To all gun owner advocates

Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:

Oh so I guess you are in favor of amending the Bill of Rights.

Americans have the right to bear arms.  Not the right, after a bunch of nonsense.  The right to bear arms means just that.

Our forefathers were far wiser than any of you trying to "tweak" our bill of rights.

Quote Originally Posted by Stiln:

First of all did you even read the article?

Secondly I once again never said I am for BANNING guns. I said I was for making the process DIFFICULT. Do you understand the difference?

I have said that 3 times now.

The purchase of a firearm should be the most difficult purchase in America. The background check should be extensive, intrusive, and exhaustive­. And once approved, you should be required to demonstrat­e your proficienc­y before taking possession­. 

Also please provide page numbers and line numbers as to where it refutes my comments along with statistical evidence. Post the links to the data sources as well.

If you really wanted to do the research on this topic you very well could and look up each of the states.gov websites and look at the the gun crime rates in states that only require a 4473 form and compare them to the states I mentioned earlier in the thread and then proportionately add up the percentages.

Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

Sure are forefathers were wise.. But at the time the "arms" they were talking about was a freaking MUSKET... Shoot one shot take 5 minutes to reload.. Walk in a Giant Eagle with a musket and see how many people you take out.. Our forefathers being wise man makes me beleve if they were now today to write that bill  to own guns it would be quite different in terms of what type of arms the ordinary non military people could own... I dont think they envisioned a gun that could shoot 30 rounds in 5 seconds..

Quote Originally Posted by rooster010:

they also didnt envision the monstrosity our government has turned into

Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

Sure are forefathers were wise.. But at the time the "arms" they were talking about was a freaking MUSKET... Shoot one shot take 5 minutes to reload.. Walk in a Giant Eagle with a musket and see how many people you take out.. Our forefathers being wise man makes me beleve if they were now today to write that bill  to own guns it would be quite different in terms of what type of arms the ordinary non military people could own... I dont think they envisioned a gun that could shoot 30 rounds in 5 seconds..

Quote Originally Posted by kujayhwk:

There is no fucking need on God's green Earth to be able to shoot 30 bullets without reloading.

Quote Originally Posted by 5_for_Fighting:

Seeing as the bad guys don't play by the rules, wouldn't it be nice if the police had the ability to have a 15 round mag, and another 1 or 2 available on their Sam Browne ?

When I was first getting into law enforcement we had dump pouches, 6 bullets per pouch
Then it evolved to speed-loaders, but still 2 on the belt.

Quickly it evolved to auto weapons and mags....

These aren't designed for Joe Public, but, for the brave men and women that keep you and me safe