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    In 8 years under Trump we will have racked up over 16 trillion in National debt.

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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2026 - 3:20 AM ET #1

    Trump first term accounted for 8.5 trillion in 4 years, his Covid inaction cost the economy dearly. Biden came in to fix Trumps devastation and printed 4 trillion to upgrade the economy again after Trump left companies in decay. Biden printed 4.2 trillion to put people back to work. Infrastructure bill, CHIPS act and he employed 17 million people. Trump came in and destroyed all of the work that Joe Biden did. Now Trump already printed 4 trillion and not counting the war bill which will exceed another 3 trillion by early next year. By the time Trump leaves office, the debt will see 46 trillion……How long before Social Security gets gutted and Medicare gets privatized with the Republicans version of ACA ? Yes sir it’s called BOHICA……BEND OVER HERE IT COMES AGAIN!

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    Trump first term accounted for 8.5 trillion in 4 years, his Covid inaction cost the economy dearly. Biden came in to fix Trumps devastation and printed 4 trillion to upgrade the economy again after Trump left companies in decay. Biden printed 4.2 trillion to put people back to work. Infrastructure bill, CHIPS act and he employed 17 million people. Trump came in and destroyed all of the work that Joe Biden did. Now Trump already printed 4 trillion and not counting the war bill which will exceed another 3 trillion by early next year. By the time Trump leaves office, the debt will see 46 trillion……How long before Social Security gets gutted and Medicare gets privatized with the Republicans version of ACA ? Yes sir it’s called BOHICA……BEND OVER HERE IT COMES AGAIN!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2026 - 7:47 AM ET #2

    @joe pockets  "medicare and social security"

    Social security is expected to be insolvent by 2032 which would require average $500 cut in monthly benefits.  Medicare is increasingly privatized through medicare advantage which costs more for taxpayers and restricts healthcare.  Bipartisan reforms are needed to save social safety net.  Since Trump is unlikely to support increases in income taxes and benefit cuts,  he has every incentive to pass problem to next president to solve.  

     

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    @joe pockets  "medicare and social security"

    Social security is expected to be insolvent by 2032 which would require average $500 cut in monthly benefits.  Medicare is increasingly privatized through medicare advantage which costs more for taxpayers and restricts healthcare.  Bipartisan reforms are needed to save social safety net.  Since Trump is unlikely to support increases in income taxes and benefit cuts,  he has every incentive to pass problem to next president to solve.  

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2026 - 6:54 AM ET #3

    Treasury department reveals that US budget deficit has increased to highest monthly level in over 5 years under Trump administration.  For decades, US budget deficits grow under republican presidents (Reagan, Bush, Bush 2,Trump) and shrink under democrat presidents (Clinton, Obama, Biden).

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    Treasury department reveals that US budget deficit has increased to highest monthly level in over 5 years under Trump administration.  For decades, US budget deficits grow under republican presidents (Reagan, Bush, Bush 2,Trump) and shrink under democrat presidents (Clinton, Obama, Biden).

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2026 - 1:26 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    US Treasury Department reveals

    that US budget deficit has increased to highest monthly level in over 5 years an_burningbag

    under  Trump  BADministration! an_speechless

     

    For decades,

    budget deficits rise under republican presidents an_burningbag(Reagan, Bush, Bush 2,Trump)

    an_light but shrink under Democratic presidents (Clinton, Obama, Biden) an_2drinks

     

    @thirdperson  peace_5 an_clap

     

    Republicants presidents  =  predominantly fiscal failures! an_cannon an_burn_money thumbs_down

    Democratic presidents!  win

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    US Treasury Department reveals

    that US budget deficit has increased to highest monthly level in over 5 years an_burningbag

    under  Trump  BADministration! an_speechless

     

    For decades,

    budget deficits rise under republican presidents an_burningbag(Reagan, Bush, Bush 2,Trump)

    an_light but shrink under Democratic presidents (Clinton, Obama, Biden) an_2drinks

     

    @thirdperson  peace_5 an_clap

     

    Republicants presidents  =  predominantly fiscal failures! an_cannon an_burn_money thumbs_down

    Democratic presidents!  win

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2026 - 1:39 AM ET #5

    magas dont care about the National debt, they just want trump to continue being nasty and attacking people. Thats what they care about in their awful lives.

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    magas dont care about the National debt, they just want trump to continue being nasty and attacking people. Thats what they care about in their awful lives.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2026 - 4:38 AM ET #6

    Tbh it doesn’t matter much ! There is 7-steps almost all Imperial collapses follows - and you have already checked step 5 off and step 6 is brewing (+ step 7 is basically just instant implosion) - as soon as the process has started it is interchangeable and it is a one-way-street 

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Tbh it doesn’t matter much ! There is 7-steps almost all Imperial collapses follows - and you have already checked step 5 off and step 6 is brewing (+ step 7 is basically just instant implosion) - as soon as the process has started it is interchangeable and it is a one-way-street 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2026 - 4:52 AM ET #7

    Not changeable *

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Not changeable *

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2026 - 5:05 AM ET #8

    The main reason you should get rid of Trump is to make sure you have friends left around the world when it happens - because you will need it 

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    The main reason you should get rid of Trump is to make sure you have friends left around the world when it happens - because you will need it 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2026 - 5:13 AM ET #9

    That is also why it won’t help anything if he dies or complete his term and a Democrat comes in - what does that proof to the world ? He needs to be removed and held accountable by your legal institutions - that is the only way you MIGHT have a future as a country 

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    That is also why it won’t help anything if he dies or complete his term and a Democrat comes in - what does that proof to the world ? He needs to be removed and held accountable by your legal institutions - that is the only way you MIGHT have a future as a country 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2026 - 8:26 AM ET #10

    For decades, every republican president left a mess for democrat president to try to clean up.  However every democrat president left US better off economically.  In addition to federal deficit reduction, US economy has higher median household income, GDP rate, Dow Jones index and jobs growth.  From 1989 to 2026, 49.8 million jobs under democrats and 1.9 million jobs under republicans.   

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    For decades, every republican president left a mess for democrat president to try to clean up.  However every democrat president left US better off economically.  In addition to federal deficit reduction, US economy has higher median household income, GDP rate, Dow Jones index and jobs growth.  From 1989 to 2026, 49.8 million jobs under democrats and 1.9 million jobs under republicans.   

     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2026 - 11:28 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    magas dont care about the National debt, they just want trump to continue being nasty and attacking people. Thats what they care about in their awful lives.

     

    This is apparent. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    magas dont care about the National debt, they just want trump to continue being nasty and attacking people. Thats what they care about in their awful lives.

     

    This is apparent. . .

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2026 - 5:51 PM ET #12

    30 years bond yields hit highest rate since 2007.  This threatens to raise mortgage and credit card rates.

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    30 years bond yields hit highest rate since 2007.  This threatens to raise mortgage and credit card rates.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2026 - 9:33 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    30 years bond yields hit highest rate since 2007.  This threatens to raise mortgage and credit card rates.

    YEP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    30 years bond yields hit highest rate since 2007.  This threatens to raise mortgage and credit card rates.

    YEP!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2026 - 10:07 PM ET #14

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    The Countries of Earth are experiencing Sovereign debt crisis so they have to raise rates on Bonds! People are losing faith in their country’s currencies.

    Gold! Bitcoin!

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    @fubah2

    The Countries of Earth are experiencing Sovereign debt crisis so they have to raise rates on Bonds! People are losing faith in their country’s currencies.

    Gold! Bitcoin!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2026 - 8:33 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    30 years bond yields hit highest rate since 2007. 

    This threatens to raise mortgage and credit card rates.

    Not getting better any time soon . . .

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    30 years bond yields hit highest rate since 2007. 

    This threatens to raise mortgage and credit card rates.

    Not getting better any time soon . . .

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2026 - 10:56 AM ET #16

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     That’s sure evident in Russia where they wipe there exhaust pipe with anything but toilet paper! 

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    @FresnoHawk68

     That’s sure evident in Russia where they wipe there exhaust pipe with anything but toilet paper! 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2026 - 4:36 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: 30 years bond yields hit highest rate since 2007.  This threatens to raise mortgage and credit card rates. Not getting better any time soon . . .

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    In 10 days i will be 64, making me more set in my own ways in life, so dont have to be around trump people, including some family members and good friends.  There still my family and friends, now i just stay away from them and just live with the past good memories i had with all of them before they acquired TDS. I wish there was a pill they could all take to get rid of that awful nasty disease they now have lmfaoooooooooooooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: 30 years bond yields hit highest rate since 2007.  This threatens to raise mortgage and credit card rates. Not getting better any time soon . . .

    an_clap

    In 10 days i will be 64, making me more set in my own ways in life, so dont have to be around trump people, including some family members and good friends.  There still my family and friends, now i just stay away from them and just live with the past good memories i had with all of them before they acquired TDS. I wish there was a pill they could all take to get rid of that awful nasty disease they now have lmfaoooooooooooooooo

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2026 - 12:28 PM ET #18

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     peace_5  Like never before ! Our Personal Value differences related to of opinion about everything under the sun “ political, religion, money, etc are more important “ And the people who were able to keep it together have passed away in most cases….In may cases close friends become tighter than family! This is a American thing for the most part!

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     peace_5  Like never before ! Our Personal Value differences related to of opinion about everything under the sun “ political, religion, money, etc are more important “ And the people who were able to keep it together have passed away in most cases….In may cases close friends become tighter than family! This is a American thing for the most part!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @cd329    Like never before ! Our Personal Value differences related to of opinion about everything under the sun “ political, religion, money, etc are more important “ And the people who were able to keep it together have passed away in most cases….In may cases close friends become tighter than family! This is a American thing for the most part!
    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @cd329    Like never before ! Our Personal Value differences related to of opinion about everything under the sun “ political, religion, money, etc are more important “ And the people who were able to keep it together have passed away in most cases….In may cases close friends become tighter than family! This is a American thing for the most part!
    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2026 - 6:35 PM ET #20

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     I would caution giving out ANY personal information in these forums. We have several members who will use and manipulate anything personal you say and there are a few that I would be concerned could take things to a different level. 

    peace_5

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     I would caution giving out ANY personal information in these forums. We have several members who will use and manipulate anything personal you say and there are a few that I would be concerned could take things to a different level. 

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2026 - 8:41 PM ET #21

    When Owebama took office the debt was about $10 trill......when he left it was near 20 trill, almost doubling.....but you don't blame him for anything......& it went up 8.4 trill under Biden. You can spin it any way you want but the debt has just spiraled up under all since 2008.

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    When Owebama took office the debt was about $10 trill......when he left it was near 20 trill, almost doubling.....but you don't blame him for anything......& it went up 8.4 trill under Biden. You can spin it any way you want but the debt has just spiraled up under all since 2008.

     
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     Ok I will bite....

    What "event" happened during the Obama term that might have influenced the deficit?

    an_light

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    @THEMUGG

     Ok I will bite....

    What "event" happened during the Obama term that might have influenced the deficit?

    an_light

     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2026 - 2:36 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: 30 years bond yields hit highest rate since 2007.  This threatens to raise mortgage and credit card rates. Not getting better any time soon . . . In 10 days i will be 64, making me more set in my own ways in life, so dont have to be around trump people, including some family members and good friends.  There still my family and friends, now i just stay away from them and just live with the past good memories i had with all of them before they acquired TDS. I wish there was a pill they could all take to get rid of that awful nasty disease they now have lmfaoooooooooooooooo

     

    @cd329

     Ahh!  You mean like an antidote to the "dumb-it-down-Kool-aid" their entire cult drank.......But how would we get them to take it? For them it would be exactly the same as taking an "oral vaccine"!!!!! an_speechless an_getaway They would all be terrified the antidote to their own stupidity might turn them into autistic-anti-WAR-communists!....

    or worse >>>>>>> democracy and truth lovers! OMG!!!!  an_speechless an_getaway

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: 30 years bond yields hit highest rate since 2007.  This threatens to raise mortgage and credit card rates. Not getting better any time soon . . . In 10 days i will be 64, making me more set in my own ways in life, so dont have to be around trump people, including some family members and good friends.  There still my family and friends, now i just stay away from them and just live with the past good memories i had with all of them before they acquired TDS. I wish there was a pill they could all take to get rid of that awful nasty disease they now have lmfaoooooooooooooooo

     

    @cd329

     Ahh!  You mean like an antidote to the "dumb-it-down-Kool-aid" their entire cult drank.......But how would we get them to take it? For them it would be exactly the same as taking an "oral vaccine"!!!!! an_speechless an_getaway They would all be terrified the antidote to their own stupidity might turn them into autistic-anti-WAR-communists!....

    or worse >>>>>>> democracy and truth lovers! OMG!!!!  an_speechless an_getaway

     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2026 - 9:17 AM ET #24

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     Banks, Owebamacare....it doesn't really matter. The fact is the debt pretty much doubled during his tenure & has been OOC ever since.

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    @wallstreetcappers

     Banks, Owebamacare....it doesn't really matter. The fact is the debt pretty much doubled during his tenure & has been OOC ever since.

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2026 - 11:05 AM ET #25

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     So a itsy bitsy financial crisis doesnt matter that much huh? A near global meltdown and vaporware on multiple financial institutions doesnt matter?

    Does it matter as much as a lamebrain war against the worst country in the ME you could possibly engage with?

    When it serves your narrative it is a-ok but otherwise its not a big deal...financial crisis is nothin it happens every year or two.

    an_getaway

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    @THEMUGG

     So a itsy bitsy financial crisis doesnt matter that much huh? A near global meltdown and vaporware on multiple financial institutions doesnt matter?

    Does it matter as much as a lamebrain war against the worst country in the ME you could possibly engage with?

    When it serves your narrative it is a-ok but otherwise its not a big deal...financial crisis is nothin it happens every year or two.

    an_getaway

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