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    AceDeuceShipIt
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2009 - 3:12 PM ET #26

    Ya ya I know he could have hit a 10 or a J to boat up as well, I just needed to blow off steam like every poker player in the world but fuck it I don't care this shit happens and its not like I'm gonna stop playing, and you canadians wonder why Americans sit around and laugh at you. Thanks for taking time out of you day to investigate and bash me on the internet LOL.
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    Ya ya I know he could have hit a 10 or a J to boat up as well, I just needed to blow off steam like every poker player in the world but fuck it I don't care this shit happens and its not like I'm gonna stop playing, and you canadians wonder why Americans sit around and laugh at you. Thanks for taking time out of you day to investigate and bash me on the internet LOL.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2009 - 6:39 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by AceDeuceShipIt:

    Ya ya I know he could have hit a 10 or a J to boat up as well, I just needed to blow off steam like every poker player in the world but fuck it I don't care this shit happens and its not like I'm gonna stop playing, and you canadians wonder why Americans sit around and laugh at you. Thanks for taking time out of you day to investigate and bash me on the internet LOL.

    Actually that is no mystery at all.....it's do to a lack of education.

    Did you have to sit down with a deck of cards to figure out he had 9 outs instead of 1 out. 

    Maybe you should write a book on how to deposit $100 and cash out $900 by playing for dimes and quarters while still having a minus 100% ROI.    I bet it would sell big in Texas.

      SHIP IT

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceDeuceShipIt:

    Ya ya I know he could have hit a 10 or a J to boat up as well, I just needed to blow off steam like every poker player in the world but fuck it I don't care this shit happens and its not like I'm gonna stop playing, and you canadians wonder why Americans sit around and laugh at you. Thanks for taking time out of you day to investigate and bash me on the internet LOL.

    Actually that is no mystery at all.....it's do to a lack of education.

    Did you have to sit down with a deck of cards to figure out he had 9 outs instead of 1 out. 

    Maybe you should write a book on how to deposit $100 and cash out $900 by playing for dimes and quarters while still having a minus 100% ROI.    I bet it would sell big in Texas.

      SHIP IT

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2009 - 8:54 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by cyalx:



    and about 8 k of that is rivered after rivered i took all my money out im done online

    Sorry, cylax, I got to call you out as a full on donkey.

    You win 24k playing lower stake tourneys and in 1 month you have givin 8k of it back?  Nobody runs that bad unless you moved up in stakes and are playing out of your league, which I would bet is the case.  So you win 240 buy ins assuming $100 tourneys and within 1 month you have lost 80 buyins?  Bull shit.  Even if that is the case(which I'm sure it's not) you are still up 160 buyins in 40 days? 

    What the fuk kind of profit are you looking to get?  You fall into #8 of why a donkey thinks online poker is rigged.  8) Go on a rush bankroll goes up 4 buyins, move up in stakes, you cool off, and you lose 2 buyins but now you are even or down money. That is why I don't believe any of the stupid bull shit you guys come up with, you guy just are not winning players and are trying to justify why you lose.

    Post your hand histories of the last month worth of playing and you will be shown to as a donkey.  That's a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyalx:



    and about 8 k of that is rivered after rivered i took all my money out im done online

    Sorry, cylax, I got to call you out as a full on donkey.

    You win 24k playing lower stake tourneys and in 1 month you have givin 8k of it back?  Nobody runs that bad unless you moved up in stakes and are playing out of your league, which I would bet is the case.  So you win 240 buy ins assuming $100 tourneys and within 1 month you have lost 80 buyins?  Bull shit.  Even if that is the case(which I'm sure it's not) you are still up 160 buyins in 40 days? 

    What the fuk kind of profit are you looking to get?  You fall into #8 of why a donkey thinks online poker is rigged.  8) Go on a rush bankroll goes up 4 buyins, move up in stakes, you cool off, and you lose 2 buyins but now you are even or down money. That is why I don't believe any of the stupid bull shit you guys come up with, you guy just are not winning players and are trying to justify why you lose.

    Post your hand histories of the last month worth of playing and you will be shown to as a donkey.  That's a fact.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2009 - 9:03 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:

    Sorry, cylax, I got to call you out as a full on donkey.

    You win 24k playing lower stake tourneys and in 1 month you have givin 8k of it back?  Nobody runs that bad unless you moved up in stakes and are playing out of your league, which I would bet is the case.  So you win 240 buy ins assuming $100 tourneys and within 1 month you have lost 80 buyins?  Bull shit.  Even if that is the case(which I'm sure it's not) you are still up 160 buyins in 40 days? 

    What the fuk kind of profit are you looking to get?  You fall into #8 of why a donkey thinks online poker is rigged.  8) Go on a rush bankroll goes up 4 buyins, move up in stakes, you cool off, and you lose 2 buyins but now you are even or down money. That is why I don't believe any of the stupid bull shit you guys come up with, you guy just are not winning players and are trying to justify why you lose.

    Post your hand histories of the last month worth of playing and you will be shown to as a donkey.  That's a fact.



    okay how do i post i will show u its sick
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    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:

    Sorry, cylax, I got to call you out as a full on donkey.

    You win 24k playing lower stake tourneys and in 1 month you have givin 8k of it back?  Nobody runs that bad unless you moved up in stakes and are playing out of your league, which I would bet is the case.  So you win 240 buy ins assuming $100 tourneys and within 1 month you have lost 80 buyins?  Bull shit.  Even if that is the case(which I'm sure it's not) you are still up 160 buyins in 40 days? 

    What the fuk kind of profit are you looking to get?  You fall into #8 of why a donkey thinks online poker is rigged.  8) Go on a rush bankroll goes up 4 buyins, move up in stakes, you cool off, and you lose 2 buyins but now you are even or down money. That is why I don't believe any of the stupid bull shit you guys come up with, you guy just are not winning players and are trying to justify why you lose.

    Post your hand histories of the last month worth of playing and you will be shown to as a donkey.  That's a fact.



    okay how do i post i will show u its sick
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2009 - 9:05 PM ET #30

    oh yeah and by the way i didnt move up in stakes i always play 30 60 limit or 40 80 limit sometimes 15 30 i play this live and online live i always play 40 80
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    oh yeah and by the way i didnt move up in stakes i always play 30 60 limit or 40 80 limit sometimes 15 30 i play this live and online live i always play 40 80
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2009 - 9:08 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by cyalx:



    okay how do i post i will show u its sick

    It doesn't swing on one hand or even several hands, if it does then you are playing at a level way out of your bankroll.  If you win 20 buyins at a lower level and and move up and lose 2-4 buyins but are even, you are still up 18 buy ins.  It doesn't matter if your AA gets cracked by 72 off.

    What level do you play at usually before your 2 big scores?  What level did you move up to after your big scores?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyalx:



    okay how do i post i will show u its sick

    It doesn't swing on one hand or even several hands, if it does then you are playing at a level way out of your bankroll.  If you win 20 buyins at a lower level and and move up and lose 2-4 buyins but are even, you are still up 18 buy ins.  It doesn't matter if your AA gets cracked by 72 off.

    What level do you play at usually before your 2 big scores?  What level did you move up to after your big scores?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2009 - 9:11 PM ET #32

    Also, your hand histories are not just about your bad beats, we all have those, if you play 500 hands and get 20 bad beats, how well you played in the other 480 shows more of what kind of player you are and if you would of won more or lost less or whatever for that session.
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    Also, your hand histories are not just about your bad beats, we all have those, if you play 500 hands and get 20 bad beats, how well you played in the other 480 shows more of what kind of player you are and if you would of won more or lost less or whatever for that session.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2009 - 9:42 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by cyalx:

    oh yeah and by the way i didnt move up in stakes i always play 30 60 limit or 40 80 limit sometimes 15 30 i play this live and online live i always play 40 80

    What is the buy in amount at 40/80 limit? $1000-$1600?  I don't see how you could lose 8 straight buy ins and none of it being your fault.

    If I lose 8 straight HU tourneys, 2-3 games I could of probably won or at least gave myself a much better shot at winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyalx:

    oh yeah and by the way i didnt move up in stakes i always play 30 60 limit or 40 80 limit sometimes 15 30 i play this live and online live i always play 40 80

    What is the buy in amount at 40/80 limit? $1000-$1600?  I don't see how you could lose 8 straight buy ins and none of it being your fault.

    If I lose 8 straight HU tourneys, 2-3 games I could of probably won or at least gave myself a much better shot at winning.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2009 - 4:47 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    Actually that is no mystery at all.....it's do to a lack of education.

    Did you have to sit down with a deck of cards to figure out he had 9 outs instead of 1 out. 

    Maybe you should write a book on how to deposit $100 and cash out $900 by playing for dimes and quarters while still having a minus 100% ROI.    I bet it would sell big in Texas.

      SHIP IT

     




    LOL lack of education, buddy I'm graduating college in a year, I see your education has done you well enough to log onto gambling forums and criticize people in your "spare" time find a better hobby and stop worrying about me, hopefully my degree will take me a little further in life
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    Actually that is no mystery at all.....it's do to a lack of education.

    Did you have to sit down with a deck of cards to figure out he had 9 outs instead of 1 out. 

    Maybe you should write a book on how to deposit $100 and cash out $900 by playing for dimes and quarters while still having a minus 100% ROI.    I bet it would sell big in Texas.

      SHIP IT

     




    LOL lack of education, buddy I'm graduating college in a year, I see your education has done you well enough to log onto gambling forums and criticize people in your "spare" time find a better hobby and stop worrying about me, hopefully my degree will take me a little further in life
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2009 - 11:18 AM ET #35

    As long as you don't need math,forming a proper sentence or any kind of knowledge about other countries .....I'm sure you will do well.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    No I don't want fries with that.   
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    As long as you don't need math,forming a proper sentence or any kind of knowledge about other countries .....I'm sure you will do well.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    No I don't want fries with that.   
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2009 - 1:37 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:

    What is the buy in amount at 40/80 limit? $1000-$1600?  I don't see how you could lose 8 straight buy ins and none of it being your fault.

    If I lose 8 straight HU tourneys, 2-3 games I could of probably won or at least gave myself a much better shot at winning.



    40 80 buy in 2500 i want lose 8 buy ins playin live at the borgata but i have lost 8 buy ins a number of times online that was nething but horrifis beats i cannot do anything different its just the software on these sites there either against u or with u im sticking 2 the borgata
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    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:

    What is the buy in amount at 40/80 limit? $1000-$1600?  I don't see how you could lose 8 straight buy ins and none of it being your fault.

    If I lose 8 straight HU tourneys, 2-3 games I could of probably won or at least gave myself a much better shot at winning.



    40 80 buy in 2500 i want lose 8 buy ins playin live at the borgata but i have lost 8 buy ins a number of times online that was nething but horrifis beats i cannot do anything different its just the software on these sites there either against u or with u im sticking 2 the borgata
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2009 - 1:39 PM ET #37

    if there is a way too show u hand history i will show u but i cant seem too get them 2 email this 2 me i have requested it
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    if there is a way too show u hand history i will show u but i cant seem too get them 2 email this 2 me i have requested it
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2009 - 6:28 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    As long as you don't need math,forming a proper sentence or any kind of knowledge about other countries .....I'm sure you will do well.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    No I don't want fries with that.   


    LOL if you really think I care about your opinion of my future, you must be canadian,


    canada aka AMERICA JR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    As long as you don't need math,forming a proper sentence or any kind of knowledge about other countries .....I'm sure you will do well.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    No I don't want fries with that.   


    LOL if you really think I care about your opinion of my future, you must be canadian,


    canada aka AMERICA JR.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2009 - 7:27 PM ET #39

     Texas graduate  = Canadian grade school.
     
     
    Go play some 10 cent tournaments so you can cash another $900 out Jethro.  
     
     
    Maybe POKERSTARS is giving you bad beats because they realize what a sharp player you are.
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    Go play some 10 cent tournaments so you can cash another $900 out Jethro.  
     
     
    Maybe POKERSTARS is giving you bad beats because they realize what a sharp player you are.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2009 - 7:52 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by cyalx:



    40 80 buy in 2500 i want lose 8 buy ins playin live at the borgata but i have lost 8 buy ins a number of times online that was nething but horrifis beats i cannot do anything different its just the software on these sites there either against u or with u im sticking 2 the borgata

    So you have lost 3 buy ins if you buy in for $2500?  That's nothing, add the fact you are up 16k for the month you are still great.  Playing online you see 4x as many hands as you do live.  You have lost 3 buyins, dude, 3 buy ins, you should bring at least 3 buyins when you go play live.  Your bankroll for NL should be 20x the buyin, not sure if Limit is more or less, so you should have $50k to play at the level you play at.

    Do you have it saving them(hand histories) to your computer as you play?

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    40 80 buy in 2500 i want lose 8 buy ins playin live at the borgata but i have lost 8 buy ins a number of times online that was nething but horrifis beats i cannot do anything different its just the software on these sites there either against u or with u im sticking 2 the borgata

    So you have lost 3 buy ins if you buy in for $2500?  That's nothing, add the fact you are up 16k for the month you are still great.  Playing online you see 4x as many hands as you do live.  You have lost 3 buyins, dude, 3 buy ins, you should bring at least 3 buyins when you go play live.  Your bankroll for NL should be 20x the buyin, not sure if Limit is more or less, so you should have $50k to play at the level you play at.

    Do you have it saving them(hand histories) to your computer as you play?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

     Texas graduate  = Canadian grade school.
     
     
    Go play some 10 cent tournaments so you can cash another $900 out Jethro.  
     
     
    Maybe POKERSTARS is giving you bad beats because they realize what a sharp player you are.


    lol man you really must be depressed or something, hopefully one day you find something that makes u happy (probably won't happen living in America Jr.) so you won't have to cruise cover's poker forums for errors and mistakes, I'm not coming back to this thread buddy, but I'm sorry I can't fill the void in your spare time between crying and masturbating

    COLDSNAP55 lol fucking douchebag
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

     Texas graduate  = Canadian grade school.
     
     
    Go play some 10 cent tournaments so you can cash another $900 out Jethro.  
     
     
    Maybe POKERSTARS is giving you bad beats because they realize what a sharp player you are.


    lol man you really must be depressed or something, hopefully one day you find something that makes u happy (probably won't happen living in America Jr.) so you won't have to cruise cover's poker forums for errors and mistakes, I'm not coming back to this thread buddy, but I'm sorry I can't fill the void in your spare time between crying and masturbating

    COLDSNAP55 lol fucking douchebag
     
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    At least you have found enough sense to see how incredibly idiotic your statements have been.
     
    I'd run too if I embarrassed myself like that.
     
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    At least you have found enough sense to see how incredibly idiotic your statements have been.
     
    I'd run too if I embarrassed myself like that.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2009 - 1:45 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:

    So you have lost 3 buy ins if you buy in for $2500?  That's nothing, add the fact you are up 16k for the month you are still great.  Playing online you see 4x as many hands as you do live.  You have lost 3 buyins, dude, 3 buy ins, you should bring at least 3 buyins when you go play live.  Your bankroll for NL should be 20x the buyin, not sure if Limit is more or less, so you should have $50k to play at the level you play at.

    Do you have it saving them(hand histories) to your computer as you play?




    yea your right 4 times as many hands and no i havent been saving hands 2 my computer when i play guesss i need 2 start thats for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:

    So you have lost 3 buy ins if you buy in for $2500?  That's nothing, add the fact you are up 16k for the month you are still great.  Playing online you see 4x as many hands as you do live.  You have lost 3 buyins, dude, 3 buy ins, you should bring at least 3 buyins when you go play live.  Your bankroll for NL should be 20x the buyin, not sure if Limit is more or less, so you should have $50k to play at the level you play at.

    Do you have it saving them(hand histories) to your computer as you play?




    yea your right 4 times as many hands and no i havent been saving hands 2 my computer when i play guesss i need 2 start thats for sure
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyalx:




    yea your right 4 times as many hands and no i havent been saving hands 2 my computer when i play guesss i need 2 start thats for sure

    There is a spot in the options menu that will start saving your hand histories for an x amount of days(365) but it is probably uncheck at the moment.  I thought mine was check awhile back and it wasn't, missed out on about 20-30k hands.

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    yea your right 4 times as many hands and no i havent been saving hands 2 my computer when i play guesss i need 2 start thats for sure

    There is a spot in the options menu that will start saving your hand histories for an x amount of days(365) but it is probably uncheck at the moment.  I thought mine was check awhile back and it wasn't, missed out on about 20-30k hands.

     
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    This is my opinion of online poker that i posted in another thread






    $20 sit n gos don't have to be rigged to have someone specific win. they can be rigged to finish as fast as possible to fill up another table. the faster they finish, the faster another one starts. the more money is made. when one figures how many sit n gos they have a day it is a nice profit to keep them moving along instead of backing up a table with two or three skilled players battling for a significant amount of time.

    i won't say the sites are ALL fixed, but where there is a lot of money to be made (or stolen) with little or no regulation, people will do it. look at how much ceo's and presidents of large companies embezzle. and they have people constantly watching them.

    Imagine what it's like where no one cares, no one is watching, or the people in charge of watching are on the take

    I was someone who consistently won online for 2 years. So i consider my opinion an unbiased one
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    This is my opinion of online poker that i posted in another thread






    $20 sit n gos don't have to be rigged to have someone specific win. they can be rigged to finish as fast as possible to fill up another table. the faster they finish, the faster another one starts. the more money is made. when one figures how many sit n gos they have a day it is a nice profit to keep them moving along instead of backing up a table with two or three skilled players battling for a significant amount of time.

    i won't say the sites are ALL fixed, but where there is a lot of money to be made (or stolen) with little or no regulation, people will do it. look at how much ceo's and presidents of large companies embezzle. and they have people constantly watching them.

    Imagine what it's like where no one cares, no one is watching, or the people in charge of watching are on the take

    I was someone who consistently won online for 2 years. So i consider my opinion an unbiased one
     
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    shit man full tilt is bad for me but do well at party-pkr
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    shit man full tilt is bad for me but do well at party-pkr
     
     
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    tough luck  AceDuece

    happens to me all the time. i hate it, but in my opinion Stars and Tilt are both one in the same.
    my college computer engineering professor told me that he believes RNG's that online pokersites use are nearly impossible to keep completely random. says that they are all programmed through math logarithms. almost like slots..(which are not random either)

    online poker is not an online card room, its a business just think about it.  if a great poker player wins every SNG, then someone else is going to lose everytime. therefore only one player is up and another is down. the winner cant play again until challenged again.. if he wins again then online doesnt make money (dead money).  the more they even out the winners/losers, the more money online poker makes for the house. otherwise itll be a monopoly.
     
    i think online is fixed in favor of the weaker players, bad players, loose-aggressive players, players who reload money to site more often.... to win at about 55% +/-  to stay +ev  but still be a losing player (counting rake). those are the guys feeding and profiting the online poker sites.  its like sometimes i can call out what cards will come out... almost patternized. think about the math if you are playing heads up SNG and you have AK, other has A8...what would be the chances of an A coming out on the flop, about 2-6% chance. however, we all see it online happen almost every other flop.. of course when you have AK they have A8 and the flop comes A410, 6, 8.  always happens when both are all in lol.
    onlnie SNG's to me are more like  action flops, they want them over quickly so they give action flops where everyone hits it to stay in the pot.... its all the same. 

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    tough luck  AceDuece

    happens to me all the time. i hate it, but in my opinion Stars and Tilt are both one in the same.
    my college computer engineering professor told me that he believes RNG's that online pokersites use are nearly impossible to keep completely random. says that they are all programmed through math logarithms. almost like slots..(which are not random either)

    online poker is not an online card room, its a business just think about it.  if a great poker player wins every SNG, then someone else is going to lose everytime. therefore only one player is up and another is down. the winner cant play again until challenged again.. if he wins again then online doesnt make money (dead money).  the more they even out the winners/losers, the more money online poker makes for the house. otherwise itll be a monopoly.
     
    i think online is fixed in favor of the weaker players, bad players, loose-aggressive players, players who reload money to site more often.... to win at about 55% +/-  to stay +ev  but still be a losing player (counting rake). those are the guys feeding and profiting the online poker sites.  its like sometimes i can call out what cards will come out... almost patternized. think about the math if you are playing heads up SNG and you have AK, other has A8...what would be the chances of an A coming out on the flop, about 2-6% chance. however, we all see it online happen almost every other flop.. of course when you have AK they have A8 and the flop comes A410, 6, 8.  always happens when both are all in lol.
    onlnie SNG's to me are more like  action flops, they want them over quickly so they give action flops where everyone hits it to stay in the pot.... its all the same. 

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