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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2024 - 4:31 PM ET #501

    Biden will point fingers at Republicans rejecting 5000 a day. What he will not say;

     

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    Biden will point fingers at Republicans rejecting 5000 a day. What he will not say;

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2024 - 4:45 PM ET #502

    @UNIMAN

     

     Amazing how Biden and the Dems can flip-flop so fast when the far-left, squad and Radicals push this feeble and weak leadership.  Now that the invasion is so overwhelming, they have no choice but to address it and blame Republicans any way possible. Buckle up as crime will run out-of-control next 10 plus years from this nightmare Biden created.

    Thanks for sharing that video as most would not believe it unless they seen Obama and Clinton stance prior, that was in line with Trump and what he accomplished. Sad Biden on his first day did to wreck and destroy what the previous Republican and Dem leaders did to protect us.

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     Amazing how Biden and the Dems can flip-flop so fast when the far-left, squad and Radicals push this feeble and weak leadership.  Now that the invasion is so overwhelming, they have no choice but to address it and blame Republicans any way possible. Buckle up as crime will run out-of-control next 10 plus years from this nightmare Biden created.

    Thanks for sharing that video as most would not believe it unless they seen Obama and Clinton stance prior, that was in line with Trump and what he accomplished. Sad Biden on his first day did to wreck and destroy what the previous Republican and Dem leaders did to protect us.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2024 - 9:58 PM ET #503

    @UNIMAN

     What this video proves & without even opening his mouth, it presents Donald the Rapist as an ignorant clown with his juvenile facial expressions.

    This video also proves that neither side of the aisle has resolved the immigration issue. 

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    @UNIMAN

     What this video proves & without even opening his mouth, it presents Donald the Rapist as an ignorant clown with his juvenile facial expressions.

    This video also proves that neither side of the aisle has resolved the immigration issue. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2024 - 10:05 PM ET #504

    @Midnight1

    Obama deporter and Chief 1.7 million illegals at this point in his Presidency

    Trump 1.7 million illegals at this point in his Presidency

    Biden 7.2 million illegals and growing the fastest of any prior President.

    Seemed the Dem and Republican previous Presidents had a better handle on the border. Hmmm They need to arrest Trump for the border problem as well.

     

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    @Midnight1

    Obama deporter and Chief 1.7 million illegals at this point in his Presidency

    Trump 1.7 million illegals at this point in his Presidency

    Biden 7.2 million illegals and growing the fastest of any prior President.

    Seemed the Dem and Republican previous Presidents had a better handle on the border. Hmmm They need to arrest Trump for the border problem as well.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 1:06 AM ET #505

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    The Biden admin. is now referring to the illegals as "newcomers".

    an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    The Biden admin. is now referring to the illegals as "newcomers".

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 1:08 AM ET #506

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     thx for keeping theses horrendous Biden Newcomer's crimes reported , at this rate i guess its about time to open a thread for daily updates 

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    @cdog8043

     thx for keeping theses horrendous Biden Newcomer's crimes reported , at this rate i guess its about time to open a thread for daily updates 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 1:19 AM ET #507

    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1763274384469274901

     

     

    a massive vigil today for Laken Riley , brutally murdered by one of Biden's newcomers 

    without X , Elon Musk ,  we would not know about it 

    RIP Laken peace , may your murderer rot in hell

     

    Fupah , Kelly M , and Co , say her name !  , "Laken Riley" ...remember that phrase ? 

    President Donald John Trump called her family , Joe Biden , well he did not 

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    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1763274384469274901

     

     

    a massive vigil today for Laken Riley , brutally murdered by one of Biden's newcomers 

    without X , Elon Musk ,  we would not know about it 

    RIP Laken peace , may your murderer rot in hell

     

    Fupah , Kelly M , and Co , say her name !  , "Laken Riley" ...remember that phrase ? 

    President Donald John Trump called her family , Joe Biden , well he did not 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 1:29 AM ET #508

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    Careful you may get arrested standing up for Trump.  

    They cannot say Laken Riley either. Horrible as her skull was deformed from being bashed in from a illegal that was arrested multi times and let go again and again.

     

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    Careful you may get arrested standing up for Trump.  

    They cannot say Laken Riley either. Horrible as her skull was deformed from being bashed in from a illegal that was arrested multi times and let go again and again.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 8:45 AM ET #509

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Mayorkas should be held on manslaughter charges of "gross negligence" ,  for his handling of the Southern Border.  It has directly led to the murder of one victim, and will undoubtedly lead to many more...    How can any member of Congress not vote to impeach this sorry Son of a Bitch.      US sentencing commission data shows American citizens are over two times more likely to commit violent crimes than non-citizens.  Immigrants are far more likely to be victims instead of perpetrators of crime.  House impeachment is a political exercise and not a court of law.  Since there is no evidence of high crime by Mavorkas or any other homeland security secretary, he is likely to be exonerated by senate.

    They're here illegally. By definition, they are all criminals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Mayorkas should be held on manslaughter charges of "gross negligence" ,  for his handling of the Southern Border.  It has directly led to the murder of one victim, and will undoubtedly lead to many more...    How can any member of Congress not vote to impeach this sorry Son of a Bitch.      US sentencing commission data shows American citizens are over two times more likely to commit violent crimes than non-citizens.  Immigrants are far more likely to be victims instead of perpetrators of crime.  House impeachment is a political exercise and not a court of law.  Since there is no evidence of high crime by Mavorkas or any other homeland security secretary, he is likely to be exonerated by senate.

    They're here illegally. By definition, they are all criminals.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 8:47 AM ET #510

    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    God Bless Donald J. Trump. Please bring back your policies before it is too late.

    10 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    God Bless Donald J. Trump. Please bring back your policies before it is too late.

    10 months.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 8:51 AM ET #511

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1763274384469274901     a massive vigil today for Laken Riley , brutally murdered by one of Biden's newcomers  without X , Elon Musk ,  we would not know about it  RIP Laken  , may your murderer rot in hell   Fupah , Kelly M , and Co , say her name !  , "Laken Riley" ...remember that phrase ?  President Donald John Trump called her family , Joe Biden , well he did not

     

    This was a huge national story. Not just on X. He has an illegal brother with a criminal record yet he isn't being deported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1763274384469274901     a massive vigil today for Laken Riley , brutally murdered by one of Biden's newcomers  without X , Elon Musk ,  we would not know about it  RIP Laken  , may your murderer rot in hell   Fupah , Kelly M , and Co , say her name !  , "Laken Riley" ...remember that phrase ?  President Donald John Trump called her family , Joe Biden , well he did not

     

    This was a huge national story. Not just on X. He has an illegal brother with a criminal record yet he isn't being deported.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 10:07 AM ET #512

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    They're here illegally. By definition, they are all criminals.

    Under the law, being an illegal immigrant is a civil violation and not a criminal offense.  Penalty is deportation which supreme court says is not criminal punishment.  According to NBC news, Trump's fear-mongering claim of migrant crime wave is unsupported by national data from police departments.  Overall, crime rates have declined in cities that receive the most immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    They're here illegally. By definition, they are all criminals.

    Under the law, being an illegal immigrant is a civil violation and not a criminal offense.  Penalty is deportation which supreme court says is not criminal punishment.  According to NBC news, Trump's fear-mongering claim of migrant crime wave is unsupported by national data from police departments.  Overall, crime rates have declined in cities that receive the most immigrants.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 10:20 AM ET #513

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    Biden asked Trump to help him with the border policies. Biden needs no help and simply has to put Trump prior polices in place.

    Dems tried to force a law saying 5,000 illegals a day is acceptable. ZERO illegals a day is acceptable. Legal immigrants is a different story and you vet and "approve" those people into the country.

    I never thought I'd say a National ID card is needed as I do not like big Government. I now believe the only way to get this mess under control is asking all citazens to get the National ID card with-in 1 year. if you do not have it, you are deported and we get the USA back from the massive illegal population.

    Thoughts welcome on a National ID card.

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    Biden asked Trump to help him with the border policies. Biden needs no help and simply has to put Trump prior polices in place.

    Dems tried to force a law saying 5,000 illegals a day is acceptable. ZERO illegals a day is acceptable. Legal immigrants is a different story and you vet and "approve" those people into the country.

    I never thought I'd say a National ID card is needed as I do not like big Government. I now believe the only way to get this mess under control is asking all citazens to get the National ID card with-in 1 year. if you do not have it, you are deported and we get the USA back from the massive illegal population.

    Thoughts welcome on a National ID card.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    Biden asked Trump to help him with the border policies. Biden needs no help and simply has to put Trump prior polices in place. Dems tried to force a law saying 5,000 illegals a day is acceptable. ZERO illegals a day is acceptable.

    Courts struck down Trump illegal policies.  In response, Biden signed executive orders to substitute for end of title 42 and remain in Mexico policy.  The big lie is that bipartisan border bill would allow 5000 migrants a day to enter US.  Actually, border automatically closes when migrant encounters are excessive. Migrants won't be able to apply for asylum.  Republican Langford says bill is designed to keep more people out rather than let more people in. 

    Also zero border crossings is an unattainable goal that tough enforcement has failed to achieve for decades.  Instead Migration policy institute recommends goal of not removing 100% of illegal immigrants but rather to manage immigration consistent with the law.  Any border solution should improve legal immigration.  National foundation for American policy says that is a proven way to significantly reduce illegal immigration in US history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    Biden asked Trump to help him with the border policies. Biden needs no help and simply has to put Trump prior polices in place. Dems tried to force a law saying 5,000 illegals a day is acceptable. ZERO illegals a day is acceptable.

    Courts struck down Trump illegal policies.  In response, Biden signed executive orders to substitute for end of title 42 and remain in Mexico policy.  The big lie is that bipartisan border bill would allow 5000 migrants a day to enter US.  Actually, border automatically closes when migrant encounters are excessive. Migrants won't be able to apply for asylum.  Republican Langford says bill is designed to keep more people out rather than let more people in. 

    Also zero border crossings is an unattainable goal that tough enforcement has failed to achieve for decades.  Instead Migration policy institute recommends goal of not removing 100% of illegal immigrants but rather to manage immigration consistent with the law.  Any border solution should improve legal immigration.  National foundation for American policy says that is a proven way to significantly reduce illegal immigration in US history.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    @StumpTownStu Biden asked Trump to help him with the border policies. Biden needs no help and simply has to put Trump prior polices in place. Dems tried to force a law saying 5,000 illegals a day is acceptable. ZERO illegals a day is acceptable. Legal immigrants is a different story and you vet and "approve" those people into the country. I never thought I'd say a National ID card is needed as I do not like big Government. I now believe the only way to get this mess under control is asking all citazens to get the National ID card with-in 1 year. if you do not have it, you are deported and we get the USA back from the massive illegal population. Thoughts welcome on a National ID card.

    We have REAL state IDs now. That's a start. I support zero tolerance of illegal immigration. I would even strictly limit work visas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    @StumpTownStu Biden asked Trump to help him with the border policies. Biden needs no help and simply has to put Trump prior polices in place. Dems tried to force a law saying 5,000 illegals a day is acceptable. ZERO illegals a day is acceptable. Legal immigrants is a different story and you vet and "approve" those people into the country. I never thought I'd say a National ID card is needed as I do not like big Government. I now believe the only way to get this mess under control is asking all citazens to get the National ID card with-in 1 year. if you do not have it, you are deported and we get the USA back from the massive illegal population. Thoughts welcome on a National ID card.

    We have REAL state IDs now. That's a start. I support zero tolerance of illegal immigration. I would even strictly limit work visas.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 12:54 PM ET #516

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    So 10 million plus illegals in 4 years is acceptable. They have court dates 4-6 years out!

    Please Trump fix this nightmare!

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    So 10 million plus illegals in 4 years is acceptable. They have court dates 4-6 years out!

    Please Trump fix this nightmare!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: They're here illegally. By definition, they are all criminals. Under the law, being an illegal immigrant is a civil violation and not a criminal offense.  Penalty is deportation which supreme court says is not criminal punishment.  According to NBC news, Trump's fear-mongering claim of migrant crime wave is unsupported by national data from police departments.  Overall, crime rates have declined in cities that receive the most immigrants.

    This is mere semantics you Leftists use.  Overstaying a visa is different than illegally entering the USA.  For example:

    A criminal violation comes with a punishment, like time in prison. Civil cases come with penalties instead.

     

    Unlawful Presence Is Not a Crime

    Some may assume that all immigrants who are in the United States without legal status must have committed improper entry. This simply isn't the case. Many foreign nationals legally enter the country on a valid work or travel visa, but fail to exit before their visa expires for a variety of reasons.

    But mere unlawful presence in the country is not a crime. It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal. Chief among these civil penalties is deportation or removal, where an unlawful resident may be detained and removed from the country. Unlawful presence can also have negative consequencesfor a resident who may seek to gain re-entry into the United States, or permanent residency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: They're here illegally. By definition, they are all criminals. Under the law, being an illegal immigrant is a civil violation and not a criminal offense.  Penalty is deportation which supreme court says is not criminal punishment.  According to NBC news, Trump's fear-mongering claim of migrant crime wave is unsupported by national data from police departments.  Overall, crime rates have declined in cities that receive the most immigrants.

    This is mere semantics you Leftists use.  Overstaying a visa is different than illegally entering the USA.  For example:

    A criminal violation comes with a punishment, like time in prison. Civil cases come with penalties instead.

     

    Unlawful Presence Is Not a Crime

    Some may assume that all immigrants who are in the United States without legal status must have committed improper entry. This simply isn't the case. Many foreign nationals legally enter the country on a valid work or travel visa, but fail to exit before their visa expires for a variety of reasons.

    But mere unlawful presence in the country is not a crime. It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal. Chief among these civil penalties is deportation or removal, where an unlawful resident may be detained and removed from the country. Unlawful presence can also have negative consequencesfor a resident who may seek to gain re-entry into the United States, or permanent residency.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2024 - 1:45 PM ET #518

    @thirdperson

     

    Criminal Penalties for Improper Entry to the United States

    For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both.

    For a subsequent offense, the person can be fined or imprisoned for up to two years, or both.

     

    But just in case that isn't enough to deter illegal entrants, a separate section of the law adds penalties for reentry (or attempted reentry) in cases where the person had been convicted of certain types of crimes and thus removed (deported) from the U.S., as follows:

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    Criminal Penalties for Improper Entry to the United States

    For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both.

    For a subsequent offense, the person can be fined or imprisoned for up to two years, or both.

     

    But just in case that isn't enough to deter illegal entrants, a separate section of the law adds penalties for reentry (or attempted reentry) in cases where the person had been convicted of certain types of crimes and thus removed (deported) from the U.S., as follows:

     
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    8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

     

    (a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts

    Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

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    @thirdperson

     

    8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

     

    (a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts

    Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

     
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     Hopefully that will help clear up some of the distinctions for you.  
    Certainly you guys on the Left interpret it the way you want to suit your agenda — but it is fairly clear the intent of the law(s) and the differences.  

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     Hopefully that will help clear up some of the distinctions for you.  
    Certainly you guys on the Left interpret it the way you want to suit your agenda — but it is fairly clear the intent of the law(s) and the differences.  

     
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    Many on the left do not think laws should be enforced unless it applies to Trump in a negative way. The good news is, most Trump trails look to be after the election allowing democracy to be center stage and the next President be voted in based on the peoples vote. 

     

    If Trump gets only 4% great votes this election, all those after hours vans, full of 100% Biden votes will not make the difference.

     

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    Many on the left do not think laws should be enforced unless it applies to Trump in a negative way. The good news is, most Trump trails look to be after the election allowing democracy to be center stage and the next President be voted in based on the peoples vote. 

     

    If Trump gets only 4% great votes this election, all those after hours vans, full of 100% Biden votes will not make the difference.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    @Raiders22   Many on the left do not think laws should be enforced unless it applies to Trump in a negative way. The good news is, most Trump trails look to be after the election allowing democracy to be center stage and the next President be voted in based on the peoples vote.    If Trump gets only 4% great votes this election, all those after hours vans, full of 100% Biden votes will not make the difference.

     

    Yeah, let's not prosecute illegals. Let's prosecute a guy for paying hush money to a porn star he boned in Vegas. If she followed the unwritten rule of things staying in Vegas that happen in Vegas, he wouldn't of had to pay her. You just can't trust proper person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    @Raiders22   Many on the left do not think laws should be enforced unless it applies to Trump in a negative way. The good news is, most Trump trails look to be after the election allowing democracy to be center stage and the next President be voted in based on the peoples vote.    If Trump gets only 4% great votes this election, all those after hours vans, full of 100% Biden votes will not make the difference.

     

    Yeah, let's not prosecute illegals. Let's prosecute a guy for paying hush money to a porn star he boned in Vegas. If she followed the unwritten rule of things staying in Vegas that happen in Vegas, he wouldn't of had to pay her. You just can't trust proper person.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    @Raiders22   Many on the left do not think laws should be enforced unless it applies to Trump in a negative way. The good news is, most Trump trails look to be after the election allowing democracy to be center stage and the next President be voted in based on the peoples vote.    If Trump gets only 4% great votes this election, all those after hours vans, full of 100% Biden votes will not make the difference.

    Yeah, let's not prosecute illegals. Let's prosecute a guy for paying hush money to a porn star he boned in Vegas. If she followed the unwritten rule of things staying in Vegad that happen in Vegas, he wouldn't of had to pay her. You just can't trust proper person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witswits:

    @Raiders22   Many on the left do not think laws should be enforced unless it applies to Trump in a negative way. The good news is, most Trump trails look to be after the election allowing democracy to be center stage and the next President be voted in based on the peoples vote.    If Trump gets only 4% great votes this election, all those after hours vans, full of 100% Biden votes will not make the difference.

    Yeah, let's not prosecute illegals. Let's prosecute a guy for paying hush money to a porn star he boned in Vegas. If she followed the unwritten rule of things staying in Vegad that happen in Vegas, he wouldn't of had to pay her. You just can't trust proper person.

     
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    Associated press reveals Russian campaign spreading disinformation to stoke outrage over US immigration and border security.   On the internet, misleading stories about violent crimes involving immigrants are highlighted with warnings of consequences.  Goal is to weaken US support for Ukraine by helping Trump win 2024 election.  Previously, Russia lies about bio labs and Nazis genocide in Ukraine.  Russia has a history of interfering in the elections of other countries.  A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin.

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    Associated press reveals Russian campaign spreading disinformation to stoke outrage over US immigration and border security.   On the internet, misleading stories about violent crimes involving immigrants are highlighted with warnings of consequences.  Goal is to weaken US support for Ukraine by helping Trump win 2024 election.  Previously, Russia lies about bio labs and Nazis genocide in Ukraine.  Russia has a history of interfering in the elections of other countries.  A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin.

     
     
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    Liberalism is a mental disorder...

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