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    Midnight1
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 3:55 PM ET #26

    The prosecutor is absolutely shaken from the admonishments from the judge. He is losing the jurors with his repetitive questions.

    Having said that, this kid killed someone & needs to be held accountable IMO.

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    The prosecutor is absolutely shaken from the admonishments from the judge. He is losing the jurors with his repetitive questions.

    Having said that, this kid killed someone & needs to be held accountable IMO.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 3:59 PM ET #27

    He put at least 1 pedophile out of his misery in self defense. I was hoping for some fireworks during the afternoon session. 

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    He put at least 1 pedophile out of his misery in self defense. I was hoping for some fireworks during the afternoon session. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 4:05 PM ET #28

    @Midnight1

      Yep, he lost the jury an hour ago. Even the judge is telling him to move it along. He's just poking/prodding the kid, amplifying minutia, trying to get him to snap......but the kid is unflappable.

     I could see some recklessness charge, but the idiot PA hasn't proven any intent. He is just trying to save face at this point.

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    @Midnight1

      Yep, he lost the jury an hour ago. Even the judge is telling him to move it along. He's just poking/prodding the kid, amplifying minutia, trying to get him to snap......but the kid is unflappable.

     I could see some recklessness charge, but the idiot PA hasn't proven any intent. He is just trying to save face at this point.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 4:39 PM ET #29

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     I'm amazed how technically inept these lawyers are. They are even worse in the Ahmed Arbury trial.

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    @THEMUGG

     I'm amazed how technically inept these lawyers are. They are even worse in the Ahmed Arbury trial.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 5:01 PM ET #30

    In 2018, Judge Schroder sentenced a woman convicted of shoplifting to inform managers of every store she entered that she was on supervision for theft. 

    He seems to be a little unorthodox which isn't necessarily bad.

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    In 2018, Judge Schroder sentenced a woman convicted of shoplifting to inform managers of every store she entered that she was on supervision for theft. 

    He seems to be a little unorthodox which isn't necessarily bad.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 5:10 PM ET #31

     I can't believe the defense isn't objecting to the DA trying to put words in his mouth.

     Geez......the DA is flailing at this point. an_getaway

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     I can't believe the defense isn't objecting to the DA trying to put words in his mouth.

     Geez......the DA is flailing at this point. an_getaway

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 5:23 PM ET #32

    The 3 victims at the hands of Kyle Rittenhouse.

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    The 3 victims at the hands of Kyle Rittenhouse.

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 5:38 PM ET #33

     The DA is finally done......someone wake up the jury. an_roll_laugh

     

     His frame-by-frame stoppage of each incident was pathetic.........just a futile effort to discredit Rittenhouse. I don't know what the defense atty. was thinking, but the judge actually told the DA he was speculating.

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     The DA is finally done......someone wake up the jury. an_roll_laugh

     

     His frame-by-frame stoppage of each incident was pathetic.........just a futile effort to discredit Rittenhouse. I don't know what the defense atty. was thinking, but the judge actually told the DA he was speculating.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 5:39 PM ET #34

    Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction. 

    You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes. 

    You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No"

    "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No. 

    We all know why this idiot was really there. an_light

    As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least. an_light

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    Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction. 

    You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes. 

    You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No"

    "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No. 

    We all know why this idiot was really there. an_light

    As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least. an_light

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 5:49 PM ET #35

    Love the Medic defense.

    Because most medics and professional EMTs are strapped with AR 15's.

    Pretty sure that is not the standard for a medical kit these days. an_light

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    Love the Medic defense.

    Because most medics and professional EMTs are strapped with AR 15's.

    Pretty sure that is not the standard for a medical kit these days. an_light

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 5:50 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction.  You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes.  You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No" "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No.  We all know why this idiot was really there.  As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least.

    Another example of why I don't talk about politics with my 2-3 liberal friends! You are watching something much different than me! Impossible to legitimately and honestly get a unanimous decision.

    Free Kyle! Stat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction.  You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes.  You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No" "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No.  We all know why this idiot was really there.  As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least.

    Another example of why I don't talk about politics with my 2-3 liberal friends! You are watching something much different than me! Impossible to legitimately and honestly get a unanimous decision.

    Free Kyle! Stat!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 5:55 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction.  You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes.  You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No" "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No.  We all know why this idiot was really there.  As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least. Another example of why I don't talk about politics with my 2-3 liberal friends! You are watching something much different than me! Impossible to legitimately and honestly get a unanimous decision. Free Kyle! Stat!

    Sundance,

    Who are these 2-3 fictional liberal friends you speak of?

    I promise, they do not really exist.

    You live a in a fantasy world alone. an_light

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction.  You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes.  You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No" "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No.  We all know why this idiot was really there.  As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least. Another example of why I don't talk about politics with my 2-3 liberal friends! You are watching something much different than me! Impossible to legitimately and honestly get a unanimous decision. Free Kyle! Stat!

    Sundance,

    Who are these 2-3 fictional liberal friends you speak of?

    I promise, they do not really exist.

    You live a in a fantasy world alone. an_light

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 5:59 PM ET #38

    He brought the medic bag to help others if necessary. But that turned out to be be bullshit because he didn't provide any aid to those he shot. He gave some gauge to a guy who cut his finger & that was all.

    He should have left the AR 15 at home. But why even make the trip if you think a gun was needed for your protection?

    I don't buy it. He was looking for trouble & boy did he find it.

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    He brought the medic bag to help others if necessary. But that turned out to be be bullshit because he didn't provide any aid to those he shot. He gave some gauge to a guy who cut his finger & that was all.

    He should have left the AR 15 at home. But why even make the trip if you think a gun was needed for your protection?

    I don't buy it. He was looking for trouble & boy did he find it.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 6:01 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction.  You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes.  You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No" "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No.  We all know why this idiot was really there.  As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least. Another example of why I don't talk about politics with my 2-3 liberal friends! You are watching something much different than me! Impossible to legitimately and honestly get a unanimous decision. Free Kyle! Stat! Sundance, Who are these 2-3 fictional liberal friends you speak of? I promise, they do not really exist. You live a in a fantasy world alone.

    Trust me. They exist! I am with them during the summer playing golf and actually go on 3 golf trips with them.  I catch a break from them during bowling season. They talk just like you! bigsmile

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction.  You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes.  You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No" "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No.  We all know why this idiot was really there.  As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least. Another example of why I don't talk about politics with my 2-3 liberal friends! You are watching something much different than me! Impossible to legitimately and honestly get a unanimous decision. Free Kyle! Stat! Sundance, Who are these 2-3 fictional liberal friends you speak of? I promise, they do not really exist. You live a in a fantasy world alone.

    Trust me. They exist! I am with them during the summer playing golf and actually go on 3 golf trips with them.  I catch a break from them during bowling season. They talk just like you! bigsmile

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 6:01 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    He brought the medic bag to help others if necessary. But that turned out to be be bullshit because he didn't provide any aid to those he shot. He gave some gauge to a guy who cut his finger & that was all. He should have left the AR 15 at home. But why even make the trip if you think a gun was needed for your protection? I don't buy it. He was looking for trouble & boy did he find it.

    BINGO Midnight. Why the defense even let this idiot take the stand is beyond me. I'm sure glad they did. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    He brought the medic bag to help others if necessary. But that turned out to be be bullshit because he didn't provide any aid to those he shot. He gave some gauge to a guy who cut his finger & that was all. He should have left the AR 15 at home. But why even make the trip if you think a gun was needed for your protection? I don't buy it. He was looking for trouble & boy did he find it.

    BINGO Midnight. Why the defense even let this idiot take the stand is beyond me. I'm sure glad they did. an_light

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 6:03 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction.  You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes.  You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No" "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No.  We all know why this idiot was really there.  As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least. Another example of why I don't talk about politics with my 2-3 liberal friends! You are watching something much different than me! Impossible to legitimately and honestly get a unanimous decision. Free Kyle! Stat! Sundance, Who are these 2-3 fictional liberal friends you speak of? I promise, they do not really exist. You live a in a fantasy world alone. Trust me. They exist! I am with them during the summer playing golf and actually go on 3 golf trips with them.  I catch a break from them during bowling season. They talk just like you!

    Oh yeah you are someone I totally trust. an_roll_laugh

    So is it actually 2 or 3 of them? 

    Sounds like Rittenhouse jabber to me. an_light

    Good times Sundance. an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction.  You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes.  You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No" "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No.  We all know why this idiot was really there.  As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least. Another example of why I don't talk about politics with my 2-3 liberal friends! You are watching something much different than me! Impossible to legitimately and honestly get a unanimous decision. Free Kyle! Stat! Sundance, Who are these 2-3 fictional liberal friends you speak of? I promise, they do not really exist. You live a in a fantasy world alone. Trust me. They exist! I am with them during the summer playing golf and actually go on 3 golf trips with them.  I catch a break from them during bowling season. They talk just like you!

    Oh yeah you are someone I totally trust. an_roll_laugh

    So is it actually 2 or 3 of them? 

    Sounds like Rittenhouse jabber to me. an_light

    Good times Sundance. an_cheers

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction.  You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes.  You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No" "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No.  We all know why this idiot was really there.  As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least. Another example of why I don't talk about politics with my 2-3 liberal friends! You are watching something much different than me! Impossible to legitimately and honestly get a unanimous decision. Free Kyle! Stat! Sundance, Who are these 2-3 fictional liberal friends you speak of? I promise, they do not really exist. You live a in a fantasy world alone. Trust me. They exist! I am with them during the summer playing golf and actually go on 3 golf trips with them.  I catch a break from them during bowling season. They talk just like you! Oh yeah you are someone I totally trust.  So is it actually 2 or 3 of them?  Sounds like Rittenhouse jabber to me.  Good times Sundance.

    an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Rittenhouse is done. This will be a glorious conviction.  You told this media member interviewing you that you were EMT. Are you an EMT? no. So you lied about being an EMT? Yes.  You claimed you were on the scene to provide medical assistance and first aid to any of those that may be injured on the scene. Did you give anyone at all medical assistance? "No" "I was there to provide medical assistance". Did you offer medical assistance to any one that you shot? No. Even one of those you shot in the arm, that was screaming that I need a medic. Did you offer to help him? No.  We all know why this idiot was really there.  As bad is the prosecution is, they saved the best for last at least. Another example of why I don't talk about politics with my 2-3 liberal friends! You are watching something much different than me! Impossible to legitimately and honestly get a unanimous decision. Free Kyle! Stat! Sundance, Who are these 2-3 fictional liberal friends you speak of? I promise, they do not really exist. You live a in a fantasy world alone. Trust me. They exist! I am with them during the summer playing golf and actually go on 3 golf trips with them.  I catch a break from them during bowling season. They talk just like you! Oh yeah you are someone I totally trust.  So is it actually 2 or 3 of them?  Sounds like Rittenhouse jabber to me.  Good times Sundance.

    an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2021 - 7:09 PM ET #43

    The prosecutor has done such a poor job I think the defense attorneys know they’ll get a hung jury even if Kyle bombed (he didn’t) 

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    The prosecutor has done such a poor job I think the defense attorneys know they’ll get a hung jury even if Kyle bombed (he didn’t) 

     
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     This kid shouldn't walk. He killed 2 people. Believe it or not, there are still consequences for one's actions.

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    @I_Need_A_Detox

     This kid shouldn't walk. He killed 2 people. Believe it or not, there are still consequences for one's actions.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @I_Need_A_Detox  This kid shouldn't walk. He killed 2 people. Believe it or not, there are still consequences for one's actions.
    Well, the three people that attacked him certainly found that out. an_light

     The DA failed to prove motive or intent.......or disprove self-defense....... & put the jury to sleep along the way, not to mention pissing off the judge. He also put any chance of a possible re-trial in jeopardy with his antics. Rittenhouse will likely get nailed for the weapons charge but found not guilty of all the "first degree" charges other than maybe the reckless endangering. But the juries are like referees........never know what you're gonna get.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @I_Need_A_Detox  This kid shouldn't walk. He killed 2 people. Believe it or not, there are still consequences for one's actions.
    Well, the three people that attacked him certainly found that out. an_light

     The DA failed to prove motive or intent.......or disprove self-defense....... & put the jury to sleep along the way, not to mention pissing off the judge. He also put any chance of a possible re-trial in jeopardy with his antics. Rittenhouse will likely get nailed for the weapons charge but found not guilty of all the "first degree" charges other than maybe the reckless endangering. But the juries are like referees........never know what you're gonna get.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2021 - 6:43 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @I_Need_A_Detox  This kid shouldn't walk. He killed 2 people. Believe it or not, there are still consequences for one's actions.

    When a mob is attacking you, you have the right to self-defense in America. 

    If you don’t agree maybe this isn’t the right country for you. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @I_Need_A_Detox  This kid shouldn't walk. He killed 2 people. Believe it or not, there are still consequences for one's actions.

    When a mob is attacking you, you have the right to self-defense in America. 

    If you don’t agree maybe this isn’t the right country for you. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2021 - 7:00 AM ET #47

    Tulsi Gabbard: 

    “The prosecutor in the Rittenhouse trial clearly didn’t do due diligence before making the decision to prosecute. This tragedy never would have happened if the government carried out its responsibilities to protect the safety, lives and property of innocent people.” 

    https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard/status/1458585633111244800?s=21

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    Tulsi Gabbard: 

    “The prosecutor in the Rittenhouse trial clearly didn’t do due diligence before making the decision to prosecute. This tragedy never would have happened if the government carried out its responsibilities to protect the safety, lives and property of innocent people.” 

    https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard/status/1458585633111244800?s=21

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2021 - 7:45 AM ET #48

    Democrat Hakeem Jeffries: 

    “Lock up Kyle Rittenhouse and throw away the key.” 

    What happened to the whole thing about criminal justice reform, prison abolition, the evils of the carceral state, the inherent pro-prosecution bias, rehabilitative justice?

    It all instantly disappears based if the accused has the wrong ideology. Then it's: law and order!

    I also don't believe the people saying this have watched much or any of the trial. They're instead demanding an 18 year old be imprisoned for life because they know their political followers want to hear that or they're looking for positive social media attention. 

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    Democrat Hakeem Jeffries: 

    “Lock up Kyle Rittenhouse and throw away the key.” 

    What happened to the whole thing about criminal justice reform, prison abolition, the evils of the carceral state, the inherent pro-prosecution bias, rehabilitative justice?

    It all instantly disappears based if the accused has the wrong ideology. Then it's: law and order!

    I also don't believe the people saying this have watched much or any of the trial. They're instead demanding an 18 year old be imprisoned for life because they know their political followers want to hear that or they're looking for positive social media attention. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2021 - 8:01 AM ET #49

    American liberalism: 

    Hakeem Jeffries 6.29.20 

    “End. Mass. Incarceration.

    Defund the Prison Industrial Complex.” 

    Hakeem Jeffries 11.10.21 

    “Lock up Rittenhouse and throw away the key.” 

    The crime they want punished is rejection of liberalism. an_light

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    American liberalism: 

    Hakeem Jeffries 6.29.20 

    “End. Mass. Incarceration.

    Defund the Prison Industrial Complex.” 

    Hakeem Jeffries 11.10.21 

    “Lock up Rittenhouse and throw away the key.” 

    The crime they want punished is rejection of liberalism. an_light

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2021 - 9:08 AM ET #50

    From Tucker.

    'A rapist called Joseph Rosenbaum was released from a mental hospital and then went directly to join the mob that was burning downtown Kenosha.

    Rosenbaum died as he had lived, trying to touch an unwilling minor.'

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    From Tucker.

    'A rapist called Joseph Rosenbaum was released from a mental hospital and then went directly to join the mob that was burning downtown Kenosha.

    Rosenbaum died as he had lived, trying to touch an unwilling minor.'

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