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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2010 - 12:21 AM ET #51

    God I hate the Jets... BUT its easy to point out the flaws of every team... I have gone through each NFL team pretty substantially and the Jets are in my Top 3 in the NFL. (assuming Revis Signs)  The Jets O-Line is arguably the best in the Game... your QB argument doesn't have that strong of a case when the Jets O-Line is that good.
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    God I hate the Jets... BUT its easy to point out the flaws of every team... I have gone through each NFL team pretty substantially and the Jets are in my Top 3 in the NFL. (assuming Revis Signs)  The Jets O-Line is arguably the best in the Game... your QB argument doesn't have that strong of a case when the Jets O-Line is that good.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2010 - 2:03 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

    To those that are upset because my argument is one-sided, that was intentional...to get people to see the flaws the Jets have. Its obvious many Jets homers have been upset by this thread.

    Look at the numbers I posted. They don't lie. People have been blinded by two playoff wins.

    and to compare their D to the 85 Bears or 00 Ravens is LAUGHABLE. Could they be great? Sure. They have a long way to go to get there.

    I don't see this team winning more than 9 games. Feel free to bump this thread if you'd like. Could I be wrong? Yup. I'm not drinking the kool aid.



    I look forward to this season more than ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

    To those that are upset because my argument is one-sided, that was intentional...to get people to see the flaws the Jets have. Its obvious many Jets homers have been upset by this thread.

    Look at the numbers I posted. They don't lie. People have been blinded by two playoff wins.

    and to compare their D to the 85 Bears or 00 Ravens is LAUGHABLE. Could they be great? Sure. They have a long way to go to get there.

    I don't see this team winning more than 9 games. Feel free to bump this thread if you'd like. Could I be wrong? Yup. I'm not drinking the kool aid.



    I look forward to this season more than ever.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2010 - 8:07 AM ET #53

    Love how "stat's" from LAST YEAR are used to determine how a team is going to do THIS YEAR.
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    Love how "stat's" from LAST YEAR are used to determine how a team is going to do THIS YEAR.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2010 - 10:14 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by CMJohnson1:

    They helped out Sanchez by giving him some weapons on the offensive end, but I cant see Revis having the same type of season he had last year.  All this contract bitching shows me that he just cares about the money.  Once he gets paid, he will ease back a bit.


    what Revis did last year, few if any have done. That is talent above and beyond most NFLers. Put him up there with the great great CB's.

    He is the key, to have a total shutdown CB, opens up so many things for you in defense.

    If he stays healthy, no reason this O-Line and D cannot do it again. Remember, they finished quite strong and surprised everyone. Had Manning on the ropes for a half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMJohnson1:

    They helped out Sanchez by giving him some weapons on the offensive end, but I cant see Revis having the same type of season he had last year.  All this contract bitching shows me that he just cares about the money.  Once he gets paid, he will ease back a bit.


    what Revis did last year, few if any have done. That is talent above and beyond most NFLers. Put him up there with the great great CB's.

    He is the key, to have a total shutdown CB, opens up so many things for you in defense.

    If he stays healthy, no reason this O-Line and D cannot do it again. Remember, they finished quite strong and surprised everyone. Had Manning on the ropes for a half.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2010 - 10:39 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

    2444 yards =  152 yards per game
    12 TDs =    0.75 TD’s per game
    20 INT’s =  1.25 INT’s per game

    Does  an average game of 152 yards per game less than a TD an more than 1 INT seem like a typical game you want from a super bowl winning quarterback?  You want to rely on this guy when he has to make a big play in a big game to get the W for his team? Not me thanks.

    Furthermore, when we dissect Sanchez’s games he did not win one game for them, but looking back, he sure did lose at least 5 games for them. The numbers don’t lie here. You are seriously expecting Mark Sanchez to win against a great coached defense in the playoffs? If you are, I have a bridge for sale you can buy. Granted Sanchez is bound to show at least marginal improvement, but he is not nearly ready for prime time. Which leads us to our final point…the schedule..

    Great Insight on the young overrated QB however your numbers are a little off. He did only play 15 games in the 16 game schedule

    2444/15 = 163 YDS/game

    12 TD's/15 = 0.8 TD's game

    20 INT/15 = 1.33 INT/game

    none the less still terrible numbers for any QB except Jamarcus Russell, he would kill for those stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigNiner:

    2444 yards =  152 yards per game
    12 TDs =    0.75 TD’s per game
    20 INT’s =  1.25 INT’s per game

    Does  an average game of 152 yards per game less than a TD an more than 1 INT seem like a typical game you want from a super bowl winning quarterback?  You want to rely on this guy when he has to make a big play in a big game to get the W for his team? Not me thanks.

    Furthermore, when we dissect Sanchez’s games he did not win one game for them, but looking back, he sure did lose at least 5 games for them. The numbers don’t lie here. You are seriously expecting Mark Sanchez to win against a great coached defense in the playoffs? If you are, I have a bridge for sale you can buy. Granted Sanchez is bound to show at least marginal improvement, but he is not nearly ready for prime time. Which leads us to our final point…the schedule..

    Great Insight on the young overrated QB however your numbers are a little off. He did only play 15 games in the 16 game schedule

    2444/15 = 163 YDS/game

    12 TD's/15 = 0.8 TD's game

    20 INT/15 = 1.33 INT/game

    none the less still terrible numbers for any QB except Jamarcus Russell, he would kill for those stats

     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2010 - 11:27 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharp__Action:

    Fucking biased idiot, most likely a Giants fan.

    I would refute your arguments, but most of them are ridiculous and extremely one-sided. 

    Side bet on who wins more games this season?

    LOL at they guy with a NYJ aviator calling another biased and extremely one-sided.  I don't necessarily agree with BigNiner but he has made some interesting points.  You on the other hand contributed nothing.

    Hell pot stop calling the kettle black!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharp__Action:

    Fucking biased idiot, most likely a Giants fan.

    I would refute your arguments, but most of them are ridiculous and extremely one-sided. 

    Side bet on who wins more games this season?

    LOL at they guy with a NYJ aviator calling another biased and extremely one-sided.  I don't necessarily agree with BigNiner but he has made some interesting points.  You on the other hand contributed nothing.

    Hell pot stop calling the kettle black!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2010 - 12:56 PM ET #57

    Jets. yes they are hyped up because they should be. they were an underdog team and then added probowlers to the team, makes sense they are hyped up. they added a good lockdown corner(cromartie) to go with the best db in the league. they actually brought over a superbowl mvp receiver (santonio) to go with the one receiver who is a huge disappointment in which they got halfway through the season (braylon edwards), a hall of fame runningback(LT). hall of fame DE/OLB (jason taylor)

    most over hyped team was the patriots when they came back from the superbowl loss. lets also look at teams that have gone the superbowl and see what else they have. DEFENSE. saints defense came through throughout the whole playoffs. the 2001 ravens didn't need an allstar qb. they were actually the only team that released their starting qb after a superbowl win. the giants defense and run game kept them into thesuperbowl before eli "ashley simpson" manning made hte stupidest decision in nfl history. 06 steelers . the only completed pass for a td was thrown by hines ward. the rest was rungame and defense. 09 steelers defense even got hte game winning fumble and the  td before half to give them the lead and stopped the most dominant playoff receiver ever minus one play. the 03 bucs led by hte defense of warren sapp. the number 1 defense with added talent is hyped up yes.. for a reason. if i give you a good team and add more talent and experience what do you think will happen. the jets are more run based team and they got a better rb. sanchez was a rookie qb  so don't jump to conclusion . now he has more comfort in pocket and more experience he wil be better. you will be wrong and they win a lot of games and yes they will make it into the playoffs regardless of the schedule
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    Jets. yes they are hyped up because they should be. they were an underdog team and then added probowlers to the team, makes sense they are hyped up. they added a good lockdown corner(cromartie) to go with the best db in the league. they actually brought over a superbowl mvp receiver (santonio) to go with the one receiver who is a huge disappointment in which they got halfway through the season (braylon edwards), a hall of fame runningback(LT). hall of fame DE/OLB (jason taylor)

    most over hyped team was the patriots when they came back from the superbowl loss. lets also look at teams that have gone the superbowl and see what else they have. DEFENSE. saints defense came through throughout the whole playoffs. the 2001 ravens didn't need an allstar qb. they were actually the only team that released their starting qb after a superbowl win. the giants defense and run game kept them into thesuperbowl before eli "ashley simpson" manning made hte stupidest decision in nfl history. 06 steelers . the only completed pass for a td was thrown by hines ward. the rest was rungame and defense. 09 steelers defense even got hte game winning fumble and the  td before half to give them the lead and stopped the most dominant playoff receiver ever minus one play. the 03 bucs led by hte defense of warren sapp. the number 1 defense with added talent is hyped up yes.. for a reason. if i give you a good team and add more talent and experience what do you think will happen. the jets are more run based team and they got a better rb. sanchez was a rookie qb  so don't jump to conclusion . now he has more comfort in pocket and more experience he wil be better. you will be wrong and they win a lot of games and yes they will make it into the playoffs regardless of the schedule
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2010 - 2:11 PM ET #58

    I agree they are overhyped ! I also agree Sanchez will not win  them a super bowl ! However they have, both a great defense and offensive line which should get them to the playoffs in the weak AFC ! Regardless is their anything better right now then a Rex Ryan post game interveiw ???
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    I agree they are overhyped ! I also agree Sanchez will not win  them a super bowl ! However they have, both a great defense and offensive line which should get them to the playoffs in the weak AFC ! Regardless is their anything better right now then a Rex Ryan post game interveiw ???
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2010 - 3:45 PM ET #59

    Fading the Jets this year has now become the public play. 

    With everyone and his dog now yapping about how they are overhyped and won't win jack, I am starting to really like their chances now!!!

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    Fading the Jets this year has now become the public play. 

    With everyone and his dog now yapping about how they are overhyped and won't win jack, I am starting to really like their chances now!!!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2010 - 3:47 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryancoke:

    Great Insight on the young overrated QB however your numbers are a little off. He did only play 15 games in the 16 game schedule

    2444/15 = 163 YDS/game

    12 TD's/15 = 0.8 TD's game

    20 INT/15 = 1.33 INT/game

    none the less still terrible numbers for any QB except Jamarcus Russell, he would kill for those stats

    2444/15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryancoke:

    Great Insight on the young overrated QB however your numbers are a little off. He did only play 15 games in the 16 game schedule

    2444/15 = 163 YDS/game

    12 TD's/15 = 0.8 TD's game

    20 INT/15 = 1.33 INT/game

    none the less still terrible numbers for any QB except Jamarcus Russell, he would kill for those stats

    2444/15

     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2010 - 5:29 PM ET #61

    Revis had an insane season last year I will agree wholeheartedly with that, but I just look at his actions during this preseason and training camp and figure he can't keep up that incredible pace.  The same types of things were said about DeAngelo Hall, Roy Williams, and various other defensive backs this decade.  Once they get paid, they usually fall off a bit.
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    Revis had an insane season last year I will agree wholeheartedly with that, but I just look at his actions during this preseason and training camp and figure he can't keep up that incredible pace.  The same types of things were said about DeAngelo Hall, Roy Williams, and various other defensive backs this decade.  Once they get paid, they usually fall off a bit.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2010 - 11:38 AM ET #62

    Don't forget that win #8 last year was against the Colts when Indy laid down in the second half.

    However, the Jets picked up some good, veteran talent. It's not exactly the same team out there. Plus, they run well and stop the run. That's more than half the battle. They have guys that get turnovers.

    I would love to see the hyped Jets fall flat on their Jetsie faces. The high expectations are there for them to fail to achieve, which is what the Jets always do. But will not be surprised if they do very well.
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    Don't forget that win #8 last year was against the Colts when Indy laid down in the second half.

    However, the Jets picked up some good, veteran talent. It's not exactly the same team out there. Plus, they run well and stop the run. That's more than half the battle. They have guys that get turnovers.

    I would love to see the hyped Jets fall flat on their Jetsie faces. The high expectations are there for them to fail to achieve, which is what the Jets always do. But will not be surprised if they do very well.
     
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    i guess i should bring my revis comments over here with all the jets fans.

    please turn off espn.  revis is not the best corner in the league.    he may be the best one day, but he's not now, despite what you may see on various 10 second highlights on sportscenter.

    also, revis will be playing this year and he'll have another great season.  this holdout is just posturing like every other holdout every preseason. 

    and i agree with one of the other posters.  the jets are shaping up to be overvalued quite often this season, although i do think they'll be either good or very good this season.  but remember, being good and being a good bet are not necessarily the same thing in the nfl any given week.

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    i guess i should bring my revis comments over here with all the jets fans.

    please turn off espn.  revis is not the best corner in the league.    he may be the best one day, but he's not now, despite what you may see on various 10 second highlights on sportscenter.

    also, revis will be playing this year and he'll have another great season.  this holdout is just posturing like every other holdout every preseason. 

    and i agree with one of the other posters.  the jets are shaping up to be overvalued quite often this season, although i do think they'll be either good or very good this season.  but remember, being good and being a good bet are not necessarily the same thing in the nfl any given week.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2010 - 12:11 PM ET #64

    Fans do not belong here on a sports betting forum, I dont need to hear opinions on games from biased one sided blind douchebags who fly there colors and wear there hearts on their sleeves.

     

    this in Bobby Smiths own words

    Straight up man has no business in ATS mans world but likes to rear his ugly head from time to time.

    Bobby smith wrote one of the best football books I ever ready and is head of the the sports reporter newsletter.

     

     

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    Fans do not belong here on a sports betting forum, I dont need to hear opinions on games from biased one sided blind douchebags who fly there colors and wear there hearts on their sleeves.

     

    this in Bobby Smiths own words

    Straight up man has no business in ATS mans world but likes to rear his ugly head from time to time.

    Bobby smith wrote one of the best football books I ever ready and is head of the the sports reporter newsletter.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2010 - 10:52 PM ET #65

    If anyone above thinks that picking up LT is an improvement over Thomas Jones is completely insane.   Losing Jones and Faneca could prove to be huge.   We will see how Greene holds up for the whole year as an every down back because I wouldn't count on LT for anything.

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    If anyone above thinks that picking up LT is an improvement over Thomas Jones is completely insane.   Losing Jones and Faneca could prove to be huge.   We will see how Greene holds up for the whole year as an every down back because I wouldn't count on LT for anything.

     
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    Mexican QB all we can trust!  Amen& Great Coach who can talk....what's else do we need!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i guess i should bring my revis comments over here with all the jets fans.

    please turn off espn.  revis is not the best corner in the league.    he may be the best one day, but he's not now, despite what you may see on various 10 second highlights on sportscenter.

    also, revis will be playing this year and he'll have another great season.  this holdout is just posturing like every other holdout every preseason. 

    and i agree with one of the other posters.  the jets are shaping up to be overvalued quite often this season, although i do think they'll be either good or very good this season.  but remember, being good and being a good bet are not necessarily the same thing in the nfl any given week.



    he is BY FAR the best corner in the NFL hands down... has nothing to do with ESPN... He shut down EVERY #1 receiver EVERY week by himself...



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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i guess i should bring my revis comments over here with all the jets fans.

    please turn off espn.  revis is not the best corner in the league.    he may be the best one day, but he's not now, despite what you may see on various 10 second highlights on sportscenter.

    also, revis will be playing this year and he'll have another great season.  this holdout is just posturing like every other holdout every preseason. 

    and i agree with one of the other posters.  the jets are shaping up to be overvalued quite often this season, although i do think they'll be either good or very good this season.  but remember, being good and being a good bet are not necessarily the same thing in the nfl any given week.



    he is BY FAR the best corner in the NFL hands down... has nothing to do with ESPN... He shut down EVERY #1 receiver EVERY week by himself...



     
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    Excellent write-up
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    Excellent write-up
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2010 - 5:13 PM ET #69

    When compared with league the average, the Jets defense was 30% better than the league average in total yards given up.

    That ranks no.1 of all defenses since 2000 including the Ravens.

    Average gain per pass the Jets defense ranked no.2 of all defenses since 2000, behind only 2008 Pitt, the eventual SB Champs.

    There's just no denying the Jets have a great defense by any measure you want to make.

    Footballoutsiders who track every play of every game ranks the Jets defense no.1 last year and the 4th best defense  since 1993, the first year of their metrics.

    They said Revis lead the league in adjusted yards per catch and success rate.

    They said Revis had a season for the ages last season and even if he declines by 10% this season he would still be the best corner in football.

    They also pointed out the Jets were just 14th in sack rate but 3rd in hurries and history tells them that teams like this dramatically improve their sack rate the next season

    The facts paint a pretty impressive picture of the Jets defense.

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    When compared with league the average, the Jets defense was 30% better than the league average in total yards given up.

    That ranks no.1 of all defenses since 2000 including the Ravens.

    Average gain per pass the Jets defense ranked no.2 of all defenses since 2000, behind only 2008 Pitt, the eventual SB Champs.

    There's just no denying the Jets have a great defense by any measure you want to make.

    Footballoutsiders who track every play of every game ranks the Jets defense no.1 last year and the 4th best defense  since 1993, the first year of their metrics.

    They said Revis lead the league in adjusted yards per catch and success rate.

    They said Revis had a season for the ages last season and even if he declines by 10% this season he would still be the best corner in football.

    They also pointed out the Jets were just 14th in sack rate but 3rd in hurries and history tells them that teams like this dramatically improve their sack rate the next season

    The facts paint a pretty impressive picture of the Jets defense.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2010 - 6:30 PM ET #70

    Big Niner, always nice to see someone who can actually write. You make some good points. Myself, I do believe Sanchez will be better. He has the potential, and let's face it, being a rookie QB in the NFL may be the most difficult position/task in all of sports, and in NY no less.

    While I won't put the Jets "D" in the same class as the Bears and Ravens from years past, they are good, make no mistake. That will keep them in games. Being swept last year by the Dolphins (my team) was a bit of an anomaly. The Fins' have had more than their share of struggles against the Jets historically.

    So many variables come into play every season that it's hard for me to put much stock into a new year based on the previous year. Let's not forget the NFC South, where finishing last once meant winning the division the next year. Free agents, rookies, injuries, make team chemistry a bit unpredictable. That's why my bets are  more conservative early on.

    Yes, perhaps there is a little too much hype going into the season, especially with a still very dangerous NE team sitting back, enjoying the view from the underdog chair. That alone should be enough to concern even the most ardent Jets fan.

    "I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant."
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    Big Niner, always nice to see someone who can actually write. You make some good points. Myself, I do believe Sanchez will be better. He has the potential, and let's face it, being a rookie QB in the NFL may be the most difficult position/task in all of sports, and in NY no less.

    While I won't put the Jets "D" in the same class as the Bears and Ravens from years past, they are good, make no mistake. That will keep them in games. Being swept last year by the Dolphins (my team) was a bit of an anomaly. The Fins' have had more than their share of struggles against the Jets historically.

    So many variables come into play every season that it's hard for me to put much stock into a new year based on the previous year. Let's not forget the NFC South, where finishing last once meant winning the division the next year. Free agents, rookies, injuries, make team chemistry a bit unpredictable. That's why my bets are  more conservative early on.

    Yes, perhaps there is a little too much hype going into the season, especially with a still very dangerous NE team sitting back, enjoying the view from the underdog chair. That alone should be enough to concern even the most ardent Jets fan.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2010 - 6:50 PM ET #71

    I think the Ravens are the best team in the AFC , but i do not beleive the Jets will go 8-8... i'm guessing 10-6 .. 

    Rex Ryan is one of the most competitive coaches this leauge has, and he will get Mark Suck-ass Sanchez to perform better.
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    I think the Ravens are the best team in the AFC , but i do not beleive the Jets will go 8-8... i'm guessing 10-6 .. 

    Rex Ryan is one of the most competitive coaches this leauge has, and he will get Mark Suck-ass Sanchez to perform better.
     
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    As hard as it is for Jet fans to admit, the veracity OP's points are undeniable.
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2010 - 10:19 PM ET #73

    It boils down to one factor with this jets team for 2010. If they score 17 points in a game how is anybody going to beat them. It doesnt have to be pretty and with Sanchez it wont be. I actually think sanchez is one of the most over hyped players maybe of all time. They were the #1 Defense in the league last year and played 10 quarters of dominating D in the playoffs last year. They added cromartie, drafted a great looking corner in kyle wilson, brought in a pass rushing specialist in Jason taylor and oh ya revis is coming back this week. They go 11-5 this reg season and are the toughest out in the playoffs come january.   
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    It boils down to one factor with this jets team for 2010. If they score 17 points in a game how is anybody going to beat them. It doesnt have to be pretty and with Sanchez it wont be. I actually think sanchez is one of the most over hyped players maybe of all time. They were the #1 Defense in the league last year and played 10 quarters of dominating D in the playoffs last year. They added cromartie, drafted a great looking corner in kyle wilson, brought in a pass rushing specialist in Jason taylor and oh ya revis is coming back this week. They go 11-5 this reg season and are the toughest out in the playoffs come january.   
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2010 - 12:59 AM ET #74

    Somebody give Big9er a micrphone, very well put my friend.

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    Somebody give Big9er a micrphone, very well put my friend.

     
     
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    I completely agree this jets team is due for a correction and over performed in 09'. The defense played out of their respective minds, and the offensive line was one of the best in the NFL. Even though the o-line was awesome I'd like everyone to look up jamarcus russells rookie stats and compare them to Sanchez's. I'd post them myself but I'm currently posting from my phone. You will find russell almost had better numbers across the board! And sanchez was in a much better situation (running backs, offensive line, wr) than russell had. Losing thomas jones and leon washington and hanging on the carries on greene and LTs corpse isn't exactly an upgrade in my opinion.

    Most glaring fact to me is the defense with or without revis played completely out of their minds last year and will regress this year, can the offense compensate for the d giving up more points this year? I high doubt it, will be making a wager on jets under hope everyone keeps betting the over and revis signs and maybe push this bitch to 10 wins by opening day
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    I completely agree this jets team is due for a correction and over performed in 09'. The defense played out of their respective minds, and the offensive line was one of the best in the NFL. Even though the o-line was awesome I'd like everyone to look up jamarcus russells rookie stats and compare them to Sanchez's. I'd post them myself but I'm currently posting from my phone. You will find russell almost had better numbers across the board! And sanchez was in a much better situation (running backs, offensive line, wr) than russell had. Losing thomas jones and leon washington and hanging on the carries on greene and LTs corpse isn't exactly an upgrade in my opinion.

    Most glaring fact to me is the defense with or without revis played completely out of their minds last year and will regress this year, can the offense compensate for the d giving up more points this year? I high doubt it, will be making a wager on jets under hope everyone keeps betting the over and revis signs and maybe push this bitch to 10 wins by opening day
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