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welp Pokin BMA has found shelter here.... my condolences 








 
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Hamas is not a partner for peace.


Hamas remains committed to Israel’s destruction and to terrorism.


They have a charter.


 That charter not only calls for the obliteration of Israel,



 but says ‘kill the person wherever you find them’.



 Hamas’ leader condemned the killing of Osama bin Laden and praised him as a holy warrior.

 
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my point is...there's only one planet to sustain our lives...there's enough space for everyone.


,,,,It's done....All things must pass,,,
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PokinSmot:

why are people fighting over land when there's plenty of space in Mongolia?






 the Land of Israel,


This is the land of our forefathers,


 to which Abraham brought the idea of one God,

 where David set out to confront Goliath,

 and where Isaiah saw a vision of eternal peace.


 No distortion of history can deny the four thousand year old bond, between the Jewish people and the Jewish land.


 
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It is their homeland...Centuries before you and I......It is the most democratic nation in the region. We should condone that as Americans.....
 
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Yossi Peled, 

Yossi was born in Belgium.



 His parents hid him with a Christian family during the Holocaust, World War II.



His father and many other members of his family were murdered at Auschwitz.

His mother survived the Holocaust, returned to reclaim Yossi, and brought him to Israel.



 He became one of Israel's bravest and greatest generals.



 And today, he serves as a minister in my cabinet.

Yossi's life is the story of the Jewish people –


the story of a powerless and stateless people who became a strong and proud nation, able to defend itself.
 
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In 1983, Iran's proxy Hezbollah


 blew up the Marine barracks in Lebanon, killing 240 US Marines



 In the last decade, it's been responsible for murdering and maiming American soldiers in Afghanistan and in Iraq.
 
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copies of an exchange of letters between the World Jewish Congress and the United States War Department.

Here are the letters:

The year was 1944. The World Jewish Congress implored the American government to bomb Auschwitz. The reply came five days later. I want to read it to you.

"Such an operation could be executed only by diverting considerable air support essential to the success of our forces elsewhere…

and in any case, it would be of such doubtful efficacy that it would not warrant the use of our resources…"

And, my friends, here’s the most remarkable sentence of all, and I quote:

"Such an effort might provoke even more vindictive action by the Germans."

Think about that – "even more vindictive action" -- than the Holocaust.



2012 is not 1944. The American government today is different.
 
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The Jewish people 

 have a state of our own.

 And the purpose of the Jewish state is to defend Jewish lives and to secure the Jewish future.

Never again will we not be masters of the fate of our very survival.


 Never again.
 
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Israel


 the forward position of freedom in the Middle East.



The only place in the Middle East where minorities enjoy full civil rights;



 the only place in the Middle East where Arabs enjoy full civil rights;



the only place in the Middle East where Christians are free to practice their faith;



 the only place in the Middle East where real judges protect the rule of law.
 
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Shouldn't the blame be on the Romans and not the Arabs for the downfall of Jewish people?

 
 
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stand up for the one and only Jewish state.





 
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The founding of Israel did not stop the attacks on the person


 It merely gave the person the power to defend themselves against those attacks.
 
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Shlomit Vilmosh

her son, Haim

During a battle in 1969, Haim was killed by a burst of gunfire.


Haim was born shortly after his mother and father had been freed from the death camps of Europe


If Haim had been born two years before, this daring young officer would have been tossed into the ovens like a million other Jewish children.



Haim's mother Shlomit t though she was in great anguish, she was proud.

At least, she said, my son fell wearing the uniform of a Jewish soldier defending the Jewish state.


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Time and again the Israeli army was forced to repel attacks of much larger enemies determined to destroy us.

When Egypt and Jordan recognized that we could not be defeated in battle, they embraced the path of peace.







 
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Yet there are those who continue the assault against the Jewish state and who openly call for our destruction.

They seek to achieve this goal through terrorism, missile attacks and most recently by developing atomic weapons.

The ingathering of the Jewish people to Israel has not deterred these fanatics.

In fact, it has only whetted their appetite.

Iran's rulers say "Israel is a one bomb country."


The head of Hezbollah says: "If all the person gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide."

 
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Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Winston Churchill helped save the world. But they were too late to save six million of my own people.

The future of the Jewish state can never depend on the goodwill of even the greatest of men.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SmokenY0:

Quote Originally Posted by PokinSmot:

the person who pedals those words is as guilty as the survivor that spoke them.

Good thing you're not a judge. Who are YOU to dismiss what a survivor says?! You just confirmed how aloof you are in this matter.

one does not distribute words and statements that are false. You do not pass on a  statement when you know by historical fact that statement to be erroneous.

pokin is disseminating propaganda.

it is derogatory information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view:

shame on you for doing this pokin, it is sickening

Bma...as one human to another, you're guilty of the same crime, disseminating propaganda..lol.  Derogatory information it might be, because truth hurts sometimes, but you're no different with your own biased and misleading information. Who's version of history are you defending anyway, the same one where they tell us Columbus discovered America? Or is the one that Edison invented the light bulb?

it is disrespectful and hurtful to all those that died in the holocaust and to their families, to dare to compare that event to any other event in history is disgusting.

You're disrespecting a living holocaust survivor....you have a holocaust survivor speaking HIS views and I'm the one making false statements and insulting the Jewish people? LoL

you continue to lose credibility

surely you jest...until you admit you're a SAF you have NO credibility. 

this is the final insult to the Jewish people.

are you also speaking on behalf of the Jewish people who's against Zionism?

Your views are not worthy of consideration, let alone debate. Thanks to the ballot box people with your doctrine will always be cast aside. You operate outside of democracy.
 

If you want my personal opinion...I think all the people of faith are being bamboozled. After all, the major religions all believe in the same God!, right?  They all know how to coexist with each other, as human beings, it's been done before.  So why the conflict? I think it may be because of small group of rich, powerful, greedy hitlerr wanna-bee's, who want to start a new world order.  

Divide and conquer all the believers...it seems as though you agree with the killings of innocent civilians and war crimes being committed by the ruling elite. All for the sake of land? Do you know how stupid that sounds? You disrespected all the men and women who sacrificed their lives fighting for this thing called freedom.

May your soul be saved from the evilness you spew, your heart is black and you're a disease in the forums...stay away from the righteous members here, for we do not want a known SAF infecting us with your method of destruction.  



whatever y0

















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Quote Originally Posted by SmokenY0:

Quote Originally Posted by PokinSmot:



If you want my personal opinion...I think all the people of faith are being bamboozled. After all, the major religions all believe in the same God!, right?  They all know how to coexist with each other, as human beings, it's been done before.  So why the conflict? I think it may be because of small group of rich, powerful, greedy hitlerr wanna-bee's, who want to start a new world order.  


GO......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcGNqrAtsgg&feature=related !!!!!


SnJ




 
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Obama

I’ve seen it firsthand


. When I touched my hand against the Western Wall and placed my prayer between its ancient stones,


I thought of all the centuries that the children of Israel had longed to return to their ancient homeland.


When I went to Sderot and saw the daily struggle to survive in the eyes of an eight-year-old boy who lost his leg to a Hamas rocket,



and when I walked among the Hall of Names at Yad Vashem, I was reminded of the existential fear of Israelis




 
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Obama





“Israel’s existence must not be a subject for debate,” and “efforts to chip away at Israel’s legitimacy will only be met by the unshakeable opposition of the United States.”
 
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Obama



"Fatah and Hamas poses an enormous obstacle to peace. No country can be expected to negotiate with a terrorist organization sworn to its destruction. And we will continue to demand that Hamas accept the basic responsibilities of peace, including recognizing Israel’s right to exist and rejecting violence and adhering to all existing agreements."
 
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Obama



"As for security, every state has the right to self-defense, and Israel must be able to defend itself –- by itself -– against any threat."
 
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we now know who's responsible for all the peace, love, unity, and respect...in the US  

Guilty Plea: Israeli Nationals



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Hilary Clinton

Americans honor Israel as a homeland for a people too long oppressed and a democracy that has had to defend itself at every turn, a dream nurtured for generations and made real by men and women who refused to bow to the toughest of odds.

 In Israel's story, we see our own.

 We see, in fact, the story of all people who struggle for freedom and the right to chart their own destinies.

That's why it took President Harry Truman only 11 minutes to recognize the new nation of Israel
 -and ever since, our two countries have stood in solidarity.

 So guaranteeing Israel's security is more than a policy position for me; it is a personal commitment that will never waver.
 
 
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Hilary Clinton


I have also seen the struggles and the sorrows.

 I have met with the victims of terrorism,

 in their hospital rooms I've held their hands,

 I've listened to the doctors describe how much shrapnel was left in a leg, an arm, or a head.

I sat there and listened to the heart-rending words that Prime Minister Rabin's granddaughter Noa spoke at her grandfather's funeral.

I went to a bombed-out pizzeria in Jerusalem.

 I've seen the looks on the faces of Israeli families who knew a rocket could fall at any moment.
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