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    Global warming :: is it just a 'chinese hoax' like trump told us or is it serious?

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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 12:22 PM ET #651

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: the earth recently recorded the hottest day ever on record globally
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    True! peace_5  Last week! Acknowledged virtually everywhere except among the members of the "Flat Earth Society"

     

    STUNNING: Earth reaches hottest day ever recorded, 4 days in a row!!!


    ABC NEWS -

    For 4 days in a row, the planet reached its hottest day ever recorded as regions all over the world endure dangerous heat.an_lightening

    The record was first set on Monday, eclipsed on Tuesday, and tied on Wednesday.


    an_light That record was broken on Thursday as global temperatures climbed to 17.23 degrees Celsius, or 63.01 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the NCEP.                                                         an_speechless

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: the earth recently recorded the hottest day ever on record globally
    @KellyM_1964

    True! peace_5  Last week! Acknowledged virtually everywhere except among the members of the "Flat Earth Society"

     

    STUNNING: Earth reaches hottest day ever recorded, 4 days in a row!!!


    ABC NEWS -

    For 4 days in a row, the planet reached its hottest day ever recorded as regions all over the world endure dangerous heat.an_lightening

    The record was first set on Monday, eclipsed on Tuesday, and tied on Wednesday.


    an_light That record was broken on Thursday as global temperatures climbed to 17.23 degrees Celsius, or 63.01 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the NCEP.                                                         an_speechless

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 12:42 PM ET #652

    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    If you keep posting the same thing then so will I because my taint is so hot and slick that if the hotel where I stayed at last week had bed bugs they used it as a slip and slide ya dig ?   it’s hot out there fubah I agree with you

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:

    If you keep posting the same thing then so will I because my taint is so hot and slick that if the hotel where I stayed at last week had bed bugs they used it as a slip and slide ya dig ?   it’s hot out there fubah I agree with you

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 12:47 PM ET #653

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Earth record breaking temperatures confirmed by several agencies.  US national centre for environmental prediction, NOAA, University of Maine, and others.  This week's records are probably the warmest In at least 100,000 years according to Woodwell climate research center.  But experts aren't shocked.  Over 97% of top climate scientists accept man-made global warming.  Historically, they tend to be over cautious by under estimating its severity.

    were in trouble maybe even sooner than many predict

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    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Earth record breaking temperatures confirmed by several agencies.  US national centre for environmental prediction, NOAA, University of Maine, and others.  This week's records are probably the warmest In at least 100,000 years according to Woodwell climate research center.  But experts aren't shocked.  Over 97% of top climate scientists accept man-made global warming.  Historically, they tend to be over cautious by under estimating its severity.

    were in trouble maybe even sooner than many predict

    an_eek2

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 12:51 PM ET #654

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: the earth recently recorded the hottest day ever on record globally

     

    @KellyM_1964

    Absolutely true!   Happened last week! Acknowledged virtually everywhere except among the members of the "Flat Earth Society"   

     

      Hottest Recorded Day In Earth's History Is Now A Reality

    MSN - July 4

    According to ScienceAlert, Monday was the hottest day on Earth since the practice of keeping weather records began, clocking in at over 62.6 degrees Fahrenheit (16.2 degrees Celsius) for the first time. Fossil fuels fire off a whopping 40 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere per year, driving up the heat and playing a major part in how the hottest day on record will likely change every year.

    they say its going to get worse this summer    

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: the earth recently recorded the hottest day ever on record globally

     

    @KellyM_1964

    Absolutely true!   Happened last week! Acknowledged virtually everywhere except among the members of the "Flat Earth Society"   

     

      Hottest Recorded Day In Earth's History Is Now A Reality

    MSN - July 4

    According to ScienceAlert, Monday was the hottest day on Earth since the practice of keeping weather records began, clocking in at over 62.6 degrees Fahrenheit (16.2 degrees Celsius) for the first time. Fossil fuels fire off a whopping 40 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere per year, driving up the heat and playing a major part in how the hottest day on record will likely change every year.

    they say its going to get worse this summer    

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 2:03 PM ET #655

    The Spanish Climate Minister took a private jet to a climate conference, then took a motorcade from the airport.  Then 100 meters from the venue she gets out and gets on a bicycle and rides it the last 100 meters to the door while being escorted by her security detail in their limos.

    an_roll_laugh

    If these folks want to pretend to be sincere why do they just not do a Zoom or Skype meeting. peace_5

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    The Spanish Climate Minister took a private jet to a climate conference, then took a motorcade from the airport.  Then 100 meters from the venue she gets out and gets on a bicycle and rides it the last 100 meters to the door while being escorted by her security detail in their limos.

    an_roll_laugh

    If these folks want to pretend to be sincere why do they just not do a Zoom or Skype meeting. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 2:12 PM ET #656

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Earth record breaking temperatures confirmed by several agencies.  US national centre for environmental prediction, NOAA, University of Maine, and others.  This week's records are probably the warmest In at least 100,000 years according to Woodwell climate research center.  But experts aren't shocked.  Over 97% of top climate scientists accept man-made global warming.  Historically, they tend to be over cautious by under estimating its severity. were in trouble maybe even sooner than many predict

    listen , I was at the beach one time with this girl and we were laying out getting some sun and watching the waves when she turned to me and said “ Look , I missed my period and I might be pregnant … “ 

    and not a second later wouldn’t you know it a bird that must have been flying by shit right on her bikini bottoms , and she was laying cooch up , later on that day she got her period , so I’m just saying you never know so …….

    don’t read into things so much sometimes , and more importantly look for a sign …..peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Earth record breaking temperatures confirmed by several agencies.  US national centre for environmental prediction, NOAA, University of Maine, and others.  This week's records are probably the warmest In at least 100,000 years according to Woodwell climate research center.  But experts aren't shocked.  Over 97% of top climate scientists accept man-made global warming.  Historically, they tend to be over cautious by under estimating its severity. were in trouble maybe even sooner than many predict

    listen , I was at the beach one time with this girl and we were laying out getting some sun and watching the waves when she turned to me and said “ Look , I missed my period and I might be pregnant … “ 

    and not a second later wouldn’t you know it a bird that must have been flying by shit right on her bikini bottoms , and she was laying cooch up , later on that day she got her period , so I’m just saying you never know so …….

    don’t read into things so much sometimes , and more importantly look for a sign …..peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 3:36 PM ET #657

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Earth record breaking temperatures confirmed by several agencies.  US national centre for environmental prediction, NOAA, University of Maine, and others.  This week's records are probably the warmest In at least 100,000 years according to Woodwell climate research center.  But experts aren't shocked.  Over 97% of top climate scientists accept man-made global warming.  Historically, they tend to be over cautious by under estimating its severity.

    That, I conclude, is an absolute lie.

    For those cult members who want to believe, believe. an_worship

    For those who seek truth, read on; https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/32197

    The Holocene Climatic Optimum was a very warm period just 8 thousand years ago. Check out the temp graph compared to 2016. 

    Here is another link; https://faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/climate.htm

    The Earth has been ice-free (even at the poles) for most of its history.  However, these iceless periods have been interrupted by several major glaciations (called Glacial Epochs) and we are in one now in the 21st Century.   Each glacial epoch consists of many advances and retreats of ice fields.  These ice fields tend to wax and wane in about 100,000, 41,000 and 21,000 year cycles.  Each advance of ice has been referred to as an "Ice Age" but it is important to realize that these multiple events are just variations of the same glacial epoch.  The retreat of ice during a glacial epoch is called an Inter-Glacial Period and this is our present climate system.

    Don't let bullshit fill your head, educate yourself!!

    And Spockgato, I am sure you have some optimum climaxes to share. an_roll_laugh Your humor does not go unnoticed! 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Earth record breaking temperatures confirmed by several agencies.  US national centre for environmental prediction, NOAA, University of Maine, and others.  This week's records are probably the warmest In at least 100,000 years according to Woodwell climate research center.  But experts aren't shocked.  Over 97% of top climate scientists accept man-made global warming.  Historically, they tend to be over cautious by under estimating its severity.

    That, I conclude, is an absolute lie.

    For those cult members who want to believe, believe. an_worship

    For those who seek truth, read on; https://encyclopedia.pub/entry/32197

    The Holocene Climatic Optimum was a very warm period just 8 thousand years ago. Check out the temp graph compared to 2016. 

    Here is another link; https://faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/climate.htm

    The Earth has been ice-free (even at the poles) for most of its history.  However, these iceless periods have been interrupted by several major glaciations (called Glacial Epochs) and we are in one now in the 21st Century.   Each glacial epoch consists of many advances and retreats of ice fields.  These ice fields tend to wax and wane in about 100,000, 41,000 and 21,000 year cycles.  Each advance of ice has been referred to as an "Ice Age" but it is important to realize that these multiple events are just variations of the same glacial epoch.  The retreat of ice during a glacial epoch is called an Inter-Glacial Period and this is our present climate system.

    Don't let bullshit fill your head, educate yourself!!

    And Spockgato, I am sure you have some optimum climaxes to share. an_roll_laugh Your humor does not go unnoticed! 

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 3:40 PM ET #658

    So, are we assisting global warming? Looks that way.

    Would the earth warm anyways? Sure looks that way.

    Are there those who wish to use this warming as a reason to gain power? Absolutely

    Should we let them? Hell NO!

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    So, are we assisting global warming? Looks that way.

    Would the earth warm anyways? Sure looks that way.

    Are there those who wish to use this warming as a reason to gain power? Absolutely

    Should we let them? Hell NO!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 4:03 PM ET #659

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    The Spanish Climate Minister took a private jet to a climate conference, then took a motorcade from the airport.  Then 100 meters from the venue she gets out and gets on a bicycle and rides it the last 100 meters to the door while being escorted by her security detail in their limos. If these folks want to pretend to be sincere why do they just not do a Zoom or Skype meeting.

    We see that everyday. It's Code RED!!!! an_getaway Oh, look UCLA and USC are now traveling across country to BIG10. Good thing they're regulating those pizza ovens and gas stoves!!

    And China now up to about two new coal fired plants a week, good thing we're banning those gas powered chainsaws!!!

    Amazing how stupid the human race really is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    The Spanish Climate Minister took a private jet to a climate conference, then took a motorcade from the airport.  Then 100 meters from the venue she gets out and gets on a bicycle and rides it the last 100 meters to the door while being escorted by her security detail in their limos. If these folks want to pretend to be sincere why do they just not do a Zoom or Skype meeting.

    We see that everyday. It's Code RED!!!! an_getaway Oh, look UCLA and USC are now traveling across country to BIG10. Good thing they're regulating those pizza ovens and gas stoves!!

    And China now up to about two new coal fired plants a week, good thing we're banning those gas powered chainsaws!!!

    Amazing how stupid the human race really is.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 4:09 PM ET #660

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    The Spanish Climate Minister took a private jet to a climate conference, then took a motorcade from the airport.  Then 100 meters from the venue she gets out and gets on a bicycle and rides it the last 100 meters to the door while being escorted by her security detail in their limos. If these folks want to pretend to be sincere why do they just not do a Zoom or Skype meeting.

    It was an electric bicycle, she doesn't peddle it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    The Spanish Climate Minister took a private jet to a climate conference, then took a motorcade from the airport.  Then 100 meters from the venue she gets out and gets on a bicycle and rides it the last 100 meters to the door while being escorted by her security detail in their limos. If these folks want to pretend to be sincere why do they just not do a Zoom or Skype meeting.

    It was an electric bicycle, she doesn't peddle it seems.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 4:14 PM ET #661

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: The Spanish Climate Minister took a private jet to a climate conference, then took a motorcade from the airport.  Then 100 meters from the venue she gets out and gets on a bicycle and rides it the last 100 meters to the door while being escorted by her security detail in their limos. If these folks want to pretend to be sincere why do they just not do a Zoom or Skype meeting. It was an electric bicycle, she doesn't peddle it seems.

    She was peddling.  Looked awkward though...peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: The Spanish Climate Minister took a private jet to a climate conference, then took a motorcade from the airport.  Then 100 meters from the venue she gets out and gets on a bicycle and rides it the last 100 meters to the door while being escorted by her security detail in their limos. If these folks want to pretend to be sincere why do they just not do a Zoom or Skype meeting. It was an electric bicycle, she doesn't peddle it seems.

    She was peddling.  Looked awkward though...peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2023 - 5:33 PM ET #662

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     Yeah, I just read she used an electric bike.

    This chart right here is telling. Reminds me of Great Lakes level charts over 112 years. Normal swings, this one over 1 million years; https://faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/jpg/World%20Climate-2.jpg

    And this one over last thousand years; https://faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/jpg/World%20Climate-4.jpg

    And lastly, over 10 thousand years; https://faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/jpg/World%20Climate-3.jpg

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     Yeah, I just read she used an electric bike.

    This chart right here is telling. Reminds me of Great Lakes level charts over 112 years. Normal swings, this one over 1 million years; https://faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/jpg/World%20Climate-2.jpg

    And this one over last thousand years; https://faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/jpg/World%20Climate-4.jpg

    And lastly, over 10 thousand years; https://faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/bronze/jpg/World%20Climate-3.jpg

     
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     Oh, it may have been the combo thing.  peace_5

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     Oh, it may have been the combo thing.  peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: the earth recently recorded the hottest day ever on record globally

    @KellyM_1964

    True! peace_5  Last week! Acknowledged virtually everywhere except among the members of the "Flat Earth Society"

     

    STUNNING: Earth reaches hottest day ever recorded, 4 days in a row!!!


    ABC NEWS -

    For 4 days in a row, the planet reached its hottest day ever recorded as regions all over the world endure dangerous heat.an_lightening

    The record was first set on Monday, eclipsed on Tuesday, and tied on Wednesday.


    an_light That record was broken on Thursday as global temperatures climbed to 17.23 degrees Celsius, or 63.01 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the NCEP.                                                         an_speechless

    @fubah2    thx for backing up my statement with the facts as widely reported peace_5

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: the earth recently recorded the hottest day ever on record globally

    @KellyM_1964

    True! peace_5  Last week! Acknowledged virtually everywhere except among the members of the "Flat Earth Society"

     

    STUNNING: Earth reaches hottest day ever recorded, 4 days in a row!!!


    ABC NEWS -

    For 4 days in a row, the planet reached its hottest day ever recorded as regions all over the world endure dangerous heat.an_lightening

    The record was first set on Monday, eclipsed on Tuesday, and tied on Wednesday.


    an_light That record was broken on Thursday as global temperatures climbed to 17.23 degrees Celsius, or 63.01 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the NCEP.                                                         an_speechless

    @fubah2    thx for backing up my statement with the facts as widely reported peace_5

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    The Holocene Climatic Optimum was a very warm period just 8 thousand years ago.

     

    Now scientists are confident that recent temperatures are higher than 6000 to 12,000 years ago.  Temperature estimates of Holoscene era have been revised according to Rutgers institute study published in Nature journal.  Apparently, man-made global warming works far faster than natural causes.  United nations IPCC confirms that global temperatures have been increasing since the last ice age, some 125,000 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    The Holocene Climatic Optimum was a very warm period just 8 thousand years ago.

     

    Now scientists are confident that recent temperatures are higher than 6000 to 12,000 years ago.  Temperature estimates of Holoscene era have been revised according to Rutgers institute study published in Nature journal.  Apparently, man-made global warming works far faster than natural causes.  United nations IPCC confirms that global temperatures have been increasing since the last ice age, some 125,000 years ago.

     
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    Of course they have been revised. an_roll_laugh

     

    We'll change scientific history to fit our narative. Can't have folks pointing out the obvious. 

     

    Love Weather.com

    Here's one for ya, look at all those high temps recorded!!! https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2022-06-21-hottest-temperature-state-records-us

    OH MY GOD, WE ARE ALL DOOMED TO FRY LIKE EGGS ON THE PAVEMENT!!! This article has me thinking HOT, HOT, HOT!!!!!!

    Wait a minute, click on that link in the paragraph, https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/scec/records/all/tmax

    See Alabama's record was way back in 1925, Alaska 1915, my home state of Michigan 1936, and many more. 

    So let us break this down in 20yr periods. an_light

    -1880-1899---- 3 state records recorded

    -1900-1919--- 9 states, 2 more than once

    -1920-1939--- 23 states have new records, a few more had tied previous records. 

    -1940-1959---  3 states, 1 tied previous record

    -1960-1979---  2 states with new records

    1980-1999---  4 states with new records, 4 states tied previous records

    2000- present--- 3 states set new records, 3 states tie previous records an_lightan_lightan_light

     

     

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    Of course they have been revised. an_roll_laugh

     

    We'll change scientific history to fit our narative. Can't have folks pointing out the obvious. 

     

    Love Weather.com

    Here's one for ya, look at all those high temps recorded!!! https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2022-06-21-hottest-temperature-state-records-us

    OH MY GOD, WE ARE ALL DOOMED TO FRY LIKE EGGS ON THE PAVEMENT!!! This article has me thinking HOT, HOT, HOT!!!!!!

    Wait a minute, click on that link in the paragraph, https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/scec/records/all/tmax

    See Alabama's record was way back in 1925, Alaska 1915, my home state of Michigan 1936, and many more. 

    So let us break this down in 20yr periods. an_light

    -1880-1899---- 3 state records recorded

    -1900-1919--- 9 states, 2 more than once

    -1920-1939--- 23 states have new records, a few more had tied previous records. 

    -1940-1959---  3 states, 1 tied previous record

    -1960-1979---  2 states with new records

    1980-1999---  4 states with new records, 4 states tied previous records

    2000- present--- 3 states set new records, 3 states tie previous records an_lightan_lightan_light

     

     

     
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    So from 1980 to present 7 state high temps recorded and 7 states tied previous high temps.

    If you change the chart to record lows there are from 1980 to present 11 states with record lows set and 2 that tied previous lows.

    No wonder they changed the title from Global Warming to Climate Change.

    Looks like there is more revising to do!

     

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    So from 1980 to present 7 state high temps recorded and 7 states tied previous high temps.

    If you change the chart to record lows there are from 1980 to present 11 states with record lows set and 2 that tied previous lows.

    No wonder they changed the title from Global Warming to Climate Change.

    Looks like there is more revising to do!

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: The Holocene Climatic Optimum was a very warm period just 8 thousand years ago.   Now scientists are confident that recent temperatures are higher than 6000 to 12,000 years ago.  Temperature estimates of Holoscene era have been revised according to Rutgers institute study published in Nature journal.  Apparently, man-made global warming works far faster than natural causes.  United nations IPCC confirms that global temperatures have been increasing since the last ice age, some 125,000 years ago.

    You need to re-read the IPCC report and better comprehend what they are spewing. The last iceage was 20,000 yrs ago, not 125,000 yrs. They are downplaying the Holocene Optimum to make the present look worse than it is. They then reference the next warmest period, 125,000 yrs ago and say that pretty much matches temps seen from 2011-19. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: The Holocene Climatic Optimum was a very warm period just 8 thousand years ago.   Now scientists are confident that recent temperatures are higher than 6000 to 12,000 years ago.  Temperature estimates of Holoscene era have been revised according to Rutgers institute study published in Nature journal.  Apparently, man-made global warming works far faster than natural causes.  United nations IPCC confirms that global temperatures have been increasing since the last ice age, some 125,000 years ago.

    You need to re-read the IPCC report and better comprehend what they are spewing. The last iceage was 20,000 yrs ago, not 125,000 yrs. They are downplaying the Holocene Optimum to make the present look worse than it is. They then reference the next warmest period, 125,000 yrs ago and say that pretty much matches temps seen from 2011-19. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Of course they have been revised.    We'll change scientific history to fit our narative.

    To improve accuracy, scientists revise old data to account for errors.  Science evolves as new evidences are discovered.  Global warming and climate change are two different things.  Global warming refers to the rise in temperatures due to increasing greenhouse gases in atmosphere.  Whereas climate change refers to increasing changes in measurements of climate such as precipitation, wind and temperature. For example, heat evaporates more water which increases risk of severe rainfall or snowfall if temperature is cold enough.

    Although last ice age ended 20,000 years ago, scientists say the Earth has not been this warm since before the last ice age which lasted over 100,000 years.  That is why they are right about hottest temperatures in 120,000 years.  But if carbon emissions aren't reduced, future risk of hottest temperatures in a million years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Of course they have been revised.    We'll change scientific history to fit our narative.

    To improve accuracy, scientists revise old data to account for errors.  Science evolves as new evidences are discovered.  Global warming and climate change are two different things.  Global warming refers to the rise in temperatures due to increasing greenhouse gases in atmosphere.  Whereas climate change refers to increasing changes in measurements of climate such as precipitation, wind and temperature. For example, heat evaporates more water which increases risk of severe rainfall or snowfall if temperature is cold enough.

    Although last ice age ended 20,000 years ago, scientists say the Earth has not been this warm since before the last ice age which lasted over 100,000 years.  That is why they are right about hottest temperatures in 120,000 years.  But if carbon emissions aren't reduced, future risk of hottest temperatures in a million years.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 23, 2023 - 2:16 AM ET #670

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: The Holocene Climatic Optimum was a very warm period just 8 thousand years ago.  

     

    Now scientists are confident that recent temperatures are higher than 6000 to 12,000 years ago.  Temperature estimates of Holoscene era have been revised according to Rutgers institute study published in Nature journal.  Apparently, man-made global warming works far faster than natural causes.  United nations IPCC confirms that global temperatures have been increasing since the last ice age, some 125,000 years ago.

    fact  peace_5

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: The Holocene Climatic Optimum was a very warm period just 8 thousand years ago.  

     

    Now scientists are confident that recent temperatures are higher than 6000 to 12,000 years ago.  Temperature estimates of Holoscene era have been revised according to Rutgers institute study published in Nature journal.  Apparently, man-made global warming works far faster than natural causes.  United nations IPCC confirms that global temperatures have been increasing since the last ice age, some 125,000 years ago.

    fact  peace_5

     

     

     

     
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    For years, mostly right wing media has downplayed dangers of extreme heat.  When people are dissuaded from taking safety precautions, more lives can be put at risk.  But heat is a silent killer responsible for more deaths than all weather disasters combined according to National weather service.  Apparently, humans can adapt to cold better than heat.  Many homes have furnaces but fewer have air conditioners. 

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    For years, mostly right wing media has downplayed dangers of extreme heat.  When people are dissuaded from taking safety precautions, more lives can be put at risk.  But heat is a silent killer responsible for more deaths than all weather disasters combined according to National weather service.  Apparently, humans can adapt to cold better than heat.  Many homes have furnaces but fewer have air conditioners. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    For years, mostly right wing media has downplayed dangers of extreme heat.  When people are dissuaded from taking safety precautions, more lives can be put at risk.  But heat is a silent killer responsible for more deaths than all weather disasters combined according to National weather service.  Apparently, humans can adapt to cold better than heat.  Many homes have furnaces but fewer have air conditioners.

    I do not expect you to reply, because you never replied back to any of my points in the other Global Warming threads.  You simply abandoned the threads.

    But give me an example of where the dangers of excessive heat has been downplayed.  They are, if anything, overplayed by all media when, especially when it warms up.  That is all you hear about is how dangerous the heat is.

    This is all science and all about learning from mistakes and correcting misconceptions.

    For example NOAA will say more deaths are from heat while the CDC will say more deaths are from cold.

    Heat is not responsible for more deaths.  Yes, as it gets warmer more folks die from heat and fewer from cold but still more die from heat.

    For example, from various places:

    "The study found more people had died of cold than heat over the two-decade period."

     

    "I can see why one can argue that winter (or cold-related) mortality is greater.” That was certainly the conclusion of a 2015 epidemiological study of deaths in 13 countries in The Lancet, which found that cold-related deaths in the U.S. were about a factor of fifteen higher than heat-related deaths. Cold deaths outnumbered heat deaths by a factor of twenty when averaged over all 13 countries studied."

     

    "Despite the fact that the climate has warmed in the U.S. in recent decades (by 1.3°F to 1.9°F since 1895, with much of that increase occurring since 1970), the study found that the death rate due to heat has been decreasing, due to adaptation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    For years, mostly right wing media has downplayed dangers of extreme heat.  When people are dissuaded from taking safety precautions, more lives can be put at risk.  But heat is a silent killer responsible for more deaths than all weather disasters combined according to National weather service.  Apparently, humans can adapt to cold better than heat.  Many homes have furnaces but fewer have air conditioners.

    I do not expect you to reply, because you never replied back to any of my points in the other Global Warming threads.  You simply abandoned the threads.

    But give me an example of where the dangers of excessive heat has been downplayed.  They are, if anything, overplayed by all media when, especially when it warms up.  That is all you hear about is how dangerous the heat is.

    This is all science and all about learning from mistakes and correcting misconceptions.

    For example NOAA will say more deaths are from heat while the CDC will say more deaths are from cold.

    Heat is not responsible for more deaths.  Yes, as it gets warmer more folks die from heat and fewer from cold but still more die from heat.

    For example, from various places:

    "The study found more people had died of cold than heat over the two-decade period."

     

    "I can see why one can argue that winter (or cold-related) mortality is greater.” That was certainly the conclusion of a 2015 epidemiological study of deaths in 13 countries in The Lancet, which found that cold-related deaths in the U.S. were about a factor of fifteen higher than heat-related deaths. Cold deaths outnumbered heat deaths by a factor of twenty when averaged over all 13 countries studied."

     

    "Despite the fact that the climate has warmed in the U.S. in recent decades (by 1.3°F to 1.9°F since 1895, with much of that increase occurring since 1970), the study found that the death rate due to heat has been decreasing, due to adaptation."

     
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    "With the number of extreme weather days rising around the globe in recent years due to global warming, it is no surprise that there has been an upward trend in hospital visits and admissions for injuries caused by high heat over the last several years. But cold temperatures are responsible for almost all temperature-related deaths, according to a new study published in the journal Environmental Research.

    According to the new study by researchers at the University of Illinois Chicago, patients who died because of cold temperatures were responsible for 94% of temperature-related deaths, even though hypothermia was responsible for only 27% of temperature-related hospital visits.

    "With the decrease in the number of cold weather days over the last several decades, we still see more deaths due to cold weather as opposed to hot weather," said Lee Friedman, associate professor of environmental and occupational health sciences in the UIC School of Public Health and corresponding author on the paper. "This is in part due to the body's poorer ability to thermoregulate once hypothermia sets in, as well as since there are fewer cold weather days overall, people don't have time to acclimate to cold when those rarer cold days do occur."

    Hypothermia, or a drop in the body's core temperature, doesn't require sub-arctic temps. Even mildly cool temperatures can initiate hypothermia, defined as a drop in body temperature from the normal 98.7 degrees to 95 degrees Fahrenheit. When this occurs, organs and systems begin to shut down in an effort to preserve the brain. The process, once started, can be very difficult to get under control; however, people who are more regularly exposed to lower temperatures are better able to resist hypothermia.

    "People who were experiencing homelessness in the records we looked at were less likely to die from temperature-related injury," Friedman said. "Because they have greater outdoor exposure, they acclimate better to both heat and cold."

    Heat-related issues are more likely to self-resolve by getting to a cooler place or by hydrating, Friedman said.

    The researchers looked at inpatient and outpatient heat- and cold-related injuries that required a hospital visit in Illinois between 2011 and 2018. They identified 23,834 cold-related cases and 24,233 heat-related cases. Among these patients, there were 1,935 cold-related deaths and 70 heat-related deaths."

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    "With the number of extreme weather days rising around the globe in recent years due to global warming, it is no surprise that there has been an upward trend in hospital visits and admissions for injuries caused by high heat over the last several years. But cold temperatures are responsible for almost all temperature-related deaths, according to a new study published in the journal Environmental Research.

    According to the new study by researchers at the University of Illinois Chicago, patients who died because of cold temperatures were responsible for 94% of temperature-related deaths, even though hypothermia was responsible for only 27% of temperature-related hospital visits.

    "With the decrease in the number of cold weather days over the last several decades, we still see more deaths due to cold weather as opposed to hot weather," said Lee Friedman, associate professor of environmental and occupational health sciences in the UIC School of Public Health and corresponding author on the paper. "This is in part due to the body's poorer ability to thermoregulate once hypothermia sets in, as well as since there are fewer cold weather days overall, people don't have time to acclimate to cold when those rarer cold days do occur."

    Hypothermia, or a drop in the body's core temperature, doesn't require sub-arctic temps. Even mildly cool temperatures can initiate hypothermia, defined as a drop in body temperature from the normal 98.7 degrees to 95 degrees Fahrenheit. When this occurs, organs and systems begin to shut down in an effort to preserve the brain. The process, once started, can be very difficult to get under control; however, people who are more regularly exposed to lower temperatures are better able to resist hypothermia.

    "People who were experiencing homelessness in the records we looked at were less likely to die from temperature-related injury," Friedman said. "Because they have greater outdoor exposure, they acclimate better to both heat and cold."

    Heat-related issues are more likely to self-resolve by getting to a cooler place or by hydrating, Friedman said.

    The researchers looked at inpatient and outpatient heat- and cold-related injuries that required a hospital visit in Illinois between 2011 and 2018. They identified 23,834 cold-related cases and 24,233 heat-related cases. Among these patients, there were 1,935 cold-related deaths and 70 heat-related deaths."

     
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    So, you have to factor in more than just whether it is hot or cold and/or if it is excessive or not.

    The human body obviously does not like any extreme weather but can handle the heat better.  

    You cannot simply read what the news is saying, especially at the time it is occurring.  When it is hot, they talk about the dangers of heat; when it is cold, the same; when a flood happens, a tornado, etc.

    You have to look at longterm numbers and trends, etc. as a whole to get a clearer picture.

    But no one downplays anything in the media -- if anything they overplay it.

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    So, you have to factor in more than just whether it is hot or cold and/or if it is excessive or not.

    The human body obviously does not like any extreme weather but can handle the heat better.  

    You cannot simply read what the news is saying, especially at the time it is occurring.  When it is hot, they talk about the dangers of heat; when it is cold, the same; when a flood happens, a tornado, etc.

    You have to look at longterm numbers and trends, etc. as a whole to get a clearer picture.

    But no one downplays anything in the media -- if anything they overplay it.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    For years, mostly right wing media has downplayed dangers of extreme heat.  When people are dissuaded from taking safety precautions, more lives can be put at risk.  But heat is a silent killer responsible for more deaths than all weather disasters combined according to National weather service.  Apparently, humans can adapt to cold better than heat.  Many homes have furnaces but fewer have air conditioners.

    Exactly! 

    an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    For years, mostly right wing media has downplayed dangers of extreme heat.  When people are dissuaded from taking safety precautions, more lives can be put at risk.  But heat is a silent killer responsible for more deaths than all weather disasters combined according to National weather service.  Apparently, humans can adapt to cold better than heat.  Many homes have furnaces but fewer have air conditioners.

    Exactly! 

    an_cheers

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