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    SarasotaSlim
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:05 PM ET #3276

    What I find as hard to believe is .... as of two weeks ago although America has a history of lynching, it is not a federal crime.an_eek2

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    What I find as hard to believe is .... as of two weeks ago although America has a history of lynching, it is not a federal crime.an_eek2

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:09 PM ET #3277

    A Trump Town Hall with Hannity, Thursday  night on Fox News at 9 ET. 

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    A Trump Town Hall with Hannity, Thursday  night on Fox News at 9 ET. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:17 PM ET #3278

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information.

    Shoot me some links. Can't find anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information.

    Shoot me some links. Can't find anything.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:17 PM ET #3279

    It was a garage door pull rope. Every garage door had one. Just big enough for a hand to fit. HOW COULD WALLACE BE SO STUPID???

    He wasn't, what's another lie for the cause. Pathetic! 

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    It was a garage door pull rope. Every garage door had one. Just big enough for a hand to fit. HOW COULD WALLACE BE SO STUPID???

    He wasn't, what's another lie for the cause. Pathetic! 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:25 PM ET #3280

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information.

    I saw the pictures. Look definitively like a noose. I'm an expert in knots. There's no reason for the pull cord to be tied in that way. If you look at the before picture, you can clearly see the line is the same length as the adjacent garage, except tied in a noose. In tne after picture you can see that the noose and some of the line has been cut and taken. Probably as evidence. It's clear as day to anyone that knows their knots.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information.

    I saw the pictures. Look definitively like a noose. I'm an expert in knots. There's no reason for the pull cord to be tied in that way. If you look at the before picture, you can clearly see the line is the same length as the adjacent garage, except tied in a noose. In tne after picture you can see that the noose and some of the line has been cut and taken. Probably as evidence. It's clear as day to anyone that knows their knots.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:25 PM ET #3281

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The noose was a garage pull that’s been there since  2019 It may not have been directed at Bubba Wallace but regardless of how long it's been there, it was a noose. Which means whoever tied it, whenever they tied it, it's intention was racial overtone. Look, I couldn't care less about Bubba Wallace or any of this race stuff. I've left nooses in people's lockers at work myself so who am I to judge? I do know knots though. Have you ever actually seen a noose, tox? Are you familiar with it's characteristics? It's a slipping knot, that much is obvious. Which means it makes a crappy pull for anything. There are much better knots to use as a pull. A monkey fist comes to mind. And if you intended it to have a loop a bowline is one of the most used and most efficient knots in history. Much more practical than a noose and easier to tie. Heck, leaving the end of the line dangling is more practical than a noose. And quite honestly, you have to set out to learn to tie a noose. You don't learn that one in scouts. You don't learn it in sailing. You don't stumble upon it playing cat's cradle. And you know exactly what message you're conveying when you tie one  I was born at night but not last night. If someone tried to tell me a noose was simply a pull for a garage door i'd roll my eyes and count the coils.

    Sounds like you jumped the gun on this one Stu.

    What would motivate you to leave a noose in a co-workers locker? I would have fired your ass in a heartbeat. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The noose was a garage pull that’s been there since  2019 It may not have been directed at Bubba Wallace but regardless of how long it's been there, it was a noose. Which means whoever tied it, whenever they tied it, it's intention was racial overtone. Look, I couldn't care less about Bubba Wallace or any of this race stuff. I've left nooses in people's lockers at work myself so who am I to judge? I do know knots though. Have you ever actually seen a noose, tox? Are you familiar with it's characteristics? It's a slipping knot, that much is obvious. Which means it makes a crappy pull for anything. There are much better knots to use as a pull. A monkey fist comes to mind. And if you intended it to have a loop a bowline is one of the most used and most efficient knots in history. Much more practical than a noose and easier to tie. Heck, leaving the end of the line dangling is more practical than a noose. And quite honestly, you have to set out to learn to tie a noose. You don't learn that one in scouts. You don't learn it in sailing. You don't stumble upon it playing cat's cradle. And you know exactly what message you're conveying when you tie one  I was born at night but not last night. If someone tried to tell me a noose was simply a pull for a garage door i'd roll my eyes and count the coils.

    Sounds like you jumped the gun on this one Stu.

    What would motivate you to leave a noose in a co-workers locker? I would have fired your ass in a heartbeat. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:26 PM ET #3282

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    What I find as hard to believe is .... as of two weeks ago although America has a history of lynching, it is not a federal crime.

    Last recorded lynching was 1981. Perpetrators, one got the electric chair, other life in prison for cooperating. You won't mention that, oh no, it's not a federal crime, were all racists!! Bullcrap!! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    What I find as hard to believe is .... as of two weeks ago although America has a history of lynching, it is not a federal crime.

    Last recorded lynching was 1981. Perpetrators, one got the electric chair, other life in prison for cooperating. You won't mention that, oh no, it's not a federal crime, were all racists!! Bullcrap!! 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:32 PM ET #3283

    A lynching is a hate crime. If never spelled out in Federal law it is probably because every state has laws against murder, which is a state jurisdiction, not federal. Don't use semantics to find loopholes in the law. Occasionally sanity and reason have to prevail. 

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    A lynching is a hate crime. If never spelled out in Federal law it is probably because every state has laws against murder, which is a state jurisdiction, not federal. Don't use semantics to find loopholes in the law. Occasionally sanity and reason have to prevail. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:33 PM ET #3284

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    It was a garage door pull rope. Every garage door had one. Just big enough for a hand to fit. HOW COULD WALLACE BE SO STUPID??? He wasn't, what's another lie for the cause. Pathetic!

    For one, Wallace never even saw the the thing. A crew member found in and reported it to Nascar officials. They cut it down before he even made it to the track. I know a noose when I see one. I've tied a few myself in my day. And anyone that knows anything about knots knows you don't tie a noose as a handle. A noose slips. That's the point. Look at the adjacent garage. No "hand hold" there, right? These are just facts. LikeI said, I couldn't care less about this story and this is the first i've even acknowledged it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    It was a garage door pull rope. Every garage door had one. Just big enough for a hand to fit. HOW COULD WALLACE BE SO STUPID??? He wasn't, what's another lie for the cause. Pathetic!

    For one, Wallace never even saw the the thing. A crew member found in and reported it to Nascar officials. They cut it down before he even made it to the track. I know a noose when I see one. I've tied a few myself in my day. And anyone that knows anything about knots knows you don't tie a noose as a handle. A noose slips. That's the point. Look at the adjacent garage. No "hand hold" there, right? These are just facts. LikeI said, I couldn't care less about this story and this is the first i've even acknowledged it.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:36 PM ET #3285

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information. I saw the pictures. Look definitively like a noose. I'm an expert in knots. There's no reason for the pull cord to be tied in that way. If you look at the before picture, you can clearly see the line is the same length as the adjacent garage, except tied in a noose. In tne after picture you can see that the noose and some of the line has been cut and taken. Probably as evidence. It's clear as day to anyone that knows their knots.

    When I first got to Florida, we would go up to Lake Okeechobee & fish the canals that fed the lake & we walked through cane fields to some choice fishing spots when 7 or 8 lb bass were being caught regularly. That doesn't happen now.

    On at least 2 occasions we saw nooses hanging from trees. We never went close enough to check the knots but I'm pretty damn sure they were nooses. Central & western was seriously redneck back then (little better now) but seeing that rope was chilling and sent a message to those working in the cane fields. 

    Stu..why the fascination with knots that made you an expert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information. I saw the pictures. Look definitively like a noose. I'm an expert in knots. There's no reason for the pull cord to be tied in that way. If you look at the before picture, you can clearly see the line is the same length as the adjacent garage, except tied in a noose. In tne after picture you can see that the noose and some of the line has been cut and taken. Probably as evidence. It's clear as day to anyone that knows their knots.

    When I first got to Florida, we would go up to Lake Okeechobee & fish the canals that fed the lake & we walked through cane fields to some choice fishing spots when 7 or 8 lb bass were being caught regularly. That doesn't happen now.

    On at least 2 occasions we saw nooses hanging from trees. We never went close enough to check the knots but I'm pretty damn sure they were nooses. Central & western was seriously redneck back then (little better now) but seeing that rope was chilling and sent a message to those working in the cane fields. 

    Stu..why the fascination with knots that made you an expert?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:38 PM ET #3286

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The noose was a garage pull that’s been there since  2019 It may not have been directed at Bubba Wallace but regardless of how long it's been there, it was a noose. Which means whoever tied it, whenever they tied it, it's intention was racial overtone. Look, I couldn't care less about Bubba Wallace or any of this race stuff. I've left nooses in people's lockers at work myself so who am I to judge? I do know knots though. Have you ever actually seen a noose, tox? Are you familiar with it's characteristics? It's a slipping knot, that much is obvious. Which means it makes a crappy pull for anything. There are much better knots to use as a pull. A monkey fist comes to mind. And if you intended it to have a loop a bowline is one of the most used and most efficient knots in history. Much more practical than a noose and easier to tie. Heck, leaving the end of the line dangling is more practical than a noose. And quite honestly, you have to set out to learn to tie a noose. You don't learn that one in scouts. You don't learn it in sailing. You don't stumble upon it playing cat's cradle. And you know exactly what message you're conveying when you tie one  I was born at night but not last night. If someone tried to tell me a noose was simply a pull for a garage door i'd roll my eyes and count the coils. Sounds like you jumped the gun on this one Stu. What would motivate you to leave a noose in a co-workers locker? I would have fired your ass in a heartbeat.

    Catch people off guard, see how they react. See what makes them tick. Show them that you can't be a punk to work on this crew and running off to human resources would get you nowhere. The union wouldn't back you up even if you do. Nobody likes a snitch. 5 or 10 years ago, a mere blink, the world, the country was a lot different.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The noose was a garage pull that’s been there since  2019 It may not have been directed at Bubba Wallace but regardless of how long it's been there, it was a noose. Which means whoever tied it, whenever they tied it, it's intention was racial overtone. Look, I couldn't care less about Bubba Wallace or any of this race stuff. I've left nooses in people's lockers at work myself so who am I to judge? I do know knots though. Have you ever actually seen a noose, tox? Are you familiar with it's characteristics? It's a slipping knot, that much is obvious. Which means it makes a crappy pull for anything. There are much better knots to use as a pull. A monkey fist comes to mind. And if you intended it to have a loop a bowline is one of the most used and most efficient knots in history. Much more practical than a noose and easier to tie. Heck, leaving the end of the line dangling is more practical than a noose. And quite honestly, you have to set out to learn to tie a noose. You don't learn that one in scouts. You don't learn it in sailing. You don't stumble upon it playing cat's cradle. And you know exactly what message you're conveying when you tie one  I was born at night but not last night. If someone tried to tell me a noose was simply a pull for a garage door i'd roll my eyes and count the coils. Sounds like you jumped the gun on this one Stu. What would motivate you to leave a noose in a co-workers locker? I would have fired your ass in a heartbeat.

    Catch people off guard, see how they react. See what makes them tick. Show them that you can't be a punk to work on this crew and running off to human resources would get you nowhere. The union wouldn't back you up even if you do. Nobody likes a snitch. 5 or 10 years ago, a mere blink, the world, the country was a lot different.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2020 - 9:38 PM ET #3287

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information. I saw the pictures. Look definitively like a noose. I'm an expert in knots. There's no reason for the pull cord to be tied in that way. If you look at the before picture, you can clearly see the line is the same length as the adjacent garage, except tied in a noose. In tne after picture you can see that the noose and some of the line has been cut and taken. Probably as evidence. It's clear as day to anyone that knows their knots. When I first got to Florida, we would go up to Lake Okeechobee & fish the canals that fed the lake & we walked through cane fields to some choice fishing spots when 7 or 8 lb bass were being caught regularly. That doesn't happen now. On at least 2 occasions we saw nooses hanging from trees. We never went close enough to check the knots but I'm pretty damn sure they were nooses. Central & western was seriously redneck back then (little better now) but seeing that rope was chilling and sent a message to those working in the cane fields.  Stu..why the fascination with knots that made you an expert?

    Rigging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information. I saw the pictures. Look definitively like a noose. I'm an expert in knots. There's no reason for the pull cord to be tied in that way. If you look at the before picture, you can clearly see the line is the same length as the adjacent garage, except tied in a noose. In tne after picture you can see that the noose and some of the line has been cut and taken. Probably as evidence. It's clear as day to anyone that knows their knots. When I first got to Florida, we would go up to Lake Okeechobee & fish the canals that fed the lake & we walked through cane fields to some choice fishing spots when 7 or 8 lb bass were being caught regularly. That doesn't happen now. On at least 2 occasions we saw nooses hanging from trees. We never went close enough to check the knots but I'm pretty damn sure they were nooses. Central & western was seriously redneck back then (little better now) but seeing that rope was chilling and sent a message to those working in the cane fields.  Stu..why the fascination with knots that made you an expert?

    Rigging.

     
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    A noose is unmistakable, mid, and it's nature makes it a horrible "hand loop". Like I said, if you needed a hand loop (Why would you? None of the othe garages did.) If you needed a loop, you'd tie a bowline. Literally one of, if not the most recognizable knots their is. Doesn't slip. Tightens under load.

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    A noose is unmistakable, mid, and it's nature makes it a horrible "hand loop". Like I said, if you needed a hand loop (Why would you? None of the othe garages did.) If you needed a loop, you'd tie a bowline. Literally one of, if not the most recognizable knots their is. Doesn't slip. Tightens under load.

     
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    Not even debatable. It was a garage door pull. 

    Look at @JamesEBeatty twitter page. That’s where I first saw the pictures this morning. 

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    Not even debatable. It was a garage door pull. 

    Look at @JamesEBeatty twitter page. That’s where I first saw the pictures this morning. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Not even debatable. It was a garage door pull.  Look at @JamesEBeatty twitter page. That’s where I first saw the pictures this morning.

    It was a garage pull... with a noose tied in it. It's clear as day. Nobody ties a noose for a handle. Nobody would bother tying a handle into a garage pull. Is there a "handle" tied into the stall next door? Yes or no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Not even debatable. It was a garage door pull.  Look at @JamesEBeatty twitter page. That’s where I first saw the pictures this morning.

    It was a garage pull... with a noose tied in it. It's clear as day. Nobody ties a noose for a handle. Nobody would bother tying a handle into a garage pull. Is there a "handle" tied into the stall next door? Yes or no?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The noose was a garage pull that’s been there since  2019 It may not have been directed at Bubba Wallace but regardless of how long it's been there, it was a noose. Which means whoever tied it, whenever they tied it, it's intention was racial overtone. Look, I couldn't care less about Bubba Wallace or any of this race stuff. I've left nooses in people's lockers at work myself so who am I to judge? I do know knots though. Have you ever actually seen a noose, tox? Are you familiar with it's characteristics? It's a slipping knot, that much is obvious. Which means it makes a crappy pull for anything. There are much better knots to use as a pull. A monkey fist comes to mind. And if you intended it to have a loop a bowline is one of the most used and most efficient knots in history. Much more practical than a noose and easier to tie. Heck, leaving the end of the line dangling is more practical than a noose. And quite honestly, you have to set out to learn to tie a noose. You don't learn that one in scouts. You don't learn it in sailing. You don't stumble upon it playing cat's cradle. And you know exactly what message you're conveying when you tie one  I was born at night but not last night. If someone tried to tell me a noose was simply a pull for a garage door i'd roll my eyes and count the coils. Sounds like you jumped the gun on this one Stu. What would motivate you to leave a noose in a co-workers locker? I would have fired your ass in a heartbeat. Catch people off guard, see how they react. See what makes them tick. Show them that you can't be a punk to work on this crew and running off to human resources would get you nowhere. The union wouldn't back you up even if you do. Nobody likes a snitch. 5 or 10 years ago, a mere blink, the world, the country was a lot different.

    Interesting because that's Slim's avatar. An avatar can tell a lot about a person.

    Was the co-worker white or black? Either way, why not just approach the dude? I think that was a punk way of handling it.

    What did the noose accomplish that you couldn't accomplish man to man?   

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The noose was a garage pull that’s been there since  2019 It may not have been directed at Bubba Wallace but regardless of how long it's been there, it was a noose. Which means whoever tied it, whenever they tied it, it's intention was racial overtone. Look, I couldn't care less about Bubba Wallace or any of this race stuff. I've left nooses in people's lockers at work myself so who am I to judge? I do know knots though. Have you ever actually seen a noose, tox? Are you familiar with it's characteristics? It's a slipping knot, that much is obvious. Which means it makes a crappy pull for anything. There are much better knots to use as a pull. A monkey fist comes to mind. And if you intended it to have a loop a bowline is one of the most used and most efficient knots in history. Much more practical than a noose and easier to tie. Heck, leaving the end of the line dangling is more practical than a noose. And quite honestly, you have to set out to learn to tie a noose. You don't learn that one in scouts. You don't learn it in sailing. You don't stumble upon it playing cat's cradle. And you know exactly what message you're conveying when you tie one  I was born at night but not last night. If someone tried to tell me a noose was simply a pull for a garage door i'd roll my eyes and count the coils. Sounds like you jumped the gun on this one Stu. What would motivate you to leave a noose in a co-workers locker? I would have fired your ass in a heartbeat. Catch people off guard, see how they react. See what makes them tick. Show them that you can't be a punk to work on this crew and running off to human resources would get you nowhere. The union wouldn't back you up even if you do. Nobody likes a snitch. 5 or 10 years ago, a mere blink, the world, the country was a lot different.

    Interesting because that's Slim's avatar. An avatar can tell a lot about a person.

    Was the co-worker white or black? Either way, why not just approach the dude? I think that was a punk way of handling it.

    What did the noose accomplish that you couldn't accomplish man to man?   

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information. I saw the pictures. Look definitively like a noose. I'm an expert in knots. There's no reason for the pull cord to be tied in that way. If you look at the before picture, you can clearly see the line is the same length as the adjacent garage, except tied in a noose. In tne after picture you can see that the noose and some of the line has been cut and taken. Probably as evidence. It's clear as day to anyone that knows their knots. When I first got to Florida, we would go up to Lake Okeechobee & fish the canals that fed the lake & we walked through cane fields to some choice fishing spots when 7 or 8 lb bass were being caught regularly. That doesn't happen now. On at least 2 occasions we saw nooses hanging from trees. We never went close enough to check the knots but I'm pretty damn sure they were nooses. Central & western was seriously redneck back then (little better now) but seeing that rope was chilling and sent a message to those working in the cane fields.  Stu..why the fascination with knots that made you an expert? Rigging.

    For sailing or cranes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information. I saw the pictures. Look definitively like a noose. I'm an expert in knots. There's no reason for the pull cord to be tied in that way. If you look at the before picture, you can clearly see the line is the same length as the adjacent garage, except tied in a noose. In tne after picture you can see that the noose and some of the line has been cut and taken. Probably as evidence. It's clear as day to anyone that knows their knots. When I first got to Florida, we would go up to Lake Okeechobee & fish the canals that fed the lake & we walked through cane fields to some choice fishing spots when 7 or 8 lb bass were being caught regularly. That doesn't happen now. On at least 2 occasions we saw nooses hanging from trees. We never went close enough to check the knots but I'm pretty damn sure they were nooses. Central & western was seriously redneck back then (little better now) but seeing that rope was chilling and sent a message to those working in the cane fields.  Stu..why the fascination with knots that made you an expert? Rigging.

    For sailing or cranes?

     
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    These people still believe it was a noose

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    These people still believe it was a noose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The noose was a garage pull that’s been there since  2019 It may not have been directed at Bubba Wallace but regardless of how long it's been there, it was a noose. Which means whoever tied it, whenever they tied it, it's intention was racial overtone. Look, I couldn't care less about Bubba Wallace or any of this race stuff. I've left nooses in people's lockers at work myself so who am I to judge? I do know knots though. Have you ever actually seen a noose, tox? Are you familiar with it's characteristics? It's a slipping knot, that much is obvious. Which means it makes a crappy pull for anything. There are much better knots to use as a pull. A monkey fist comes to mind. And if you intended it to have a loop a bowline is one of the most used and most efficient knots in history. Much more practical than a noose and easier to tie. Heck, leaving the end of the line dangling is more practical than a noose. And quite honestly, you have to set out to learn to tie a noose. You don't learn that one in scouts. You don't learn it in sailing. You don't stumble upon it playing cat's cradle. And you know exactly what message you're conveying when you tie one  I was born at night but not last night. If someone tried to tell me a noose was simply a pull for a garage door i'd roll my eyes and count the coils. Sounds like you jumped the gun on this one Stu. What would motivate you to leave a noose in a co-workers locker? I would have fired your ass in a heartbeat. Catch people off guard, see how they react. See what makes them tick. Show them that you can't be a punk to work on this crew and running off to human resources would get you nowhere. The union wouldn't back you up even if you do. Nobody likes a snitch. 5 or 10 years ago, a mere blink, the world, the country was a lot different. Interesting because that's Slim's avatar. An avatar can tell a lot about a person. Was the co-worker white or black? Either way, why not just approach the dude? I think that was a punk way of handling it. What did the noose accomplish that you couldn't accomplish man to man?

    You misunderstand and this is the last i'll explain myself to you because I don't like you, and I don't respect you. I think you're full of shit. A fraud... but I digress.

    It was never a "guy getting out of line has to be sent a message" kind of thing. There was nothing to hash out man to man. It was a very old school work environment. The opposite of PC. Guys would say a lot of crazy shit, nothing was off limits. Have a rail for breakfast, a whiskey for lunch. A few more for dinner. All while working our asses off. You had to be tough as nails. A throw back to a forgotten time. The place was a time warp in an ever changing world. We'd get kids in and you gotta see what they're made of. We were able to get away with what we did because we were good at our job and nobody rocked the boat. We didn't need some 19 year old kid falling ass backwards into a six figure job, being too much of a soft ass to cut it, then crying to human resources, to the union hall when they're shown the door. Hang a noose in someones locker and if he goes to shit and cries about it, he probably wouldn't fit in anyway. You can find out something about his character in minutes rather than months. We all busted each others's ball. We made racist jokes. Dick jokes, whatever but when it was time to get things done....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The noose was a garage pull that’s been there since  2019 It may not have been directed at Bubba Wallace but regardless of how long it's been there, it was a noose. Which means whoever tied it, whenever they tied it, it's intention was racial overtone. Look, I couldn't care less about Bubba Wallace or any of this race stuff. I've left nooses in people's lockers at work myself so who am I to judge? I do know knots though. Have you ever actually seen a noose, tox? Are you familiar with it's characteristics? It's a slipping knot, that much is obvious. Which means it makes a crappy pull for anything. There are much better knots to use as a pull. A monkey fist comes to mind. And if you intended it to have a loop a bowline is one of the most used and most efficient knots in history. Much more practical than a noose and easier to tie. Heck, leaving the end of the line dangling is more practical than a noose. And quite honestly, you have to set out to learn to tie a noose. You don't learn that one in scouts. You don't learn it in sailing. You don't stumble upon it playing cat's cradle. And you know exactly what message you're conveying when you tie one  I was born at night but not last night. If someone tried to tell me a noose was simply a pull for a garage door i'd roll my eyes and count the coils. Sounds like you jumped the gun on this one Stu. What would motivate you to leave a noose in a co-workers locker? I would have fired your ass in a heartbeat. Catch people off guard, see how they react. See what makes them tick. Show them that you can't be a punk to work on this crew and running off to human resources would get you nowhere. The union wouldn't back you up even if you do. Nobody likes a snitch. 5 or 10 years ago, a mere blink, the world, the country was a lot different. Interesting because that's Slim's avatar. An avatar can tell a lot about a person. Was the co-worker white or black? Either way, why not just approach the dude? I think that was a punk way of handling it. What did the noose accomplish that you couldn't accomplish man to man?

    You misunderstand and this is the last i'll explain myself to you because I don't like you, and I don't respect you. I think you're full of shit. A fraud... but I digress.

    It was never a "guy getting out of line has to be sent a message" kind of thing. There was nothing to hash out man to man. It was a very old school work environment. The opposite of PC. Guys would say a lot of crazy shit, nothing was off limits. Have a rail for breakfast, a whiskey for lunch. A few more for dinner. All while working our asses off. You had to be tough as nails. A throw back to a forgotten time. The place was a time warp in an ever changing world. We'd get kids in and you gotta see what they're made of. We were able to get away with what we did because we were good at our job and nobody rocked the boat. We didn't need some 19 year old kid falling ass backwards into a six figure job, being too much of a soft ass to cut it, then crying to human resources, to the union hall when they're shown the door. Hang a noose in someones locker and if he goes to shit and cries about it, he probably wouldn't fit in anyway. You can find out something about his character in minutes rather than months. We all busted each others's ball. We made racist jokes. Dick jokes, whatever but when it was time to get things done....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2020 - 6:59 AM ET #3295

    I still haven’t heard any examples of systemic racism in 2020  

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    I still haven’t heard any examples of systemic racism in 2020  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2020 - 7:01 AM ET #3296

    Jamele Hill: 

    ”It. Was. A. Noose.

    They just don’t believe it was directed at Bubba Wallace.

    I know facts nor context is your strong suit, but do try to keep up.” 

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    Jamele Hill: 

    ”It. Was. A. Noose.

    They just don’t believe it was directed at Bubba Wallace.

    I know facts nor context is your strong suit, but do try to keep up.” 

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    America is so racist, democrats have to stage racist acts against themselves.

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    America is so racist, democrats have to stage racist acts against themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information. I saw the pictures. Look definitively like a noose. I'm an expert in knots. There's no reason for the pull cord to be tied in that way. If you look at the before picture, you can clearly see the line is the same length as the adjacent garage, except tied in a noose. In tne after picture you can see that the noose and some of the line has been cut and taken. Probably as evidence. It's clear as day to anyone that knows their knots.

    Your right Stump, at least according to Bubba Wallace. He says he never saw it, not allowed in the garage (COVID rules) and he said it was tied in noose fashion. No other garage had one tied in noose fashion. It was tied long before his car was assigned that garage bay so.......that leaves the door open for you to say a racial hater tied that rope last year. 

    You know the problem with any racial tension that exists today, IMO, comes from this; The Nation banned the hateful N-word, and it IS HATEFUL. Yet black america allows the word in black written songs??? WHY IS THAT?? Now Jimmy Kimmel is facing heat for a parody of some of those songs. Sucks to be him, HA. In San Francisco on the base of Francis Scott Key's former statue is spray painted the words "KILL WHITEY".  WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?? WHERE ARE THE HATE CRIME INVESTIGATORS who ran to a garage door pull? Oh, I see, only works one way, especially in Democrat controlled areas! There is NO CREDIBILITY here. We will never heal like this! Makes me think HEALING IS NOT THE GOAL AT ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The evidence is clear. There are pictures of the pull broken and the other pulls in every other bay. Change your sources of information. I saw the pictures. Look definitively like a noose. I'm an expert in knots. There's no reason for the pull cord to be tied in that way. If you look at the before picture, you can clearly see the line is the same length as the adjacent garage, except tied in a noose. In tne after picture you can see that the noose and some of the line has been cut and taken. Probably as evidence. It's clear as day to anyone that knows their knots.

    Your right Stump, at least according to Bubba Wallace. He says he never saw it, not allowed in the garage (COVID rules) and he said it was tied in noose fashion. No other garage had one tied in noose fashion. It was tied long before his car was assigned that garage bay so.......that leaves the door open for you to say a racial hater tied that rope last year. 

    You know the problem with any racial tension that exists today, IMO, comes from this; The Nation banned the hateful N-word, and it IS HATEFUL. Yet black america allows the word in black written songs??? WHY IS THAT?? Now Jimmy Kimmel is facing heat for a parody of some of those songs. Sucks to be him, HA. In San Francisco on the base of Francis Scott Key's former statue is spray painted the words "KILL WHITEY".  WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?? WHERE ARE THE HATE CRIME INVESTIGATORS who ran to a garage door pull? Oh, I see, only works one way, especially in Democrat controlled areas! There is NO CREDIBILITY here. We will never heal like this! Makes me think HEALING IS NOT THE GOAL AT ALL.

     
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    Healing is not the goal.  They have a strong dislike for America.   Why nobody tearing down the pyramid or sphinx?  Those was made by more slaves who were enslaved for longer time and had worse working conditions and probably treated in an unfairly way.  Other European countries and even Australia had activities.  Why?  I'm guessing since it is anAfrican country ,and since the slave industry started and was glorified there, nobody wants to acknowledge that.  Start from the beginning not halfway or last section.  

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    Healing is not the goal.  They have a strong dislike for America.   Why nobody tearing down the pyramid or sphinx?  Those was made by more slaves who were enslaved for longer time and had worse working conditions and probably treated in an unfairly way.  Other European countries and even Australia had activities.  Why?  I'm guessing since it is anAfrican country ,and since the slave industry started and was glorified there, nobody wants to acknowledge that.  Start from the beginning not halfway or last section.  

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Healing is not the goal.  They have a strong dislike for America.   Why nobody tearing down the pyramid or sphinx?  Those was made by more slaves who were enslaved for longer time and had worse working conditions and probably treated in an unfairly way.  Other European countries and even Australia had activities.  Why?  I'm guessing since it is anAfrican country ,and since the slave industry started and was glorified there, nobody wants to acknowledge that.  Start from the beginning not halfway or last section.

    The pyramids weren't built by slaves. Only in the movies. Archaeology doesn't support this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Healing is not the goal.  They have a strong dislike for America.   Why nobody tearing down the pyramid or sphinx?  Those was made by more slaves who were enslaved for longer time and had worse working conditions and probably treated in an unfairly way.  Other European countries and even Australia had activities.  Why?  I'm guessing since it is anAfrican country ,and since the slave industry started and was glorified there, nobody wants to acknowledge that.  Start from the beginning not halfway or last section.

    The pyramids weren't built by slaves. Only in the movies. Archaeology doesn't support this.

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