needed... Chuck and Nancy have been there for years and years, both admitting in the past that security is a priority.... BUT TRUMP WANTS IT, so it's a '' no go ''... 


    There was a deal cut in Jan2018 ,trump reneged , you reap what you sow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faceoff:

    Chuck and Nancy should have just said they would match every dollar that came from Mexico earmarked for a wall.

     

    Still doesn't change the facts... The Dem leaders pouting, vying for POWER... Would have been really simple to just take the high road and negotiate.... They have all, in the past, agreed that border security is needed... Chuck and Nancy have been there for years and years, both admitting in the past that security is a priority.... BUT TRUMP WANTS IT, so it's a '' no go ''... 


    There was a deal cut in Jan2018 ,trump reneged , you reap what you sow.
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