Posted:
#51
If only there was a choice other than HRC or Trump......If only there was a third party candidate......
Did Trump just insinuate that?
Posted:
#52
Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:
DJ, should you find anything that I have ever written on this entire site that shows me touting any far-right policy, then I will consider you the victor in this little debate.
Most of what I've written in the Politic forum is anti-HRC, and not a single word of it has been debunked by any of the liberals here.
The best argument anyone seems to have for HRC is to attack Trump.
You, as most everyone else who discusses politics, are biased.
This is not an insult, so please don't get defensive/aggressive in response.
I am not a registered Republican.
I look at every political issue from my own perspective, and individually.
I do not tow any party line.
I am conservative regarding fiscal matters.
I am left of center on social issues.
I watch some FOX News, some CNN, and some MSNBC.
My internet reading are similarly diverse, actually more-so.
My friends, mostly conservatives, swear I'm a liberal.
I believe that Donald Trump is an obnoxious, arrogant, narcissistic twit.
But I still have trouble believing that this country is better off with HRC as POTUS.
For a brief period of time I toyed with the idea of giving my vote to Trump, for no other reason than I was on the 'anyone but Hillary' bandwagon.
As things have developed, I have made my decision to not vote for either candidate. (I do not consider Johnson a candidate, and any vote for him is the equivalent of no vote at all)
Does any of this sound like it's coming from a person who "advocates any far right wing position"?
This will be the last word I will type in my attempt to explain myself (i can already hear the "thank God's!) ...
Covers very own resident racist has the ability to read another persons words and draw conclusions which are far removed from the point those words were attempting to make.
PLEASE DON'T BE LIKE SCAL!!!
James Carville:
"We have nothing to say."
Posted:
#54
Dl and Ktrain,
As I wrote in post #50, any vote for Johnson is the same as no vote at all.
Suggesting a vote for any 3rd party candidate has value is akin to a vote for the porn actress Mary Carey, who ran for Gov of California a few years back.
Both are wasted votes.
Personally, I will not vote this November, as I see no one, including the 'can't-win-candidate' Johnson, as being worthy of my support.
It is a very sad time in American politics 
bigreds daddy
Posted:
#55
Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:
Dl and Ktrain,
Dl and Ktrain,
As I wrote in post #50, any vote for Johnson is the same as no vote at all.
Suggesting a vote for any 3rd party candidate has value is akin to a vote for the porn actress Mary Carey, who ran for Gov of California a few years back.
Both are wasted votes.
Personally, I will not vote this November, as I see no one, including the 'can't-win-candidate' Johnson, as being worthy of my support.
It is a very sad time in American politics
If you don't want to vote for Gary Johnson based on your disbelief in what he stands for, then that's ok by me.
If you don't want to vote for him because you think it's a wasted vote, well that's where we have a disagreement.
I understand if you think he can't win. I don't think he can/will either. But if third party candidates (not just GJ or Stein either) get enough support than people will start to view them as viable alternatives to the crap the big parties have given us to choose from.
Americans keep doing the same thing when it comes to politics and expect different results. That old definition of insanity again.
Posted:
#56
Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
If you don't want to vote for Gary Johnson based on your disbelief in what he stands for, then that's ok by me.
If you don't want to vote for him because you think it's a wasted vote, well that's where we have a disagreement.
I understand if you think he can't win. I don't think he can/will either. But if third party candidates (not just GJ or Stein either) get enough support than people will start to view them as viable alternatives to the crap the big parties have given us to choose from.
Americans keep doing the same thing when it comes to politics and expect different results. That old definition of insanity again.
I won't vote for HRC but siding with these right-wing nut-jobs is not a viable option either(apparently, A LOT OF Republicans feel the same way, too).
Posted:
#57
Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
I understand if you think he can't win. I don't think he can/will either. But if third party candidates (not just GJ or Stein either) get enough support than people will start to view them as viable alternatives to the crap the big parties have given us to choose from.
Fair point
bigreds daddy
Posted:
#60
Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
If you don't want to vote for Gary Johnson based on your disbelief in what he stands for, then that's ok by me.
If you don't want to vote for him because you think it's a wasted vote, well that's where we have a disagreement.
I understand if you think he can't win. I don't think he can/will either. But if third party candidates (not just GJ or Stein either) get enough support than people will start to view them as viable alternatives to the crap the big parties have given us to choose from.
Americans keep doing the same thing when it comes to politics and expect different results. That old definition of insanity again.
As a non-partisan independent, I get your point. I even like your vision of breaking the cycle of the parties prescribing the candidates to the lemmings to support and instead America wakes up and starts making its own mind on issues and people...
But similar to trump, I will not just blindly vote for Gary Johnson with out knowing who he is and what he is about. Which falls on me for not being more informed on his views and campaign.
As someone that wanted Ron Paul last time and did not vote for Obama and does not want Hillary this time, perhaps Gary Johnson is the closest thing to what fits my ron Paul fiscal conservative values with out the racism, theocracy and Mumbo jumbo associated with 21 GOP politics.
I will not support trump like some fool because I have been told to by my party or because I want to keep her out. It seems like a wasted vote anyways..
Altho Wasted vote is not an issue for me to some degree as I backed Ron Paul till the very end and would back anyone that think is the right person based on my independent and non-partisan way of thinking
Posted:
#63
Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:
Plausible deniability.
Plausible deniability.
He could have been referring to keeping their arms no matter what--over my dead body.
"There's nothing you can do folks..." (once she gets the judges she wants to get rid of the 2nd Amendment).
Solution: Disobey Hillary's judges.
Nothing to see hear folks. Move on.
Kind of like Putin saying.....I think it would be funny to see what happens if we dropped a nuke on Manhattan? Would you take that seriously? A psychopathic statement is a psychopathic statement and denying the recognition of it is psychopathic.......denial is the first step towards ill mental health!
Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
Posted:
#64
Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:
Even the Senator from Maine just said that Trump was referring to being able to block any nomination during Senate Hearings to approve a nominee.
Even the Senator from Maine just said that Trump was referring to being able to block any nomination during Senate Hearings to approve a nominee.
Look and LISTEN:
Trump has said cutting remarks to about 150 different groups and these comments are shocking.
Hillary has DAMAGED THE ENTIRE WORLD WITH ACTUAL DEEDS NOT WORDS!
Libya / Egypt / Syria
Bombing and more bombing
Killing 1 million in Iraq
Ecological disasters worldwide
Refugees fleeing their homelands from all over the middle east
Hillary is hidden away. She did one very controlled press conference and had independents and republicans saying "Oh God no way, not her." and she has not done one more and she will not do another.
Give me the careless language anyway over the deeds of this disaster that is awaiting us.
Dude, you need to relax literally. I just came back from a trip to Munich, Germany and travelled up to see Hitlers Nazi fairgrounds in Nuremburg where he did his indoctrination/hate speeches before WWII. It was chilling to go over the history and see how facism developed in the years leading up to his ACTS ON PEOPLE AND AROUND THE WORLD. I did not see this with acts during the Obama administration. Yet, you wish for what Trump calls for. During the almost 2 hour tour of the video displays at Nurembourg, I did not hear any discussion of the word Clinton or Obama but I can tell you that I heard the name TRUMP come up in both American visitors comments and foreign language comments at least a dozen times while going through the tour myself...it was chilling to hear people refer to Trump like Hitler in his approach and what is going on in America....just saying.
Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
Posted:
#65
Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:
Dude, you need to relax literally. I just came back from a trip to Munich, Germany and travelled up to see Hitlers Nazi fairgrounds in Nuremburg where he did his indoctrination/hate speeches before WWII. It was chilling to go over the history and see how facism developed in the years leading up to his ACTS ON PEOPLE AND AROUND THE WORLD. I did not see this with acts during the Obama administration. Yet, you wish for what Trump calls for. During the almost 2 hour tour of the video displays at Nurembourg, I did not hear any discussion of the word Clinton or Obama but I can tell you that I heard the name TRUMP come up in both American visitors comments and foreign language comments at least a dozen times while going through the tour myself...it was chilling to hear people refer to Trump like Hitler in his approach and what is going on in America....just saying.
Bone chilling feels if Trump gets elected in November.
Posted:
#66
Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:
Johnson is a pothead. Look it up.
Johnson is a pothead. Look it up.
If that's the worst thing people can say about him than I think he's the best candidate in this election.
If the GOP actually threw all of their support and resources behind Johnson, I think he would win. Seems like no one wants to vote for HRC or Trump. It's always the "lesser of two evils" excuse. Yet people refuse to think outside of the box because.....well...I guess that's how its always been done. Or a candidate has a certain letter next to their name, identifying themselves to a party that a voter cant possibly vote against no matter what.
Same old politics. Everyone complains yet no one wants to change what they do.
Posted:
#68
Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:
Green Party candidate is a smarter woman than Hillary. Stein can't stand Hillary. If you really want a female president, vote Stein.
Green Party candidate is a smarter woman than Hillary. Stein can't stand Hillary. If you really want a female president, vote Stein.
Who said they wanted to vote for one of those two, solely based on the (supposedly in HRC's case) fact that they are women?
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