One party wants Putin to succeed

[Quote: Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa]Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @Sidehatch   And it’s people like that who got us into WW2 by naively believing we could simply ignore the threats from Japan and Germany. That’s why Republicans like John McCain - whose grandpa stood on the deck of the USS Missouri as the Japanese surrendered - have a far greater understanding of foreign policy than Dotard Trump, who calls our brave vets losers and suckers according to his Chief of Staff John Kelly. This is a ‘tad’ oversimplification of the analogousness of these situations.   McCain may have understood foreign policy but it does not necessarily follow because one’s family understands something that they do also. Plus McCain was a known war hawk and would gladly sign onto any incursion.  Whereas, Trump at least does not seem open to getting involved in every skirmish around the world. Gee, that’s a gross oversimplification if I ever heard one. Trump promised to: bomb NK bomb Iran bomb Russia bomb Syria Suggested bombing Mexico endorsed sending any political opponents to prison suggested that VP Pence should be hanged suggested that American generals should be executed  has encouraged abuse of judges has encouraged abuse of court clerks  has said he hates POWs has endorsed terminating the Constitution has argued under penalty of perjury that any President has absolute immunity against any crimes commuted by said president while in office. This includes the murder of political opponents.   Oh yes, what a peaceful soul. Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt over veterans who served our country and were captured by the enemy.  So reply to all those points. No more trolling me by asking me four questions in four threads. Go ahead, you have to address them all. You’ve gotta be a real lowlife to hate our POWs, then wrap yourself in the flag. Fascism has come to America folks. If you want to see who is behind it, it’s the scum who is pro-Trump on all points listed above.   And yet, "" peace"" broke out when Trump was president the first time around.. ( see what I did there)Ya,I did see what you did there,you made a fool of yourself again.At least you are consistently a fool,good job fool,keep it up.[/Quote]

Trump did a great job of helping keep the peace globally, as I mentioned.  And yet , Joe successfully saw 2 wars break out in less than 3 years.   

Not sure who's the ' fool here, but facts matter where I come from.... the more you know.

A win for Ukraine (and Europe in general) is pushing the Russian communists out, back to the pre-war borders.  That's doable.  Getting Russia to repay Ukraine for the carnage & damage they have wrought is unlikely.

@ABooksNightmare

 Ok I will repeat what I repeated in this thread and so many times. Report posts and let the staff deal with it and have clean hands with regards to the situation and the poster and pretty much anything else. The problem is you do not have clean hands and abuse the rules yourself, have for years so you should be the last person here to call someone else out for breaking a rule. How about you keep them yourself and report what you think is rule breaking and leave the grandstanding and pulpit slamming out of it. You have way too much drama for someone who breaks the rules as heavy and often as you do.

The fascist sex-offender & convicted fraud - recently ranked by political science experts the WORST US President of all time - as also made clear he wants to do what all fascist want to do - go after the media!

@soup-can

I am not a fan of hers. But I cannot stand when folks do that to a public figure.  These folks cannot even enjoy a dinner out or a movie.  
I know she says things and does things a lot of folks do not agree with.  
But I do not recall her bothering folks while they are out for the evening. 

Never understand why folks want to confront someone like a maniac just because they happen to disagree with them and then see them in public.  
I completely understand why celebrities get upset with paparazzi as well. 
Weird fascination people have and weird they think this type of confrontation is okay. 

If you ever study logic and fallacies this is along the lines of ‘affirming the consequent’.  
That was NOT the topic I was addressing in this thread. If you would like to start a thread addressing that, go ahead — I will gladly come in and comment for you there.  
Otherwise, using argumentum ex Silentio is a very weak base to stand on here. 

so if I understand this correctly, if I go around COVERS and make comments in other threads about other posters being sexually confused there will be no rules broken and COVERS is completely fine with posters expressing themselves in this manner even if another poster finds it offensive....is that what I am understanding that you are stating above????

I just want clarity on this exact topic for future reference

Here are COVERS rules:

Seems like a clear violation if I am understanding the rules correctly...why is a poster allowed to talk about my sexuality in any capacity whatsoever, especially when I wasn't even talking to him?

Racism, sexism, and other discrimination

The use of inappropriate or offensive language is not permitted at COVERS. Inappropriate or offensive language includes, but is nto limited to, any language or content that is sexually oriented, sexually suggestive or abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, profane, hateful, or that contains racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable material of any kind.

@MrWhatsItToYa

Ask him then?  Otherwise, my reply is probably the case for him as well.  

It is the same thing as when a terrorist bombs a place somewhere.  Does a president of head of state really need to hold a press conference to come out and proclaim terrorism is bad?  Why isn’t that implicitly understood.  
Does a president really have to take a helicopter flight over a hurricane-struck area in Texas in order to show support and declare it a disaster?  
Why waste time and money to do that.  Isn’t it completely understood?  Nowadays we have high definition video and there is no need to go visit it.  It is understood it is a disaster and everyone sympathizes with them — including the President.  
So, do they need to come out and declare Putin an evil opponent-killing dictator?

Biden doesn’t even do it every time. 
If Trump ran out and held a press conference to say that every other day — it still would not be enough to sway folks like you to support him.  

So why waste time to say something that EVERYONE knows and understands to be true?

The Democrats, of course!! 

@Raiders22

 It was the topic you were addressing in this thread,weren't you the one who made the statement "Name who is giving Putin a pass on killing political opponents".And since I saw no statement from you condemning Putin on that situation in this thread.And as of now you haven't provided any post of yours in any other thread,of your condemnation of the act.Then yeah,your name could probably provide you an answer to your statement.Have you not studied the logic of "if you can't deal with the answer to a question,then maybe you just shouldn't ask the question".

You could of just answered "I do condemn Putin for killing his political opponents,I just haven't posted anything stating that yet".But instead you have to go to the excuse you usually use when you don't have a comeback,that this topic is not what you were addressing in this thread.And if i want to start a new thread addressing that,you would gladly come in and comment for me there.But you were the one in THIS thread who did address it,you were the one who made the statement asking "who is giving Putin a pass".Talk about someone using "a weak base to stand on".

@ABooksNightmare

 Correct...and what I already addressed is EXACTLY in reference to what you posted in deflection yet again. I state site rules and procedures, that is how it works here. You posted guidelines and yes you are 100% correct but do you know how it goes? If we upheld the guidelines in the Old Testament way, the way you want it to be upheld against Sidehatch for something posted TODAY....YOU would have been banned years ago, that is 100% fact. You have broken the rules 100x over what Sidehatch has and yet you are still here...still posting so what does that SAY to YOU? That says that moderators weigh situations, posters, their interactions and history and have a full perspective of the dynamic here and as I have stated 20x, this forum is the most combative outside the box and we allow more here than anywhere outside the box. So you have gotten away with so much rule breaking it is a miracle you have not been banned, that also means we are not boxing every single fringe instance especially since it is in THIS forum.

In the past several of your group has been boxed for stalking and harassing OUTSIDE this forum and into the mains, THAT is different than you guys knocking each other around in here to an extent. So would you like the letter of the law upheld and sidehatch boxed? Thats fine because within a few seconds you will also be banned for a history of infractions and regular, repeated breaking of the rules and you will continue to break the rules because you lack self control in dealing with people who bother you. 

I have no need to continue to say the same thing, the post above in this thread is all you need and all this conspiracy favoring nonsense is a waste of time. If someone is breaking the rules, REPORT IT and let the staff decide what the result is, then you toddle along your way and enjoy the site, work on being a better poster and try to be above and better than the stuff you are complaining about over and over and over and over.

@MrWhatsItToYa

 The guy is referring I think to politicians and, maybe pundits.  
That is why I asked him who exactly was he talking about?

But obviously, he cannot list anyone.  Because I know of no one like that.  

My other long-winded answer applies here.  Basically, just because those guys do not want funding sent to Ukraine does NOT mean they are ‘pro-Putin’. 
If so, find where one of those guys has said he is ‘pro-Putin’. Or where they say they do not want to send money because they support Putin. 

It is a bad way to argue your point.  
If you want to send more money over there — make a better case.  Do not go straight to calling someone a Putin supporter if they do not want to.  
That is lazy logic at best — and a copout at worst because you cannot support your stance with valid reasons.  

@MrWhatsItToYa

 You could of just answered

By the way — this is the grammatical error again that is becoming a pet peeve. 

But I am getting used to it. 

@MrWhatsItToYa

 You could of just answered "I do condemn Putin for killing his political opponents,I just haven't posted anything stating that yet".But instead you have to go to the excuse you usually use when you don't have a comeback,that this topic is not what you were addressing in this thread.And if i want to start a new thread addressing that,you would gladly come in and comment for me there.But you were the one in THIS thread who did address it,you were the one who made the statement asking "who is giving Putin a pass".Talk about someone using "a weak base to stand on".

Correct.  I have found it is easier to focus folks on one or two topics at a time. Those two topics are completely different and actually have little to do with each other. 
Reason it out and see if you can make that connection with any other dictator that kills opponents or jails them or attacks other folks. 

But if you want to start a ‘Putin is a bad dictator and kills and jails political opponents’ thread — go ahead.  It might not get many responses.  Because it will just be another cheerleader thread.  Because it is implicitly understood already.  
So why does anyone have to say it over and over?

As I said before, we all sympathize with the hurricane victims, we see the pictures and know it is a disaster.  Wr know terrorism is wrong — we do not have to make sure our leaders come out and condemn it each time.  If they do not condemn it on a near daily basis — it does not mean they support it.  
Just because you have not heard a leader say Putin is bad does not MEAN they think he is good.  That is bad logic. 
It is a SEPARATE topic.  
It is lazy and faulty to just accuse someone of something BECAUSE they have not stated their feeling on it — ESPECIALLY when it is almost unanimously understood. 

So COVERS allows sexual comments to be made even when they were unprovoked so long as you have an outstanding image with the site...got it...

So as posters, we are allowed to tell other posters that they are sexually confused even if it insults their sexual orientation and is considered slanderous...

This helps a lot...appreciate the feedback/non-feedback on the specific issue at hand, and your generalization of things, as you have really cleared up a lot regarding how this site operates...

Gotcha. Yeah, I think we all agree on here about him.  
I was just asking who he thought in the political arena believed that way. 
But yes, all on here agree!

Nah.  I never really think it is important enough to call out.  This is not an English forum or some professional one.  
It is just curious to me how to or three certain have taken over everywhere. 
BUT, I also commented about what you said. 

@ABooksNightmare

 Reality is no mod or staff has to report to you why a decision is made or not so your last reply has zero relevance or meaning. In fact if you really felt as you described you would be on your 50th account by now, we would have banned you so long ago...using your faulty reasoning.

What I said is if you feel someone is breaking the rules, REPORT IT and then move along, the decision is not yours to make and no staff has to answer to you, so maybe the guy gets boxed maybe not...it is not your call and nobody will give you an answer unless they feel like it. So your  job is to enjoy the site, keep the rules, follow the guidelines and try to add value, do positive things for the site and others. This conspiracy looney toons stuff is quite boring and not even worth a reply.

You never answered my question, do you want the letter of the law here, that he gets boxed for whatever you are complaining about? I have not even looked up your tirade complaint, you are on such a pity party bender I dont even have reference to what it was. If you want to submit a report then someone will check it out and make the decision but consider yourself LUCKY that the rules are not enforced on YOU as a member the hypocritical way you want it enforced on others.

This thread has become quite the shitstorm.