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Hillary Clinton can't be trusted because of the series of allegations that she's been facing. If I was facing such allegations, I would be sent to prison but she's getting off scott free. That is sad. Because of these allegations, I would rather have a dog catcher for President.

Also, Hillary said that she's going to put a lot of coal miners out of work. Coal miners are human beings just like everybody else and they need their jobs. What will the coal miners and their families do when they go hungry or are evicted because they can't afford to buy food or pay their bills? If coal miners vote for Hillary, they'll be slicing their own throats.

I'm also worried that she may not stop at just putting coal miners out of work. What if she puts other people out of work also? I honestly believe that no votes or write in votes would be better than votes for Hillary.

 
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The coal miners will find other jobs if needed.


Do you support Trump, or are you just anti-Hillary
 
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Allegations have failed under scrutiny.  Recently, FBI vindicated Clinton by recommedning no criminal charges after email investigations.  However Trump has a long history of lawsuits against him.  When public statements are examined,  politifact found far more lies from Trump while Clinton is relatively trustworthy by politicians standards.

Employlment in U.S. coal industry peaked during the 1920's and has been declining for decades regardless of Presidents in power.  Under Obama, average number of coal miners is greater than under Bush.  According to Economic policy institute, environmental regulations has had little effect on employment.  Job losses are more affected by lower exports, mechanization and competition from cleaner fuels such as natural gas.
 
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It's important to focus on what's relevant.  Hillary has a history of poor judgment and lying ...   That should be enough to "impeach" her from the office of the presidency.  

  I doubt the citizens of this country have the same integrity, though ,  which is why  I think the values of this country are going in the toilet.  

 
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

Allegations have failed under scrutiny.  Recently, FBI vindicated Clinton by recommedning no criminal charges after email investigations.  However Trump has a long history of lawsuits against him.  When public statements are examined,  politifact found far more lies from Trump while Clinton is relatively trustworthy by politicians standards.

Employlment in U.S. coal industry peaked during the 1920's and has been declining for decades regardless of Presidents in power.  Under Obama, average number of coal miners is greater than under Bush.  According to Economic policy institute, environmental regulations has had little effect on employment.  Job losses are more affected by lower exports, mechanization and competition from cleaner fuels such as natural gas.

The ONLY reason HRC has a better liar rating than ANYBODY is because she is somewhat of a wordsmith. In other words, she very often uses a play on words that fool the simple minds and simultaneously gives her wiggle room. The liberal press is either complicit or part of the simple mind club that fails to as more direct follow up questions.

IE. "I never sent or received any emails that were marked 'classified' while I was Secretary of State"


We all know, or should know by now that they don't spell out the word 'classified' on everything that is such.

So technically, she is not lying...but she is neither telling the truth...except to simple minded covers liberals and faux NPI'S.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

Allegations have failed under scrutiny.  Recently, FBI vindicated Clinton by recommedning no criminal charges after email investigations.  However Trump has a long history of lawsuits against him.  When public statements are examined,  politifact found far more lies from Trump while Clinton is relatively trustworthy by politicians standards.

Employlment in U.S. coal industry peaked during the 1920's and has been declining for decades regardless of Presidents in power.  Under Obama, average number of coal miners is greater than under Bush.  According to Economic policy institute, environmental regulations has had little effect on employment.  Job losses are more affected by lower exports, mechanization and competition from cleaner fuels such as natural gas.

Have you bothered to notice that it has been a VERY long time since HRC has held a bona-fide press conference?

She has done select interviews where she can easily predict the line of questions. But, she is far from brave enough to enter into any type of environment where questions have no limits. 

Trump has no such fear.
 
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Anyone else would have mishandled classified would be rotting in a cell,beyond me why anyone would defend her. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by gers:

Anyone else would have mishandled classified would be rotting in a cell,beyond me why anyone would defend her. 

But it has been done before with no consequences, check out the bush admin.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

But it has been done before with no consequences, check out the bush admin.


Not on a home server. Big difference. Ask somebody.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by gers:

Anyone else would have mishandled classified would be rotting in a cell,. 

Clinton didn't recieve special treatment or leniency.  According to FBI, unfair to charge Clinton for carelessness when no one else had ever been charged by similar standard before.  Governments are awash in millions of secrets and regularly mishandle information unintentionally. So the law is written to protect the innocent by setting tough standards for prosecution.  That is, the law don't authorize punishing government officials for carelessness. 

FBI receives dozens of referrals of leaked classified information every year.  But FBI is wary of testing whether weak evidence would hold up in court.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


Not on a home server. Big difference. Ask somebody.

Here ,educate yourself so you don't look like an a$$hole .

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/04/02/396823014/fact-check-hillary-clinton-those-emails-and-the-law

 
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Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

But it has been done before with no consequences, check out the bush admin.


If the skank was a Republican would your view on this change
Darkhorse as a non partisan independent neutral and not afraid to be critical on left or right and wasn't a Bash groupie both parties are corrupt it's everywhere you go.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:


Clinton didn't recieve special treatment or leniency.  According to FBI, unfair to charge Clinton for carelessness when no one else had ever been charged by similar standard before.  Governments are awash in millions of secrets and regularly mishandle information unintentionally. So the law is written to protect the innocent by setting tough standards for prosecution.  That is, the law don't authorize punishing government officials for carelessness. 

FBI receives dozens of referrals of leaked classified information every year.  But FBI is wary of testing whether weak evidence would hold up in court.  

Okay bud believe what you want have no time for political hacks
 
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Quote Originally Posted by gers:


If the skank was a Republican would your view on this change
Darkhorse as a non partisan independent neutral and not afraid to be critical on left or right and wasn't a Bash groupie both parties are corrupt it's everywhere you go.

I don't believe you will find a post on here from me where I ever said I would vote for her. If you do there might be 1 and It was probably made to piss someone off. I would put her at #3 out of the four candidates with trump at #4.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:


Clinton didn't recieve special treatment or leniency.  According to FBI, unfair to charge Clinton for carelessness when no one else had ever been charged by similar standard before.  Governments are awash in millions of secrets and regularly mishandle information unintentionally. So the law is written to protect the innocent by setting tough standards for prosecution.  That is, the law don't authorize punishing government officials for carelessness. 

FBI receives dozens of referrals of leaked classified information every year.  But FBI is wary of testing whether weak evidence would hold up in court.  

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your argument is? She lies every time she move her lips... We pay for classified information to be protected. She decided to run her own server to hide her relationships with donors for that slush fund her and Bubba are running. Are you really that stupid? Your question should be "What is she hiding? Why does someone go to all this trouble?" Instead you're just a lemming that likes being lied to... Has anyone else ever had their own server with classified and top secret documents on it? This prove Trump correct, the system is rigged. The Clintons are above the law. If you need more evidence did you listen to the Attorney General today? She was an embarrassment. She took the 5th for Hillary Clinton today.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


Do you have any idea how ridiculous your argument is? She lies every time she move her lips... We pay for classified information to be protected. She decided to run her own server to hide her relationships with donors for that slush fund her and Bubba are running. Are you really that stupid? Your question should be "What is she hiding? Why does someone go to all this trouble?" Instead you're just a lemming that likes being lied to... Has anyone else ever had their own server with classified and top secret documents on it? This prove Trump correct, the system is rigged. The Clintons are above the law. If you need more evidence did you listen to the Attorney General today? She was an embarrassment. She took the 5th for Hillary Clinton today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=0       

 
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Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=0       


No shlt. Do you even know the difference between having your own server at home and just having a public email address?

Once again you act as if slobbering stupidity was a virtue.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=0       


Were they heads of a foundation that funnels hundreds of millions of dollars for political favors as well? Their transgressions do not rise to the level of an entire server in the basement of a house. They had an extra email address. Not even close. HRC conducted ALL BUSINESS ON HER OWN SERVER to enable complete control.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=0       


This is why you get the fraud label.

 You mysteriously don't know the difference between a home brewed server with several  IT admins and a public email address. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


Not on a home server. Big difference. Ask somebody.



Not on a home server,,,that was located in her bathroom closet..Good lord!!


"I never sent or received any emails that were marked 'classified' while I was Secretary" How exactly did she receive classified info ?  

  Carrier pigeon, pony express, UPS, Cryptograms ... Courier delivery ?

..or was there NO classified information sent to her by any means for four years?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

The coal miners will find other jobs if needed.



The fired coal miners could become Uber drivers..I hear there's a great need for ride-hailing jobs in the hills of West Virginia ..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

 
Recently, FBI vindicated Clinton by recommedning no criminal charges after email investigations.  


The reason that it is so difficult to discuss politics with most people is the post that I am responding to.
So you listened to James Comey speak on the FBI investigation, and you came away that HRC was vindicated?

"Comey raised questions about her judgment, contradicted statements she has made about her email practices, said it was possible that hostile foreign governments had gained access to her account, and declared that a person still employed by the government — Mrs. Clinton left the State Department in 2013 — could have faced disciplinary action for doing what she did."

You consider that vindication???

Questions about her judgement = She thinks she's above the law.
Contradicted statements she made = Clinton got caught lying.
Possible that hostile govrnmt has gained access = we know she was hacked, but we won't go public with it
Could have faced disciplinary action = Because she is head of the Clinton Machine, and the entire system is corrupt, this lying b!tch will walk

That's not vindication, it's politics 


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GOP has tried to make something out of nothing.  But a huge waste of time  with so little to show for it.  According to FBI, nothing was hacked and nothing compromised in national security.  In this non-scandal, no intentional misconduct and zero evidence that any crime was commited.  Clearly Clinton won in legal arena and is still a strong favourite in polls and gambling markets. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

GOP has tried to make something out of nothing.  But a huge waste of time  with so little to show for it.  According to FBI, nothing was hacked and nothing compromised in national security.  In this non-scandal, no intentional misconduct and zero evidence that any crime was commited.  Clearly Clinton won in legal arena and is still a strong favourite in polls and gambling markets. 


Translation: Deerrrrp Derrrrrp and Deerrrrrp.

thirdperson How did Hillary handle her classified or top secret or sensitive correspondence? Certainly, you don't think as Secretary of state she just didn't get much?


Please explain! Please....she was Secretary of State for fvcks sake.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


Not on a home server. Big difference. Ask somebody.

From my link:

"A State Department spokeswoman says Hillary Clinton did not break any rules by relying solely on her personal email account. Federal law allows government officials to use personal email so long as relevant documents are preserved for history."

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