house votes on health care today.

Had a flu shot back in last October for myself, doc's office charged me some $250. Thank heaven that i have insurance, i've only paid much less on the co-pay. While guys can get a same flu shot at Costco for only $14.99, US healthcare system is a mess. 

Buddy of me has his daughter to get appendicitis surgery a couple years ago, hospital charged her over some $30,000 for the surgery. While the similar surgery costs around $1,000 in Taiwan, according my other buddy's chat. US healthcare system is a mess and grant ripoff. 

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Yeah I have a similar experience...last year I had an in-patient surgery for skin cancer (pretty common down here of course) and our health insurance isnt too bad, it isnt the best but still not bad.

The top line number the hospital wanted to charge was something in the 18k range, this was not an overnight stay just a check in and done and come out of the fog and check out kind of surgery..

So my portion of the surgery was like 1,700 which the payment was required before of course...and when I got the insurance benefit mail a month later, the ammt the insurance ended up paying was LESS than my co-pay! I was a little miffed that my yearly max co-pay was more than the insurance ended up paying but I was more shocked at how little they actually have an agreement to pay to the hospital vs the top line!

Not only pharmaceutical companies charged big fat prescription drugs price, but the doctors, hospitals, insurance companies are the issues as well. Only pull down the prescription drug prices will not do the job. The whole healthcare system needs to get overhauled, but it's ain't easy, WSC.  

where this is a sport gambling site and most that bet on sports have heard of the elective surgery of breast enhancment silcone implants.

industrial silicon goes around 134 a barrel. for 55 gallons of pure refined silcone gel for caulking tubs purchases from a whole saler, say a tube of caulking 100 % silcone goes for 6 bucks at the hard ware store 

.... this fills the surgecal membrane to specs for the implant same bag...

medical silcone goes for 55,000 a barrel 1,000 a gallon , both industrial and medical will kill you nequally as fast for it derived from SILCONE....

 want that in industrial strength or medical strength?

its the same clear gel....

avg earner making 300 a week at tax of .153 percent contribution to the program would be 

reasonable Alot of friggen money for retirement... lets leave it at that without going to spread sheats inputs.

You have to be joking...this "lets assume 3.5%" is pure garbage, how can anyone think that taxation represents a return of any kind?

Mere healthcare inflation eats up that 3.5 and add another 5 percent on top of that..let alone the fact that SS and Medicare are floating off current workers, not some reserves from decades gone by.

There is no return, there is no growth, the fact is there are more takers on both plans than givers, and the numbers are getting worse not better.

Boomers are going to destroy whatever balance you think there is in SS and Medicare, let alone the MASSIVE growth in disability claims which also come from the same pot.

Those who feel entitled think that their SS taxes are some labeled piggy bank just for them, not even thinking about how broke and gutted the system is..there is nothing in either program that states these funds are reserved for later...how do you think all this inflation is absorbed? 

Its my estimation that the current living and needy senior with average US health zaps through their alleged contributions in less than 10 years...think of how much that insurance policy would cost on the open market...the Medicare policy and annualize that..then you are starting to understand that the takers are sucking off the current and future givers.

thus this being mandatory must be honored by the full faith of the federal government before any other elected by choice government surety assuming risk is paid for in my humble opinion.

other bond packages that are not mandatory to buy have dividends allowing for all the things social security will not allow. hence being mandatory it is mandatory tfor the government to honer the problem they created.

in my belief if the government mandates that all have a form of health coverage. then the government should offer a basic plan comperable to the penalties assesed to not having coverage and offer it through payroll deduction . a larger plan or this type of plan could be covered entirely by buisnesses to attract better talent to their firms needs and goals.

520 weeks a year the penalty woud be 10 a week to avoid coverage.

what if 500 bought a catastrophic and 4 clinical visits a year at 10 be another deduction alon with state local federal social security medicare and 401 k if applicable deductions to a earners net pay ,,,,

if in sub comittee and comittee in a by partisan fashon craft a bill working with democrats maybe they could actually pass bipartisan improvemnts to the existing legislation making it better for consumers.

ah who am kidding i soooner see Nancy Pelosi endorse Pence for President,,,,,

They already cut off the PBS funding in wordsmyth's world.

Oh Biff..........

It appears that Trump's administration has decided to go for second round of repeal and replace the ACA. According to CNN breaking news, VP Pence is talking to GOP Congressmen on the subject.