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#26
Does anyone know of a testing site that tests to see what variant of Covid it is?
new covid mutation :: OMICRON believed worse than delta
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#27
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Today the Biden Administration announced a Travel Ban on South Africa and 7 other African nations over the “New COVID Variant” Does anyone remember what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris tweeted when Trump banned travel?
Today the Biden Administration announced a Travel Ban on South Africa and 7 other African nations over the “New COVID Variant” Does anyone remember what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris tweeted when Trump banned travel?
Biden, World health organization and John Hopkins university realize that travel bans have limited usefulness. Every country imposed travel restrictions although they do little more than temporarily delay worldwide pandemic. Despite travel restrictions, thousands of people still travelled from China or Europe to the US. Using a travel ban to stop a respiratory virus is like playing goalie in soccer and having 30 people shoot pucks at you at the same time. As long as virus spread, it can continue to mutate. Big panic over a new variant and punishing of countries that report it. But no panic over 3+ billion people in countries with poor access to vaccines?
Excellent points, as usual, by Thirdperson 
Posted:
#28
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Today the Biden Administration announced a Travel Ban on South Africa and 7 other African nations over the “New COVID Variant” Does anyone remember what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris tweeted when Trump banned travel?
Today the Biden Administration announced a Travel Ban on South Africa and 7 other African nations over the “New COVID Variant” Does anyone remember what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris tweeted when Trump banned travel?
Biden, World health organization and John Hopkins university realize that travel bans have limited usefulness. Every country imposed travel restrictions although they do little more than temporarily delay worldwide pandemic. Despite travel restrictions, thousands of people still travelled from China or Europe to the US. Using a travel ban to stop a respiratory virus is like playing goalie in soccer and having 30 people shoot pucks at you at the same time. As long as virus spread, it can continue to mutate. Big panic over a new variant and punishing of countries that report it. But no panic over 3+ billion people in countries with poor access to vaccines?
Excellent points, as usual, by Thirdperson
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#29
WORLDWIDE SCRAMBLE
TO CONTAIN THE NEW STRAIN
HUFFPOST -
THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — With each passing hour, new restrictions
were being slapped on travel from countries in southern Africa as the
world scurried Saturday to contain a new variant of the coronavirus that
has the potential to be more resistant to the protection offered by vaccines.
A host of countries, including Australia, Brazil, Canada Iran, Japan, Thailand
and the United States, joined others, including the European Union and
the U.K. in impose restrictions on southern African countries in response to
warnings over the transmissability of the new variant.
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#31
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: A lot of people in here worship at the Alter of Anthony Fauci! What a historic mistake! Quick example of the insanity. You must wear your worthless mask even though you have followed orders by getting 2 shots and a booster! How insane is that? The short version to the very long story. You/we have been played! A lot MORE people in here worship at the alter of trump's toilet. They like his sh!t Omicron, a new Covid-19 variant with high number of mutations, sparks travel bans and worries scientists Besides South Africa, the newly identified variant has been detected in Hong Kong and Belgium. It appears to be spreading rapidly. Scientists are concerned its unusually high number of mutations could make it more transmissible and result in immune evasion.
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: A lot of people in here worship at the Alter of Anthony Fauci! What a historic mistake! Quick example of the insanity. You must wear your worthless mask even though you have followed orders by getting 2 shots and a booster! How insane is that? The short version to the very long story. You/we have been played! A lot MORE people in here worship at the alter of trump's toilet. They like his sh!t Omicron, a new Covid-19 variant with high number of mutations, sparks travel bans and worries scientists Besides South Africa, the newly identified variant has been detected in Hong Kong and Belgium. It appears to be spreading rapidly. Scientists are concerned its unusually high number of mutations could make it more transmissible and result in immune evasion.
Bingo!! 
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#32
NewScientist,
Covid-19 news: Unvaccinated have 14 times greater risk of covid death
23 November 2021
Unvaccinated people in the US are at a 14 times greater risk of dying from covid-19 than those who are fully vaccinated against coronavirus,
Unvaccinated individuals are also almost six times as likely to test positive for the virus.
Posted:
#33
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
whole new ballgame ?! new covid variant worries scientists much more than delta variant believed potential hazzard to vaccinated as well as those who have 'natural immunity' from previous infection iow it could b that nobody is safe maybe still unknown for sure but initial reviews r not good
GETTING READY TO REPEAT THE CHEAT???????
whole new ballgame ?! new covid variant worries scientists much more than delta variant believed potential hazzard to vaccinated as well as those who have 'natural immunity' from previous infection iow it could b that nobody is safe maybe still unknown for sure but initial reviews r not good
Posted:
#35
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Does anyone know of a testing site that tests to see what variant of Covid it is?
Does anyone know of a testing site that tests to see what variant of Covid it is?
Genome sequencing is being performed in several "advanced" countries, South Africa being one of them. They may have found Omicron but it probably didn't start there. Takes time to genome sequence so this variant has had a head start. The most used PCR test fails to see the S-gene with Omicron because it is not there with this mutation. They are now using the PCR test to easily identify the Omicron based on this missing gene showing up in the test.
So far symptoms are reported to be heavy fatigue and symptoms are reported to be mild compared to Delta. Children appear to be more susceptible to this variant. Concern is what it will do to the elderly and immune compromised, same as the original virus.
With 30 mutations to the spike protein, same protein the vaccine is based on, it may make the current vaccine useless. Can't have that, can we. Let's see how long it takes to recognize that.
Travel ban from Biden is ridiculous with our southern border wide open to caravans of foreigners. NPR reported in June that hundreds of Africans made their way to South America and are crossing our border. Am sure that number grows daily.
It will get here just like Delta, just like the original COVID. So we can now blame Biden and the democrats for killing thousands more than Trump. After all, two completely different variants will have started overseas, been identified, and still were allowed into our country by this administration.
Posted:
#36
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
WORLDWIDE SCRAMBLE
TO CONTAIN THE NEW STRAIN
HUFFPOST -
THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) — With each passing hour, new restrictions
were being slapped on travel from countries in southern Africa as the
world scurried Saturday to contain a new variant of the coronavirus that
has the potential to be more resistant to the protection offered by vaccines.
A host of countries, including Australia, Brazil, Canada Iran, Japan, Thailand
and the United States, joined others, including the European Union and
the U.K. in impose restrictions on southern African countries in response to
warnings over the transmissability of the new variant.
Despite the shutdown of flights, there was increasing evidence that the
variant has already spread. Cases have been reported in travelers in
Belgium, Israel and Hong Kong, and Germany also has a probable case.
Dutch authorities are checking for the new variant after
61 passengers on two flights from South Africa tested positive.
Posted:
#37
Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
NewScientist,
23 November 2021
Unvaccinated people in the US are at a 14 times greater risk of dying from covid-19 than those who are fully vaccinated against coronavirus,
Unvaccinated individuals are also almost six times as likely to test positive for the virus.
Posted:
#38
Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
2 Omicron infected individuals arrive in Australia. Both are vaccinated! Here We Go...
2 Omicron infected individuals arrive in Australia. Both are vaccinated! Here We Go...
My neighbor was fully vaccinated against the measles, but still got infected...........with whooping cough.
Go figure.
Obviously, this proves conclusively that vaccines DON'T WORK!!!!
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#39
Highly unlikely current vaccines don't work on omichron variant according to National institute of health. Booster shots can help increase immunity. Improving vaccination worldwide is the best way to stop new variants emerging. However Journal of emergency management warns that travel bans become ineffective in curbing virus spread. World health organization cautions against travel bans since they may do more harm than good.
Posted:
#42
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Why did Democrats call Trumps travel ban racist but don’t say anything when Biden does it?
Why did Democrats call Trumps travel ban racist but don’t say anything when Biden does it?
According to politifact, Biden calls Trump xenophobic because of his record of hysteria, racism and fear mongering. For example, immigration visa policy that discriminates against Muslim countries. Trump's use of words such as "China virus." Not to travel restrictions themselves. Biden doesn't trust Trump but he supports travel restrictions when advocated by medical experts. Also he trusts vaccines if approved by Food drug administration. As a precaution, he takes every measure to keep Americans safe and defeat the pandemic.
Posted:
#43
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Why did Democrats call Trumps travel ban racist but don’t say anything when Biden does it?
Why did Democrats call Trumps travel ban racist but don’t say anything when Biden does it?
Trump had travel bans to and from advanced Europeon countries and China and the Left goes nuts, Biden picks out poor African nations. Yet nothing on our southern border!
You couldn't make this stuff up, right??
Remember last years election, "I HAVE A PLAN, go online and see MY PLAN". 
I read it then, nothing but words, no substanance.
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#45
Biden led the charge on an issue that kept black students away from the classrooms of white students.
Biden's legislative work against school integration advanced a more palatable version of the “separate but equal” doctrine and undermined the nation’s short-lived effort at educational equality, legislative and education history experts say.
Did politifact mention this in their article about Joe Biden’s travel ban on eight African countries?
Posted:
#46
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Why did Democrats call Trumps travel ban racist but don’t say anything when Biden does it? According to politifact, Biden calls Trump xenophobic because of his record of hysteria, racism and fear mongering. For example, immigration visa policy that discriminates against Muslim countries. Trump's use of words such as "China virus." Not to travel restrictions themselves. Biden doesn't trust Trump but he supports travel restrictions when advocated by medical experts. Also he trusts vaccines if approved by Food drug administration. As a precaution, he takes every measure to keep Americans safe and defeat the pandemic.
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Why did Democrats call Trumps travel ban racist but don’t say anything when Biden does it? According to politifact, Biden calls Trump xenophobic because of his record of hysteria, racism and fear mongering. For example, immigration visa policy that discriminates against Muslim countries. Trump's use of words such as "China virus." Not to travel restrictions themselves. Biden doesn't trust Trump but he supports travel restrictions when advocated by medical experts. Also he trusts vaccines if approved by Food drug administration. As a precaution, he takes every measure to keep Americans safe and defeat the pandemic.
yep big diff between liberal president biden and the preceeding fascist president chump
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Posted:
#48
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Biden doesn't trust Trump but he supports travel restrictions when advocated by medical experts. Also he trusts vaccines if approved by Food drug administration. As a precaution, he takes every measure to keep Americans safe and defeat the pandemic.
Good points.
Travel restrictions, or even travel bans, don't actually PREVENT a virus from entering the country but they can significantly reduce and slow the spread. It is prudent to take pre-emptive measures (cautiously) when it concerns public safety.
Posted:
#49
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Biden doesn't trust Trump but he supports travel restrictions when advocated by medical experts. Also he trusts vaccines if approved by Food drug administration. As a precaution, he takes every measure to keep Americans safe and defeat the pandemic. Good points. Travel restrictions, or even travel bans, don't actually PREVENT a virus from entering the country but they can significantly reduce and slow the spread. It is prudent to take pre-emptive measures (cautiously) when it concerns public safety.
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Biden doesn't trust Trump but he supports travel restrictions when advocated by medical experts. Also he trusts vaccines if approved by Food drug administration. As a precaution, he takes every measure to keep Americans safe and defeat the pandemic. Good points. Travel restrictions, or even travel bans, don't actually PREVENT a virus from entering the country but they can significantly reduce and slow the spread. It is prudent to take pre-emptive measures (cautiously) when it concerns public safety.
So shut the boarders down, restrict all international travel. Hell, might as well restrict all travel. Let's get 2 more weeks to slow the spread. If Biden doesn't shut down all travel then this new variant and what happens is all his fault, right?
Posted:
#50
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Biden doesn't trust Trump but he supports travel restrictions when advocated by medical experts. Also he trusts vaccines if approved by Food drug administration. As a precaution, he takes every measure to keep Americans safe and defeat the pandemic.
Good points.
Travel restrictions, or even travel bans, don't actually PREVENT a virus from entering the country but they can significantly reduce and slow the spread. It is prudent to take pre-emptive measures (cautiously) when it concerns public safety.
good pt fubah . the best way to beat the virus is now is to immunize through full vaccination plus masking and social distancing . that has always been the case since early 2020 and it still is .
fubah do u think biden is doing enuf ?
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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