Several Repub Governors are now blocking State colleges from requiring vaccinations for their students..... What? How F@cking Dumb! They're the HIGHEST risk group.....AND They are at an age where they are most likely to engage in Virus spreading behavior! I was a college head soccer coach for 14 years, I've spent my time on modern campuses... I'm just saying, yes, it's still one man's opinion, but on this subject I offer an informed opinion. Do Repubs really care about actual leadership? They other day Ron Johnson said: It's not my place to encourage or discourage vaccinations...really dumbass? Leadership is exactly about encouraging or discouraging certain behavior to your constituents...again, imo. It's sometimes hard to believe that many of these stupid MF's went to schools like Yale and Harvard. Yes, I'm a soccer coach, but in this case MF's does NOT stand for midfielders. To sum up...my main point is: Leaders should make decisions with the health and safety of their constituency first and foremost. Johnson's comments, and the recent decisions by Governors in Georgia, Indiana, and of course Texas, fail to live up to that standard. I welcome all opinions!
i agree with u
first priority of leadership is to keep those u govern safe from any and all harm of which u as a leader have some control
republicans ,but more specifically rumplicker repos , seem to abdicate this responsibility moreso than dems (although dems r not totally blameless either !!)
conservatives care mostly about me ,myself ,and i ; guns ; and the pursuit of wealth for them and others of acceptable ethnic persuasion
liberals believe "that all men are created equal , that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness "
it is my observation from more than 6 decades living that republicans used to lead the entire nation in that last line (quoted). they wore that like a badge of honor and rightly so ! (i was a reagan guy)
but i witnessed a dramatic change in their attitude after november 4th 2008
i wonder why ?
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Quote Originally Posted by dutchsoccercool:
Several Repub Governors are now blocking State colleges from requiring vaccinations for their students..... What? How F@cking Dumb! They're the HIGHEST risk group.....AND They are at an age where they are most likely to engage in Virus spreading behavior! I was a college head soccer coach for 14 years, I've spent my time on modern campuses... I'm just saying, yes, it's still one man's opinion, but on this subject I offer an informed opinion. Do Repubs really care about actual leadership? They other day Ron Johnson said: It's not my place to encourage or discourage vaccinations...really dumbass? Leadership is exactly about encouraging or discouraging certain behavior to your constituents...again, imo. It's sometimes hard to believe that many of these stupid MF's went to schools like Yale and Harvard. Yes, I'm a soccer coach, but in this case MF's does NOT stand for midfielders. To sum up...my main point is: Leaders should make decisions with the health and safety of their constituency first and foremost. Johnson's comments, and the recent decisions by Governors in Georgia, Indiana, and of course Texas, fail to live up to that standard. I welcome all opinions!
i agree with u
first priority of leadership is to keep those u govern safe from any and all harm of which u as a leader have some control
republicans ,but more specifically rumplicker repos , seem to abdicate this responsibility moreso than dems (although dems r not totally blameless either !!)
conservatives care mostly about me ,myself ,and i ; guns ; and the pursuit of wealth for them and others of acceptable ethnic persuasion
liberals believe "that all men are created equal , that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness "
it is my observation from more than 6 decades living that republicans used to lead the entire nation in that last line (quoted). they wore that like a badge of honor and rightly so ! (i was a reagan guy)
but i witnessed a dramatic change in their attitude after november 4th 2008
A handful of Florida Republican candidates will host a rally in Tallahassee calling for Gov. Ron DeSantis and others to put pressure on authorities to free the “political prisoners” of Jan. 6.
The “Free Our Patriots Rally in Tally” will be held Saturday, July 10, hosted by Luis Miguel, a far-right Republican candidate looking to primary Sen. Marco Rubio per the Orlando Weekly.
Florida has the most traitors charged in the 1/6 insurrection than any other state.
A handful of Florida Republican candidates will host a rally in Tallahassee calling for Gov. Ron DeSantis and others to put pressure on authorities to free the “political prisoners” of Jan. 6.
The “Free Our Patriots Rally in Tally” will be held Saturday, July 10, hosted by Luis Miguel, a far-right Republican candidate looking to primary Sen. Marco Rubio per the Orlando Weekly.
Florida has the most traitors charged in the 1/6 insurrection than any other state.
Several Repub Governors are now blocking State colleges from requiring vaccinations for their students.....
What?
How F@cking Dumb!
They're the HIGHEST risk group.....AND
They are at an age where they are most likely to engage in Virus spreading behavior!
I was a college head soccer coach for 14 years, I've spent my time on modern campuses...
I'm just saying, yes, it's still one man's opinion, but on this subject I offer an informed opinion.
Do Repubs really care about actual leadership?
At the state level I believe there are a few good ones, but not many.
I think Mike DeWine (Ohio) and Larry Hogan (Maryland) are half-decent govs. Are they on the list of govs that are blocking colleges from requiring vaccines? I don't know, but would be mildly surprised if they were.
The Dems try much harder, but a few have trouble hanging on to the football
Quote Originally Posted by dutchsoccercool:
Several Repub Governors are now blocking State colleges from requiring vaccinations for their students.....
What?
How F@cking Dumb!
They're the HIGHEST risk group.....AND
They are at an age where they are most likely to engage in Virus spreading behavior!
I was a college head soccer coach for 14 years, I've spent my time on modern campuses...
I'm just saying, yes, it's still one man's opinion, but on this subject I offer an informed opinion.
Do Repubs really care about actual leadership?
At the state level I believe there are a few good ones, but not many.
I think Mike DeWine (Ohio) and Larry Hogan (Maryland) are half-decent govs. Are they on the list of govs that are blocking colleges from requiring vaccines? I don't know, but would be mildly surprised if they were.
The Dems try much harder, but a few have trouble hanging on to the football
I do not think there should be required vaccs for a public institution I think it goes too far. The issue for me is that we are forcing people to put something in their body that they might not choose to and that in my opinion has negative impacts. I think these vaccs were rushed and not properly tested and will end up harming this generation PLUS I do not think it is a cure or a solution. It would be a better idea to give people the choice of in person vs remote, plus as you vaccers already foolishly think, if you get the vacc you are fine and you can live your life as if this never happened so who cares?
To me even taking the vacc you are no more safe against a variant and mutation than someone who does not have it and someone who does not have the vacc is no more a spreader to a mutation than someone who has it.
This is a bad idea...
I do not think there should be required vaccs for a public institution I think it goes too far. The issue for me is that we are forcing people to put something in their body that they might not choose to and that in my opinion has negative impacts. I think these vaccs were rushed and not properly tested and will end up harming this generation PLUS I do not think it is a cure or a solution. It would be a better idea to give people the choice of in person vs remote, plus as you vaccers already foolishly think, if you get the vacc you are fine and you can live your life as if this never happened so who cares?
To me even taking the vacc you are no more safe against a variant and mutation than someone who does not have it and someone who does not have the vacc is no more a spreader to a mutation than someone who has it.
It seems that rather than call the other side dumbasses and morons, the real issue here is whether Biden can or will compel vaccinations. That will be the real leadership dilemma. Rather than attacking the fringe “trumplickers” who we all know r idiots, the focus should be on the intelligent component of the anti vaxers who look at it as a freedom issue or r concerned bout the safety. From my perspective, while I hate to admit it I don’t see a way around reqd vaccinations as was done w Polio and other vaccines. Biden has certainly balked at compelling it up to this point and may not have a choice but I pray for the worlds sake that he is able to bring us together to resolve it
It seems that rather than call the other side dumbasses and morons, the real issue here is whether Biden can or will compel vaccinations. That will be the real leadership dilemma. Rather than attacking the fringe “trumplickers” who we all know r idiots, the focus should be on the intelligent component of the anti vaxers who look at it as a freedom issue or r concerned bout the safety. From my perspective, while I hate to admit it I don’t see a way around reqd vaccinations as was done w Polio and other vaccines. Biden has certainly balked at compelling it up to this point and may not have a choice but I pray for the worlds sake that he is able to bring us together to resolve it
Don’t know bout transmission, but the latest #s I’ve seen are that of the recent hospitalizations/deaths in this country bout 97% r not vaccinated so don’t see how it can be argued that some1 w the vaccine is not safer against the virus
Don’t know bout transmission, but the latest #s I’ve seen are that of the recent hospitalizations/deaths in this country bout 97% r not vaccinated so don’t see how it can be argued that some1 w the vaccine is not safer against the virus
I do not think there should be required vaccs for a public institution I think it goes too far. The issue for me is that we are forcing people to put something in their body that they might not choose to and that in my opinion has negative impacts. I think these vaccs were rushed and not properly tested and will end up harming this generation PLUS I do not think it is a cure or a solution. It would be a better idea to give people the choice of in person vs remote, plus as you vaccers already foolishly think, if you get the vacc you are fine and you can live your life as if this never happened so who cares? To me even taking the vacc you are no more safe against a variant and mutation than someone who does not have it and someone who does not have the vacc is no more a spreader to a mutation than someone who has it. This is a bad idea...
Wow. I 100% agree with you. Good post
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
I do not think there should be required vaccs for a public institution I think it goes too far. The issue for me is that we are forcing people to put something in their body that they might not choose to and that in my opinion has negative impacts. I think these vaccs were rushed and not properly tested and will end up harming this generation PLUS I do not think it is a cure or a solution. It would be a better idea to give people the choice of in person vs remote, plus as you vaccers already foolishly think, if you get the vacc you are fine and you can live your life as if this never happened so who cares? To me even taking the vacc you are no more safe against a variant and mutation than someone who does not have it and someone who does not have the vacc is no more a spreader to a mutation than someone who has it. This is a bad idea...
I do not think there should be required vaccs for a public institution . I think these vaccs were rushed and not properly tested and will end up harming this generation PLUS I do not think it is a cure or a solution. To me even taking the vacc you are no more safe against a variant and mutation than someone who does not have it and someone who does not have the vacc is no more a spreader ...
Vaccination is a way to end pandemic and return to a more normal life. Unfortunately, proof of vaccination is legal and necessary for colleges and air travel in many countries.
Safety of covi d vaccines are the most monitored in history. No shortcuts taken despite fast development. FDA and European drug agency require completion of all clinical trials before approving safety and effectiveness. VAERS database reports only over 5200 adverse events out of over 300 million vaccine doses administered in the US. But getting virus while unvaccinated is riskier. Over 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations.
Vaccination reduces covi d deaths and hospitalizations by 67% to 99%. Now 99% of covi d patients are unvaccinated. Much of the world can only watch lucky US with envy.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
I do not think there should be required vaccs for a public institution . I think these vaccs were rushed and not properly tested and will end up harming this generation PLUS I do not think it is a cure or a solution. To me even taking the vacc you are no more safe against a variant and mutation than someone who does not have it and someone who does not have the vacc is no more a spreader ...
Vaccination is a way to end pandemic and return to a more normal life. Unfortunately, proof of vaccination is legal and necessary for colleges and air travel in many countries.
Safety of covi d vaccines are the most monitored in history. No shortcuts taken despite fast development. FDA and European drug agency require completion of all clinical trials before approving safety and effectiveness. VAERS database reports only over 5200 adverse events out of over 300 million vaccine doses administered in the US. But getting virus while unvaccinated is riskier. Over 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations.
Vaccination reduces covi d deaths and hospitalizations by 67% to 99%. Now 99% of covi d patients are unvaccinated. Much of the world can only watch lucky US with envy.
I think those are some fair and cogent points of view to my thread...I sincerely thank all of you who responded with varying points of view. Again, before I respond...my sincere thanks!
I admit that I was a both premature and immature for calling them dumbasses. My reason for doing so, is that at this point it appears to me to e obvious that the vaccine has helped in a very large measure.
I also agree that there are some Repub governors and Senators who have stood up for masks, vaccines, etc...
Again. I step back and apologise for coming out so strongly....
That said...
Repubs are now marching with signs that read: My body, my choice...in response to Biden's push for vaccinations.
Where was this sentiment when abortion rights have been debated....honestly, I'm not being sarcastic when I say that's hypocritical. (I welcome a response to this particular point)
A separate point that feels just as hypocritical: I recall that a couple of years ago there was a big case where a conservative bakery refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple that was getting married.
Now businesses (including airlines, cruise ships, etc...) are saying that they will refuse you if you are not vaccinated...Repubs are balking..
Again, I want honest and open discussion, and I'm not being sarcastic...but seriously, I would honestly welcome a Repub or a Libertarian to square this...It seems like wanting tit both ways to me.
Again, I thank you all...and I welcome all intelligent discussion.
Thanks!!!
I think those are some fair and cogent points of view to my thread...I sincerely thank all of you who responded with varying points of view. Again, before I respond...my sincere thanks!
I admit that I was a both premature and immature for calling them dumbasses. My reason for doing so, is that at this point it appears to me to e obvious that the vaccine has helped in a very large measure.
I also agree that there are some Repub governors and Senators who have stood up for masks, vaccines, etc...
Again. I step back and apologise for coming out so strongly....
That said...
Repubs are now marching with signs that read: My body, my choice...in response to Biden's push for vaccinations.
Where was this sentiment when abortion rights have been debated....honestly, I'm not being sarcastic when I say that's hypocritical. (I welcome a response to this particular point)
A separate point that feels just as hypocritical: I recall that a couple of years ago there was a big case where a conservative bakery refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple that was getting married.
Now businesses (including airlines, cruise ships, etc...) are saying that they will refuse you if you are not vaccinated...Repubs are balking..
Again, I want honest and open discussion, and I'm not being sarcastic...but seriously, I would honestly welcome a Repub or a Libertarian to square this...It seems like wanting tit both ways to me.
Again, I thank you all...and I welcome all intelligent discussion.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: I do not think there should be required vaccs for a public institution . I think these vaccs were rushed and not properly tested and will end up harming this generation PLUS I do not think it is a cure or a solution. To me even taking the vacc you are no more safe against a variant and mutation than someone who does not have it and someone who does not have the vacc is no more a spreader ... Vaccination is a way to end pandemic and return to a more normal life. Unfortunately, proof of vaccination is legal and necessary for colleges and air travel in many countries. Safety of covi d vaccines are the most monitored in history. No shortcuts taken despite fast development. FDA and European drug agency require completion of all clinical trials before approving safety and effectiveness. VAERS database reports only over 5200 adverse events out of over 300 million vaccine doses administered in the US. But getting virus while unvaccinated is riskier. Over 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations. Vaccination reduces covi d deaths and hospitalizations by 67% to 99%. Now 99% of covi d patients are unvaccinated. Much of the world can only watch lucky US with envy.
wow. i 100% agree with u. very good post !
i also agree with wallstreetcappers suggestion that post secondary institutions should offer the option for remote learning if choosing not to b vaccinated . seems like a very fair compromise and a win win
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: I do not think there should be required vaccs for a public institution . I think these vaccs were rushed and not properly tested and will end up harming this generation PLUS I do not think it is a cure or a solution. To me even taking the vacc you are no more safe against a variant and mutation than someone who does not have it and someone who does not have the vacc is no more a spreader ... Vaccination is a way to end pandemic and return to a more normal life. Unfortunately, proof of vaccination is legal and necessary for colleges and air travel in many countries. Safety of covi d vaccines are the most monitored in history. No shortcuts taken despite fast development. FDA and European drug agency require completion of all clinical trials before approving safety and effectiveness. VAERS database reports only over 5200 adverse events out of over 300 million vaccine doses administered in the US. But getting virus while unvaccinated is riskier. Over 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations. Vaccination reduces covi d deaths and hospitalizations by 67% to 99%. Now 99% of covi d patients are unvaccinated. Much of the world can only watch lucky US with envy.
wow. i 100% agree with u. very good post !
i also agree with wallstreetcappers suggestion that post secondary institutions should offer the option for remote learning if choosing not to b vaccinated . seems like a very fair compromise and a win win
Rather than attacking the fringe “trumplickers” who we all know r idiots, the focus should be on the intelligent component of the anti vaxers who look at it as a freedom issue or r concerned bout the safety. From my perspective, while I hate to admit it I don’t see a way around reqd vaccinations as was done w Polio and other vaccines. Biden has certainly balked at compelling it up to this point and may not have a choice but I pray for the worlds sake that he is able to bring us together to resolve it
Good point. However, reasonable options need to be offered which still keep the effect of protecting the public. Not an easy task. Total lockdows for 3 weeks would probably end it all, but that is not feasible. Same for 100% vaccination. There are enough people in the country who refuse vaccinations that we will have covid and their even deadlier mutations for a VERY LONG TIME.
Quote Originally Posted by shiek:
Rather than attacking the fringe “trumplickers” who we all know r idiots, the focus should be on the intelligent component of the anti vaxers who look at it as a freedom issue or r concerned bout the safety. From my perspective, while I hate to admit it I don’t see a way around reqd vaccinations as was done w Polio and other vaccines. Biden has certainly balked at compelling it up to this point and may not have a choice but I pray for the worlds sake that he is able to bring us together to resolve it
Good point. However, reasonable options need to be offered which still keep the effect of protecting the public. Not an easy task. Total lockdows for 3 weeks would probably end it all, but that is not feasible. Same for 100% vaccination. There are enough people in the country who refuse vaccinations that we will have covid and their even deadlier mutations for a VERY LONG TIME.
Vaccination is a way to end pandemic and return to a more normal life.
Unfortunately, proof of vaccination is legal and necessary for colleges and air travel in many countries.
Safety of covi d vaccines are the most monitored in history. No shortcuts taken despite fast development. FDA and European drug agency require completion of all clinical trials before approving safety and effectiveness. VAERS database reports only over 5200 adverse events out of over 300 million vaccine doses administered in the US. But getting virus while unvaccinated is riskier. Over 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations.
Vaccination reduces covid deaths and hospitalizations by 67% to 99%. Now 99% of covi d patients are unvaccinated. Much of the world can only watch lucky US with envy.
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Vaccination is a way to end pandemic and return to a more normal life.
Unfortunately, proof of vaccination is legal and necessary for colleges and air travel in many countries.
Safety of covi d vaccines are the most monitored in history. No shortcuts taken despite fast development. FDA and European drug agency require completion of all clinical trials before approving safety and effectiveness. VAERS database reports only over 5200 adverse events out of over 300 million vaccine doses administered in the US. But getting virus while unvaccinated is riskier. Over 600,000 deaths and millions of hospitalizations.
Vaccination reduces covid deaths and hospitalizations by 67% to 99%. Now 99% of covi d patients are unvaccinated. Much of the world can only watch lucky US with envy.
Repubs are now marching with signs that read: My body, my choice...in response to Biden's push for vaccinations.
Where was this sentiment when abortion rights have been debated....honestly, I'm not being sarcastic when I say that's hypocritical. (I welcome a response to this particular point)
A separate point that feels just as hypocritical: I recall that a couple of years ago there was a big case where a conservative bakery refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple that was getting married.
Now businesses (including airlines, cruise ships, etc...) are saying that they will refuse you if you are not vaccinated...Repubs are balking..
'my body my choice' as it specifically applies to vaccinations does have a righteous point
but the problem specifically with infectious diseases today and looking forward to the future is your choice could affect other peoples bodies in a negative way and so the community should retain the right to protect them members of the community from the many potential typhoid marys who assert their right to b infected then spread the diseasse as they choose
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Quote Originally Posted by dutchsoccercool:
Repubs are now marching with signs that read: My body, my choice...in response to Biden's push for vaccinations.
Where was this sentiment when abortion rights have been debated....honestly, I'm not being sarcastic when I say that's hypocritical. (I welcome a response to this particular point)
A separate point that feels just as hypocritical: I recall that a couple of years ago there was a big case where a conservative bakery refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple that was getting married.
Now businesses (including airlines, cruise ships, etc...) are saying that they will refuse you if you are not vaccinated...Repubs are balking..
'my body my choice' as it specifically applies to vaccinations does have a righteous point
but the problem specifically with infectious diseases today and looking forward to the future is your choice could affect other peoples bodies in a negative way and so the community should retain the right to protect them members of the community from the many potential typhoid marys who assert their right to b infected then spread the diseasse as they choose
You cant say that people who have chosen not to vacc are "typhoid marys" no more than those who have taken it are incapable of getting it again, OR are going to get a variant OR are going to bring a tax on the system in the future. You cant say any of those things.
You cant say that people who have chosen not to vacc are "typhoid marys" no more than those who have taken it are incapable of getting it again, OR are going to get a variant OR are going to bring a tax on the system in the future. You cant say any of those things.
You cant say that people who have chosen not to vacc are "typhoid marys" no more than those who have taken it are incapable of getting it again, OR are going to get a variant OR are going to bring a tax on the system in the future. You cant say any of those things.
You are absolute correct.
Since obviously no one is a "typhoid mary" if they are NOT actually infected.
But once any person, vaccinated or not, becomes infected, then they are"carriers" of an infectious disease (ie, a reference to the infamous "Typhoid Mary" that KellyM made earlier)
It's just that vaccination is proven to VASTLY reduce the chances of becoming infected in the first place -- though as has been noted by several here before, vaccination is NOT 100% effective.
As for hospital burden, well like seatbelts (or not) when people engage in risky behaviors, such as do things that INCREASE the risk of catching covid, and therefore increasing the risk of spreading the disease, then it follows logically that this increases the RISK of eventual burden on our health system (ie, hospitals) much like going without seatbelts has been proven.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
You cant say that people who have chosen not to vacc are "typhoid marys" no more than those who have taken it are incapable of getting it again, OR are going to get a variant OR are going to bring a tax on the system in the future. You cant say any of those things.
You are absolute correct.
Since obviously no one is a "typhoid mary" if they are NOT actually infected.
But once any person, vaccinated or not, becomes infected, then they are"carriers" of an infectious disease (ie, a reference to the infamous "Typhoid Mary" that KellyM made earlier)
It's just that vaccination is proven to VASTLY reduce the chances of becoming infected in the first place -- though as has been noted by several here before, vaccination is NOT 100% effective.
As for hospital burden, well like seatbelts (or not) when people engage in risky behaviors, such as do things that INCREASE the risk of catching covid, and therefore increasing the risk of spreading the disease, then it follows logically that this increases the RISK of eventual burden on our health system (ie, hospitals) much like going without seatbelts has been proven.
So you guys think there will be no impact of a mRNA therapy in the future? I do not share that view..I think much like or WORSE than chicken pox vacc the long term impacts of this are both unknown and likely very serious. This is new and unproven and unknown, we dont know what happens when new therapies are used because there is no history. There are already known issues with several of these like lung issues, heart issues etc and this is only a year into its use. And there are examples of relapse even after being injected and people have died after being injected. I do not believe how the initial stats from several of these therapies went from marginal benefit to a high percentage like we did. Moderna was not an instant high percentage therapy and JNJ wasnt either. I do not believe what these companies stated and the speed to which they moved through trials.
So you guys think there will be no impact of a mRNA therapy in the future? I do not share that view..I think much like or WORSE than chicken pox vacc the long term impacts of this are both unknown and likely very serious. This is new and unproven and unknown, we dont know what happens when new therapies are used because there is no history. There are already known issues with several of these like lung issues, heart issues etc and this is only a year into its use. And there are examples of relapse even after being injected and people have died after being injected. I do not believe how the initial stats from several of these therapies went from marginal benefit to a high percentage like we did. Moderna was not an instant high percentage therapy and JNJ wasnt either. I do not believe what these companies stated and the speed to which they moved through trials.
So you guys think there will be no impact of a mRNA therapy in the future? ..I think the long term impacts are unknown and very serious. This is new and unproven and unknown, we dont know what happens when new therapies are used because there is no history. There are already known issues with several of these like lung issues, heart issues etc and this is only a year into its use.
Medical and scientific community is confident in the long term safety of mRNA covid vaccines. Decades of studying mRNA vaccines have shown no long term side effects. For examples, cancer, flu. zika, rabies, etc. Children hospital of Philadelphia found no long term negative effects for several reasons.
First, most negative effects occur within 6 weeks of receiving vaccine. Secondly, the mRNA breaks down quickly. Third, mRNA stops making protein within a week. Rare blood clots and heart issues are mild, temporary and easily treated. Besides, vaccine safety is constantly monitored by Food drug administration, Center for disease control and World health organization. Doctor Fauci predicts covid vaccines will get full FDA approval.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
So you guys think there will be no impact of a mRNA therapy in the future? ..I think the long term impacts are unknown and very serious. This is new and unproven and unknown, we dont know what happens when new therapies are used because there is no history. There are already known issues with several of these like lung issues, heart issues etc and this is only a year into its use.
Medical and scientific community is confident in the long term safety of mRNA covid vaccines. Decades of studying mRNA vaccines have shown no long term side effects. For examples, cancer, flu. zika, rabies, etc. Children hospital of Philadelphia found no long term negative effects for several reasons.
First, most negative effects occur within 6 weeks of receiving vaccine. Secondly, the mRNA breaks down quickly. Third, mRNA stops making protein within a week. Rare blood clots and heart issues are mild, temporary and easily treated. Besides, vaccine safety is constantly monitored by Food drug administration, Center for disease control and World health organization. Doctor Fauci predicts covid vaccines will get full FDA approval.
Long term study of mRNA vaccines? I was reading up on advancements in mRNA technology for close to a year before covid hit the scene in late 2019. Vaccination wasn't even one of the potential uses i saw proposed the most. And everything was theoretical. Just what long term study are you even talking about? I'm very excited we are seeing the first practical use of mRNA. As I have said many times, mRNA and crispr are the future of medicine but there are no long term studies that I am aware of as this is the first use. Care to post some links to these long term studies?
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Long term study of mRNA vaccines? I was reading up on advancements in mRNA technology for close to a year before covid hit the scene in late 2019. Vaccination wasn't even one of the potential uses i saw proposed the most. And everything was theoretical. Just what long term study are you even talking about? I'm very excited we are seeing the first practical use of mRNA. As I have said many times, mRNA and crispr are the future of medicine but there are no long term studies that I am aware of as this is the first use. Care to post some links to these long term studies?
@thirdperson Long term study of mRNA vaccines? I was reading up on advancements in mRNA technology for close to a year before covid hit the scene in late 2019. Vaccination wasn't even one of the potential uses i saw proposed the most. And everything was theoretical. Just what long term study are you even talking about? I'm very excited we are seeing the first practical use of mRNA. As I have said many times, mRNA and crispr are the future of medicine but there are no long term studies that I am aware of as this is the first use. Care to post some links to these long term studies?
And i'm not saying this in a smart ass way. I'm being sincere. I was deep into this stuff through most of from the winter of 2018 through most of 2019. I was under the impression that there were no therapies in practical use.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
@thirdperson Long term study of mRNA vaccines? I was reading up on advancements in mRNA technology for close to a year before covid hit the scene in late 2019. Vaccination wasn't even one of the potential uses i saw proposed the most. And everything was theoretical. Just what long term study are you even talking about? I'm very excited we are seeing the first practical use of mRNA. As I have said many times, mRNA and crispr are the future of medicine but there are no long term studies that I am aware of as this is the first use. Care to post some links to these long term studies?
And i'm not saying this in a smart ass way. I'm being sincere. I was deep into this stuff through most of from the winter of 2018 through most of 2019. I was under the impression that there were no therapies in practical use.
Tennessee's REPUBLICAN government has fired its top vaccination official
Dr. Michelle Fiscus angered some Republicans when she sent medical providers information TRUTHFULLY explaining the state's legal mechanism for vaccinating minors above the age of 14 without parental consent.
Just as coronavirus cases are more than doubling in Tennessee, the state's GOP health department is now stopping adolescent vaccine outreach, not just for COVID but for *ALL* diseases. The decision comes on the heels of pressure from Republican state lawmakers.
The GOP health department will also stop sending postcards with reminders to teenagers to get a second COVID shot.
Tennessee's REPUBLICAN government has fired its top vaccination official
Dr. Michelle Fiscus angered some Republicans when she sent medical providers information TRUTHFULLY explaining the state's legal mechanism for vaccinating minors above the age of 14 without parental consent.
Just as coronavirus cases are more than doubling in Tennessee, the state's GOP health department is now stopping adolescent vaccine outreach, not just for COVID but for *ALL* diseases. The decision comes on the heels of pressure from Republican state lawmakers.
The GOP health department will also stop sending postcards with reminders to teenagers to get a second COVID shot.
Medical and scientific community is confident in the long term safety of mRNA covid vaccines. Decades of studying mRNA vaccines have shown no long term side effects. For examples, cancer, flu. zika, rabies, etc. Children hospital of Philadelphia found no long term negative effects for several reasons.
First, most negative effects occur within 6 weeks of receiving vaccine. Secondly, the mRNA breaks down quickly. Third, mRNA stops making protein within a week. Rare blood clots and heart issues are mild, temporary and easily treated. Besides, vaccine safety is constantly monitored by Food drug administration, Center for disease control and World health organization. Doctor Fauci predicts covid vaccines will get full FDA approval.
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Medical and scientific community is confident in the long term safety of mRNA covid vaccines. Decades of studying mRNA vaccines have shown no long term side effects. For examples, cancer, flu. zika, rabies, etc. Children hospital of Philadelphia found no long term negative effects for several reasons.
First, most negative effects occur within 6 weeks of receiving vaccine. Secondly, the mRNA breaks down quickly. Third, mRNA stops making protein within a week. Rare blood clots and heart issues are mild, temporary and easily treated. Besides, vaccine safety is constantly monitored by Food drug administration, Center for disease control and World health organization. Doctor Fauci predicts covid vaccines will get full FDA approval.
Recently, Florida has the highest covid death rate and second highest cases per capita according to Washingtonpost covid tracker. To deflect blame, governor DeSantis promotes campaign merchandises mocking doctor Fauci the most trusted medical advisor in US history. Trump supporters want to fire Fauci for following science instead of politics. Demonizing experts is a political tactic from Hitler's demagogue playbook.
Recently, Florida has the highest covid death rate and second highest cases per capita according to Washingtonpost covid tracker. To deflect blame, governor DeSantis promotes campaign merchandises mocking doctor Fauci the most trusted medical advisor in US history. Trump supporters want to fire Fauci for following science instead of politics. Demonizing experts is a political tactic from Hitler's demagogue playbook.
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