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    The Suckout that Hurts Worst

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    WerderFan
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2009 - 3:06 AM ET #1

    there's 2 for me... drumroll please...
     
    first off, and this is the lesser of 2, is when you have best hand but 4 to a flush come on the board and some doofus has like a 3 of that suit and you lose
     
    but the real kicker, the one that drives me absolutely insane
     
    you go all in with AK, or KQ, or QJ, and the other guy has (respectfully) AQ, KJ, or Q10 (or a lower 2nd card) and his dominated hand hits the 3 outer and you lose. I friggin cannot STAND when that happens, and when you get eliminated on that, wow, what misery.
     
    Yes, I just lost a tournament with my KQ to his KJ, J on the river.
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    there's 2 for me... drumroll please...
     
    first off, and this is the lesser of 2, is when you have best hand but 4 to a flush come on the board and some doofus has like a 3 of that suit and you lose
     
    but the real kicker, the one that drives me absolutely insane
     
    you go all in with AK, or KQ, or QJ, and the other guy has (respectfully) AQ, KJ, or Q10 (or a lower 2nd card) and his dominated hand hits the 3 outer and you lose. I friggin cannot STAND when that happens, and when you get eliminated on that, wow, what misery.
     
    Yes, I just lost a tournament with my KQ to his KJ, J on the river.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2009 - 12:39 PM ET #2

    just lost a-10 to a-9 in a heads up sit n go... battling till the blinds got real big, both of us went all in with me having a little larger stack... he crippled me and then it was lights out
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    just lost a-10 to a-9 in a heads up sit n go... battling till the blinds got real big, both of us went all in with me having a little larger stack... he crippled me and then it was lights out
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2009 - 12:42 PM ET #3

    haha another 300 chip turbo sit n go
     
    3 all ins
     
    i have 10 10
     
    another guy has 7 8
     
    another guy has 9c ks
     
    4 spades on the board and king high flush wins ...
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    haha another 300 chip turbo sit n go
     
    3 all ins
     
    i have 10 10
     
    another guy has 7 8
     
    another guy has 9c ks
     
    4 spades on the board and king high flush wins ...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2009 - 12:48 PM ET #4

    i know these arent bad suckouts, and i know there are way worse, but these are common ones that really just piss me off... and i just got 2 back to back within minutes
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    i know these arent bad suckouts, and i know there are way worse, but these are common ones that really just piss me off... and i just got 2 back to back within minutes
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2009 - 5:10 PM ET #5

    I hate this one (not really a suckout because you were behind) but when the $ goes in you had the best hand so its bad

    say someone raises with AK  u call with A 10
    You flop 2 pairs .

    A,10,7 is the flop

    Money goes all in after the flop

    then runner, runner Jacks or Queens and you get counterfeited . thats a bad way to lose
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    I hate this one (not really a suckout because you were behind) but when the $ goes in you had the best hand so its bad

    say someone raises with AK  u call with A 10
    You flop 2 pairs .

    A,10,7 is the flop

    Money goes all in after the flop

    then runner, runner Jacks or Queens and you get counterfeited . thats a bad way to lose
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2009 - 6:21 PM ET #6

    or how about this
     
     
    say you have like 98 suited
     
    flop comes
     
    a 9 8
     
    all in, call
     
    other guy has ak
     
    turn and river are the same card, like 2 2
     
    your two pair loses
     
    or.......
     
    when you have bottom 2 pair and the top card pairs
     
    for instance, you have 67 suited
     
    flop comes j67
     
    turn J
     
    you're pretty much drawing dead if someone is playing strong with the 2nd jack on the board
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    or how about this
     
     
    say you have like 98 suited
     
    flop comes
     
    a 9 8
     
    all in, call
     
    other guy has ak
     
    turn and river are the same card, like 2 2
     
    your two pair loses
     
    or.......
     
    when you have bottom 2 pair and the top card pairs
     
    for instance, you have 67 suited
     
    flop comes j67
     
    turn J
     
    you're pretty much drawing dead if someone is playing strong with the 2nd jack on the board
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2009 - 12:13 AM ET #7

    For me it's when you have TP or 2 pr and you get it all in on the flop, your TP vs MP or 2 pr vs TP and villian spikes on the turn, just fuking brutal.  As fast as your emotions go up your shoulders come down.
     
    Not so much a bad beat since it's 60/40 or 55/45, but when a donk makes a total donk call and spikes on you.  Either you have a big Ace vs K10 or Q5 and the donk snap calls for 2/3's his starting stack or you shove with a lower/mid PP and he flips over J10 or a 78 and he is flipping a coin.
     
    Even if a calling station is spewing his chips to you it still pisses me of because the guy is just calling down with ridiculous hands, that's at least rewarding but it's still like WTF is this guy doing?
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    For me it's when you have TP or 2 pr and you get it all in on the flop, your TP vs MP or 2 pr vs TP and villian spikes on the turn, just fuking brutal.  As fast as your emotions go up your shoulders come down.
     
    Not so much a bad beat since it's 60/40 or 55/45, but when a donk makes a total donk call and spikes on you.  Either you have a big Ace vs K10 or Q5 and the donk snap calls for 2/3's his starting stack or you shove with a lower/mid PP and he flips over J10 or a 78 and he is flipping a coin.
     
    Even if a calling station is spewing his chips to you it still pisses me of because the guy is just calling down with ridiculous hands, that's at least rewarding but it's still like WTF is this guy doing?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2009 - 1:16 PM ET #8

    Getting sucked out on when you have someone dominated is no fun, but it's not like the guy is drawing dead.  Still over 20-25%...a little over a 3:1 favorite (depnding on suits and the actual cards) is nice, but it's not like a dominated hand can't win.  Happens plenty. 
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    Getting sucked out on when you have someone dominated is no fun, but it's not like the guy is drawing dead.  Still over 20-25%...a little over a 3:1 favorite (depnding on suits and the actual cards) is nice, but it's not like a dominated hand can't win.  Happens plenty. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2009 - 1:37 PM ET #9

    I know hutch, my point isn't to say its a miracle bad beat or anything, its just frustrating as shit to lose a tournament that way
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    I know hutch, my point isn't to say its a miracle bad beat or anything, its just frustrating as shit to lose a tournament that way
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2009 - 10:42 PM ET #10

    What about when you have A8 and the flop comes T88.  You bet and get a call.  Then the turn is a T
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    What about when you have A8 and the flop comes T88.  You bet and get a call.  Then the turn is a T
     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 2:56 PM ET #11

    AA   vs A10
    flop 10 8 7
    I bet 180 he goes all in and of course i Call
    runner runner diamond for him to get a flush.
    unreal
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    AA   vs A10
    flop 10 8 7
    I bet 180 he goes all in and of course i Call
    runner runner diamond for him to get a flush.
    unreal
     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 3:04 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    What about when you have A8 and the flop comes T88.  You bet and get a call.  Then the turn is a T

    I had that happen at the 1/2 NL just sat down in BB with 108 another guy limps flop A88 I check raise him and he comes back over the top and flips over AK turns an A to take away my $200 buy in.  I was STEAMING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    What about when you have A8 and the flop comes T88.  You bet and get a call.  Then the turn is a T

    I had that happen at the 1/2 NL just sat down in BB with 108 another guy limps flop A88 I check raise him and he comes back over the top and flips over AK turns an A to take away my $200 buy in.  I was STEAMING.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2009 - 10:51 PM ET #13

    How about when a guy goes all in (2800 chips) with K Q off suit.

    I am licking my chops with A A and I call. Well the flop comes K 7 Q and the turn and river don't help me.

    I was livid 
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    How about when a guy goes all in (2800 chips) with K Q off suit.

    I am licking my chops with A A and I call. Well the flop comes K 7 Q and the turn and river don't help me.

    I was livid 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2009 - 3:41 AM ET #14

    2/5 NL  I'm sitting with about $800
     
    I have Kc, Ks UTG I make it $20 to go with two callers. 
     
    Flop comes 10d, 7d, 2c
     
    I bet $60, next guy folds, enemy makes it $200 straight.
     
    I raise all-in...He thinks about until someone at the table calls a clock on him and he calls.
     
    two red jacks.
     
    River = diamond, diamond
     
     
     
     
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    2/5 NL  I'm sitting with about $800
     
    I have Kc, Ks UTG I make it $20 to go with two callers. 
     
    Flop comes 10d, 7d, 2c
     
    I bet $60, next guy folds, enemy makes it $200 straight.
     
    I raise all-in...He thinks about until someone at the table calls a clock on him and he calls.
     
    two red jacks.
     
    River = diamond, diamond
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2009 - 9:04 AM ET #15

    ouch cincy... thats exactly what I'm talking bout... fucking BRUTAL
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    ouch cincy... thats exactly what I'm talking bout... fucking BRUTAL
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2009 - 11:02 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by CincyWillie:

    2/5 NL  I'm sitting with about $800
     
    I have Kc, Ks UTG I make it $20 to go with two callers. 
     
    Flop comes 10d, 7d, 2c
     
    I bet $60, next guy folds, enemy makes it $200 straight.
     
    I raise all-in...He thinks about until someone at the table calls a clock on him and he calls.
     
    two red jacks.
     
    River = diamond, diamond
     
     
     
     


    But honestly, so much value if you hit.. if i had two red Jacks I would call too. I would probably put them on AA/KK but still just to suck them out for a huge pot, it's just a gamble. and in the back of my head i would think you could be holding AK. i dunno 11 outs is fine for me to call all-in with LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CincyWillie:

    2/5 NL  I'm sitting with about $800
     
    I have Kc, Ks UTG I make it $20 to go with two callers. 
     
    Flop comes 10d, 7d, 2c
     
    I bet $60, next guy folds, enemy makes it $200 straight.
     
    I raise all-in...He thinks about until someone at the table calls a clock on him and he calls.
     
    two red jacks.
     
    River = diamond, diamond
     
     
     
     


    But honestly, so much value if you hit.. if i had two red Jacks I would call too. I would probably put them on AA/KK but still just to suck them out for a huge pot, it's just a gamble. and in the back of my head i would think you could be holding AK. i dunno 11 outs is fine for me to call all-in with LOL.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2009 - 11:05 PM ET #18

    i know there are more than the two jack outs but how you arrive at the specific number 11 is ?
     
    but I guess that's poker.. he could go runner runner straight with the jacks too... fucking crazy game
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    i know there are more than the two jack outs but how you arrive at the specific number 11 is ?
     
    but I guess that's poker.. he could go runner runner straight with the jacks too... fucking crazy game
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by deejank:



    But honestly, so much value if you hit.. if i had two red Jacks I would call too. I would probably put them on AA/KK but still just to suck them out for a huge pot, it's just a gamble. and in the back of my head i would think you could be holding AK. i dunno 11 outs is fine for me to call all-in with LOL.

    The only hand he would have been a favorite over after the flop would have been an under pair, and you are calling the rest of your stack on that?

     

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    But honestly, so much value if you hit.. if i had two red Jacks I would call too. I would probably put them on AA/KK but still just to suck them out for a huge pot, it's just a gamble. and in the back of my head i would think you could be holding AK. i dunno 11 outs is fine for me to call all-in with LOL.

    The only hand he would have been a favorite over after the flop would have been an under pair, and you are calling the rest of your stack on that?

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2009 - 1:44 AM ET #20

    Then even if did put me on KK/AA/AK like you say, you are calling the rest of your stack that one of my cards isn't a diamond?
     
     
     
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    Then even if did put me on KK/AA/AK like you say, you are calling the rest of your stack that one of my cards isn't a diamond?
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2009 - 8:44 AM ET #21

    no you are all wrongs I have lost the most money online when I flop trips vs 2 pair and they boat on the river...lost alot of money online to that bs
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    no you are all wrongs I have lost the most money online when I flop trips vs 2 pair and they boat on the river...lost alot of money online to that bs
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2009 - 9:32 AM ET #22

    how bout when you flop 2 pair, someone has an overpair, and then the board pairs on the river to give them a better two pair than you had. that sucks
     
    or if you do the classic coinflip scenario, say you got pocket 9's, vs ak or something, and the board 2 pairs jacks and queens and their ace kicker wins... that sucks too
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    how bout when you flop 2 pair, someone has an overpair, and then the board pairs on the river to give them a better two pair than you had. that sucks
     
    or if you do the classic coinflip scenario, say you got pocket 9's, vs ak or something, and the board 2 pairs jacks and queens and their ace kicker wins... that sucks too
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2009 - 2:57 PM ET #23

    another great one you have ace-strong kicker
     
    and some guy is in with like ace -4 suited
     
    sure as shit the flop comes
     
    a48 lights out for you maybe
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    another great one you have ace-strong kicker
     
    and some guy is in with like ace -4 suited
     
    sure as shit the flop comes
     
    a48 lights out for you maybe
     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2009 - 2:15 PM ET #24

    A-10 vs J-10 flop is 10-4-7   all in , call    turn 10, river J
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    A-10 vs J-10 flop is 10-4-7   all in , call    turn 10, river J
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2009 - 7:50 PM ET #25

    flop J 10 3
     
    me jj
     
    another 10 10
     
    and another 33!!
     
    turn 3
     
    killed by the quads
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    flop J 10 3
     
    me jj
     
    another 10 10
     
    and another 33!!
     
    turn 3
     
    killed by the quads
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