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    20 Reasons trump LOSES Reelection (That all Liberals and all Centrists Will Understand)

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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2020 - 7:19 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Meanwhile my very elderly Mom called trump to win 2016 too and SHE was right! (despite voting for Hillary) However this time she said Joe Biden will win.

     

    who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ? an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Meanwhile my very elderly Mom called trump to win 2016 too and SHE was right! (despite voting for Hillary) However this time she said Joe Biden will win.

     

    who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ? an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2020 - 7:49 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:    who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ?
    Biden.Just kidding fubah,Im old so I get a pass to kinda kid about us old timers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:    who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ?
    Biden.Just kidding fubah,Im old so I get a pass to kinda kid about us old timers.

     
    BuckFalls
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2020 - 8:49 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:    who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ?Biden.Just kidding fubah,Im old so I get a pass to kinda kid about us old timers.
    Its like

    Me:"Hey ma who you likin in the bears-saints game tomorrow"?

    Ma:"I already told you,Biden".

    Me:"Ya thats who I thought to,thanks ma".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:    who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ?Biden.Just kidding fubah,Im old so I get a pass to kinda kid about us old timers.
    Its like

    Me:"Hey ma who you likin in the bears-saints game tomorrow"?

    Ma:"I already told you,Biden".

    Me:"Ya thats who I thought to,thanks ma".

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2020 - 8:21 AM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls:

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:    who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ?Biden.Just kidding fubah,Im old so I get a pass to kinda kid about us old timers.Its like Me:"Hey ma who you likin in the bears-saints game tomorrow"? Ma:"I already told you,Biden". Me:"Ya thats who I thought to,thanks ma".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls:

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckFalls: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:    who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ?Biden.Just kidding fubah,Im old so I get a pass to kinda kid about us old timers.Its like Me:"Hey ma who you likin in the bears-saints game tomorrow"? Ma:"I already told you,Biden". Me:"Ya thats who I thought to,thanks ma".

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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2020 - 8:53 AM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Meanwhile my very elderly Mom called trump to win 2016 too and SHE was right! (despite voting for Hillary) However this time she said Joe Biden will win.  

     

    who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ?

     

    She said:   "daaaaaa Bears"

    She also likes Cleveland

    And  the Packers on the moneyline

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Meanwhile my very elderly Mom called trump to win 2016 too and SHE was right! (despite voting for Hillary) However this time she said Joe Biden will win.  

     

    who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ?

     

    She said:   "daaaaaa Bears"

    She also likes Cleveland

    And  the Packers on the moneyline

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2020 - 10:09 AM ET #81

    Honestly I dont give a f**k.  Here is the guarantee you can take to the bank by nov 4 midnight there will not be clear winner the votes will be delayed and Trump will go to the state courts and even so much as the supreme court in order to win. Trump will not contest ok. Get this through your knuckle heads. You might not even know anything until January. Even comedian Bill Maher and former SNL actor senator Al Franken could not even come to a absolute conclusion of what exactly will happen with the election.The argument was if Trump loses does he still stay in. Ask yourself why would they have Trump at almost +200  if Trump is not going to admit defeat? Possible because there may not be an outcome or the outcome may be delayed.If a NFL team said this kind of crap they would be laughed out of town. You just dont say things like this.No I'm not with either party im just for using common sense.i hate to say it but if you think think voting makes changes they wouldn't allow you to vote.

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    Honestly I dont give a f**k.  Here is the guarantee you can take to the bank by nov 4 midnight there will not be clear winner the votes will be delayed and Trump will go to the state courts and even so much as the supreme court in order to win. Trump will not contest ok. Get this through your knuckle heads. You might not even know anything until January. Even comedian Bill Maher and former SNL actor senator Al Franken could not even come to a absolute conclusion of what exactly will happen with the election.The argument was if Trump loses does he still stay in. Ask yourself why would they have Trump at almost +200  if Trump is not going to admit defeat? Possible because there may not be an outcome or the outcome may be delayed.If a NFL team said this kind of crap they would be laughed out of town. You just dont say things like this.No I'm not with either party im just for using common sense.i hate to say it but if you think think voting makes changes they wouldn't allow you to vote.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2020 - 10:16 AM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Meanwhile my very elderly Mom called trump to win 2016 too and SHE was right! (despite voting for Hillary) However this time she said Joe Biden will win.     who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ?  

     

    She said: "daaaaaa Bears"

    She also likes Cleveland

    And the Packers on the moneyline

                  thumbs_up  moneybag

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Meanwhile my very elderly Mom called trump to win 2016 too and SHE was right! (despite voting for Hillary) However this time she said Joe Biden will win.     who does your elderly mom like in the saints/bears game tomorrow ?  

     

    She said: "daaaaaa Bears"

    She also likes Cleveland

    And the Packers on the moneyline

                  thumbs_up  moneybag

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2020 - 10:34 AM ET #83

    Decisive Biden victory?

    USA TODAY
    As the race enters the home stretch, the USA TODAY average of averages,
    which is based on data from RealClearPolitics and FiveThirtyEight,
    finds Biden up +8.3 percentage points over Trump nationally.
    That is nearly a full point higher than Biden was at the end of September.

    The polls were also shifting in Trump's favor ahead of his upset win
    over Hillary Clinton in 2016, but that trend was more pronounced and
    her lead was not as big as Biden's heading into the election.
    Four days before Election Day in 2016, Clinton's average lead
    was only about +2.1 percentage points.
    She earned nearly 3 million more votes.

    If the states end up breaking according to their current polling averages,
    and assuming the non-swing states go the way they did in 2016,
    Biden would win decisively in the Electoral College, even if he lost Ohio.

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    Decisive Biden victory?

    USA TODAY
    As the race enters the home stretch, the USA TODAY average of averages,
    which is based on data from RealClearPolitics and FiveThirtyEight,
    finds Biden up +8.3 percentage points over Trump nationally.
    That is nearly a full point higher than Biden was at the end of September.

    The polls were also shifting in Trump's favor ahead of his upset win
    over Hillary Clinton in 2016, but that trend was more pronounced and
    her lead was not as big as Biden's heading into the election.
    Four days before Election Day in 2016, Clinton's average lead
    was only about +2.1 percentage points.
    She earned nearly 3 million more votes.

    If the states end up breaking according to their current polling averages,
    and assuming the non-swing states go the way they did in 2016,
    Biden would win decisively in the Electoral College, even if he lost Ohio.

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2020 - 12:24 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Decisive Biden victory?

    USA TODAY
    As the race enters the home stretch, the USA TODAY average of averages,
    which is based on data from RealClearPolitics and FiveThirtyEight,
    finds Biden up +8.3 percentage points over Trump nationally.
    That is nearly a full point higher than Biden was at the end of September.

    The polls were also shifting in Trump's favor ahead of his upset win
    over Hillary Clinton in 2016, but that trend was more pronounced and
    her lead was not as big as Biden's heading into the election.
    Four days before Election Day in 2016, Clinton's average lead
    was only about +2.1 percentage points.
    She earned nearly 3 million more votes.

    If the states end up breaking according to their current polling averages,
    and assuming the non-swing states go the way they did in 2016,
    Biden would win decisively in the Electoral College, even if he lost Ohio.

     

    so hillary was up 2.1 pts in the closing days and won 3million more votes

    and biden is up 8 pts

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Decisive Biden victory?

    USA TODAY
    As the race enters the home stretch, the USA TODAY average of averages,
    which is based on data from RealClearPolitics and FiveThirtyEight,
    finds Biden up +8.3 percentage points over Trump nationally.
    That is nearly a full point higher than Biden was at the end of September.

    The polls were also shifting in Trump's favor ahead of his upset win
    over Hillary Clinton in 2016, but that trend was more pronounced and
    her lead was not as big as Biden's heading into the election.
    Four days before Election Day in 2016, Clinton's average lead
    was only about +2.1 percentage points.
    She earned nearly 3 million more votes.

    If the states end up breaking according to their current polling averages,
    and assuming the non-swing states go the way they did in 2016,
    Biden would win decisively in the Electoral College, even if he lost Ohio.

     

    so hillary was up 2.1 pts in the closing days and won 3million more votes

    and biden is up 8 pts

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2020 - 2:34 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Decisive Biden victory? USA TODAYAs the race enters the home stretch, the USA TODAY average of averages, which is based on data from RealClearPolitics and FiveThirtyEight, finds Biden up +8.3 percentage points over Trump nationally. That is nearly a full point higher than Biden was at the end of September. The polls were also shifting in Trump's favor ahead of his upset win over Hillary Clinton in 2016, but that trend was more pronounced and her lead was not as big as Biden's heading into the election. Four days before Election Day in 2016, Clinton's average lead was only about +2.1 percentage points. She earned nearly 3 million more votes. If the states end up breaking according to their current polling averages, and assuming the non-swing states go the way they did in 2016, Biden would win decisively in the Electoral College, even if he lost Ohio.  

     

    so hillary was up 2.1 pts in the closing days and won 3million more votes and biden is up 8 pts

    Tha's correct, yes.

    Simple logic suggests the margin of national vote victory for Biden will be significantly larger.

    Unless of course trump and DeJoys efforts to derail mail in votes works in his favor,

    as well as the extensive efforts by REPUBLICAN Governors to supress the minority vote works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Decisive Biden victory? USA TODAYAs the race enters the home stretch, the USA TODAY average of averages, which is based on data from RealClearPolitics and FiveThirtyEight, finds Biden up +8.3 percentage points over Trump nationally. That is nearly a full point higher than Biden was at the end of September. The polls were also shifting in Trump's favor ahead of his upset win over Hillary Clinton in 2016, but that trend was more pronounced and her lead was not as big as Biden's heading into the election. Four days before Election Day in 2016, Clinton's average lead was only about +2.1 percentage points. She earned nearly 3 million more votes. If the states end up breaking according to their current polling averages, and assuming the non-swing states go the way they did in 2016, Biden would win decisively in the Electoral College, even if he lost Ohio.  

     

    so hillary was up 2.1 pts in the closing days and won 3million more votes and biden is up 8 pts

    Tha's correct, yes.

    Simple logic suggests the margin of national vote victory for Biden will be significantly larger.

    Unless of course trump and DeJoys efforts to derail mail in votes works in his favor,

    as well as the extensive efforts by REPUBLICAN Governors to supress the minority vote works.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2020 - 7:37 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Decisive Biden victory? USA TODAYAs the race enters the home stretch, the USA TODAY average of averages, which is based on data from RealClearPolitics and FiveThirtyEight, finds Biden up +8.3 percentage points over Trump nationally. That is nearly a full point higher than Biden was at the end of September. The polls were also shifting in Trump's favor ahead of his upset win over Hillary Clinton in 2016, but that trend was more pronounced and her lead was not as big as Biden's heading into the election. Four days before Election Day in 2016, Clinton's average lead was only about +2.1 percentage points. She earned nearly 3 million more votes. If the states end up breaking according to their current polling averages, and assuming the non-swing states go the way they did in 2016, Biden would win decisively in the Electoral College, even if he lost Ohio.     so hillary was up 2.1 pts in the closing days and won 3million more votes and biden is up 8 pts Tha's correct, yes. Simple logic suggests the margin of national vote victory for Biden will be significantly larger. Unless of course trump and DeJoys efforts to derail mail in votes works in his favor, as well as the extensive efforts by REPUBLICAN Governors to supress the minority vote works.

    Professor who accurately predicted
    every election since 1984
    says Biden *will* beat Trump!

     

    FOX NEWS:   https://tinyurl.com/yy8m6drr
    A renowned presidential election prognosticator has predicted that former
    Vice President Joe Biden *will* defeat President Trump in November.

    Historian Allan Lichtman, who correctly called the winner in each election
    between 1984 and 2012, told The New York Times Wednesday his
    "Keys to the White House" metric points toward a win for the Democrat
    and Trump becoming the first one-term president since George H.W. Bush.

    "Voters vote pragmatically according to how well the party holding
    the White House has governed the country," explained Lichtman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Decisive Biden victory? USA TODAYAs the race enters the home stretch, the USA TODAY average of averages, which is based on data from RealClearPolitics and FiveThirtyEight, finds Biden up +8.3 percentage points over Trump nationally. That is nearly a full point higher than Biden was at the end of September. The polls were also shifting in Trump's favor ahead of his upset win over Hillary Clinton in 2016, but that trend was more pronounced and her lead was not as big as Biden's heading into the election. Four days before Election Day in 2016, Clinton's average lead was only about +2.1 percentage points. She earned nearly 3 million more votes. If the states end up breaking according to their current polling averages, and assuming the non-swing states go the way they did in 2016, Biden would win decisively in the Electoral College, even if he lost Ohio.     so hillary was up 2.1 pts in the closing days and won 3million more votes and biden is up 8 pts Tha's correct, yes. Simple logic suggests the margin of national vote victory for Biden will be significantly larger. Unless of course trump and DeJoys efforts to derail mail in votes works in his favor, as well as the extensive efforts by REPUBLICAN Governors to supress the minority vote works.

    Professor who accurately predicted
    every election since 1984
    says Biden *will* beat Trump!

     

    FOX NEWS:   https://tinyurl.com/yy8m6drr
    A renowned presidential election prognosticator has predicted that former
    Vice President Joe Biden *will* defeat President Trump in November.

    Historian Allan Lichtman, who correctly called the winner in each election
    between 1984 and 2012, told The New York Times Wednesday his
    "Keys to the White House" metric points toward a win for the Democrat
    and Trump becoming the first one-term president since George H.W. Bush.

    "Voters vote pragmatically according to how well the party holding
    the White House has governed the country," explained Lichtman.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by undefined:

    Professor who accurately predicted
    every election since 1984
    says Biden *will* beat Trump!

     

    FOX NEWS:   https://tinyurl.com/yy8m6drr
    A renowned presidential election prognosticator has predicted that former
    Vice President Joe Biden *will* defeat President Trump in November.

    Historian Allan Lichtman, who correctly called the winner in each election
    between 1984 and 2012, told The New York Times Wednesday his
    "Keys to the White House" metric points toward a win for the Democrat
    and Trump becoming the first one-term president since George H.W. Bush.

    "Voters vote pragmatically according to how well the party holding
    the White House has governed the country," explained Lichtman.

     

    fox news presenting the goods         this time     thumbs_up

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    Quote Originally Posted by undefined:

    Professor who accurately predicted
    every election since 1984
    says Biden *will* beat Trump!

     

    FOX NEWS:   https://tinyurl.com/yy8m6drr
    A renowned presidential election prognosticator has predicted that former
    Vice President Joe Biden *will* defeat President Trump in November.

    Historian Allan Lichtman, who correctly called the winner in each election
    between 1984 and 2012, told The New York Times Wednesday his
    "Keys to the White House" metric points toward a win for the Democrat
    and Trump becoming the first one-term president since George H.W. Bush.

    "Voters vote pragmatically according to how well the party holding
    the White House has governed the country," explained Lichtman.

     

    fox news presenting the goods         this time     thumbs_up

     
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    "All he does is talk about Covid, Covid," Trump said of Biden.
    "He has nothing else to talk about. ... We agree it's serious
    and we've done an INCREDIBLE job. And at some point
    they are going to recognize that." -- Dr."bleach" adolf trump

    NOV 1:
    the trump's REPUBLICAN-regime deluded perception of what
    "we've done an INCREDIBLE job" looks like = 713 deaths per million

    Compare ...

    Japan         = 14 per million
    Taiwan       = .3 per million
    Hong Kong = 14 per million
    S. Korea    =  9 per million

    Stat source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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    "All he does is talk about Covid, Covid," Trump said of Biden.
    "He has nothing else to talk about. ... We agree it's serious
    and we've done an INCREDIBLE job. And at some point
    they are going to recognize that." -- Dr."bleach" adolf trump

    NOV 1:
    the trump's REPUBLICAN-regime deluded perception of what
    "we've done an INCREDIBLE job" looks like = 713 deaths per million

    Compare ...

    Japan         = 14 per million
    Taiwan       = .3 per million
    Hong Kong = 14 per million
    S. Korea    =  9 per million

    Stat source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2020 - 9:44 PM ET #89

    Ohio GOP governor says he follows Fauci and Birx
    who 'have given very good guidance' on Covid-19

    Ohio Republican Gov. Mike DeWine said Sunday that he follows the
    "very good guidance" given by White House coronavirus task members
    Dr. Deborah Birx and Dr. Anthony Fauci, as the voice of another task
    force member whose advice on the pandemic is at odds with the public
    health experts has gained prominence.

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    Ohio GOP governor says he follows Fauci and Birx
    who 'have given very good guidance' on Covid-19

    Ohio Republican Gov. Mike DeWine said Sunday that he follows the
    "very good guidance" given by White House coronavirus task members
    Dr. Deborah Birx and Dr. Anthony Fauci, as the voice of another task
    force member whose advice on the pandemic is at odds with the public
    health experts has gained prominence.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2020 - 3:49 AM ET #90

    Sun, November 1, 2020

    (Reuters) - Democrat Joe Biden's lead over U.S. President Donald Trump
    has widened a little in the final days of the 2020 campaign in three critical
    Rust Belt states that Trump narrowly won four years ago, according
    to Reuters/Ipsos opinion polls released Sunday.

    Biden leads Trump by 10 percentage points in Wisconsin and Michigan,
    and the presidential nominee is ahead by seven points in Pennsylvania.
    Biden has led Trump in all three states in every Reuters/Ipsos weekly
    poll that began in mid-September, and his leads have ticked higher in
    each state over the past two weeks.

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    Sun, November 1, 2020

    (Reuters) - Democrat Joe Biden's lead over U.S. President Donald Trump
    has widened a little in the final days of the 2020 campaign in three critical
    Rust Belt states that Trump narrowly won four years ago, according
    to Reuters/Ipsos opinion polls released Sunday.

    Biden leads Trump by 10 percentage points in Wisconsin and Michigan,
    and the presidential nominee is ahead by seven points in Pennsylvania.
    Biden has led Trump in all three states in every Reuters/Ipsos weekly
    poll that began in mid-September, and his leads have ticked higher in
    each state over the past two weeks.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2020 - 6:28 AM ET #91

    Clinton had a NEGATIVE favorability of -12 pts, and scored 3 million more votes.
    Biden's favorability rating is net *POSITIVE* +11

    Note: Hillary was +3.0 pts within 4 days of 2016 election, and finished +2.1 pts
    At the same point, Joe Biden is up +7.5 pts...

    +7.4 @270 to win
    +7.6 @RealClearPolitics
    +8.5 @FiveThirtyEight

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    Clinton had a NEGATIVE favorability of -12 pts, and scored 3 million more votes.
    Biden's favorability rating is net *POSITIVE* +11

    Note: Hillary was +3.0 pts within 4 days of 2016 election, and finished +2.1 pts
    At the same point, Joe Biden is up +7.5 pts...

    +7.4 @270 to win
    +7.6 @RealClearPolitics
    +8.5 @FiveThirtyEight

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2020 - 12:09 PM ET #92

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Clinton had a NEGATIVE favorability of -12 pts, and scored 3 million more votes.
    Biden's favorability rating is net *POSITIVE* +11

    Note: Hillary was +3.0 pts within 4 days of 2016 election, and finished +2.1 pts
    At the same point, Joe Biden is up +7.5 pts...

    +7.4 @270 to win
    +7.6 @RealClearPolitics
    +8.5 @FiveThirtyEight

    clear as it gets   moneybag

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Clinton had a NEGATIVE favorability of -12 pts, and scored 3 million more votes.
    Biden's favorability rating is net *POSITIVE* +11

    Note: Hillary was +3.0 pts within 4 days of 2016 election, and finished +2.1 pts
    At the same point, Joe Biden is up +7.5 pts...

    +7.4 @270 to win
    +7.6 @RealClearPolitics
    +8.5 @FiveThirtyEight

    clear as it gets   moneybag

     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2020 - 1:53 PM ET #93

    Trump Can Still Win, But
    The Polls Would Have To Be Off
    By Waaaaay More Than In 2016

     

    By Nate Silver of Five ThirtyEight

    I’ve seen enough based on the polls we got earlier this week to know that
    things aren’t likely to change all that much in our forecast between now
    and just after midnight on Tuesday.

    There just hasn’t been any real sign that the race is tightening.
    If anything, Joe Biden’s margins are expanding slightly in the Upper Midwest.
    And there isn’t any particular reason to expect the race to tighten when more
    than 93 million people have already voted and the most important news story
    — that the US just set a world record for the number of COVID-19 cases in a day
    — is a negative one for Trump.

    Reply

    Trump Can Still Win, But
    The Polls Would Have To Be Off
    By Waaaaay More Than In 2016

     

    By Nate Silver of Five ThirtyEight

    I’ve seen enough based on the polls we got earlier this week to know that
    things aren’t likely to change all that much in our forecast between now
    and just after midnight on Tuesday.

    There just hasn’t been any real sign that the race is tightening.
    If anything, Joe Biden’s margins are expanding slightly in the Upper Midwest.
    And there isn’t any particular reason to expect the race to tighten when more
    than 93 million people have already voted and the most important news story
    — that the US just set a world record for the number of COVID-19 cases in a day
    — is a negative one for Trump.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump Can Still Win, But The Polls Would Have To Be Off By Waaaaay More Than In 2016   By Nate Silver of Five ThirtyEight I’ve seen enough based on the polls we got earlier this week to know that things aren’t likely to change all that much in our forecast between now and just after midnight on Tuesday. There just hasn’t been any real sign that the race is tightening. If anything, Joe Biden’s margins are expanding slightly in the Upper Midwest. And there isn’t any particular reason to expect the race to tighten when more than 93 million people have already voted and the most important news story — that the US just set a world record for the number of COVID-19 cases in a day — is a negative one for Trump.


    Trump isn’t in as strong a position as he was in 2016.
    He’s polling worse than he was against Clinton in every battleground state.
    Polls can be wrong but they’re more likely to be wrong when a candidate’s
    lead is narrower.

    As of right now, Biden’s lead is large enough that
    Trump’s chances of winning are 10 percent,

    considerably lower than the 35 percent chance he had at this point in 2016.


    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump Can Still Win, But The Polls Would Have To Be Off By Waaaaay More Than In 2016   By Nate Silver of Five ThirtyEight I’ve seen enough based on the polls we got earlier this week to know that things aren’t likely to change all that much in our forecast between now and just after midnight on Tuesday. There just hasn’t been any real sign that the race is tightening. If anything, Joe Biden’s margins are expanding slightly in the Upper Midwest. And there isn’t any particular reason to expect the race to tighten when more than 93 million people have already voted and the most important news story — that the US just set a world record for the number of COVID-19 cases in a day — is a negative one for Trump.


    Trump isn’t in as strong a position as he was in 2016.
    He’s polling worse than he was against Clinton in every battleground state.
    Polls can be wrong but they’re more likely to be wrong when a candidate’s
    lead is narrower.

    As of right now, Biden’s lead is large enough that
    Trump’s chances of winning are 10 percent,

    considerably lower than the 35 percent chance he had at this point in 2016.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2020 - 3:10 PM ET #95

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump Can Still Win, But
    The Polls Would Have To Be Off
    By Waaaaay More Than In 2016

     

    there is nothing indicating this is even remotely close to happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Trump Can Still Win, But
    The Polls Would Have To Be Off
    By Waaaaay More Than In 2016

     

    there is nothing indicating this is even remotely close to happening

     
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    I know this won't go over easy here, tough group but wanted to say...

    #1 - I don’t think most here understand the difference between liberal and conservative policy. You can go look it up yourself but in layman’s terms the conservatives (unlike the liberals) believe in limited government and are pro-individualism. They don’t attempt to control your every move, they don’t create policies and make you comply, instead they allow you to think for yourself and they let the free market dictate what society needs (every policy our government institutes, like Obama Care as the most recent example, ends up in a colossal disaster and only punishes the working class). So go ahead cast your vote for Biden if you like the government controlling you and you want to pay more taxes for their ineffective policies.

    #2 - If anyone can tell us a plan to eradicate the virus without ruining the finances of this country then we’d all listen. So you know though, Biden won’t change a thing when it comes to the virus because the governors are calling the shots …but even if he got elected and made us all crawl into a bunker, eventually, most will be bitter towards him too because nobody on the planet has the right answer for this virus. 

    #3 - Just be an independent thinker, stop feeding into the negative information being disseminated by the main stream media and vote for what you truly want. Less policy (taxes) & more freedom! [image from unapproved source]

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    I know this won't go over easy here, tough group but wanted to say...

    #1 - I don’t think most here understand the difference between liberal and conservative policy. You can go look it up yourself but in layman’s terms the conservatives (unlike the liberals) believe in limited government and are pro-individualism. They don’t attempt to control your every move, they don’t create policies and make you comply, instead they allow you to think for yourself and they let the free market dictate what society needs (every policy our government institutes, like Obama Care as the most recent example, ends up in a colossal disaster and only punishes the working class). So go ahead cast your vote for Biden if you like the government controlling you and you want to pay more taxes for their ineffective policies.

    #2 - If anyone can tell us a plan to eradicate the virus without ruining the finances of this country then we’d all listen. So you know though, Biden won’t change a thing when it comes to the virus because the governors are calling the shots …but even if he got elected and made us all crawl into a bunker, eventually, most will be bitter towards him too because nobody on the planet has the right answer for this virus. 

    #3 - Just be an independent thinker, stop feeding into the negative information being disseminated by the main stream media and vote for what you truly want. Less policy (taxes) & more freedom! [image from unapproved source]

     
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    image was suppose to be an American flag

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    image was suppose to be an American flag

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass:

    I know this won't go over easy here, tough group but wanted to say... #1 - I don’t think most here understand the difference between liberal and conservative policy. You can go look it up yourself but in layman’s terms the conservatives (unlike the liberals) believe in limited government and are pro-individualism. They don’t attempt to control your every move, they don’t create policies and make you comply, instead they allow you to think for yourself and they let the free market dictate what society needs (every policy our government institutes, like Obama Care as the most recent example, ends up in a colossal disaster and only punishes the working class). So go ahead cast your vote for Biden if you like the government controlling you and you want to pay more taxes for their ineffective policies. #2 - If anyone can tell us a plan to eradicate the virus without ruining the finances of this country then we’d all listen. So you know though, Biden won’t change a thing when it comes to the virus because the governors are calling the shots …but even if he got elected and made us all crawl into a bunker, eventually, most will be bitter towards him too because nobody on the planet has the right answer for this virus.  #3 - Just be an independent thinker, stop feeding into the negative information being disseminated by the main stream media and vote for what you truly want. Less policy (taxes) & more freedom! [image from unapproved source]

    a lot of Americans died on the battlefield to protect your right to post that

    rump called them   losers   and   suckers 

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass:

    I know this won't go over easy here, tough group but wanted to say... #1 - I don’t think most here understand the difference between liberal and conservative policy. You can go look it up yourself but in layman’s terms the conservatives (unlike the liberals) believe in limited government and are pro-individualism. They don’t attempt to control your every move, they don’t create policies and make you comply, instead they allow you to think for yourself and they let the free market dictate what society needs (every policy our government institutes, like Obama Care as the most recent example, ends up in a colossal disaster and only punishes the working class). So go ahead cast your vote for Biden if you like the government controlling you and you want to pay more taxes for their ineffective policies. #2 - If anyone can tell us a plan to eradicate the virus without ruining the finances of this country then we’d all listen. So you know though, Biden won’t change a thing when it comes to the virus because the governors are calling the shots …but even if he got elected and made us all crawl into a bunker, eventually, most will be bitter towards him too because nobody on the planet has the right answer for this virus.  #3 - Just be an independent thinker, stop feeding into the negative information being disseminated by the main stream media and vote for what you truly want. Less policy (taxes) & more freedom! [image from unapproved source]

    a lot of Americans died on the battlefield to protect your right to post that

    rump called them   losers   and   suckers 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: I know this won't go over easy here, tough group but wanted to say... #1 - I don’t think most here understand the difference between liberal and conservative policy. You can go look it up yourself but in layman’s terms the conservatives (unlike the liberals) believe in limited government and are pro-individualism. They don’t attempt to control your every move, they don’t create policies and make you comply, instead they allow you to think for yourself and they let the free market dictate what society needs (every policy our government institutes, like Obama Care as the most recent example, ends up in a colossal disaster and only punishes the working class). So go ahead cast your vote for Biden if you like the government controlling you and you want to pay more taxes for their ineffective policies. #2 - If anyone can tell us a plan to eradicate the virus without ruining the finances of this country then we’d all listen. So you know though, Biden won’t change a thing when it comes to the virus because the governors are calling the shots …but even if he got elected and made us all crawl into a bunker, eventually, most will be bitter towards him too because nobody on the planet has the right answer for this virus.  #3 - Just be an independent thinker, stop feeding into the negative information being disseminated by the main stream media and vote for what you truly want. Less policy (taxes) & more freedom! [image from unapproved source]

     

    a lot of Americans died on the battlefield to protect your right to post that

    rump called them   losers   and   suckers

     

    Trump is a disgrace to all of us who have served.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by nostradumbass: I know this won't go over easy here, tough group but wanted to say... #1 - I don’t think most here understand the difference between liberal and conservative policy. You can go look it up yourself but in layman’s terms the conservatives (unlike the liberals) believe in limited government and are pro-individualism. They don’t attempt to control your every move, they don’t create policies and make you comply, instead they allow you to think for yourself and they let the free market dictate what society needs (every policy our government institutes, like Obama Care as the most recent example, ends up in a colossal disaster and only punishes the working class). So go ahead cast your vote for Biden if you like the government controlling you and you want to pay more taxes for their ineffective policies. #2 - If anyone can tell us a plan to eradicate the virus without ruining the finances of this country then we’d all listen. So you know though, Biden won’t change a thing when it comes to the virus because the governors are calling the shots …but even if he got elected and made us all crawl into a bunker, eventually, most will be bitter towards him too because nobody on the planet has the right answer for this virus.  #3 - Just be an independent thinker, stop feeding into the negative information being disseminated by the main stream media and vote for what you truly want. Less policy (taxes) & more freedom! [image from unapproved source]

     

    a lot of Americans died on the battlefield to protect your right to post that

    rump called them   losers   and   suckers

     

    Trump is a disgrace to all of us who have served.

     
     
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    20 reasons? You mean how many things can I waste my time on.....and still be incorrect?

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    20 reasons? You mean how many things can I waste my time on.....and still be incorrect?

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