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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: May. 10, 2022 - 9:29 PM ET #151

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    It was worse than we thought

     

    Covid-19's real death toll may be
    nearly 3 times higher than reported,
    WHO data suggests

    .

    wtf ?!   confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    It was worse than we thought

     

    Covid-19's real death toll may be
    nearly 3 times higher than reported,
    WHO data suggests

    .

    wtf ?!   confused

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: May. 11, 2022 - 8:27 AM ET #152

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    It was worse than we thought

    Covid-19's real death toll may be
    nearly 3 times higher than reported,
    WHO data suggests

     

     

    wtf ?!   confused

    Not very encouraging news

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    It was worse than we thought

    Covid-19's real death toll may be
    nearly 3 times higher than reported,
    WHO data suggests

     

     

    wtf ?!   confused

    Not very encouraging news

     
    baish2012
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    Posted: May. 14, 2022 - 10:48 PM ET #153

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: It was worse than we thought Covid-19's real death toll may benearly 3 times higher than reported,WHO data suggests    

     

    wtf ?! confused 

     

    Not very encouraging news

    Had to do a double take on that one too but the data is supported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: It was worse than we thought Covid-19's real death toll may benearly 3 times higher than reported,WHO data suggests    

     

    wtf ?! confused 

     

    Not very encouraging news

    Had to do a double take on that one too but the data is supported.

     
    DrStrangelove
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    Posted: May. 14, 2022 - 11:23 PM ET #154

    I don't know if it was mentioned in this thread. I saw a news piece, I believe it was on 60 Minutes, where a reporter interviewed many of the coroners and funeral home workers in New York City. One funeral home worker said that his average pick up a night was one to two dead bodies. He said in a matter of a week he went from picking up 2 dead people a day to 20 then 30, then 40. It got to the point they had to put them in refrigerated trucks. Keep in mind this was when the covid first hit and right after Trump got on tv and called it all a hoax. My point is they had so many bodies to process at one time that most of these early covid deaths were never reported as covid. So yeah, there's many more deaths out there that has been reported. Especially in highly populated cities like  NYC, Philly, Chicago where people live on top each other and many multi-generational families live under one roof. 

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    I don't know if it was mentioned in this thread. I saw a news piece, I believe it was on 60 Minutes, where a reporter interviewed many of the coroners and funeral home workers in New York City. One funeral home worker said that his average pick up a night was one to two dead bodies. He said in a matter of a week he went from picking up 2 dead people a day to 20 then 30, then 40. It got to the point they had to put them in refrigerated trucks. Keep in mind this was when the covid first hit and right after Trump got on tv and called it all a hoax. My point is they had so many bodies to process at one time that most of these early covid deaths were never reported as covid. So yeah, there's many more deaths out there that has been reported. Especially in highly populated cities like  NYC, Philly, Chicago where people live on top each other and many multi-generational families live under one roof. 

     
    Zeus4par
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    Posted: May. 18, 2022 - 5:33 PM ET #155

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    I don't know if it was mentioned in this thread. I saw a news piece, I believe it was on 60 Minutes, where a reporter interviewed many of the coroners and funeral home workers in New York City. One funeral home worker said that his average pick up a night was one to two dead bodies. He said in a matter of a week he went from picking up 2 dead people a day to 20 then 30, then 40. It got to the point they had to put them in refrigerated trucks. Keep in mind this was when the covid first hit and right after Trump got on tv and called it all a hoax. My point is they had so many bodies to process at one time that most of these early covid deaths were never reported as covid. So yeah, there's many more deaths out there that has been reported. Especially in highly populated cities like  NYC, Philly, Chicago where people live on top each other and many multi-generational families live under one roof.

    Prevailing view among medical experts in the field is that covid cases are under counted.

    There are no medical experts here on covers but I am sure some will voice their "expert" assessment to the contrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    I don't know if it was mentioned in this thread. I saw a news piece, I believe it was on 60 Minutes, where a reporter interviewed many of the coroners and funeral home workers in New York City. One funeral home worker said that his average pick up a night was one to two dead bodies. He said in a matter of a week he went from picking up 2 dead people a day to 20 then 30, then 40. It got to the point they had to put them in refrigerated trucks. Keep in mind this was when the covid first hit and right after Trump got on tv and called it all a hoax. My point is they had so many bodies to process at one time that most of these early covid deaths were never reported as covid. So yeah, there's many more deaths out there that has been reported. Especially in highly populated cities like  NYC, Philly, Chicago where people live on top each other and many multi-generational families live under one roof.

    Prevailing view among medical experts in the field is that covid cases are under counted.

    There are no medical experts here on covers but I am sure some will voice their "expert" assessment to the contrary.

     
    baish2012
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    Posted: May. 23, 2022 - 7:44 AM ET #156

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: I don't know if it was mentioned in this thread. I saw a news piece, I believe it was on 60 Minutes, where a reporter interviewed many of the coroners and funeral home workers in New York City. One funeral home worker said that his average pick up a night was one to two dead bodies. He said in a matter of a week he went from picking up 2 dead people a day to 20 then 30, then 40. It got to the point they had to put them in refrigerated trucks. Keep in mind this was when the covid first hit and right after Trump got on tv and called it all a hoax. My point is they had so many bodies to process at one time that most of these early covid deaths were never reported as covid. So yeah, there's many more deaths out there that has been reported. Especially in highly populated cities like  NYC, Philly, Chicago where people live on top each other and many multi-generational families live under one roof.

    Prevailing view among medical experts in the field is that covid cases are under counted. There are no medical experts here on covers but I am sure some will voice their "expert" assessment to the contrary.

    There are opposing views by experts as well but the majority seem to favor that the cases are under counted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: I don't know if it was mentioned in this thread. I saw a news piece, I believe it was on 60 Minutes, where a reporter interviewed many of the coroners and funeral home workers in New York City. One funeral home worker said that his average pick up a night was one to two dead bodies. He said in a matter of a week he went from picking up 2 dead people a day to 20 then 30, then 40. It got to the point they had to put them in refrigerated trucks. Keep in mind this was when the covid first hit and right after Trump got on tv and called it all a hoax. My point is they had so many bodies to process at one time that most of these early covid deaths were never reported as covid. So yeah, there's many more deaths out there that has been reported. Especially in highly populated cities like  NYC, Philly, Chicago where people live on top each other and many multi-generational families live under one roof.

    Prevailing view among medical experts in the field is that covid cases are under counted. There are no medical experts here on covers but I am sure some will voice their "expert" assessment to the contrary.

    There are opposing views by experts as well but the majority seem to favor that the cases are under counted.

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2022 - 10:59 PM ET #157

    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him  an_roll_laugh

     

    BUSINESS INSIDER -

    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.

    •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration.

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    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him  an_roll_laugh

     

    BUSINESS INSIDER -

    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.

    •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration.

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2022 - 11:32 PM ET #158

    WHO works for China. They are discredited in many areas around the world. If you died in a hospital, to the hospital received more money. So of course the person died of COVID. Even if he died with a heart attack.

     

    Some people believe everything negative they read about Trump. Just like the Russian collision, the Quid pro quo and a host of other fabrications. Need I mention Avenatti and the madam who were the darlings of CNN and  MSNBC. The FBI lies, Vindeman and Schumer lies.

     

    Just because someone writes a story and says they have it from an unnamed source, does not mean it's true. That's called TDS.. 

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    WHO works for China. They are discredited in many areas around the world. If you died in a hospital, to the hospital received more money. So of course the person died of COVID. Even if he died with a heart attack.

     

    Some people believe everything negative they read about Trump. Just like the Russian collision, the Quid pro quo and a host of other fabrications. Need I mention Avenatti and the madam who were the darlings of CNN and  MSNBC. The FBI lies, Vindeman and Schumer lies.

     

    Just because someone writes a story and says they have it from an unnamed source, does not mean it's true. That's called TDS.. 

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: May. 25, 2022 - 11:39 PM ET #159

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him  an_roll_laugh

      BUSINESS INSIDER -

    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.

                 an_laugh   clueless donnie chump

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him  an_roll_laugh

      BUSINESS INSIDER -

    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.

                 an_laugh   clueless donnie chump

     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2022 - 1:41 PM ET #160

    Where is Third ???  

    I need some fact checking done, don't want to step on his toes....

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Where is Third ???  

    I need some fact checking done, don't want to step on his toes....

     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2022 - 1:59 PM ET #161

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him   

    BUSINESS INSIDER -

    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.           

         an_laugh   clueless donnie chump

     

    According to his former ambassador, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him   

    BUSINESS INSIDER -

    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.           

         an_laugh   clueless donnie chump

     

    According to his former ambassador, yes.

     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2022 - 2:28 PM ET #162

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him    BUSINESS INSIDER - •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said. •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.

     

    •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration.

     

    This is big, because it goes to some of the root causes for that war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him    BUSINESS INSIDER - •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said. •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.

     

    •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration.

     

    This is big, because it goes to some of the root causes for that war.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2022 - 7:24 PM ET #163

    @baish2012

     How does this explain some of root causes for war?  
    You make a statement like that but now you won’t be able to explain the reasons behind statement.  Why?  

    if it is fact, then there should be easy explanation   

     

     

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @baish2012

     How does this explain some of root causes for war?  
    You make a statement like that but now you won’t be able to explain the reasons behind statement.  Why?  

    if it is fact, then there should be easy explanation   

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2022 - 7:32 PM ET #164

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him   

    BUSINESS INSIDER -

    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.

    •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration.

    Hill is laying out many key facts very well

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him   

    BUSINESS INSIDER -

    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.

    •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration.

    Hill is laying out many key facts very well

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him  an_roll_laugh

     

     

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    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.

    •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration. 

    One of the reasons Putin invaded Ukraine with President Joe Biden in the White House was that he expected the US to "sue for peace" and thought it would be better to deal with Biden than trying to negotiate with someone like Trump, whom the Russian leader had "to explain everything to all the time," Hill, who served as the top Russia advisor on the National Security Council under Trump, said.

    "He thought that somebody like Biden — who's a transatlanticist, who knows all about NATO, who actually knows where Ukraine is, and actually knows something about the history,  and is very steeped in international affairs — would be the right person to engage with," Hill said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him  an_roll_laugh

     

     

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    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said.

    •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration. 

    One of the reasons Putin invaded Ukraine with President Joe Biden in the White House was that he expected the US to "sue for peace" and thought it would be better to deal with Biden than trying to negotiate with someone like Trump, whom the Russian leader had "to explain everything to all the time," Hill, who served as the top Russia advisor on the National Security Council under Trump, said.

    "He thought that somebody like Biden — who's a transatlanticist, who knows all about NATO, who actually knows where Ukraine is, and actually knows something about the history,  and is very steeped in international affairs — would be the right person to engage with," Hill said.

     
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    trump's former ambassador continued:

    "You could see that he got frustrated many times with
    President Trump because he had to keep explaining things,
    and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said, adding:
    "Even though he loves to be able to spin his own version
    of events, he wants to have predictability in the person
    that he's engaging with."

    A number of Trump's former advisors have said the ex-president
    had a very poor grasp of global affairs. The former national
    security advisor John Bolton, for example, said Trump
    once asked, seriously, whether Finland was part of Russia.

                                                                           an_roll_laugh

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    trump's former ambassador continued:

    "You could see that he got frustrated many times with
    President Trump because he had to keep explaining things,
    and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said, adding:
    "Even though he loves to be able to spin his own version
    of events, he wants to have predictability in the person
    that he's engaging with."

    A number of Trump's former advisors have said the ex-president
    had a very poor grasp of global affairs. The former national
    security advisor John Bolton, for example, said Trump
    once asked, seriously, whether Finland was part of Russia.

                                                                           an_roll_laugh

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    trump's former ambassador continued: "You could see that he got frustrated many times with President Trump because he had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said, adding: "Even though he loves to be able to spin his own version of events, he wants to have predictability in the person that he's engaging with." A number of Trump's former advisors have said the ex-president had a very poor grasp of global affairs. The former national security advisor John Bolton, for example, said Trump once asked, seriously, whether Finland was part of Russia. an_roll_laugh

    Similarly, Trump's former White House chief of staff Gen. John Kelly also once said Trump "doesn't know any history at all, even some of the basics on the US," says Hill's new book, "There Is Nothing for You Here: Finding Opportunity in the Twenty-First Century," which was published last year.

    In the book, Hill writes that Trump's meager comprehension of international affairs was a "major liability" for US national security.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    trump's former ambassador continued: "You could see that he got frustrated many times with President Trump because he had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said, adding: "Even though he loves to be able to spin his own version of events, he wants to have predictability in the person that he's engaging with." A number of Trump's former advisors have said the ex-president had a very poor grasp of global affairs. The former national security advisor John Bolton, for example, said Trump once asked, seriously, whether Finland was part of Russia. an_roll_laugh

    Similarly, Trump's former White House chief of staff Gen. John Kelly also once said Trump "doesn't know any history at all, even some of the basics on the US," says Hill's new book, "There Is Nothing for You Here: Finding Opportunity in the Twenty-First Century," which was published last year.

    In the book, Hill writes that Trump's meager comprehension of international affairs was a "major liability" for US national security.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him      BUSINESS INSIDER - •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said. •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said. •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration.  One of the reasons Putin invaded Ukraine with President Joe Biden in the White House was that he expected the US to "sue for peace" and thought it would be better to deal with Biden than trying to negotiate with someone like Trump, whom the Russian leader had "to explain everything to all the time," Hill, who served as the top Russia advisor on the National Security Council under Trump, said. "He thought that somebody like Biden — who's a transatlanticist, who knows all about NATO, who actually knows where Ukraine is, and actually knows something about the history,  and is very steeped in international affairs — would be the right person to engage with," Hill said.

    Amazing the difference between Biden and the ignorant previous president.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him      BUSINESS INSIDER - •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said. •  "He had to keep explaining things, and Putin doesn't like to do that," Hill said. •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration.  One of the reasons Putin invaded Ukraine with President Joe Biden in the White House was that he expected the US to "sue for peace" and thought it would be better to deal with Biden than trying to negotiate with someone like Trump, whom the Russian leader had "to explain everything to all the time," Hill, who served as the top Russia advisor on the National Security Council under Trump, said. "He thought that somebody like Biden — who's a transatlanticist, who knows all about NATO, who actually knows where Ukraine is, and actually knows something about the history,  and is very steeped in international affairs — would be the right person to engage with," Hill said.

    Amazing the difference between Biden and the ignorant previous president.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2022 - 8:12 AM ET #169

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him      BUSINESS INSIDER -

    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration.  One of the reasons Putin invaded Ukraine with President Joe Biden in the White House was that he expected the US to "sue for peace" and thought it would be better to deal with Biden than trying to negotiate with someone like Trump, whom the Russian leader had "to explain everything to all the time," Hill, who served as the top Russia advisor on the National Security Council under Trump, said. "He thought that somebody like Biden — who's a transatlanticist, who knows all about NATO, who actually knows where Ukraine is, and actually knows something about the history,  and is very steeped in international affairs — would be the right person to engage with," Hill said.

    Amazing the difference between Biden and the ignorant previous president.

    but donnie chump keeps telling us he knows everything

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Former ambassador in Trump admin, Fiona Hill, says Putin got 'frustrated many times' with Trump because the Russian leader 'had to keep explaining things' to him      BUSINESS INSIDER -

    •  Putin often became frustrated with Trump over his lack of knowledge on big issues, Fiona Hill said.

    •  Hill said this factored into Putin's decision to invade Ukraine during the Biden administration.  One of the reasons Putin invaded Ukraine with President Joe Biden in the White House was that he expected the US to "sue for peace" and thought it would be better to deal with Biden than trying to negotiate with someone like Trump, whom the Russian leader had "to explain everything to all the time," Hill, who served as the top Russia advisor on the National Security Council under Trump, said. "He thought that somebody like Biden — who's a transatlanticist, who knows all about NATO, who actually knows where Ukraine is, and actually knows something about the history,  and is very steeped in international affairs — would be the right person to engage with," Hill said.

    Amazing the difference between Biden and the ignorant previous president.

    but donnie chump keeps telling us he knows everything

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

      A number of Trump's former advisors have said the ex-president had a very poor grasp of global affairs. The former national security advisor John Bolton, for example, said Trump once asked, seriously, whether Finland was part of Russia.

     

    And yet he claims he "was right about everything"

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

      A number of Trump's former advisors have said the ex-president had a very poor grasp of global affairs. The former national security advisor John Bolton, for example, said Trump once asked, seriously, whether Finland was part of Russia.

     

    And yet he claims he "was right about everything"

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   A number of Trump's former advisors have said the ex-president had a very poor grasp of global affairs. The former national security advisor John Bolton, for example, said Trump once asked, seriously, whether Finland was part of Russia.

      And yet he claims he "was right about everything"

     

    which must b true   becuz he is reported to b the most honest person god ever created in all history

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   A number of Trump's former advisors have said the ex-president had a very poor grasp of global affairs. The former national security advisor John Bolton, for example, said Trump once asked, seriously, whether Finland was part of Russia.

      And yet he claims he "was right about everything"

     

    which must b true   becuz he is reported to b the most honest person god ever created in all history

     
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    The POS was sending out as many as 25 fundraising emails a day, for an ‘Election Defense Fund’ that didn’t exist, to small dollar donors. They raised $250 million dollars, which he then put into his PAC and used none of it on election fraud claims.

    They sent Trump money to fight ‘fraud’ and he stole it.

    Bwhaaaaaaaaa

    an_roll_laugh 

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    The POS was sending out as many as 25 fundraising emails a day, for an ‘Election Defense Fund’ that didn’t exist, to small dollar donors. They raised $250 million dollars, which he then put into his PAC and used none of it on election fraud claims.

    They sent Trump money to fight ‘fraud’ and he stole it.

    Bwhaaaaaaaaa

    an_roll_laugh 

     
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    Retired Republican judge says
    January 6 was 'well-developed plan'
    by Trump to desperately cling to power

    (CNN)
    Retired federal judge J. Michael Luttig,  a Republican
    who is testifying at Thursday's January 6 committee hearing,
    will provide a sharp condemnation of disgraced former President
    Donald Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election,
    saying Trump and his allies "instigated" a war on democracy
    "so that he could cling to power," according to a written statement.

    Luttig outlined in his statement how close democracy came to the brink.
           "It is breathtaking that these arguments even were conceived,
             let alone entertained by the President of the United States
              at that perilous moment in history," Luttig wrote.

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    Retired Republican judge says
    January 6 was 'well-developed plan'
    by Trump to desperately cling to power

    (CNN)
    Retired federal judge J. Michael Luttig,  a Republican
    who is testifying at Thursday's January 6 committee hearing,
    will provide a sharp condemnation of disgraced former President
    Donald Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election,
    saying Trump and his allies "instigated" a war on democracy
    "so that he could cling to power," according to a written statement.

    Luttig outlined in his statement how close democracy came to the brink.
           "It is breathtaking that these arguments even were conceived,
             let alone entertained by the President of the United States
              at that perilous moment in history," Luttig wrote.

     
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    an_police  Pandemic Unemployment Fraud
    made worse by Trump administration
    mishandling of entire pandemic
    Rises to Estimated $45.6 Billion 
     

     

    By Niraj Chokshi, NY TIMES

    A federal watchdog investigating the distribution of pandemic relief funds has tripled its estimate of the amount of money paid out in unemployment insurance that can be attributed to certain forms of fraud.

    The watchdog, the office of the inspector general of the Labor Department, previously attributed about $16 billion to duplicate payments or payments made to dead people, individuals with suspicious email accounts or federal prisoners.

    an_light The office now says the federal government probably made $45.6 billion in such payments!

          “Hundreds of billions in pandemic funds
          attracted fraudsters seeking to exploit the U.I. program
          — resulting in historic levels of fraud,” 
    Larry D. Turner, the inspector general, said in the statement.

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    an_police  Pandemic Unemployment Fraud
    made worse by Trump administration
    mishandling of entire pandemic
    Rises to Estimated $45.6 Billion 
     

     

    By Niraj Chokshi, NY TIMES

    A federal watchdog investigating the distribution of pandemic relief funds has tripled its estimate of the amount of money paid out in unemployment insurance that can be attributed to certain forms of fraud.

    The watchdog, the office of the inspector general of the Labor Department, previously attributed about $16 billion to duplicate payments or payments made to dead people, individuals with suspicious email accounts or federal prisoners.

    an_light The office now says the federal government probably made $45.6 billion in such payments!

          “Hundreds of billions in pandemic funds
          attracted fraudsters seeking to exploit the U.I. program
          — resulting in historic levels of fraud,” 
    Larry D. Turner, the inspector general, said in the statement.

     
     
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    All because of a damn bat or was it the wet market? 

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    @fubah2

    All because of a damn bat or was it the wet market? 

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