@Raiders22
No Not for 1% ….They have ther share! Now “”you want Or they “ want more ? There average working stiff was lucky if he noticed a difference in Trumps 1st tax cut that put use Trillions more in the hole!….I believe we have been down this road Raider?….I think we disagree on this but that’s fine with me 
@joe pockets
No Not for 1% ….
That is not the question. Those cuts would not be for the 1%. Focus on the SS tax cuts.
So, why would you not support those cuts?
No, we have not been down this road. This is the very first time this has been proposed and discussed on here that I can recall.
@joe pockets
This is still the question. Why do you not support thee cuts?
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He removed more illegal immigrants because there was a border surge when he took office. He removed more but more got through as well.
There is no proof, no measurable data point, that you can point to that says the covid vaccine saved millions of lives.
All garbage non sense. US economy has been the envy of the world since the World Wars. If Biden lets in illegals, of course there's a greater chance at removing more illegals. No proof that the vax prevented millions of covid deaths. Third, show PROOF to your claims. Since you appear to be a bot, show proof since 99% of your comments come off as facts, but yet, you provide no actual facts. If this site is going to allow "fact checking bots" the poster should at least provide sources to back up the bogus claims.
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@Raiders22
Why do you not support thee cuts? 1,Because the projected that extending current tax relief would increase deficits by 4 Trillion …2, Because as always these massive tax breaks which are far more beneficial for billionaires and wealthy corporations” alongside policies that would make “working families and middle-class folks and the poor, the sick and the afflicted … pay for it
Why not try it this way actually it’s simple: let the 2017 tax cuts expire. Reinstate the $10k cap on SALT deductions, raise the corporate tax rate to 28%, and treat dividends and capital gains as regular income. This would kickstart the process of balancing the federal budget, which many continue to complain about.
It’s simple: let the 2017 tax cuts expire. Reinstate the $10k cap on SALT deductions, raise the corporate tax rate to 28%, and treat dividends and capital gains as regular income. This would kickstart the process of balancing the federal budget, which many continue to complain about.
This would be a strong first step in fixing the U.S. financial situation. You’d be amazed at how quickly the deficit could be reduced.
@joe pockets
1,Because the projected that extending current tax relief would increase deficits by 4 Trillion
What? Where are you getting this from? What does this matter, exactly, about the SS cuts?
2, Because as always these massive tax breaks which are far more beneficial for billionaires
They are not and these was demonstrated the last time. plus, these has nothing to do with the SS cuts. This are NOT for the 'billionaires'.
Why not try it this way actually it’s simple: let the 2017 tax cuts expire.
This is an entirely different issue as well.
Reinstate the $10k cap on SALT deductions, raise the corporate tax rate to 28%, and treat dividends and capital gains as regular income. This would kickstart the process of balancing the federal budget, which many continue to complain about.
So, you just want more and more taxes?
So, why not INCREASE the SS taxes also?
Reinstate the $10k cap on SALT deductions,
I have already answered this elsewhere. This is another bad idea that does NOT benefit the poor or lower class that need it the most.
This would be a strong first step in fixing the U.S. financial situation. You’d be amazed at how quickly the deficit could be reduced.
I would not be amazed at all, because it has been proven to not work.
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So many questions !
So, you are not for the SS cuts? Because you do not want to cut anyone's taxes? BUT you want to give deductions to some people and NOT others?
Most the tax loop hole and or deductions will never be used by the average taxpayer…..You know that! Do you realize you have a group of people that year in and year out zero out there tax returns that think that the richest people who have ever lived are an oppressed class who desperately need tax relief so that they don’t fucking take a rocket to Mars to get escape the oppressive tax rates of Earth so that they can generously bestow jobs upon us as a kindness, and that taxes are an instrument of pure evil. And these same people who think that the poorest of that same society are “lucky duckies” because they don’t make enough income to pay federal income tax, and those people must be punished for it.
So, why not INCREASE the SS taxes also?
Keep it the same and raise the cut of from 175.000 to double ! Or better yet take the limit off altogether and offer no additional benefits.
I would not be amazed at all, because it has been proven to not work.
I Believe it it would be better than as is and worth a shot!
You know Raider the problem with our taxation & wealth disparity situation is the tippy top of wealth owners in this country cry “You can’t squeeze blood from a stone” and say that the real problem these days is not that the poor aren’t paying enough tax ! But really that the rich aren’t paying nearly enough. We should put the top tax rates back up around 50 %. History will prove capital naturally tends to pool at the top, and when that happens the economy stagnates. Aggressive taxation of the richest individuals pumps that money back into the economy and raise the boats for everyone……Do you realize how Top level wealth is Stagnating today? It’s mind boggling to say the least ….
I wonder if President Musk will enrich himself further using the Oval office...
@joe pockets
So, you are not for the SS cuts? Because you do not want to cut anyone's taxes? BUT you want to give deductions to some people and NOT others?
Most the tax loop hole and or deductions will never be used by the average taxpayer…..You know that! Do you realize you have a group of people that year in and year out zero out there tax returns that think that the richest people who have ever lived are an oppressed class who desperately need tax relief so that they don’t fucking take a rocket to Mars to get escape the oppressive tax rates of Earth so that they can generously bestow jobs upon us as a kindness, and that taxes are an instrument of pure evil. And these same people who think that the poorest of that same society are “lucky duckies” because they don’t make enough income to pay federal income tax, and those people must be punished for it.
What question are you answering here?
So, you are not for the SS cuts?
I do not see an answer to the ONLY question I have been asking you about. I assume it is no.
@joe pockets
Most the tax loop hole and or deductions will never be used by the average taxpayer…..You know that!
I never said they did. I questioned why you want to continue deductions that are only available to certain taxpayers -- and usually above average income earners. Why are you for that policy?
Do you realize you have a group of people that year in and year out zero out there tax returns that think that the richest people who have ever lived are an oppressed class who desperately need tax relief
No, I do not realize that. Who says they are 'oppressed'? I only know of folks that point out they OVERWHELMINGLY shoulder the tax burden. Never heard them called 'oppressed'.
so that they don’t fucking take a rocket to Mars to get escape the oppressive tax rates of Earth so that they can generously bestow jobs upon us as a kindness, and that taxes are an instrument of pure evil.
I am not exactly sure what you are saying here. The rich folks might want to go to Mars to escape their taxes? Because the poor certainly are not oppressed by taxes. For sure, the richer supply the jobs -- so what?
And these same people who think that the poorest of that same society are “lucky duckies” because they don’t make enough income to pay federal income tax, and those people must be punished for it.
Who has said anything about them being 'lucky' because they do not pay taxes? They simply point it out. It cannot be seen as 'lucky' -- because it generally means they are lower incomes folks. I do not think anyone uses the term 'punish' to point out tat it might be a good idea for them to have some 'skin in the game', as it were.
No it actually isn't. Starting in 2021 Biden also negotiated with Mexico to place 10,000 troops at the border. Don't let get facts get in the way of your false narratives though.
@joe pockets
I Believe it it would be better than as is and worth a shot!
It has been tried and failed. You cn study the history there in the USA, or elsewhere.
You know Raider the problem with our taxation & wealth disparity situation is the tippy top of wealth owners in this country cry “You can’t squeeze blood from a stone” and say that the real problem these days is not that the poor aren’t paying enough tax !
Do you really ever see anyone say this? I only see the 'rich' point out that they are the ones paying the taxes. The issue is far more the folks in Congress wanting more and more money to spend and the only place to get it is from the rich. So, they are disproportionately taxed and Congress wants more and more form them. They realize the poor have no money to give.
But really that the rich aren’t paying nearly enough. We should put the top tax rates back up around 50 %. History will prove capital naturally tends to pool at the top, and when that happens the economy stagnates. Aggressive taxation of the richest individuals pumps that money back into the economy and raise the boats for everyone……Do you realize how Top level wealth is Stagnating today? It’s mind boggling to say the least
You can go back and look at any past tax history and see how this has been tried and does not work. The total money does not 'pump back into the economy'.
@joe pockets
So, you are not for the SS cuts?
This is the only question I really was asking about.
I do not mind addressing ALL of the other issues you bring up.
BUT why would you NOT want to help a group that could use these cuts more than any other group?
I would think this MIGHT be a cut that t=some on the Left might get behind.
The other question I have about this is -- if you do NOT support a SS cut, do you support a SS tax hike?
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