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France in political limbo
as left-wing alliance
denies pro-fascidt far right a majority
in surprise election result  an_eek2

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France in political limbo
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denies pro-fascidt far right a majority
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an_speak  Breaking news from MAGA nation:

 

 

Apparently, the leader of DENMARK must be a horrible villain/wretched leader because he failed to advert(sic) war in Ukraine, increased our inflation and killed countless people, displaced millions.

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Apparently, the leader of DENMARK must be a horrible villain/wretched leader because he failed to advert(sic) war in Ukraine, increased our inflation and killed countless people, displaced millions.

 
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surprised Breaking news from MAGA nation:

 

 

The leader of PORTUGAL is responsible for worldwide inflation including OUR inflation and killed countless people, displacing millions, because he failed to advert(sic) war in Ukraine

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surprised Breaking news from MAGA nation:

 

 

The leader of PORTUGAL is responsible for worldwide inflation including OUR inflation and killed countless people, displacing millions, because he failed to advert(sic) war in Ukraine

 
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France in political limbo as left-wing alliance denies pro-fascidt far right a majority in surprise election result

When no single party has enough votes, different parties must team up in a coalition to form a majority government in parliamentary system.  Right wing coalition is denied power because left wing coalition is more likely to cooperate with centralist parties.  In contrast, US has a two party system with less cooperation and more fighting.

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When no single party has enough votes, different parties must team up in a coalition to form a majority government in parliamentary system.  Right wing coalition is denied power because left wing coalition is more likely to cooperate with centralist parties.  In contrast, US has a two party system with less cooperation and more fighting.

 
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  an_police  A "unified Reich," he said!

 

    Trump's PROJECT 2025:

 

Make

Adolf     https://tinyurl.com/bpxnybje

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  an_police  A "unified Reich," he said!

 

    Trump's PROJECT 2025:

 

Make

Adolf     https://tinyurl.com/bpxnybje

Great

Again

 
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Fun fact....did you know that Adolf and Hitler cannot even been used for names of Hurricanes.....there is a list of names that are not allowed to be used and these are on the list....peace_5

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Fun fact....did you know that Adolf and Hitler cannot even been used for names of Hurricanes.....there is a list of names that are not allowed to be used and these are on the list....peace_5

 
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goodpost  but truthfully i sincerely wish for the american people , all of them , that such a post of truth had not become necessary as a warning to our freedoms and democracy

 

 

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goodpost  but truthfully i sincerely wish for the american people , all of them , that such a post of truth had not become necessary as a warning to our freedoms and democracy

 

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Breaking news from MAGA nation:     The leader of PORTUGAL is responsible for worldwide inflation including OUR inflation and killed countless people, displacing millions, because he failed to advert(sic) war in Ukraine

so portugal did it !! an_arsed

 

well that means its all joe bidens fault 

 

 

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Breaking news from MAGA nation:     The leader of PORTUGAL is responsible for worldwide inflation including OUR inflation and killed countless people, displacing millions, because he failed to advert(sic) war in Ukraine

so portugal did it !! an_arsed

 

well that means its all joe bidens fault 

 

 

 
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No, its Ronaldo's fault

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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Breaking news from MAGA nation:     The leader of PORTUGAL is responsible for worldwide inflation including OUR inflation and killed countless people, displacing millions, because he failed to advert(sic) war in Ukraine so portugal did it !!    well that means its all joe bidens fault

Apparently......according to MAGA nation on social media.....

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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Breaking news from MAGA nation:     The leader of PORTUGAL is responsible for worldwide inflation including OUR inflation and killed countless people, displacing millions, because he failed to advert(sic) war in Ukraine so portugal did it !!    well that means its all joe bidens fault

Apparently......according to MAGA nation on social media.....

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Biden addresses the nation and condemns violence after Trump rally shooting:

'It's sick'

 

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Biden addresses the nation and condemns violence after Trump rally shooting:

'It's sick'

 

- Business Insider

 
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Biden and other political leaders condemn violence after incident at Trump rally

 

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Biden and other political leaders condemn violence after incident at Trump rally   - NBC News

 

Those were correct responses and it appears that their arms did not have to be twisted by aides to get them to denounce it.

 

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Those were correct responses and it appears that their arms did not have to be twisted by aides to get them to denounce it.

 

 
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surprised Is this really happening??

 

The anti-democracy MAGAs are really gonna try to promote a CONVICTED FELON as a POTUS candidate? confused

Seriously, think back over the last year:
- found guilty of sexual assault (rape) by a jury in a defamation case he lost
- arrested in Florida on federal criminal charges
- arrested in NY on state criminal fraud charges
- arrested in DC on federal criminal charges
- arrested in Georgia on state criminal charges, including racketeering
- mob boss mug shot posted in news media worldwide
- found guilty of MASSIVE FRAUD in NY; $464 MILLION in damages
- found guilty of defamation AGAIN (same rape case); $83 MILLION damages
- found guilty by a jury on all 34 FELONY counts in NY FRAUD case (awaits sentencing)
- a survey of 154 experts from the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, declare trump as the lowest ranked and WORST President in all US history - and by a wide margin! an_speechless

 

All that after he completely mismanaged a pandemic leading ultimately to the premature deaths of over 1.15 MILLION Americans, was impeached TWICE, and kicked out of office by American voters.


.......This phuckingDISASTER/CONVICTED FELON is the republicans champion now???

 

Is this really happening? surprised

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surprised Is this really happening??

 

The anti-democracy MAGAs are really gonna try to promote a CONVICTED FELON as a POTUS candidate? confused

Seriously, think back over the last year:
- found guilty of sexual assault (rape) by a jury in a defamation case he lost
- arrested in Florida on federal criminal charges
- arrested in NY on state criminal fraud charges
- arrested in DC on federal criminal charges
- arrested in Georgia on state criminal charges, including racketeering
- mob boss mug shot posted in news media worldwide
- found guilty of MASSIVE FRAUD in NY; $464 MILLION in damages
- found guilty of defamation AGAIN (same rape case); $83 MILLION damages
- found guilty by a jury on all 34 FELONY counts in NY FRAUD case (awaits sentencing)
- a survey of 154 experts from the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, declare trump as the lowest ranked and WORST President in all US history - and by a wide margin! an_speechless

 

All that after he completely mismanaged a pandemic leading ultimately to the premature deaths of over 1.15 MILLION Americans, was impeached TWICE, and kicked out of office by American voters.


.......This phuckingDISASTER/CONVICTED FELON is the republicans champion now???

 

Is this really happening? surprised

 
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Yes, its really happening...millions upon millions of people like him just like they like the guy who resigned...America right, what a country 

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Yes, its really happening...millions upon millions of people like him just like they like the guy who resigned...America right, what a country 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Is this really happening???

 

The anti-democracy MAGAs are really gonna try to promote a CONVICTED FELON as a POTUS candidate? confused

Seriously, think back over the last year:
- found guilty of sexual assault (rape) by a jury in a defamation case he lost
- arrested in Florida on federal criminal charges
- arrested in NY on state criminal fraud charges
- arrested in DC on federal criminal charges
- arrested in Georgia on state criminal charges, including racketeering
- mob boss mug shot posted in news media worldwide
- found guilty of MASSIVE FRAUD in NY; $464 MILLION in damages
- found guilty of defamation AGAIN (same rape case); $83 MILLION damages
- found guilty by a jury on all 34 FELONY counts in NY FRAUD case (awaits sentencing)
- a survey of 154 experts from the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, declare trump as the lowest ranked and WORST President in all US history - and by a wide margin! an_speechless

 

All that after he completely mismanaged a pandemic leading ultimately to the premature deaths of over 1.15 MILLION Americans, was impeached TWICE, and kicked out of office by American voters.


.......This phuckingDISASTER/CONVICTED FELON is the republicans champion now???

 

Is this really happening? surprised

Forgot to add he incited an INSURRECTION in order to stay in power illegally.

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Is this really happening???

 

The anti-democracy MAGAs are really gonna try to promote a CONVICTED FELON as a POTUS candidate? confused

Seriously, think back over the last year:
- found guilty of sexual assault (rape) by a jury in a defamation case he lost
- arrested in Florida on federal criminal charges
- arrested in NY on state criminal fraud charges
- arrested in DC on federal criminal charges
- arrested in Georgia on state criminal charges, including racketeering
- mob boss mug shot posted in news media worldwide
- found guilty of MASSIVE FRAUD in NY; $464 MILLION in damages
- found guilty of defamation AGAIN (same rape case); $83 MILLION damages
- found guilty by a jury on all 34 FELONY counts in NY FRAUD case (awaits sentencing)
- a survey of 154 experts from the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, declare trump as the lowest ranked and WORST President in all US history - and by a wide margin! an_speechless

 

All that after he completely mismanaged a pandemic leading ultimately to the premature deaths of over 1.15 MILLION Americans, was impeached TWICE, and kicked out of office by American voters.


.......This phuckingDISASTER/CONVICTED FELON is the republicans champion now???

 

Is this really happening? surprised

Forgot to add he incited an INSURRECTION in order to stay in power illegally.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

The anti-democracy MAGAs are really gonna try to promote a CONVICTED FELON as a POTUS candidate? confused

Seriously, think back over the last year:
- found guilty of sexual assault (rape) by a jury in a defamation case he lost
- arrested in Florida on federal criminal charges
- arrested in NY on state criminal fraud charges
- arrested in DC on federal criminal charges
- arrested in Georgia on state criminal charges, including racketeering
- mob boss mug shot posted in news media worldwide
- found guilty of MASSIVE FRAUD in NY; $464 MILLION in damages
- found guilty of defamation AGAIN (same rape case); $83 MILLION damages
- found guilty by a jury on all 34 FELONY counts in NY FRAUD case (awaits sentencing)
- a survey of 154 experts from the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, declare trump as the lowest ranked and WORST President in all US history - and by a wide margin! an_speechless

 All that after he completely mismanaged a pandemic leading ultimately to the premature deaths of over 1.15 MILLION Americans, was impeached TWICE, and kicked out of office by American voters.


.......This phuckingDISASTER/CONVICTED FELON is the republicans champion now???

 

Is this really happening? surprised

Forgot to add he incited an INSURRECTION in order to stay in power illegally.

Forgot to add the asshole-criminal who leads the GOP also sold us out to the Russians at Helsinki on live TV.

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The anti-democracy MAGAs are really gonna try to promote a CONVICTED FELON as a POTUS candidate? confused

Seriously, think back over the last year:
- found guilty of sexual assault (rape) by a jury in a defamation case he lost
- arrested in Florida on federal criminal charges
- arrested in NY on state criminal fraud charges
- arrested in DC on federal criminal charges
- arrested in Georgia on state criminal charges, including racketeering
- mob boss mug shot posted in news media worldwide
- found guilty of MASSIVE FRAUD in NY; $464 MILLION in damages
- found guilty of defamation AGAIN (same rape case); $83 MILLION damages
- found guilty by a jury on all 34 FELONY counts in NY FRAUD case (awaits sentencing)
- a survey of 154 experts from the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, declare trump as the lowest ranked and WORST President in all US history - and by a wide margin! an_speechless

 All that after he completely mismanaged a pandemic leading ultimately to the premature deaths of over 1.15 MILLION Americans, was impeached TWICE, and kicked out of office by American voters.


.......This phuckingDISASTER/CONVICTED FELON is the republicans champion now???

 

Is this really happening? surprised

Forgot to add he incited an INSURRECTION in order to stay in power illegally.

Forgot to add the asshole-criminal who leads the GOP also sold us out to the Russians at Helsinki on live TV.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Is this really happening??

The anti-democracy MAGAs are really gonna try to promote a CONVICTED FELON as a POTUS candidate? confused

Seriously, think back over the last year:
- found guilty of sexual assault (rape) by a jury in a defamation case he lost
- arrested in Florida on federal criminal charges
- arrested in NY on state criminal fraud charges
- arrested in DC on federal criminal charges
- arrested in Georgia on state criminal charges, including racketeering
- mob boss mug shot posted in news media worldwide
- found guilty of MASSIVE FRAUD in NY; $464 MILLION in damages
- found guilty of defamation AGAIN (same rape case); $83 MILLION damages
- found guilty by a jury on all 34 FELONY counts in NY FRAUD case (awaits sentencing)
- a survey of 154 experts from the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, declare trump as the lowest ranked and WORST President in all US history - and by a wide margin! an_speechless

 

All that after he completely mismanaged a pandemic leading ultimately to the premature deaths of over 1.15 MILLION Americans, was impeached TWICE, and kicked out of office by American voters.


.......This phuckingDISASTER/CONVICTED FELON is the republicans champion now???

 

Is this really happening? surprised

Almost hard to believe, right?!

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Is this really happening??

The anti-democracy MAGAs are really gonna try to promote a CONVICTED FELON as a POTUS candidate? confused

Seriously, think back over the last year:
- found guilty of sexual assault (rape) by a jury in a defamation case he lost
- arrested in Florida on federal criminal charges
- arrested in NY on state criminal fraud charges
- arrested in DC on federal criminal charges
- arrested in Georgia on state criminal charges, including racketeering
- mob boss mug shot posted in news media worldwide
- found guilty of MASSIVE FRAUD in NY; $464 MILLION in damages
- found guilty of defamation AGAIN (same rape case); $83 MILLION damages
- found guilty by a jury on all 34 FELONY counts in NY FRAUD case (awaits sentencing)
- a survey of 154 experts from the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, declare trump as the lowest ranked and WORST President in all US history - and by a wide margin! an_speechless

 

All that after he completely mismanaged a pandemic leading ultimately to the premature deaths of over 1.15 MILLION Americans, was impeached TWICE, and kicked out of office by American voters.


.......This phuckingDISASTER/CONVICTED FELON is the republicans champion now???

 

Is this really happening? surprised

Almost hard to believe, right?!

 
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 Almost.  But most of the MAGAs across the country fall into the category which Hillary described them, so it figures.

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 Almost.  But most of the MAGAs across the country fall into the category which Hillary described them, so it figures.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The anti-democracy MAGAs are really gonna try to promote a CONVICTED FELON as a POTUS candidate? Seriously, think back over the last year: - found guilty of sexual assault (rape) by a jury in a defamation case he lost- arrested in Florida on federal criminal charges- arrested in NY on state criminal fraud charges- arrested in DC on federal criminal charges- arrested in Georgia on state criminal charges, including racketeering- mob boss mug shot posted in news media worldwide- found guilty of MASSIVE FRAUD in NY; $464 MILLION in damages- found guilty of defamation AGAIN (same rape case); $83 MILLION damages- found guilty by a jury on all 34 FELONY counts in NY FRAUD case (awaits sentencing)- a survey of 154 experts from the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, declare trump as the lowest ranked and WORST President in all US history - and by a wide margin!  All that after he completely mismanaged a pandemic leading ultimately to the premature deaths of over 1.15 MILLION Americans, was impeached TWICE, and kicked out of office by American voters. .......This phuckingDISASTER/CONVICTED FELON is the republicans champion now???   Is this really happening? Forgot to add he incited an INSURRECTION in order to stay in power illegally.Forgot to add the asshole-criminal who leads the GOP also sold us out to the Russians at Helsinki on live TV.

Can add his recent racial remarks about the Vice President to the list too.

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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The anti-democracy MAGAs are really gonna try to promote a CONVICTED FELON as a POTUS candidate? Seriously, think back over the last year: - found guilty of sexual assault (rape) by a jury in a defamation case he lost- arrested in Florida on federal criminal charges- arrested in NY on state criminal fraud charges- arrested in DC on federal criminal charges- arrested in Georgia on state criminal charges, including racketeering- mob boss mug shot posted in news media worldwide- found guilty of MASSIVE FRAUD in NY; $464 MILLION in damages- found guilty of defamation AGAIN (same rape case); $83 MILLION damages- found guilty by a jury on all 34 FELONY counts in NY FRAUD case (awaits sentencing)- a survey of 154 experts from the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association, declare trump as the lowest ranked and WORST President in all US history - and by a wide margin!  All that after he completely mismanaged a pandemic leading ultimately to the premature deaths of over 1.15 MILLION Americans, was impeached TWICE, and kicked out of office by American voters. .......This phuckingDISASTER/CONVICTED FELON is the republicans champion now???   Is this really happening? Forgot to add he incited an INSURRECTION in order to stay in power illegally.Forgot to add the asshole-criminal who leads the GOP also sold us out to the Russians at Helsinki on live TV.

Can add his recent racial remarks about the Vice President to the list too.

 
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an_light New York CNN —

Google has violated US antitrust law with its search business, a federal judge ruled Monday, handing the tech giant a staggering court defeat with the potential to reshape how millions of Americans get information online and to upend decades of dominance.

“After having carefully considered and weighed the witness testimony and evidence, the court reaches the following conclusion: Google is a monopolist, and it has acted as one to maintain its monopoly,” US District Judge Amit Mehta Mehta wrote in Monday’s opinion. “It has violated Section 2 of the Sherman Act.”

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an_light New York CNN —

Google has violated US antitrust law with its search business, a federal judge ruled Monday, handing the tech giant a staggering court defeat with the potential to reshape how millions of Americans get information online and to upend decades of dominance.

“After having carefully considered and weighed the witness testimony and evidence, the court reaches the following conclusion: Google is a monopolist, and it has acted as one to maintain its monopoly,” US District Judge Amit Mehta Mehta wrote in Monday’s opinion. “It has violated Section 2 of the Sherman Act.”

 
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It is telling how times have changed and how brazen and lawless some people are.
Decades back there was real fear of prosecution and penalty from publishing, reporting even suggesting slanderous claims without PROOF. Now its whatever the crap goes and especially for those with 10 layers of lawyers and opaque PAC cash to spend if there are actual charges ever considered to be brought.

Remember even as far back as Watergate that those reporters did not break the story without substantial proof and evidence that would be iron clad in court. Now it is say whatever you want without recourse even if it harms someone. It helps when the someone being harmed has no resources to defend themselves and the zero bully can stomp all over them and have no fear of reprisal or prison time.

Now media empires have too much power and individuals do not respect society and our legal system. The fact that the only tool of respect is financial impact means that anyone with deep pockets can wreck anyone they deem as a threat or even worse destroy someone just to get attention and votes.

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Agreed.  peace_5

Actually WSC, to me it's depressing how society has recently morphed.  Personally I wish deliberately misstating facts and/or casting disparaging inuendo and/or outright LIES - effusing BS statements not supported by factual evidence, and not even cast against an individual per se, would be grounds for legal pursuit, akin to screaming (falsely) "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater.  Yes, it is wishful fantasy, however, because of much of what you allude to.... our society is permitted to lie and mislead and misinform.... It's clearly morally WRONG, but nevertheless permitted... Technically such permissiveness has always been that way but rarely elevated as an issue of disgust in and of itself like today.....most people restrained themselves from that putrid behavior, perhaps as a matter of conforming to a christian-like devotion to good morals....to BEING a good, moral person.....

In this country, not near as much anymore... an_lightAnd the decline became palpably noticeable in mid-2016, with a slow but steady DOWNWARD trajectory continuing to this day. All of America and perhaps the world as well, is worse off for it. 

"FUCK morals! FUCK respect! FUCK fair-play! FUCK truth!" Just say whatever the hell one wants, whenever the hell one wants, and TOWARD whomever one wants!  Morals and respect be damned!!! trumpism has made that MAGA-philosophy okay...and his followers (but not ALL republicans) have fully embraced it....

My perception is you have strong characteristics of both "utilitarianism" and "effective altruism" - both GOOD (moral) qualities, among others.  I wish more people moved in that direction...

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It is telling how times have changed and how brazen and lawless some people are.
Decades back there was real fear of prosecution and penalty from publishing, reporting even suggesting slanderous claims without PROOF. Now its whatever the crap goes and especially for those with 10 layers of lawyers and opaque PAC cash to spend if there are actual charges ever considered to be brought.

Remember even as far back as Watergate that those reporters did not break the story without substantial proof and evidence that would be iron clad in court. Now it is say whatever you want without recourse even if it harms someone. It helps when the someone being harmed has no resources to defend themselves and the zero bully can stomp all over them and have no fear of reprisal or prison time.

Now media empires have too much power and individuals do not respect society and our legal system. The fact that the only tool of respect is financial impact means that anyone with deep pockets can wreck anyone they deem as a threat or even worse destroy someone just to get attention and votes.

@wallstreetcappers

Agreed.  peace_5

Actually WSC, to me it's depressing how society has recently morphed.  Personally I wish deliberately misstating facts and/or casting disparaging inuendo and/or outright LIES - effusing BS statements not supported by factual evidence, and not even cast against an individual per se, would be grounds for legal pursuit, akin to screaming (falsely) "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater.  Yes, it is wishful fantasy, however, because of much of what you allude to.... our society is permitted to lie and mislead and misinform.... It's clearly morally WRONG, but nevertheless permitted... Technically such permissiveness has always been that way but rarely elevated as an issue of disgust in and of itself like today.....most people restrained themselves from that putrid behavior, perhaps as a matter of conforming to a christian-like devotion to good morals....to BEING a good, moral person.....

In this country, not near as much anymore... an_lightAnd the decline became palpably noticeable in mid-2016, with a slow but steady DOWNWARD trajectory continuing to this day. All of America and perhaps the world as well, is worse off for it. 

"FUCK morals! FUCK respect! FUCK fair-play! FUCK truth!" Just say whatever the hell one wants, whenever the hell one wants, and TOWARD whomever one wants!  Morals and respect be damned!!! trumpism has made that MAGA-philosophy okay...and his followers (but not ALL republicans) have fully embraced it....

My perception is you have strong characteristics of both "utilitarianism" and "effective altruism" - both GOOD (moral) qualities, among others.  I wish more people moved in that direction...

 
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Google can eat a dick, but the dancing synchronized Turkey's today looks pretty cool...it's nice Russia isn't around to give them a wretched score

 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2]Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @fubah2 It is telling how times have changed and how brazen and lawless some people are. Decades back there was real fear of prosecution and penalty from publishing, reporting even suggesting slanderous claims without PROOF. Now its whatever the crap goes and especially for those with 10 layers of lawyers and opaque PAC cash to spend if there are actual charges ever considered to be brought. Remember even as far back as Watergate that those reporters did not break the story without substantial proof and evidence that would be iron clad in court. Now it is say whatever you want without recourse even if it harms someone. It helps when the someone being harmed has no resources to defend themselves and the zero bully can stomp all over them and have no fear of reprisal or prison time. Now media empires have too much power and individuals do not respect society and our legal system. The fact that the only tool of respect is financial impact means that anyone with deep pockets can wreck anyone they deem as a threat or even worse destroy someone just to get attention and votes.

 

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Agreed.  peace_5

Actually WSC, to me it's depressing how society has recently morphed.  Personally I wish deliberately misstating facts and/or casting disparaging inuendo and/or outright LIES - effusing BS statements not supported by factual evidence, and not even cast against an individual per se, would be grounds for legal pursuit, akin to screaming (falsely) "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater.  Yes, it is wishful fantasy, however, because of much of what you allude to.... our society is permitted to lie and mislead and misinform.... It's clearly morally WRONG, but nevertheless permitted... Technically such permissiveness has always been that way but rarely elevated as an issue of disgust in and of itself like today.....most people restrained themselves from that putrid behavior, perhaps as a matter of conforming to a christian-like devotion to good morals....to BEING a good, moral person.....

In this country, not near as much anymore... an_lightAnd the decline became palpably noticeable in mid-2016, with a slow but steady DOWNWARD trajectory continuing to this day. All of America and perhaps the world as well, is worse off for it. 

"FUCK morals! FUCK respect! FUCK fair-play! FUCK truth!" Just say whatever the hell one wants, whenever the hell one wants, and TOWARD whomever one wants! angry Morals and respect be damned!!! trumpism has made that MAGA-philosophy okay...and his followers (but not ALL republicans!) have fully embraced it thumbs_down

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[Quote: Originally Posted by fubah2]Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @fubah2 It is telling how times have changed and how brazen and lawless some people are. Decades back there was real fear of prosecution and penalty from publishing, reporting even suggesting slanderous claims without PROOF. Now its whatever the crap goes and especially for those with 10 layers of lawyers and opaque PAC cash to spend if there are actual charges ever considered to be brought. Remember even as far back as Watergate that those reporters did not break the story without substantial proof and evidence that would be iron clad in court. Now it is say whatever you want without recourse even if it harms someone. It helps when the someone being harmed has no resources to defend themselves and the zero bully can stomp all over them and have no fear of reprisal or prison time. Now media empires have too much power and individuals do not respect society and our legal system. The fact that the only tool of respect is financial impact means that anyone with deep pockets can wreck anyone they deem as a threat or even worse destroy someone just to get attention and votes.

 

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Agreed.  peace_5

Actually WSC, to me it's depressing how society has recently morphed.  Personally I wish deliberately misstating facts and/or casting disparaging inuendo and/or outright LIES - effusing BS statements not supported by factual evidence, and not even cast against an individual per se, would be grounds for legal pursuit, akin to screaming (falsely) "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater.  Yes, it is wishful fantasy, however, because of much of what you allude to.... our society is permitted to lie and mislead and misinform.... It's clearly morally WRONG, but nevertheless permitted... Technically such permissiveness has always been that way but rarely elevated as an issue of disgust in and of itself like today.....most people restrained themselves from that putrid behavior, perhaps as a matter of conforming to a christian-like devotion to good morals....to BEING a good, moral person.....

In this country, not near as much anymore... an_lightAnd the decline became palpably noticeable in mid-2016, with a slow but steady DOWNWARD trajectory continuing to this day. All of America and perhaps the world as well, is worse off for it. 

"FUCK morals! FUCK respect! FUCK fair-play! FUCK truth!" Just say whatever the hell one wants, whenever the hell one wants, and TOWARD whomever one wants! angry Morals and respect be damned!!! trumpism has made that MAGA-philosophy okay...and his followers (but not ALL republicans!) have fully embraced it thumbs_down

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @fubah2 It is telling how times have changed and how brazen and lawless some people are. Decades back there was real fear of prosecution and penalty from publishing, reporting even suggesting slanderous claims without PROOF. Now its whatever the crap goes and especially for those with 10 layers of lawyers and opaque PAC cash to spend if there are actual charges ever considered to be brought. Remember even as far back as Watergate that those reporters did not break the story without substantial proof and evidence that would be iron clad in court. Now it is say whatever you want without recourse even if it harms someone. It helps when the someone being harmed has no resources to defend themselves and the zero bully can stomp all over them and have no fear of reprisal or prison time. Now media empires have too much power and individuals do not respect society and our legal system. The fact that the only tool of respect is financial impact means that anyone with deep pockets can wreck anyone they deem as a threat or even worse destroy someone just to get attention and votes.   @wallstreetcappers Agreed.  Actually WSC, to me it's depressing how society has recently morphed.  Personally I wish deliberately misstating facts and/or casting disparaging inuendo and/or outright LIES - effusing BS statements not supported by factual evidence, and not even cast against an individual per se, would be grounds for legal pursuit, akin to screaming (falsely) "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater.  Yes, it is wishful fantasy, however, because of much of what you allude to.... our society is permitted to lie and mislead and misinform.... It's clearly morally WRONG, but nevertheless permitted... Technically such permissiveness has always been that way but rarely elevated as an issue of disgust in and of itself like today.....most people restrained themselves from that putrid behavior, perhaps as a matter of conforming to a christian-like devotion to good morals....to BEING a good, moral person..... In this country, not near as much anymore... And the decline became palpably noticeable in mid-2016, with a slow but steady DOWNWARD trajectory continuing to this day. All of America and perhaps the world as well, is worse off for it.  "FUCK morals! FUCK respect! FUCK fair-play! FUCK truth!" Just say whatever the hell one wants, whenever the hell one wants, and TOWARD whomever one wants!  Morals and respect be damned!!! trumpism has made that MAGA-philosophy okay...and his followers (but not ALL republicans!) have fully embraced it

 

A very big thank you to you! A very nice and accurate depiction of CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS and ABC! Have you listened to little George Stephanopoulos lately?

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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @fubah2 It is telling how times have changed and how brazen and lawless some people are. Decades back there was real fear of prosecution and penalty from publishing, reporting even suggesting slanderous claims without PROOF. Now its whatever the crap goes and especially for those with 10 layers of lawyers and opaque PAC cash to spend if there are actual charges ever considered to be brought. Remember even as far back as Watergate that those reporters did not break the story without substantial proof and evidence that would be iron clad in court. Now it is say whatever you want without recourse even if it harms someone. It helps when the someone being harmed has no resources to defend themselves and the zero bully can stomp all over them and have no fear of reprisal or prison time. Now media empires have too much power and individuals do not respect society and our legal system. The fact that the only tool of respect is financial impact means that anyone with deep pockets can wreck anyone they deem as a threat or even worse destroy someone just to get attention and votes.   @wallstreetcappers Agreed.  Actually WSC, to me it's depressing how society has recently morphed.  Personally I wish deliberately misstating facts and/or casting disparaging inuendo and/or outright LIES - effusing BS statements not supported by factual evidence, and not even cast against an individual per se, would be grounds for legal pursuit, akin to screaming (falsely) "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater.  Yes, it is wishful fantasy, however, because of much of what you allude to.... our society is permitted to lie and mislead and misinform.... It's clearly morally WRONG, but nevertheless permitted... Technically such permissiveness has always been that way but rarely elevated as an issue of disgust in and of itself like today.....most people restrained themselves from that putrid behavior, perhaps as a matter of conforming to a christian-like devotion to good morals....to BEING a good, moral person..... In this country, not near as much anymore... And the decline became palpably noticeable in mid-2016, with a slow but steady DOWNWARD trajectory continuing to this day. All of America and perhaps the world as well, is worse off for it.  "FUCK morals! FUCK respect! FUCK fair-play! FUCK truth!" Just say whatever the hell one wants, whenever the hell one wants, and TOWARD whomever one wants!  Morals and respect be damned!!! trumpism has made that MAGA-philosophy okay...and his followers (but not ALL republicans!) have fully embraced it

 

A very big thank you to you! A very nice and accurate depiction of CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS and ABC! Have you listened to little George Stephanopoulos lately?

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