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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: ' republican blunder'  being the operative and completely applicable term here .                   "One more year, or five more years, of U.S. military presence              would not have made a difference    if the Afghan military              cannot or will not hold its own country,"                                                                        - President Biden wrote in a statement from Camp David NOTE:The U.S.-trained and well-equipped Afghan military was said to number 300,000compared to estimates of only 75,000 for the Taliban rebel forces.  

 

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trump had negotiated with the Taliban so the US could leave before May 01Having been alerted by trump, the Taliban had plenty of time to prepare

yep     rump planned the same thing

only difference is he met with taliban leaders to BEG THEM to not shoot at us before he fled the country by may i

 

 

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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

 

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: ' republican blunder'  being the operative and completely applicable term here .                   "One more year, or five more years, of U.S. military presence              would not have made a difference    if the Afghan military              cannot or will not hold its own country,"                                                                        - President Biden wrote in a statement from Camp David NOTE:The U.S.-trained and well-equipped Afghan military was said to number 300,000compared to estimates of only 75,000 for the Taliban rebel forces.  

 

 

NOTE #2:

trump had negotiated with the Taliban so the US could leave before May 01Having been alerted by trump, the Taliban had plenty of time to prepare

 

yep     rump planned the same thing

only difference is he met with taliban leaders to BEG THEM to not shoot at us before he fled the country by may i

 

Is it true that trump actually got down on one knee to beg the Taliban for a truce until he could evacuate by May?

 
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Agreed Biden was in horrible spot and ultimately made the correct decision ……. He shouldn’t have claimed though that they would be able to take on the Taliban without the US…. In my view, the fact that they didn’t even fight supports that Biden was right to get out and that we should have never gone there in the first place
 
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This is major. God literally just shoved a pipe bomb up the keister of the cabal and lit a fast moving fuse. BOOM! All credibility went out the window in a nano-second. Even the Left knows it. The fake Covid narrative just took a backseat to reality. EVERYTHING horrible those monsters have done to we the people is now magnified 1000 time over. Why? Because Kabul is going to be a bloodbath. Prayers for the trapped Americans. This is horrific, but O'Biden and crew OWN IT in spades. MILLEY! YOU are toast ace. Somebody is going under the bus to save Biden and it may be many.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

Agreed Biden was in horrible spot and ultimately made the correct decision ……. He shouldn’t have claimed though that they would be able to take on the Taliban without the US…. In my view, the fact that they didn’t even fight supports that Biden was right to get out and that we should have never gone there in the first place

 

yep            the republicans own it

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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

 

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: ' republican blunder'  being the operative and completely applicable term here .                   "

 

 

One more year, or five more years, of U.S. military presence              would not have made a difference    if the Afghan military              cannot or will not hold its own country,"                                                                        - President Biden wrote in a statement from Camp David NOTE:The U.S.-trained and well-equipped Afghan military was said to number 300,000compared to estimates of only 75,000 for the Taliban rebel forces.  

 

NOTE #2:

trump had negotiated with the Taliban so the US could leave before May 01Having been alerted by trump, the Taliban had plenty of time to prepare

 

yep     rump planned the same thing

only difference is he met with taliban leaders to BEG THEM to not shoot at us before he fled the country by may i

 

 

Is it true that trump actually got down on one knee to beg the Taliban for a truce until he could evacuate by May?

i heard that the rump deal with the taliban leaders is they would not shoot americans departing but only if rump agreed to abandon all afghan nationals who helped our military the past 18 yrs

rump agreed

 

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History,  Afghanistan has been at war since at least 3000  bc it controls the land route from the silk road trade.  

China traded with Europe and Egypt via an overland land road called the silk road. 

 The area has been conquered ruled and retake through out time. Wars with India Mesopotamia Babylon Greece time the monguls huns Russia Britain Pakistan and when not warring with others then an ongoing civil war reemerges. 

Afghanistan is locked in an ongoing conflict. 

Same problems poverty lack of education and the intolerance of women or intellectuals has led the government back to Sunni Taliban control. 

China traded with Afghanistan for many centuries.  Each holding kin to Attila the hun and ganges Khan the seem to be warming the idea of future trade agreements if the Taliban can bring peace to the country.  Chinese investments are within reach.... Afghanistan is sitting on the largest oil field in the world. No way to extract it or utilize the resource hence Chinese investments are needed to harness the commodity. 

 
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Can you imagine the fake outrage Democrats would be spewing if Trump left Afghanistan like this? 

Democrats aren’t capable of being honest with themselves. 

I laugh. 

 
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The Taliban’s official spokesman has a blue tick Twitter account.

Former president of the USA, Donald Trump’s account is suspended.

That’s where we are at right now.

 
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Cost of damage caused by 9-11: 
2,977 lives
$40 billion

Cost of the reaction:
400,000 + lives (10,000+ Americans)
$4 trillion +
20 years “War on Terror”
The Patriot Act, creation of the TSA, DHS, reduction of freedoms, tarnished global reputation
Creation of new terrorists

 
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

Is it true that trump actually got down on one knee to beg the Taliban for a truce until he could evacuate by May?

 

 

i heard that the rump deal with the taliban leaders is they would not shoot americans departing but only if rump agreed to abandon all afghan nationals who helped our military the past 18 yrs

rump agreed

 

Sounds exactly like him.

Sells out our allies.    AGAIN!

Since trump's meeting with them in Feb 2020 the Taliban have had  1.5 years to prepare for this departure.

 

 
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"The fact that the Taliban is using US-based servers to run its terror state and nobody in the Biden Administration has thought to disconnect it, even as U.S. forces flee in disarray, is a strategic blunder on par with Pearl Harbor."

The United States' disastrous evacuation continues today; U.S. social media companies continue to provide full services to our enemies

 

https://twitter.com/zabehulah_m33/status/1427126736026836995?s=21

 

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Crazy to see the people over there clinging to the outside of departing planes and then falling 1000 feet a few minutes after takeoff 

https://twitter.com/macaesbruno/status/1427203034426322944?s=21

https://twitter.com/wargabiasalah/status/1427205884048908290?s=21

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

Quote Originally Posted by shiek: Agreed Biden was in horrible spot and ultimately made the correct decision ……. He shouldn’t have claimed though that they would be able to take on the Taliban without the US…. In my view, the fact that they didn’t even fight supports that Biden was right to get out and that we should have never gone there in the first place  

 

 

yep            the republicans own it

EXACTLY!

No matter what happens, it never would have happened in the first place if not for the initial REPUBLICAN BLUNDER 20 years ago.

Bottom line.

 

 
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Nobody supported “the blunder” more than Democratic Senator Joe Biden 

 

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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

 
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

 

Quote Originally Posted by shiek: Agreed Biden was in horrible spot and ultimately made the correct decision ……. He shouldn’t have claimed though that they would be able to take on the Taliban without the US…. In my view, the fact that they didn’t even fight supports that Biden was right to get out and that we should have never gone there in the first place  

 

 

yep            the republicans own it

 

EXACTLY!

No matter what happens, it never would have happened in the first place if not for the initial REPUBLICAN BLUNDER 20 years ago.

Bottom line.

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Its all on republican heads.

And of course, trump giving the Taliban a 1.5 year heads up just made everything worse.

As usual.

 
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Joe Biden 

US Senator 1973-2009 

Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee 2001-2009 

Vice President 2009-2017 

President 2021 

Fubah: “It’s Trump’s fault” 

 

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kudos to president biden for getting us out of a deadly and extremely expensive 20 yr war that the republicans plunged us into  an_clap

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NEW - Biden admin, which is currently on vacation, disregarded assessments of several intelligence agencies that consistently predicted the rapid Taliban takeover of Afghanistan, U.S. officials tell ABC.

 
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“They’re chanting ‘Death to America’ but they seem friendly”?

We’re literally living in an episode of South Park.

https://twitter.com/nuffsaidny/status/1427285034801713160?s=21

 

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Sorry yes Bush and idiot Cheney deserve most of the blame but Obama and Dems have their hands all over this. While I give Biden credit for getting us out he’s deservedly getting skewered cuz he represented that the Afghans could do it on their own .
 
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

kudos to president biden for getting us out of a deadly and extremely expensive 20 yr war that the republicans plunged us into

Exactly.  KUDOS! We had to get the hell out of that disaster.

Trump was going to take us out by May 1, but the American public kicked him out of office.

Either way we are getting out of a 20 year occupation/nation building we NEVER should have gotten into in the first place.

Only regret I have is the Biden admin could and should have quietly begun rescuing our Afghan allies out of there much earlier  - before announcing withdrawal date.

 
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My god… 

This thread is worse than I could’ve imagined.  Some of you might as well live on the moon based on your perceptions of reality.  
Your Holographic leader will address our Nation in about 30 mins.  Let’s see if he will take any accountability for this generational debacle.  The blowhards around here sure want to put blame on people who haven’t been in control of these decisions in years…

Time is a flat circle....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

NEW - Biden admin, which is currently on vacation, disregarded assessments of several intelligence agencies that consistently predicted the rapid Taliban takeover of Afghanistan, U.S. officials tell ABC.

Give Fupah and his clan some time, their own media brethren cannot even protect this administration from this foreign policy disaster.  The national media and international cannot and will not cover up the reality and truth of this epic policy blunder.  They are currently all in denial.  The wave that is coming they will not be able to defend.  

Time is a flat circle....
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: kudos to president biden for getting us out of a deadly and extremely expensive 20 yr war that the republicans plunged us into Exactly.  KUDOS! We had to get the hell out of that disaster. Trump was going to take us out by May 1, but the American public kicked him out of office. Either way we are getting out of a 20 year occupation/nation building we NEVER should have gotten into in the first place. Only regret I have is the Biden admin could and should have quietly begun rescuing our Afghan allies out of there much earlier  - before announcing withdrawal date.

yep .  huge disaster the republicans caused

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