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    Ever had this happen to you at Full Tilt?

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 3:01 AM ET #1

    I'm sitting there at just a 1/3 no limit table and I'm pretty big after about 1.5 hours. A new guy sits at the table I'm at and he is clearly a horrible player as I take just a few pots from him. Well, I'm a folding machine and play position A LOT! I will only play out of position if I have something pretty damn good. Anyway, next thing I know, this same person is in on every pot that I'm in on, and I'd be sitting with A, K or A, Q, QQ and stuff like that. So we get into some big pots and FOUR times this VERY SAME PERSON takes my money on the River! They were unbelievable bad beats and it was four times in a row. Now even more odd than that is after I was EXACTLY back to the money amount in which I started, this 'person' left the table.

    It was honestly like a bot or like he could see my cards. More than that, it seemed like it was an Employee who was sent in to take down my winnings and then get the f*ck outta dodge. I've never seen anything like it before. This may sound really stupid, but it almost scares me off of Full Tilt enough to never go back there, even though I'm an above average poker player. Maybe I should have stuck to WPT.com
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    I'm sitting there at just a 1/3 no limit table and I'm pretty big after about 1.5 hours. A new guy sits at the table I'm at and he is clearly a horrible player as I take just a few pots from him. Well, I'm a folding machine and play position A LOT! I will only play out of position if I have something pretty damn good. Anyway, next thing I know, this same person is in on every pot that I'm in on, and I'd be sitting with A, K or A, Q, QQ and stuff like that. So we get into some big pots and FOUR times this VERY SAME PERSON takes my money on the River! They were unbelievable bad beats and it was four times in a row. Now even more odd than that is after I was EXACTLY back to the money amount in which I started, this 'person' left the table.

    It was honestly like a bot or like he could see my cards. More than that, it seemed like it was an Employee who was sent in to take down my winnings and then get the f*ck outta dodge. I've never seen anything like it before. This may sound really stupid, but it almost scares me off of Full Tilt enough to never go back there, even though I'm an above average poker player. Maybe I should have stuck to WPT.com
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 6:20 AM ET #2

    get used to the bad beats there more dummies play bad hands and get lucky,basically all sites are the same.

    only site where the bad beats occur less is partypoker,my opinion is the best site out there.

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    get used to the bad beats there more dummies play bad hands and get lucky,basically all sites are the same.

    only site where the bad beats occur less is partypoker,my opinion is the best site out there.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 6:26 AM ET #3

    hey ballpicker usually the worst hand wins at full tlit,play some suspect hands you will fair better.
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    hey ballpicker usually the worst hand wins at full tlit,play some suspect hands you will fair better.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 6:48 AM ET #4

    Well I was on a tight ass table. I play pretty tight but pick my spots to bluff, and eye out the people to bluff at. I could tell this joker was horrible as he threw all in with hopes of hitting an Ace on the River at one point. But once the pots grew bigger (and I knew I had this clown dominated) he hits his straight on the river (all in) and I was sitting with A, Q and a Q on the board for 4th street.....then an Ace on the river to give me 2 pair but to give this joker his straight. It was sick beats like that, all from the same guy, four freaking times. Shitty thing is, of course I get pissed off and end up throwing all in about 5 minutes later with two Aces.....and another dude hits a set of 9s to take me out....and I end up losing my stack.

    It was unreal. That last hand, that was kind of my fault because that 9 came on the turn and I should have folded, but the guy had previously bluffed some people....still my fault though. Anyway, I'm sure I'll get back on the wagon. There are some SERIOUS suckers on the Full Tilt scene. I'm no Phil Ivey or anything like that, but there are so many people on there that just have no clue. Then again, like you said that can be a bad thing sometimes because you get beat in hands that some moron really shouldn't be playing in to begin with!


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    Well I was on a tight ass table. I play pretty tight but pick my spots to bluff, and eye out the people to bluff at. I could tell this joker was horrible as he threw all in with hopes of hitting an Ace on the River at one point. But once the pots grew bigger (and I knew I had this clown dominated) he hits his straight on the river (all in) and I was sitting with A, Q and a Q on the board for 4th street.....then an Ace on the river to give me 2 pair but to give this joker his straight. It was sick beats like that, all from the same guy, four freaking times. Shitty thing is, of course I get pissed off and end up throwing all in about 5 minutes later with two Aces.....and another dude hits a set of 9s to take me out....and I end up losing my stack.

    It was unreal. That last hand, that was kind of my fault because that 9 came on the turn and I should have folded, but the guy had previously bluffed some people....still my fault though. Anyway, I'm sure I'll get back on the wagon. There are some SERIOUS suckers on the Full Tilt scene. I'm no Phil Ivey or anything like that, but there are so many people on there that just have no clue. Then again, like you said that can be a bad thing sometimes because you get beat in hands that some moron really shouldn't be playing in to begin with!


     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 5:42 PM ET #5

    There is always a dink and it is a kick in the nuts when they hit felt it and seen other players suffer too. Full tilt is a good site,great for tournements but have many stories could be here all day bringing up bad beats.

    like i said previous all sites are the same with bingo players. Once other sites like Partypoker-888-PKR start accepting states customers try them out,bad beats are less at these sites 

     

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    There is always a dink and it is a kick in the nuts when they hit felt it and seen other players suffer too. Full tilt is a good site,great for tournements but have many stories could be here all day bringing up bad beats.

    like i said previous all sites are the same with bingo players. Once other sites like Partypoker-888-PKR start accepting states customers try them out,bad beats are less at these sites 

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 5:44 PM ET #6

    warning be prepared for abusive attacks from full tilt promoters very surprised they have not responded yet

     

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 7:00 PM ET #7

    just played $5 sit n go at tilt my kk was cracked by a 3-8 offsuit those bonehead put me all in preflop,russians are becoming the wave of donks only average player myself but these idiots
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    just played $5 sit n go at tilt my kk was cracked by a 3-8 offsuit those bonehead put me all in preflop,russians are becoming the wave of donks only average player myself but these idiots
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 7:07 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Ball_Picker:



    It was honestly like a bot or like he could see my cards. More than that, it seemed like it was an Employee who was sent in to take down my winnings and then get the f*ck outta dodge. I've never seen anything like it before. This may sound really stupid, but it almost scares me off of Full Tilt enough to never go back there, even though I'm an above average poker player. Maybe I should have stuck to WPT.com

     

     

     

    JUST STOP

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    It was honestly like a bot or like he could see my cards. More than that, it seemed like it was an Employee who was sent in to take down my winnings and then get the f*ck outta dodge. I've never seen anything like it before. This may sound really stupid, but it almost scares me off of Full Tilt enough to never go back there, even though I'm an above average poker player. Maybe I should have stuck to WPT.com

     

     

     

    JUST STOP

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 7:11 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by gers:

     Once other sites like Partypoker-888-PKR start accepting states customers try them out,bad beats are less at these sites 

     

     

     

    Hilarious

     

    Its real simple guys. If youre not consistently winning at the microstakes you guys are playing than youre just not as good as you THINK you are, PERIOD.

     

    Every guy like you "rigged" guys who has sent me their hand histories all it is is misplayed hand after misplayed hand than they take a beat and blame their whole tourney and poker "career" on that beat. Weak excuses from weak players. Send me a hand history and I bet I'll find errors in at least 1 out of every 5 hands you play, if not 1 of 2.

     

    But its excuse making donks like you guys that keep the poker world profitable so thank you for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by gers:

     Once other sites like Partypoker-888-PKR start accepting states customers try them out,bad beats are less at these sites 

     

     

     

    Hilarious

     

    Its real simple guys. If youre not consistently winning at the microstakes you guys are playing than youre just not as good as you THINK you are, PERIOD.

     

    Every guy like you "rigged" guys who has sent me their hand histories all it is is misplayed hand after misplayed hand than they take a beat and blame their whole tourney and poker "career" on that beat. Weak excuses from weak players. Send me a hand history and I bet I'll find errors in at least 1 out of every 5 hands you play, if not 1 of 2.

     

    But its excuse making donks like you guys that keep the poker world profitable so thank you for that

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 7:11 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by gers:

    warning be prepared for abusive attacks from full tilt promoters very surprised they have not responded yet

     

     

    I know, since YOU cant win on fulltilt it must be rigged cuz youre just so fucking awesome at poker. What a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by gers:

    warning be prepared for abusive attacks from full tilt promoters very surprised they have not responded yet

     

     

    I know, since YOU cant win on fulltilt it must be rigged cuz youre just so fucking awesome at poker. What a joke

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 7:34 PM ET #11

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 8:28 PM ET #12

    not saying rigged payne just bad beats
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    not saying rigged payne just bad beats
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 8:40 PM ET #13

    ball picker give poker stars a try
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 8:51 PM ET #14

    As for my game chance i do okay i just need to be more aggressive,i am more of a tight player
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    As for my game chance i do okay i just need to be more aggressive,i am more of a tight player
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 9:12 PM ET #15

    Best site is partypoker and their sportsbook no complaints

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    Best site is partypoker and their sportsbook no complaints

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 9:45 PM ET #16

    If you keep getting all your money in when the odds are strongly in your favor (>= 80%) and the river consistently beats you, I would definitely be concerned about the programming.  But if you are letting him see cheap flops and turns by getting cute and greedy, then I would say it is probably your questionable play instead.

     

     

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    If you keep getting all your money in when the odds are strongly in your favor (>= 80%) and the river consistently beats you, I would definitely be concerned about the programming.  But if you are letting him see cheap flops and turns by getting cute and greedy, then I would say it is probably your questionable play instead.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 1:07 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Ball_Picker:

    I'm sitting there at just a 1/3 no limit table and I'm pretty big after about 1.5 hours. A new guy sits at the table I'm at and he is clearly a horrible player as I take just a few pots from him. Well, I'm a folding machine and play position A LOT! I will only play out of position if I have something pretty damn good. Anyway, next thing I know, this same person is in on every pot that I'm in on, and I'd be sitting with A, K or A, Q, QQ and stuff like that. So we get into some big pots and FOUR times this VERY SAME PERSON takes my money on the River! They were unbelievable bad beats and it was four times in a row. Now even more odd than that is after I was EXACTLY back to the money amount in which I started, this 'person' left the table.

    It was honestly like a bot or like he could see my cards. More than that, it seemed like it was an Employee who was sent in to take down my winnings and then get the f*ck outta dodge. I've never seen anything like it before. This may sound really stupid, but it almost scares me off of Full Tilt enough to never go back there, even though I'm an above average poker player. Maybe I should have stuck to WPT.com
    you said it yourself, you were at a tight ass table, then the donk came in playing loose ,and hit and ran ,beleive it or not happens a lot , maybe if he continued to sit down for a couple more hours, and yor bank is big enough to take beats you can get your money back, ther are many ups and downs in poker and especially online ,the swings online can be very violent especially if your not managing your money correctly which a lot of us are not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ball_Picker:

    I'm sitting there at just a 1/3 no limit table and I'm pretty big after about 1.5 hours. A new guy sits at the table I'm at and he is clearly a horrible player as I take just a few pots from him. Well, I'm a folding machine and play position A LOT! I will only play out of position if I have something pretty damn good. Anyway, next thing I know, this same person is in on every pot that I'm in on, and I'd be sitting with A, K or A, Q, QQ and stuff like that. So we get into some big pots and FOUR times this VERY SAME PERSON takes my money on the River! They were unbelievable bad beats and it was four times in a row. Now even more odd than that is after I was EXACTLY back to the money amount in which I started, this 'person' left the table.

    It was honestly like a bot or like he could see my cards. More than that, it seemed like it was an Employee who was sent in to take down my winnings and then get the f*ck outta dodge. I've never seen anything like it before. This may sound really stupid, but it almost scares me off of Full Tilt enough to never go back there, even though I'm an above average poker player. Maybe I should have stuck to WPT.com
    you said it yourself, you were at a tight ass table, then the donk came in playing loose ,and hit and ran ,beleive it or not happens a lot , maybe if he continued to sit down for a couple more hours, and yor bank is big enough to take beats you can get your money back, ther are many ups and downs in poker and especially online ,the swings online can be very violent especially if your not managing your money correctly which a lot of us are not
     
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    JUST STOP

    chance you keep it real but your pretty harsh about shit being rigged online, BELEIVE ME cheating definitly goes on several diffrent ways online, i'm not here crying over a bad beat ,even though i had plenty of them, its a proven fact .there is collusion, then there are scandals like at absolute, and ultimate bet , then there are those who never were caught, but i'll tell you what ,anybody who use to play at 5dimes old poker room, the one where you could win free plays ,that was merged w/several other books such as you wager, and heritage sports. anyway if you ever played in there cash games they for sure dealt out cooler hand to drive the rake up, ther is no doubt in my mind players would get big pairs, against big time draws all the time, set over set also happened frequently, i played in this room for years , i know youwager still has it , but heritage discontinued it, the 5dimes also did, but this was the sickest, anybody that played in those cash games can attest to this , those that still play at you wager will tell you, but i dont play ther no more,  anyway chance you talk a good game just curious were do you play?? online @ live , i'll admit in the past 6years online in cash games i'm way down ,however i have been succesful in MTT @SIT@GOS ,basically in cash games i get distracted easily and my discipline is not consistent, much better player live in cash games
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    JUST STOP

    chance you keep it real but your pretty harsh about shit being rigged online, BELEIVE ME cheating definitly goes on several diffrent ways online, i'm not here crying over a bad beat ,even though i had plenty of them, its a proven fact .there is collusion, then there are scandals like at absolute, and ultimate bet , then there are those who never were caught, but i'll tell you what ,anybody who use to play at 5dimes old poker room, the one where you could win free plays ,that was merged w/several other books such as you wager, and heritage sports. anyway if you ever played in there cash games they for sure dealt out cooler hand to drive the rake up, ther is no doubt in my mind players would get big pairs, against big time draws all the time, set over set also happened frequently, i played in this room for years , i know youwager still has it , but heritage discontinued it, the 5dimes also did, but this was the sickest, anybody that played in those cash games can attest to this , those that still play at you wager will tell you, but i dont play ther no more,  anyway chance you talk a good game just curious were do you play?? online @ live , i'll admit in the past 6years online in cash games i'm way down ,however i have been succesful in MTT @SIT@GOS ,basically in cash games i get distracted easily and my discipline is not consistent, much better player live in cash games
     
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    Great idea chance i should send you hand histories,this way you can catch mistakes i make during MTT,sit n gos, but still will not prevent some idiot goin all in with 3-8 offsuit and hitting.

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    Great idea chance i should send you hand histories,this way you can catch mistakes i make during MTT,sit n gos, but still will not prevent some idiot goin all in with 3-8 offsuit and hitting.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gers:

    warning be prepared for abusive attacks from full tilt promoters very surprised they have not responded yet

    and the promoter chancep was right behind you on that comment, good call. 

     

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    warning be prepared for abusive attacks from full tilt promoters very surprised they have not responded yet

    and the promoter chancep was right behind you on that comment, good call. 

     

     
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    We discuss bad beats Soblantant all of a sudden we are branded losers,idiots etc. I chat with alot of players they have the same opinion,but they must be losing players i guess,well Chance some of these are winning players who do well playing online poker.

    So relax let others share opinions whether they are against yours.

     

     

     

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    We discuss bad beats Soblantant all of a sudden we are branded losers,idiots etc. I chat with alot of players they have the same opinion,but they must be losing players i guess,well Chance some of these are winning players who do well playing online poker.

    So relax let others share opinions whether they are against yours.

     

     

     

     
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    K if all you guys think online is rigged then why dont you stop playing?? and go to a casino. i play online and theres bad beats but fuck theres bad beats live to like shit that happens online can happen in a  live game as well

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    K if all you guys think online is rigged then why dont you stop playing?? and go to a casino. i play online and theres bad beats but fuck theres bad beats live to like shit that happens online can happen in a  live game as well

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BURG2VEGAS:

    chance you keep it real but your pretty harsh about shit being rigged online, BELEIVE ME cheating definitly goes on several diffrent ways online, i'm not here crying over a bad beat ,even though i had plenty of them, its a proven fact .there is collusion, then there are scandals like at absolute, and ultimate bet , then there are those who never were caught, but i'll tell you what ,anybody who use to play at 5dimes old poker room, the one where you could win free plays ,that was merged w/several other books such as you wager, and heritage sports. anyway if you ever played in there cash games they for sure dealt out cooler hand to drive the rake up, ther is no doubt in my mind players would get big pairs, against big time draws all the time, set over set also happened frequently, i played in this room for years , i know youwager still has it , but heritage discontinued it, the 5dimes also did, but this was the sickest, anybody that played in those cash games can attest to this , those that still play at you wager will tell you, but i dont play ther no more,  anyway chance you talk a good game just curious were do you play?? online @ live , i'll admit in the past 6years online in cash games i'm way down ,however i have been succesful in MTT @SIT@GOS ,basically in cash games i get distracted easily and my discipline is not consistent, much better player live in cash games

     

    The reason I get so harsh is cuz 95% of what these guys say in their stories is bullshit and 100% of them are shitty players. Seriously, have you ever heard a professional poker player (anyone from Doyle to Daniel to ivey to ANYONE) say that they think online is rigged? So all these people who know poker better than anyone dont think its rigged yet Joe Covers does cuz he got sucked out of his $50 deposit, its just such horse shit and people just looking for reasons as to why they dont suck.

     

    The UB/Absolute scandal was complete horseshit. But that was guys seeing hole cards in the nosebleed stakes, not "the site rigging hands" like these morons claim. Also, not one person who has ever posted in this forum about it being rigged fell victim to that scandal in their little $5 games yet they see that piece on 60 minutes and say "DAMN! I knew I was good at poker, I got fucked thats how I lost" Once again, just complete fucking hogwash. Also, collusion happens live as well. I play 1-on-1s so thats no problem for me but you get what im saying.

     

    So then i have a few of these "rigged" clowns send me histories of their tournies and i look thru them and the guys are just misplaying hands all over the fucking place, then taking one semi bad beat and blaming their whole poker "career" on that beat. Just donks making excuses and trying to make themselves feel better about being shitty player

     

    Do i need to go on? Cuz I will!!!! lol

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    chance you keep it real but your pretty harsh about shit being rigged online, BELEIVE ME cheating definitly goes on several diffrent ways online, i'm not here crying over a bad beat ,even though i had plenty of them, its a proven fact .there is collusion, then there are scandals like at absolute, and ultimate bet , then there are those who never were caught, but i'll tell you what ,anybody who use to play at 5dimes old poker room, the one where you could win free plays ,that was merged w/several other books such as you wager, and heritage sports. anyway if you ever played in there cash games they for sure dealt out cooler hand to drive the rake up, ther is no doubt in my mind players would get big pairs, against big time draws all the time, set over set also happened frequently, i played in this room for years , i know youwager still has it , but heritage discontinued it, the 5dimes also did, but this was the sickest, anybody that played in those cash games can attest to this , those that still play at you wager will tell you, but i dont play ther no more,  anyway chance you talk a good game just curious were do you play?? online @ live , i'll admit in the past 6years online in cash games i'm way down ,however i have been succesful in MTT @SIT@GOS ,basically in cash games i get distracted easily and my discipline is not consistent, much better player live in cash games

     

    The reason I get so harsh is cuz 95% of what these guys say in their stories is bullshit and 100% of them are shitty players. Seriously, have you ever heard a professional poker player (anyone from Doyle to Daniel to ivey to ANYONE) say that they think online is rigged? So all these people who know poker better than anyone dont think its rigged yet Joe Covers does cuz he got sucked out of his $50 deposit, its just such horse shit and people just looking for reasons as to why they dont suck.

     

    The UB/Absolute scandal was complete horseshit. But that was guys seeing hole cards in the nosebleed stakes, not "the site rigging hands" like these morons claim. Also, not one person who has ever posted in this forum about it being rigged fell victim to that scandal in their little $5 games yet they see that piece on 60 minutes and say "DAMN! I knew I was good at poker, I got fucked thats how I lost" Once again, just complete fucking hogwash. Also, collusion happens live as well. I play 1-on-1s so thats no problem for me but you get what im saying.

     

    So then i have a few of these "rigged" clowns send me histories of their tournies and i look thru them and the guys are just misplaying hands all over the fucking place, then taking one semi bad beat and blaming their whole poker "career" on that beat. Just donks making excuses and trying to make themselves feel better about being shitty player

     

    Do i need to go on? Cuz I will!!!! lol

     
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    Chance 3rd place finish at $18 tourn at 888 today not bad for a donk
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    Chance 3rd place finish at $18 tourn at 888 today not bad for a donk

     

     

    Very well done sir

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    Chance 3rd place finish at $18 tourn at 888 today not bad for a donk

     

     

    Very well done sir

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