3 days till th real election begins

If you do not include the largest voting state in the country then Trump wins easy..

What kind of stupid logic is that? It goes against all of these so-called constitution ramblings you guys have from time to time.

With the EC a vote is not equal from state to state, you cannot exclude California or Penn or Florida or Arizona...that logic is just plain stupid.

I say cut loose the EC and let the votes flow into a national count, forget the state and district for a presidential election..then MY vote down here means something and a repub vote in Calif means something.

This isnt difficult...but please spare the "If Calif didnt count" garbage, it is beneath both of you.

amending the constitution is about the most difficult feats known to politicians,

it isn't some okie dokie thing as executive action or repeal of an executive order.

why would smaller states give up their piece of the election. California has the most electorates any way. 

Conservatives will not relinquish a better position for nothing in return

even if it is the right thing.

Liberals would give their position away for the greater good.

if you are not conservative when you get older you have no brain.

-Winston Churchill

Checkmate 

Because you say the word???

You are funny, go throw angry tantrums when someone does not agree with you, make things personal..claim victory when people are not paying attention to you. How fun!

You are wrong in the assumption that is why I did not reply to you directly..it made no sense, and was beneath you to even say what you did.

It is as if you claim Trump was underfunded and not interested in California so he didnt try, but if he HAD wanted to of course he could have done so because he is Trump of course so obviously if he wanted to win the popular vote he could have.

What a load of crap...you think Trump had ANY shot at California at any time? I dont care if he spent 50 million only in California, his mouth cost him 10 times that in negative publicity, he never stood a shot. So spare me the "if he had focused on the popular vote" schtick it makes no sense. He had many cards fall his way at the end, Clinton shot herself in the foot and he caught ALL the breaks he needed to win, that is what happened.

Yeah Trump had this all planned out like a bettor does...he knew all along that every single swing he needed would come in, but then if this was so obvious then I guess all those books were pretty clueless and like to give money away.

You crack me up...congrats on your checkmate win, you really impressed everyone. I think you belong on the Trump team, they need your intellect to guide the nation for the next four years.

Interesting how you put so many words in my mouth .. words that I not only did not say, but words that I would not say because I believe them to be false.

I wasn't talking about California, but since you brought it up I will offer my opinion as it relates to the point I so aptly made in post #48.

If the end game is to win the EC vote, you campaign accordingly.

If the end game is to win the popular vote, you campaign accordingly.

The 2 campaigns are distinctly different.

Trump knew he could not win California, so spent $0 there.

This is called 'campaigning to win the Electoral College vote' 

If the election was going to be determined by the popular vote, then I'm sure Trump would have campaigned in California, not to "win the state" as you sarcastically pointed out, but simply to gain some votes.

I trust that this makes sense.

I will not address the shots/insults that you aimed my way.

I recognize that you are still frazzled by the election results, so I forgive you ... but I will say this ...

Ed, may you and yours have a wonderful holiday season 

GAME ... SET ... MATCH!!! 

When someone goes off the deep end as you have several times in public it is easy to tell that there is much more not seen and I am quite sure that is a fact with regards to you.

I think it is wise for you to stick to other message boards and the penalty box when hurling insults and crude comments as you have, that suits your weak personality and your inability to hold a heated or pointed debate without cracking.

All these years you have never seen me act even remotely as crude and disgusting as you and many of your friends, that is in no way a sign of what my abilities are with regard to debating, what it shows is that some people are able to stay above such things irregardless of really vile and personal attacks, and others are just not capable.

Just because someone isnt ruthless and disgusting doesnt mean they are not quite capable of what you are suggesting but in a respectful and civil way.

Ed, did you just whine about me insulting others .... while you were insulting me? 

Merry Christmas, Ed 

You mean how you and your fellow right wingers got behind Obama?

Oh super cute, you after all these years and so many personal jabs at me trying to play the victim role...

If insulting you is pointing out your years of attacks and insults and how I have not and will not do that, I guess in your silly world it is an insult, but funny how you can dish it as you have and still try to act like you are being insulted. 

Nothing I said was an insult, you have done every single thing I listed and many more, I dont care if you like being called out as it seems you started the whole thing as you always do.

Watching you all cry like little girls has been a wonderful thing. Thank you

Doubtful i imagine. Crazies need other crazies nearby to keep from killing themselves.

So are you saying you like the EC because you got the guy in you wanted or you think the whole system is in working order from an election perspective?

Should a vote mean the same irregardless of where you live or not? To me that is the only issue.

Anywhere in the country a vote should not be negated from another because you live in a state that is slighted strongly to either party, that is anti-freedom and any system that rewards vote negating should be improved.

Which is exactly why we have the EC and not the will of an easily manipulated populace and thus prevent entrenched power. want   Which becomes so much easier to accomplish when you can make your whole platform handouts, illegal alien voters, and a media totally complicit.  Thats the road to total control. You want a dictator in the future of this country, you go ahead and get rid of the EC

We live in a republic, it's not a true democracy and it never has been. 

and now you want to change it because you can't stomach Donald Trump 

take a deep breath and think a little bit. 

Look at this and tell me you still want to abolish the EC.