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Do you think Motorcycles riders should be forced by law to wear helmets in all 50 states?

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dl36

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2014 - 7:37 PM ET #76

Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

Bowl -- I am not making light of your personal experience in any way. I am sure you realize this but just wanted to get that out there.

I am making light of using a few personal experiences to generalize a topic. We all know people / scenarios that have worked out and have gone against the grain.

I agree with your formula in that specific scenario. But that does not take into account the times when injuries were avoided and lives were saved simply by wearing a helmet. I do not know the numbers on this (and truthfully do not care enough to look into it) but I assume that there are many many scenarios where a helmet saved injury and lives and also significantly reduced insurance costs. It is not always one or the other.

Way to complex to apply a simplistic formula.

I stand by my original opinion. Decide as you wish to not wear a helmet. But if you decide to make a dangerous decision than that should be factored in when dealing with the insurance companies.

How you made light of the overly simplistic manner in which how he thinks went right over his head....

makes you wonder how someone can be so dense

bowlslit

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2014 - 11:49 PM ET #77

Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

Bowl -- I am not making light of your personal experience in any way. I am sure you realize this but just wanted to get that out there.

I am making light of using a few personal experiences to generalize a topic. We all know people / scenarios that have worked out and have gone against the grain.

Way to complex to apply a simplistic formula.

I stand by my original opinion. Decide as you wish to not wear a helmet. But if you decide to make a dangerous decision than that should be factored in when dealing with the insurance companies.

It is very complex. And I'm sure you're quite aware that helmets only cover a persons head and quite often in motorcycle accidents several other bones are broken below the helmet that cause insurance payments to be made.

On the flip side, I realize that there are many incidents where the helmet less rider lived through the crash and spent time in ICU with severe head trauma.

mattbrot

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Posted: Oct. 29, 2014 - 10:06 AM ET #78

Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:

It is very complex. And I'm sure you're quite aware that helmets only cover a persons head and quite often in motorcycle accidents several other bones are broken below the helmet that cause insurance payments to be made.

On the flip side, I realize that there are many incidents where the helmet less rider lived through the crash and spent time in ICU with severe head trauma.

Bowl -- I am assuming that the conversation, when it comes to insurance, is about head related injuries and not broken bones. Broken bones have an equal chance regardless of helmet or not. So that factor is normalized between the two scenarios.

bowlslit

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Posted: Oct. 30, 2014 - 12:02 AM ET #79

Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

Actually...I guess my main point for this whole argument is that broken bones don't need to be fixed if the rider is pronounced dead at the scene of the accident or shortly thereafter.

dl36

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Posted: Oct. 30, 2014 - 4:38 AM ET #80

Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

Wow.

This might be the absolute dumbest argument I have ever heard on covers.

Lack of helmet laws lead to lower insurance rates because of more deaths.

I hope your children's mother is educated.

Ive seen dumber by this poster

bowlslit

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Posted: Oct. 30, 2014 - 3:44 PM ET #81

Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

Ive seen dumber by this poster

Must be a piss poor existence...trolling covers political forums trying to start shlt with conservatives...your political opposites.

dl36

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Posted: Oct. 30, 2014 - 5:18 PM ET #82

u mad bro?

what are you even talking about?

and once again thanks for proving my point... what you just posted was dumber...

Keep up the good work... cant do it with out you

bowlslit

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Posted: Nov. 6, 2014 - 5:10 PM ET #83

Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

yeah research, facts, statistics, reality usually aren't skewed in your favor.

glad you recognize that

Were you just trolling me again?

Interesting how if you don't try to troll me I don't even say a word to you.....usually.

dl36

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Posted: Nov. 6, 2014 - 5:49 PM ET #84

no simply points out fact... and once again they are not skewed in your favor

joe pockets

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Posted: Dec. 26, 2024 - 12:15 PM ET #85

@SarasotaSlim

peace_5 We agree on freedom of choice! South Carolina seems to no problem and those over the border in North Carolina many pull over on Rt17 past Calabash and take there’s off!