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    Sidehatch
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2025 - 2:17 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Summer Camp at MCArthur park in LA you guys wouldn't approach this park day or night , no one in LA would

    Wow, you’re certainly naive! My golfing buddy works a few blocks from there, and I go by if 2-10x/yr! 

    But please, do tell us about public parks where you obviously don’t live lol. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    Summer Camp at MCArthur park in LA you guys wouldn't approach this park day or night , no one in LA would

    Wow, you’re certainly naive! My golfing buddy works a few blocks from there, and I go by if 2-10x/yr! 

    But please, do tell us about public parks where you obviously don’t live lol. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2025 - 2:20 AM ET #52

    I found it! Pro-racism (hates brown people) poster Sarasota Sack posted:

    ”President Trump  proves that RACIST/CONVICTED FELONS make the best Presidents..”

    So there you have it. He’s on the record as celebrating racist felons. 

    Keep that in mind next time this racist whines like a beta male lol

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    I found it! Pro-racism (hates brown people) poster Sarasota Sack posted:

    ”President Trump  proves that RACIST/CONVICTED FELONS make the best Presidents..”

    So there you have it. He’s on the record as celebrating racist felons. 

    Keep that in mind next time this racist whines like a beta male lol

     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2025 - 7:20 AM ET #53

    @Sidehatch 

    I'm guilty as charged,and I apologize.   Not for posting that”President Trump proves that RACIST/CONVICTED FELONS make the best Presidents..” but, I apologize for any damage my slander may have caused you ..

     I beg your pardon..

    SarasotaSlim

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    @Sidehatch 

    I'm guilty as charged,and I apologize.   Not for posting that”President Trump proves that RACIST/CONVICTED FELONS make the best Presidents..” but, I apologize for any damage my slander may have caused you ..

     I beg your pardon..

    SarasotaSlim

     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2025 - 7:02 PM ET #54

    Alligator Alcatraz will cost Florida taxpayers at least 450 million to operate pr year. That's not counting the cost to evacuate the location during a hurricane & finding a secure area to stage the prisoners.

    I can think of a number of problems in our state that could have used 450 million to improve our living conditions. Replacing our archaic state technology &  homeowner insurance relief immediately come to mind. 

    Meanwhile ICE is out of control just like DOGE & we are already seeing the negative impacts.

     

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    Alligator Alcatraz will cost Florida taxpayers at least 450 million to operate pr year. That's not counting the cost to evacuate the location during a hurricane & finding a secure area to stage the prisoners.

    I can think of a number of problems in our state that could have used 450 million to improve our living conditions. Replacing our archaic state technology &  homeowner insurance relief immediately come to mind. 

    Meanwhile ICE is out of control just like DOGE & we are already seeing the negative impacts.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2025 - 7:59 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Alligator Alcatraz will cost Florida taxpayers at least 450 million to operate pr year. That's not counting the cost to evacuate the location during a hurricane & finding a secure area to stage the prisoners. I can think of a number of problems in our state that could have used 450 million to improve our living conditions. Replacing our archaic state technology &  homeowner insurance relief immediately come to mind.  Meanwhile ICE is out of control just like DOGE & we are already seeing the negative impacts.

    $450 million is nothing to the Trump Admin. At his current pace, that’s what it’s going to cost taxpayers just for him to golf in Term 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Alligator Alcatraz will cost Florida taxpayers at least 450 million to operate pr year. That's not counting the cost to evacuate the location during a hurricane & finding a secure area to stage the prisoners. I can think of a number of problems in our state that could have used 450 million to improve our living conditions. Replacing our archaic state technology &  homeowner insurance relief immediately come to mind.  Meanwhile ICE is out of control just like DOGE & we are already seeing the negative impacts.

    $450 million is nothing to the Trump Admin. At his current pace, that’s what it’s going to cost taxpayers just for him to golf in Term 2.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 15, 2025 - 8:52 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    I found it! Pro-racism (hates brown people) poster Sarasota Sack posted: ”President Trump  proves that RACIST/CONVICTED FELONS make the best Presidents..” So there you have it. He’s on the record as celebrating racist felons. Keep that in mind next time this racist whines like a beta male lol

    This looks like a personal attack. Please follow the rules.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    I found it! Pro-racism (hates brown people) poster Sarasota Sack posted: ”President Trump  proves that RACIST/CONVICTED FELONS make the best Presidents..” So there you have it. He’s on the record as celebrating racist felons. Keep that in mind next time this racist whines like a beta male lol

    This looks like a personal attack. Please follow the rules.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2025 - 3:34 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

      Meanwhile ICE is out of control just like DOGE & we are already seeing the negative impacts.

    Most immigrants arrested don't have criminal records.  With excess spending on immigration, funding is diverted from law enforcement for fighting real criminals.  Historically, there has been no healthy law enforcement agency that expands too quickly.  Detention facilities are substandard, hiring standards are lowered, training cut short and inexperienced ICE agents make more mistakes by arresting too fast.  American immigration council warns costly mass deportation could reduce US GDP by trillions.  However Center for American progress estimates legalization of illegal immigrants could boost GDP by trillions.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

      Meanwhile ICE is out of control just like DOGE & we are already seeing the negative impacts.

    Most immigrants arrested don't have criminal records.  With excess spending on immigration, funding is diverted from law enforcement for fighting real criminals.  Historically, there has been no healthy law enforcement agency that expands too quickly.  Detention facilities are substandard, hiring standards are lowered, training cut short and inexperienced ICE agents make more mistakes by arresting too fast.  American immigration council warns costly mass deportation could reduce US GDP by trillions.  However Center for American progress estimates legalization of illegal immigrants could boost GDP by trillions.  

     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2025 - 9:14 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:   Meanwhile ICE is out of control just like DOGE & we are already seeing the negative impacts. Most immigrants arrested don't have criminal records.  With excess spending on immigration, funding is diverted from law enforcement for fighting real criminals.  Historically, there has been no healthy law enforcement agency that expands too quickly.  Detention facilities are substandard, hiring standards are lowered, training cut short and inexperienced ICE agents make more mistakes by arresting too fast.  American immigration council warns costly mass deportation could reduce US GDP by trillions.  However Center for American progress estimates legalization of illegal immigrants could boost GDP by trillions.

    Statements like this are the reason people are becoming disillusioned with the Democratic party.

    First, no one cares about their criminal records. They're very presence is illegal.

    Since when has the Democrats been overly concerned about stripping funding from local law enforcement. And from what source are you even getting this. ICE funding is unrelated to that of local/state law enforcement.

    Raoud growth of any entity can be complicated, but sometimes certain measures are necessary. Joe Biden absolutely failed us on illegal immigration. This isn't Republican propaganda. It's an absolute, a measurable fact. Trump kept it in check. Obama before him. Biden made it clear, with his very own words, that we were wide open.

    The American Immigration Council is a organization of immigration lawyers who often provide pro bono representation to illega aliens and "asylum seekers". They clearly know nothing about economics and are throwing around arbitrary numbers. The notion that mass deportation represents a potential swing in the trillions is completely asinine.

    The Center for American Progress is a far left think tank founded by John Podesta. Need I say more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:   Meanwhile ICE is out of control just like DOGE & we are already seeing the negative impacts. Most immigrants arrested don't have criminal records.  With excess spending on immigration, funding is diverted from law enforcement for fighting real criminals.  Historically, there has been no healthy law enforcement agency that expands too quickly.  Detention facilities are substandard, hiring standards are lowered, training cut short and inexperienced ICE agents make more mistakes by arresting too fast.  American immigration council warns costly mass deportation could reduce US GDP by trillions.  However Center for American progress estimates legalization of illegal immigrants could boost GDP by trillions.

    Statements like this are the reason people are becoming disillusioned with the Democratic party.

    First, no one cares about their criminal records. They're very presence is illegal.

    Since when has the Democrats been overly concerned about stripping funding from local law enforcement. And from what source are you even getting this. ICE funding is unrelated to that of local/state law enforcement.

    Raoud growth of any entity can be complicated, but sometimes certain measures are necessary. Joe Biden absolutely failed us on illegal immigration. This isn't Republican propaganda. It's an absolute, a measurable fact. Trump kept it in check. Obama before him. Biden made it clear, with his very own words, that we were wide open.

    The American Immigration Council is a organization of immigration lawyers who often provide pro bono representation to illega aliens and "asylum seekers". They clearly know nothing about economics and are throwing around arbitrary numbers. The notion that mass deportation represents a potential swing in the trillions is completely asinine.

    The Center for American Progress is a far left think tank founded by John Podesta. Need I say more?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2025 - 10:22 AM ET #59

    Most economists accept that net effect of immigration is positive overall for US economy in the long term.  Legal and illegal immigrants contribute to economy as workers, consumers, tax payers and entrepreneurs.  But Peterson institute study also found that mass deportation would harm US economy.  Unlike other presidents, Trump undermines legal migration.  American enterprise institute reports that US will likely experience negative net migration for the first time in 50 years.  Shrinking US work force, tax revenue, consumer spending and economic growth.

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    Most economists accept that net effect of immigration is positive overall for US economy in the long term.  Legal and illegal immigrants contribute to economy as workers, consumers, tax payers and entrepreneurs.  But Peterson institute study also found that mass deportation would harm US economy.  Unlike other presidents, Trump undermines legal migration.  American enterprise institute reports that US will likely experience negative net migration for the first time in 50 years.  Shrinking US work force, tax revenue, consumer spending and economic growth.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2025 - 9:07 PM ET #60

    Those liberals at the US Chamber of Commerce are pro-immigration, because it’s good for the economy and good for business. 

    Of course people care about the criminal records. Nobody is objecting to the deportation of actual criminals who commuted violent crimes, what people are objecting to is the deportation of lawful construction workers, gardeners, child care workers, nurses, etc.

    Deporting people for a criminal record and defining a “criminal record” as a “speeding ticket” is bs. It’s just a false pretense.

     
    And what people are also objecting to are the daily ICE arrests of US citizens. It’s illegal and clearly unconstitutional. Not that the fascists care about the Constitution, they voted for a dotard who palled around with Epstein and called for the termination of the Constitution. 

    EPSTEIN EPSTEIN EPSTEIN!!!

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    Those liberals at the US Chamber of Commerce are pro-immigration, because it’s good for the economy and good for business. 

    Of course people care about the criminal records. Nobody is objecting to the deportation of actual criminals who commuted violent crimes, what people are objecting to is the deportation of lawful construction workers, gardeners, child care workers, nurses, etc.

    Deporting people for a criminal record and defining a “criminal record” as a “speeding ticket” is bs. It’s just a false pretense.

     
    And what people are also objecting to are the daily ICE arrests of US citizens. It’s illegal and clearly unconstitutional. Not that the fascists care about the Constitution, they voted for a dotard who palled around with Epstein and called for the termination of the Constitution. 

    EPSTEIN EPSTEIN EPSTEIN!!!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2025 - 11:41 PM ET #61

    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) is moving forward with plans to force a vote on requiring the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, despite attempts by President Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) to dampen his efforts.
    https://www.axios.com/2025/07/18/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-massie-khanna-bill

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    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) is moving forward with plans to force a vote on requiring the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, despite attempts by President Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) to dampen his efforts.
    https://www.axios.com/2025/07/18/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-massie-khanna-bill

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2025 - 12:33 AM ET #62

    Before his arrests, Epstein  a financial manager was onnected to former President Bill Clinton,..and we know how Slick WIlly liked those young interns...

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    Before his arrests, Epstein  a financial manager was onnected to former President Bill Clinton,..and we know how Slick WIlly liked those young interns...

     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2025 - 12:46 AM ET #63

    this Alligator Alcatraz has money making potential as far as a motion picture goes.  potential prison break during a hurricane evacuation, this script had Nicolas Cage's name written all over it bigsmile

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    this Alligator Alcatraz has money making potential as far as a motion picture goes.  potential prison break during a hurricane evacuation, this script had Nicolas Cage's name written all over it bigsmile

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) is moving forward with plans to force a vote on requiring the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, despite attempts by President Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) to dampen his efforts.https://www.axios.com/2025/07/18/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-massie-khanna-bill


    Transparency?  In the SEX-OFFENDER's fascist regime??

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) is moving forward with plans to force a vote on requiring the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, despite attempts by President Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) to dampen his efforts.https://www.axios.com/2025/07/18/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-massie-khanna-bill


    Transparency?  In the SEX-OFFENDER's fascist regime??

     

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