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    kristie Noem has been let go

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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2026 - 3:02 PM ET #1

    Trump states she gone by end of March and has Nominated Myllin of Oklahoma as her replacement 

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    Trump states she gone by end of March and has Nominated Myllin of Oklahoma as her replacement 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2026 - 3:04 PM ET #2

    Sen. Markwayne Mullin, Oklahoma's junior senator, has been named the secretary of Homeland Security, replacing Kristi Noem.

     

    Mullin, a Republican and ally of President Donald Trump, will take the position on March 31, according to Trump on Truth Social. Trump announced that Noem will be moving from her position as secretary to a role with the "Special Envoy for the Shields of Americas," a new security initiative in the Western Hemispher

    make sure she has her blanket on the way out or you never hear the end of it....e.

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    Sen. Markwayne Mullin, Oklahoma's junior senator, has been named the secretary of Homeland Security, replacing Kristi Noem.

     

    Mullin, a Republican and ally of President Donald Trump, will take the position on March 31, according to Trump on Truth Social. Trump announced that Noem will be moving from her position as secretary to a role with the "Special Envoy for the Shields of Americas," a new security initiative in the Western Hemispher

    make sure she has her blanket on the way out or you never hear the end of it....e.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2026 - 4:29 PM ET #3

    So will Cory Lewandowski now be fetching Markwaynes forgotten blankets? I look forward to a new face lapping Trump nutz at the cabinet meeting, Markwayne is a professional lapper who could easily hold his own with the best the North Korea cabinet provided he add a Hun or Gol to his last name! …..There were talking about a cabinet were your daily existence depends on grade A ass Kissing!

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    So will Cory Lewandowski now be fetching Markwaynes forgotten blankets? I look forward to a new face lapping Trump nutz at the cabinet meeting, Markwayne is a professional lapper who could easily hold his own with the best the North Korea cabinet provided he add a Hun or Gol to his last name! …..There were talking about a cabinet were your daily existence depends on grade A ass Kissing!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2026 - 5:43 PM ET #4

    Are you sure she was let go? The ultra conservative extremist website ZH who is on news within MINUTES of things happening have not mentioned that the contract queen was let go so since that is pretty high level news it means that she must not have been. ZH is nails with political information especially if the news is about dirt on liberals.

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    Are you sure she was let go? The ultra conservative extremist website ZH who is on news within MINUTES of things happening have not mentioned that the contract queen was let go so since that is pretty high level news it means that she must not have been. ZH is nails with political information especially if the news is about dirt on liberals.

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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2026 - 5:55 PM ET #5

    no demoted she is now a special envoy but she isn't a cabinet level pay grad... special person there cause Trump kept the mix after firing him 10 times she now a second or third tier to him but not out the door, of course she has to let go the big beautiful jet but being special for a non agency is a golden parachute for her 

    I don't even think dakotas would allow her to be the governor again 

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    no demoted she is now a special envoy but she isn't a cabinet level pay grad... special person there cause Trump kept the mix after firing him 10 times she now a second or third tier to him but not out the door, of course she has to let go the big beautiful jet but being special for a non agency is a golden parachute for her 

    I don't even think dakotas would allow her to be the governor again 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 12:24 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    So will Cory Lewandowski now be fetching Markwaynes forgotten blankets? I look forward to a new face lapping Trump nutz at the cabinet meeting, Markwayne is a professional lapper who could easily hold his own with the best the North Korea cabinet provided he add a Hun or Gol to his last name! …..There were talking about a cabinet were your daily existence depends on grade A ass Kissing!

    The Daily Show had a good bit about Noem/Lewandowski’s purchase of a personal f###plane on the taxpayer’s dime. 

    I think Dementia Don is corrupt enough to let her continue to use it and abuse taxpayer dollars. As Desi Lydic put it so eloquently, “How do they justify continuing to use taxpayer money for their Bangbus in the sky?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    So will Cory Lewandowski now be fetching Markwaynes forgotten blankets? I look forward to a new face lapping Trump nutz at the cabinet meeting, Markwayne is a professional lapper who could easily hold his own with the best the North Korea cabinet provided he add a Hun or Gol to his last name! …..There were talking about a cabinet were your daily existence depends on grade A ass Kissing!

    The Daily Show had a good bit about Noem/Lewandowski’s purchase of a personal f###plane on the taxpayer’s dime. 

    I think Dementia Don is corrupt enough to let her continue to use it and abuse taxpayer dollars. As Desi Lydic put it so eloquently, “How do they justify continuing to use taxpayer money for their Bangbus in the sky?”

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 6:54 AM ET #7

    Both Noem and her replacement Mullins are unqualified for the job of homeland security secretary.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in executive appointments.  Polls show most Americans disapprove of Trump administration handling of immigration.

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    Both Noem and her replacement Mullins are unqualified for the job of homeland security secretary.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in executive appointments.  Polls show most Americans disapprove of Trump administration handling of immigration.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 8:49 AM ET #8

    @nature1970

     I can assure you the position dog pound attendant would not be in the mix either!

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     I can assure you the position dog pound attendant would not be in the mix either!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 12:35 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Both Noem and her replacement Mullins are unqualified for the job of homeland security secretary.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in executive appointments.  Polls show most Americans disapprove of Trump administration handling of immigration.
    But Mayorkas was? an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

     Polls show most Americans approve of Trump's efforts on illegal immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Both Noem and her replacement Mullins are unqualified for the job of homeland security secretary.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in executive appointments.  Polls show most Americans disapprove of Trump administration handling of immigration.
    But Mayorkas was? an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     

     Polls show most Americans approve of Trump's efforts on illegal immigration.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 12:52 PM ET #10

    @THEMUGG

     Did Mayorkas spend hundreds of millions on a self forwarding PR scheme and did Mayorkas funnel hundreds of millions in contract golden doors to inside pals?

    Deflection for sure is your go-to that someone else is worse than the partisan butt in the seat you prefer.

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     Did Mayorkas spend hundreds of millions on a self forwarding PR scheme and did Mayorkas funnel hundreds of millions in contract golden doors to inside pals?

    Deflection for sure is your go-to that someone else is worse than the partisan butt in the seat you prefer.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 1:00 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Both Noem and her replacement Mullins are unqualified for the job of homeland security secretary.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in executive appointments.  Polls show most Americans disapprove of Trump administration handling of immigration.
    Who would you like to see in this position?

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Both Noem and her replacement Mullins are unqualified for the job of homeland security secretary.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in executive appointments.  Polls show most Americans disapprove of Trump administration handling of immigration.
    Who would you like to see in this position?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 4:33 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Both Noem and her replacement Mullins are unqualified for the job of homeland security secretary.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in executive appointments.  Polls show most Americans disapprove of Trump administration handling of immigration.Who would you like to see in this position?

    Whoever is going to let FEMA money flow to disaster victims, not lie about normal citizens being domestic terrorists, and will work to eliminate Noem’s illegal self-dealing that resulted in waste, fraud, and abuse. So probably no one in this administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Both Noem and her replacement Mullins are unqualified for the job of homeland security secretary.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in executive appointments.  Polls show most Americans disapprove of Trump administration handling of immigration.Who would you like to see in this position?

    Whoever is going to let FEMA money flow to disaster victims, not lie about normal citizens being domestic terrorists, and will work to eliminate Noem’s illegal self-dealing that resulted in waste, fraud, and abuse. So probably no one in this administration.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 5:40 PM ET #13

    I heard Krusty is keeping firm lips, chin, cheeks, forehead & neck through all this. 

    Ya gotta believe Sir Eats Alot saw/reviewed/approved all those commercials where Krusty was mounted on a horse. Melania was asked to do these commercials but she has refused to mount anything in years. 

     

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    I heard Krusty is keeping firm lips, chin, cheeks, forehead & neck through all this. 

    Ya gotta believe Sir Eats Alot saw/reviewed/approved all those commercials where Krusty was mounted on a horse. Melania was asked to do these commercials but she has refused to mount anything in years. 

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 6:38 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  Did Mayorkas spend hundreds of millions on a self forwarding PR scheme and did Mayorkas funnel hundreds of millions in contract golden doors to inside pals? Deflection for sure is your go-to that someone else is worse than the partisan butt in the seat you prefer.
    Did she allow millions upon millions of illegal aliens to cross our border? Did she get a shitload of those deported? Talk about deflection.... an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  Did Mayorkas spend hundreds of millions on a self forwarding PR scheme and did Mayorkas funnel hundreds of millions in contract golden doors to inside pals? Deflection for sure is your go-to that someone else is worse than the partisan butt in the seat you prefer.
    Did she allow millions upon millions of illegal aliens to cross our border? Did she get a shitload of those deported? Talk about deflection.... an_light

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 8:15 PM ET #15

    Would have been funny if ICE came and detained her and took her to her new job location

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    Would have been funny if ICE came and detained her and took her to her new job location

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 8:18 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Both Noem and her replacement Mullins are unqualified for the job of homeland security secretary.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in executive appointments.  Polls show most Americans disapprove of Trump administration handling of immigration.Who would you like to see in this position? Whoever is going to let FEMA money flow to disaster victims, not lie about normal citizens being domestic terrorists, and will work to eliminate Noem’s illegal self-dealing that resulted in waste, fraud, and abuse. So probably no one in this administration.
    In general though, who do you or third think would be a good candidate? Not just a Trump appointed member, but anyone? If you had an ideal candidate, who would that be?

     

    I have no idea either, but just asking to see what others think.....it's not an easy job for sure, just not sure who is qualified that is out there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Both Noem and her replacement Mullins are unqualified for the job of homeland security secretary.  In a corrupt organization, loyalty matters more than competence.  Survey of historians rank Trump as the worst president in executive appointments.  Polls show most Americans disapprove of Trump administration handling of immigration.Who would you like to see in this position? Whoever is going to let FEMA money flow to disaster victims, not lie about normal citizens being domestic terrorists, and will work to eliminate Noem’s illegal self-dealing that resulted in waste, fraud, and abuse. So probably no one in this administration.
    In general though, who do you or third think would be a good candidate? Not just a Trump appointed member, but anyone? If you had an ideal candidate, who would that be?

     

    I have no idea either, but just asking to see what others think.....it's not an easy job for sure, just not sure who is qualified that is out there....

     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2026 - 9:16 PM ET #17

    Denzel Washington 

     

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    Denzel Washington 

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2026 - 12:54 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Did she allow millions upon millions of illegal aliens to cross our border? Did she get a shitload of those deported? .

    Noem makes Mayorkas look competent in comparison.  She is the most corrupt and incompetent homeland security secretary in US history.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Did she allow millions upon millions of illegal aliens to cross our border? Did she get a shitload of those deported? .

    Noem makes Mayorkas look competent in comparison.  She is the most corrupt and incompetent homeland security secretary in US history.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Did she allow millions upon millions of illegal aliens to cross our border? Did she get a shitload of those deported? . Noem makes Mayorkas look competent in comparison.  She is the most corrupt and incompetent homeland security secretary in US history.
    Mayorkas couldn't perform the most important function of the job. He is the most corrupt & incompetent DHS sec. ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Did she allow millions upon millions of illegal aliens to cross our border? Did she get a shitload of those deported? . Noem makes Mayorkas look competent in comparison.  She is the most corrupt and incompetent homeland security secretary in US history.
    Mayorkas couldn't perform the most important function of the job. He is the most corrupt & incompetent DHS sec. ever.

     
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    Unlike Noem, Mayorkas was never accused of corruption or any crime other than carrying out immigration policies that republicans oppose.  Most constitutional law experts agreed with Senate decision to quickly dismiss illegal impeachment charges against Mayorkas.  Pews research found that record remover-in-chief Biden was not at fault for natural surge in immigration which started before he became president and ended before leaving office.  

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    Unlike Noem, Mayorkas was never accused of corruption or any crime other than carrying out immigration policies that republicans oppose.  Most constitutional law experts agreed with Senate decision to quickly dismiss illegal impeachment charges against Mayorkas.  Pews research found that record remover-in-chief Biden was not at fault for natural surge in immigration which started before he became president and ended before leaving office.  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2026 - 4:41 PM ET #22

    @THEMUGG

     No he did not allow illegals to cross that is a TNC narrative you guys use to validate your narrative and you exaggerate what the numbers ARE/WERE and even worse you take that and exaggerate impacts. Nothing like blaming the brown guy for all the ills in society, white privilege as a political objective works for you and the TNC.

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    @THEMUGG

     No he did not allow illegals to cross that is a TNC narrative you guys use to validate your narrative and you exaggerate what the numbers ARE/WERE and even worse you take that and exaggerate impacts. Nothing like blaming the brown guy for all the ills in society, white privilege as a political objective works for you and the TNC.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2026 - 5:51 PM ET #23

    an_roll_laughThis stuff is all open source material. 

    Bottom line:

    • At least 2–2.5 million people were temporarily released into the U.S. during Biden’s presidency after being caught crossing illegally or under temporary parole programs.


    So, that is easy enough to verify.  
    Then you can verify that Biden had well over 10M encounters at the border.

    He was averaging 4-6 times more encounters than Trump had been averaging a year.  
    This was all due to the policies and the encouragement of the ‘welcome mat’ at the border.  
    Then they were encouraging the illegals to use the app because they were overwhelmed.  
    Even though Biden said he was going to ‘surge’ help to the border. 

    So, if you just assume the same ‘escape rate’ as previous administrations— then by definition they were ‘allowing’ 4-6 times more illegals to also escape into the country.  
    This also does not even take into account the shifting priorities and funds away from the border.  

    Not even the unreasonable Leftist Media denies what was going on.  Just as they have to admit it all got halted by Trump. 

    It did not require ‘any new laws’ to be passed by Congress; it just required a new President.  
    peace_5

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    an_roll_laughThis stuff is all open source material. 

    Bottom line:

    • At least 2–2.5 million people were temporarily released into the U.S. during Biden’s presidency after being caught crossing illegally or under temporary parole programs.


    So, that is easy enough to verify.  
    Then you can verify that Biden had well over 10M encounters at the border.

    He was averaging 4-6 times more encounters than Trump had been averaging a year.  
    This was all due to the policies and the encouragement of the ‘welcome mat’ at the border.  
    Then they were encouraging the illegals to use the app because they were overwhelmed.  
    Even though Biden said he was going to ‘surge’ help to the border. 

    So, if you just assume the same ‘escape rate’ as previous administrations— then by definition they were ‘allowing’ 4-6 times more illegals to also escape into the country.  
    This also does not even take into account the shifting priorities and funds away from the border.  

    Not even the unreasonable Leftist Media denies what was going on.  Just as they have to admit it all got halted by Trump. 

    It did not require ‘any new laws’ to be passed by Congress; it just required a new President.  
    peace_5

     
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    @Raiders22

     You SHOULD know that the validity of "figures" is borderline insane, all of what you posted could be found with a different result based on the source of the information. How can you count how many people have come in at any time frame, the border is not a NY subway where heads are counted and that any figure is in the universe of reality. I could say that under Trump the number of illegals is 10x more than Biden because some source told me or that my neighbor lives on the border and he told me. 

    You can shape whatever narrative you WANT to and you shade the illegals are bad, Biden bad and Trump good narrative. I do not shape that at all rather I say the conclusion you made is as far fetched as Mexico paying for the wall or that Hatians were eating cats and dogs or that Iraq had WMDs or that just this week Iran was super close to having weapons that can reach the US.

    What matters more than some figure YOU found or that I make up is impacts. I care more about crime and harm than skin color or location, I would rather get rid of ALL people committing crimes not that they came from Mexico or SA so they MUST be the cause of the woes of my life.

    So was the other guy selling contracts to his pals or spending hundreds of millions on glam shot PR garbage?

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    @Raiders22

     You SHOULD know that the validity of "figures" is borderline insane, all of what you posted could be found with a different result based on the source of the information. How can you count how many people have come in at any time frame, the border is not a NY subway where heads are counted and that any figure is in the universe of reality. I could say that under Trump the number of illegals is 10x more than Biden because some source told me or that my neighbor lives on the border and he told me. 

    You can shape whatever narrative you WANT to and you shade the illegals are bad, Biden bad and Trump good narrative. I do not shape that at all rather I say the conclusion you made is as far fetched as Mexico paying for the wall or that Hatians were eating cats and dogs or that Iraq had WMDs or that just this week Iran was super close to having weapons that can reach the US.

    What matters more than some figure YOU found or that I make up is impacts. I care more about crime and harm than skin color or location, I would rather get rid of ALL people committing crimes not that they came from Mexico or SA so they MUST be the cause of the woes of my life.

    So was the other guy selling contracts to his pals or spending hundreds of millions on glam shot PR garbage?

     
     
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     Yes, they acknowledge and couch it like that about the escapees it is not as simple.  They have to use the estimation theory in a way.peace_5

    Of course, they have their inherent leftist's biases in their analysis and answer.

    But even they have to admit the numbers were much, much higher under Biden and that the reasons were from the administration.

    Of course, the hard numbers that are tracked, like the encounters, are actually tracked pretty efficiently.

    So, no, the conclusion is not far-fetched at all.  The verifiable numbers indicate that and the presumed ratio of escapees indicate it as well.

    That part is not 'shaping a narrative'.  That is simply the facts.

    peace_5

    Now, the narrative would be shaped as illegals are bad and that the more let in freely the worse it is.

    But that narrative is substantially backed up with plenty of evidence.  So, yes, Biden was bad on this front and Trump has been good on it but has room for improvement.

    an_light

    You cannot simply state, "No he did not allow illegals to cross".  Then when that is proved wrong by multiple independent sources and the Biden administration's own numbers, then try to sidestep it.

    You cannot then say, "What matters more than some figure YOU found or that I make up is impacts".

    You have to first just admit you were wrong and that they did allow illegals in -- and at record numbers.

    You can form your narrative about impacts without lying about what happened or when proved wrong about it dismissing facts.

    If your narrative is you think there should be open borders for anyone that can get in legally, or illegally, that is fine.  You can just not ignore facts to back it up.

    There are many valid reasons to think that anyone should come in.  Many of these folks legitimately come from a very tough life and it is natural to feel sympathy for them.  Some are escaping a very rough existence.  

    But some are escaping a criminal existence at home and trying to further their criminal existence in the new land they escaped to.

     

    "I care more about crime and harm than skin color or location, I would rather get rid of ALL people committing crimes"

    This is a start.  But if you really cared that much about criminals you would be for better vetting of illegals at least.

    "Getting rid of All" can be done.  But it should be done differently for citizens and illegals.  You cannot 'deport' a citizen.

    No reasonable person is against legal immigration that ia benefit to the country.

    But when people say they do not care about illegals but they do care about criminal illegals it is very hard to consolidate the logic.  Because by clear process one tends to directly increase the other.

    So, handing it after the fact is the wrong approach to stopping it.  It should be prevented in the first place.

    If you only allow non-criminals in you do not have that problem to start with.

    peace_5

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     Yes, they acknowledge and couch it like that about the escapees it is not as simple.  They have to use the estimation theory in a way.peace_5

    Of course, they have their inherent leftist's biases in their analysis and answer.

    But even they have to admit the numbers were much, much higher under Biden and that the reasons were from the administration.

    Of course, the hard numbers that are tracked, like the encounters, are actually tracked pretty efficiently.

    So, no, the conclusion is not far-fetched at all.  The verifiable numbers indicate that and the presumed ratio of escapees indicate it as well.

    That part is not 'shaping a narrative'.  That is simply the facts.

    peace_5

    Now, the narrative would be shaped as illegals are bad and that the more let in freely the worse it is.

    But that narrative is substantially backed up with plenty of evidence.  So, yes, Biden was bad on this front and Trump has been good on it but has room for improvement.

    an_light

    You cannot simply state, "No he did not allow illegals to cross".  Then when that is proved wrong by multiple independent sources and the Biden administration's own numbers, then try to sidestep it.

    You cannot then say, "What matters more than some figure YOU found or that I make up is impacts".

    You have to first just admit you were wrong and that they did allow illegals in -- and at record numbers.

    You can form your narrative about impacts without lying about what happened or when proved wrong about it dismissing facts.

    If your narrative is you think there should be open borders for anyone that can get in legally, or illegally, that is fine.  You can just not ignore facts to back it up.

    There are many valid reasons to think that anyone should come in.  Many of these folks legitimately come from a very tough life and it is natural to feel sympathy for them.  Some are escaping a very rough existence.  

    But some are escaping a criminal existence at home and trying to further their criminal existence in the new land they escaped to.

     

    "I care more about crime and harm than skin color or location, I would rather get rid of ALL people committing crimes"

    This is a start.  But if you really cared that much about criminals you would be for better vetting of illegals at least.

    "Getting rid of All" can be done.  But it should be done differently for citizens and illegals.  You cannot 'deport' a citizen.

    No reasonable person is against legal immigration that ia benefit to the country.

    But when people say they do not care about illegals but they do care about criminal illegals it is very hard to consolidate the logic.  Because by clear process one tends to directly increase the other.

    So, handing it after the fact is the wrong approach to stopping it.  It should be prevented in the first place.

    If you only allow non-criminals in you do not have that problem to start with.

    peace_5

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