Multiple people wrote them. It is not just one document that is being questioned. So it is not hard at all to prove what was written and communicated. I think they will have to make a case to go to the courts now, or for sure, have hearings on it. It is just a bad look all around. Most really do not want to think this could have happened the way it looks to have happened. Most really do not want to put a former administration and President through this. This has always been the case in situations like this in the past. Even though there is the idea the media would be more sympathetic to a Democratic administration. A lot of folks think what is done is done and move on. But others say it would certainly set a bad precedent if you do simply move on. The problem in this situation is that the more that comes out the more there will be a push from the folks to do something. Then the media will have to be more open to covering it. Etc., etc.
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Multiple people wrote them. It is not just one document that is being questioned. So it is not hard at all to prove what was written and communicated. I think they will have to make a case to go to the courts now, or for sure, have hearings on it. It is just a bad look all around. Most really do not want to think this could have happened the way it looks to have happened. Most really do not want to put a former administration and President through this. This has always been the case in situations like this in the past. Even though there is the idea the media would be more sympathetic to a Democratic administration. A lot of folks think what is done is done and move on. But others say it would certainly set a bad precedent if you do simply move on. The problem in this situation is that the more that comes out the more there will be a push from the folks to do something. Then the media will have to be more open to covering it. Etc., etc.
[Quote: Originally Posted by Raiders22]@nature1970 Enough of his party.... There have been times in the distant past ..."""". Where are the conspirators Don't tell me Barry did this all by himself .... I like to see one of Obama's cabinet members verify this not the trash in 1600 Penn Ave but of 3 previous administrations ago. If Brennan spoke on this that I would consider proof. Or if Gates did what about comie or any of the former FBI CIA or NSA deputy Secretaries is there any member that served in the Obama administration that can verify this on a Sunday morning or evening interview broadcast . Because no I do not believe Trump or any member of his cabinet. They will do anything their boss asks it how they keep their job....
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Raiders22]@nature1970 Enough of his party.... There have been times in the distant past ..."""". Where are the conspirators Don't tell me Barry did this all by himself .... I like to see one of Obama's cabinet members verify this not the trash in 1600 Penn Ave but of 3 previous administrations ago. If Brennan spoke on this that I would consider proof. Or if Gates did what about comie or any of the former FBI CIA or NSA deputy Secretaries is there any member that served in the Obama administration that can verify this on a Sunday morning or evening interview broadcast . Because no I do not believe Trump or any member of his cabinet. They will do anything their boss asks it how they keep their job....
@nature1970 Multiple people wrote them. It is not just one document that is being questioned.So it is not hard at all to prove what was written and communicated. I think they will have to make a case to go to the courts now, or for sure, have hearings on it. It is just a bad look all around. Most really do not want to think this could have happened the way it looks to have happened. Most really do not want to put a former administration and President through this. This has always been the case in situations like this in the past. Even though there is the idea the media would be more sympathetic to a Democratic administration. A lot of folks think what is done is done and move on. But others say it would certainly set a bad precedent if you do simply move on. The problem in this situation is that the more that comes out the more there will be a push from the folks to do something. Then the media will have to be more open to covering it. Etc., etc.
See it doesn't make sense to me that if this was done this way, that document would be filed.... Not sure how else to put this... But no not buying that spin off to deflect from Trump not releasing the Epstein files... It not me he did this act is thin and with trump fabricated stories are part of his charm...
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@nature1970 Multiple people wrote them. It is not just one document that is being questioned.So it is not hard at all to prove what was written and communicated. I think they will have to make a case to go to the courts now, or for sure, have hearings on it. It is just a bad look all around. Most really do not want to think this could have happened the way it looks to have happened. Most really do not want to put a former administration and President through this. This has always been the case in situations like this in the past. Even though there is the idea the media would be more sympathetic to a Democratic administration. A lot of folks think what is done is done and move on. But others say it would certainly set a bad precedent if you do simply move on. The problem in this situation is that the more that comes out the more there will be a push from the folks to do something. Then the media will have to be more open to covering it. Etc., etc.
See it doesn't make sense to me that if this was done this way, that document would be filed.... Not sure how else to put this... But no not buying that spin off to deflect from Trump not releasing the Epstein files... It not me he did this act is thin and with trump fabricated stories are part of his charm...
You remember Bush administration that went to war on false reports.... Weapons of mass destruction, chemical nuclear biological Saddam had right? These people engineer documents and classified files on a daily basis.... Or McCain " the principal of the economy is sound.... Or even Obama, " Americans don't want the truth they want a story" , this is what has been done in a city of secrets for over 100 years.... And Trump is no different.
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You remember Bush administration that went to war on false reports.... Weapons of mass destruction, chemical nuclear biological Saddam had right? These people engineer documents and classified files on a daily basis.... Or McCain " the principal of the economy is sound.... Or even Obama, " Americans don't want the truth they want a story" , this is what has been done in a city of secrets for over 100 years.... And Trump is no different.
As far as Trump collusion with Russia I didn't buy that story then I won't now Putin wants nothing to do with the man's schemes.
He never did, there is still no trump tower in Moscow....
Did Putin despise Clinton yes he most certainly did and she was replaced by Kerry who Putin allowed to have an apartment in Moscow while at embassy.
But I don't believe a word that comes from his administration faces, case in point...th signal chat server... Didn't we just go through not using public communication to release troop plane and attack movement, asked herself on camera he lied, then they went to the post fabricated the whole thing and the owner came forward with the recording and then went to we won't do that again.....
Same bag of tricks here
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As far as Trump collusion with Russia I didn't buy that story then I won't now Putin wants nothing to do with the man's schemes.
He never did, there is still no trump tower in Moscow....
Did Putin despise Clinton yes he most certainly did and she was replaced by Kerry who Putin allowed to have an apartment in Moscow while at embassy.
But I don't believe a word that comes from his administration faces, case in point...th signal chat server... Didn't we just go through not using public communication to release troop plane and attack movement, asked herself on camera he lied, then they went to the post fabricated the whole thing and the owner came forward with the recording and then went to we won't do that again.....
Yeah. I think that is a copout by a lot of folks. These are two very separate issues. To be honest I do not think Trump cares about one of them at all. The other one he may care a bit more about just because it would prove him right, yet again. But overall, he simply seems way more focused on moving the country forward on the things he campaigned on. I do think a younger Trump would absolutely pursue it. I wish he had been more focused with a better surrounding group the first go-around.
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Yeah. I think that is a copout by a lot of folks. These are two very separate issues. To be honest I do not think Trump cares about one of them at all. The other one he may care a bit more about just because it would prove him right, yet again. But overall, he simply seems way more focused on moving the country forward on the things he campaigned on. I do think a younger Trump would absolutely pursue it. I wish he had been more focused with a better surrounding group the first go-around.
As far as Trump collusion with Russia I didn't buy that story then I won't now Putin wants nothing to do with the man's schemes.
Yeah, I do not think many folks did. But the ones that ‘wanted’ it to be true forced it on enough folks to keep it going. All folks had to do is look at the way Trump handled them the first administration to see that was not the case.
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As far as Trump collusion with Russia I didn't buy that story then I won't now Putin wants nothing to do with the man's schemes.
Yeah, I do not think many folks did. But the ones that ‘wanted’ it to be true forced it on enough folks to keep it going. All folks had to do is look at the way Trump handled them the first administration to see that was not the case.
You remember Bush administration that went to war on false reports.... Weapons of mass destruction, chemical nuclear biological Saddam had right? These people engineer documents and classified files on a daily basis.... Or McCain " the principal of the economy is sound.... Or even Obama, " Americans don't want the truth they want a story" , this is what has been done in a city of secrets for over 100 years.... And Trump is no different.
Like I always say, even in basketball you cannot pump fake at the free throw line. If you do, they simply take the ball from you. Sadaam could only posture so long and not allow complete inspection for so long. People actually tend to start to believe you if you do that long enough.
So, those are completely different issues with correspondingly different types of reports and/substantiating documentation, etc.
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You remember Bush administration that went to war on false reports.... Weapons of mass destruction, chemical nuclear biological Saddam had right? These people engineer documents and classified files on a daily basis.... Or McCain " the principal of the economy is sound.... Or even Obama, " Americans don't want the truth they want a story" , this is what has been done in a city of secrets for over 100 years.... And Trump is no different.
Like I always say, even in basketball you cannot pump fake at the free throw line. If you do, they simply take the ball from you. Sadaam could only posture so long and not allow complete inspection for so long. People actually tend to start to believe you if you do that long enough.
So, those are completely different issues with correspondingly different types of reports and/substantiating documentation, etc.
Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Chess is being played while dems play checkers...... lmfaooooooooooo still living in the past with silly maga lines like that. Magas really are a strange group. Sorry to burst your bubble, trump wouldnt even know how to play checkers, let alone try to play chess. Gotta laugh at people thinking trump is a smart person lollllll. Orange clown has a 75 word vocabulary at best. Never seen anybody in my life repeat the same words in 1 sentence as trump does. Its because his words are limited.
LOL, poor libs......they supported the dumb sonofabitch Biden......'nuff said.
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Chess is being played while dems play checkers...... lmfaooooooooooo still living in the past with silly maga lines like that. Magas really are a strange group. Sorry to burst your bubble, trump wouldnt even know how to play checkers, let alone try to play chess. Gotta laugh at people thinking trump is a smart person lollllll. Orange clown has a 75 word vocabulary at best. Never seen anybody in my life repeat the same words in 1 sentence as trump does. Its because his words are limited.
LOL, poor libs......they supported the dumb sonofabitch Biden......'nuff said.
@nature1970 I agree. I doubt it was all him. Maybe big influence on the final say for sure though.
What was done by Obama's administration was the bengazi story, had Susan rice parade around every Sunday morning news program. It was a protest against a film made in Hollywood. Except the film was never made.
This story rang through the UN DC and the world....
This was a complete fabrication. Truth was the administration is dirty in this exact case. First Obama and Susan Rice spending the evening in Vegas and Obama acting like the media and Republicans were attacking his wife when the lies were exposed.
Why doesn't his administration do a public service and release those files.... Or dig further back when Billy ordered the burning of 70 plus children in Waco Texas and the helicopter ordered to return without dropping the fire retardant that day.... How about these documents.... Because the Russian nothing burger is lame at best.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@nature1970 I agree. I doubt it was all him. Maybe big influence on the final say for sure though.
What was done by Obama's administration was the bengazi story, had Susan rice parade around every Sunday morning news program. It was a protest against a film made in Hollywood. Except the film was never made.
This story rang through the UN DC and the world....
This was a complete fabrication. Truth was the administration is dirty in this exact case. First Obama and Susan Rice spending the evening in Vegas and Obama acting like the media and Republicans were attacking his wife when the lies were exposed.
Why doesn't his administration do a public service and release those files.... Or dig further back when Billy ordered the burning of 70 plus children in Waco Texas and the helicopter ordered to return without dropping the fire retardant that day.... How about these documents.... Because the Russian nothing burger is lame at best.
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