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#201
so are you rich as Bator or Vanzack yet ?
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***Kobe "The Fraud" Bryant appreciation
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#203
Hustle your hatred for a certain individual seems well documented in covers. Why this thread takes so much space in the forum indicates to me & others your great pleasure in pursuing this bashing. Why do you continue? Are you one of the boyfriends of the person who tried to get in his pockets? Did Bryant drop too many a winning baskets against you through the years while you were chanting BEAT LA? You claim this thread is for betting purposes, but I have trouble finding you posting many winners.
Bryant is just a basketball star trying to be the best he can and doing a pretty good job of it. Do you not have eyes, Kobe athleticism alone is quite superior in a game of astounding atheletes.
Ask yourself this question.
What professional basketball team would not like to have Kobe Bryant on their rooster? I know you would not
but then again you do not own a NBA basketball team.
but then again you do not own a NBA basketball team.The Lakers have a poor ATS record, as well as many other teams. So what is their problem, by the way?
The Celtics have a good ATS record, are they a good team? do you bet on them?what makes them so great, the ghost of Red A.
The reason it is hard for some people to bet against the Lakers is that everyone knows Kobe is on the team. What many fail to remember is the rest of the team stinks. Phil Jackson is in the twilight of his career and appears like he doesnt want to deal with their short comings or cross paths with Kupchek (but he did finally have the balls to not start Parker tonight). Do you think he would have stood watching his old teams not blocking out on defense and not moving on offense. Do you think he would have stood for certain players not giving him any respect in the old days like what has recently occurred. To say that Kobe is the reason this team is not good is assinine.
I do not mind you keep chanting Beat LAbut I wish you could forgive Kobe for what he has done to you in the past
but I wish you could forgive Kobe for what he has done to you in the past0
Posted:
#204
addict,must be smokin that crack pipe again,byrant is the david blaine of basketball,his so called greatness is an illusion,just like the idea he'll win another championship without shaq is,you forget to mention addict that kobe went 7 for 26 the other night,oh i guess it slipped your mind once you came out of your crack fiend haze huh,please no one that is a knowledgeable basketball fan takes kobe scoring or other tactic seriously,only you misguided morons who are his fans do 
thats his fans,and me i
andat you
thats his fans,and me iandat you0
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#206
Quote Originally Posted by Addict101:
Hustle your hatred for a certain individual seems well documented in covers. Why this thread takes so much space in the forum indicates to me & others your great pleasure in pursuing this bashing. Why do you continue? Are you one of the boyfriends of the person who tried to get in his pockets? Did Bryant drop too many a winning baskets against you through the years while you were chanting BEAT LA? You claim this thread is for betting purposes, but I have trouble finding you posting many winners.
Bryant is just a basketball star trying to be the best he can and doing a pretty good job of it. Do you not have eyes, Kobe athleticism alone is quite superior in a game of astounding atheletes.
Ask yourself this question.
What professional basketball team would not like to have Kobe Bryant on their rooster? I know you would notbut then again you do not own a NBA basketball team.
but then again you do not own a NBA basketball team.The Lakers have a poor ATS record, as well as many other teams. So what is their problem, by the way?
The Celtics have a good ATS record, are they a good team? do you bet on them?what makes them so great, the ghost of Red A.
The reason it is hard for some people to bet against the Lakers is that everyone knows Kobe is on the team. What many fail to remember is the rest of the team stinks. Phil Jackson is in the twilight of his career and appears like he doesnt want to deal with their short comings or cross paths with Kupchek (but he did finally have the balls to not start Parker tonight). Do you think he would have stood watching his old teams not blocking out on defense and not moving on offense. Do you think he would have stood for certain players not giving him any respect in the old days like what has recently occurred. To say that Kobe is the reason this team is not good is assinine.
I do not mind you keep chanting Beat LAbut I wish you could forgive Kobe for what he has done to you in the past
but I wish you could forgive Kobe for what he has done to you in the pastGreat Stuff Addict101 
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Posted:
#207
Quote Originally Posted by vangtimberius:
addict,must be smokin that crack pipe again,byrant is the david blaine of basketball,his so called greatness is an illusion,just like the idea he'll win another championship without shaq is,you forget to mention addict that kobe went 7 for 26 the other night,oh i guess it slipped your mind once you came out of your crack fiend haze huh,please no one that is a knowledgeable basketball fan takes kobe scoring or other tactic seriously,only you misguided morons who are his fans do thats his fans,and me iandat you
thats his fans,and me iandat youAre you Hustle's Kid brother or some shit ?
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Posted:
#208
Quote Originally Posted by Addict101:
Hustle your hatred for a certain individual seems well documented in covers. Why this thread takes so much space in the forum indicates to me & others your great pleasure in pursuing this bashing. Why do you continue? Are you one of the boyfriends of the person who tried to get in his pockets? Did Bryant drop too many a winning baskets against you through the years while you were chanting BEAT LA? You claim this thread is for betting purposes, but I have trouble finding you posting many winners.
Bryant is just a basketball star trying to be the best he can and doing a pretty good job of it. Do you not have eyes, Kobe athleticism alone is quite superior in a game of astounding atheletes.
Ask yourself this question.
What professional basketball team would not like to have Kobe Bryant on their rooster? I know you would notbut then again you do not own a NBA basketball team.
but then again you do not own a NBA basketball team.The Lakers have a poor ATS record, as well as many other teams. So what is their problem, by the way?
The Celtics have a good ATS record, are they a good team? do you bet on them?what makes them so great, the ghost of Red A.
The reason it is hard for some people to bet against the Lakers is that everyone knows Kobe is on the team. What many fail to remember is the rest of the team stinks. Phil Jackson is in the twilight of his career and appears like he doesnt want to deal with their short comings or cross paths with Kupchek (but he did finally have the balls to not start Parker tonight). Do you think he would have stood watching his old teams not blocking out on defense and not moving on offense. Do you think he would have stood for certain players not giving him any respect in the old days like what has recently occurred. To say that Kobe is the reason this team is not good is assinine.
I do not mind you keep chanting Beat LAbut I wish you could forgive Kobe for what he has done to you in the past
but I wish you could forgive Kobe for what he has done to you in the pastLOL... This is about a useless as anything the typical marks like westcoasttrojan say. The STATS dont lie. Seems like you're mad you were one of the people that were hit in the pockets by the FADE train.
LOL @ crossing paths with Kupchak when Kupchak and Jackson have both been trying to TRADE Bryant for years. The only reason the plan was nixed was because of their senile boss Jerry Buss.
Sorry it happened to you(falling trap to the FADE train) but its not too late. You have 1 more game to FADE the Lakers before the regular season is over.
And sorry to break it to you, but other than Utah, I dont think any team in the league is hotter than the Lakers. Maybe IndebtCrimes can post the stats to back it up (although like most around here, they dont come around after being proven wrong time after time)
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#210
Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:
Lamar was the reason for last nights victory. Up 10 with 4 minutes left, he received a pass from Walton for a dunk, putting the Lakers up 12. It was over after that big bucket from Odom.
Kid has lost so much money on the FADE train he doesnt even know what to say.
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Kobe Bryant. 
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#212
Quote Originally Posted by hustle_man:
Kid has lost so much money on the FADE train he doesnt even know what to say.
Kid has lost so much money on the FADE train he doesnt even know what to say.
as usual, hustle making up shit again. I will never bet for or against the Lakers. Never have I said you're incorrect on the lakers ats stat. My beef with you, and will be forever and ever, is Lamar vs. Kobe. It'll be tough to top your Vick is better than Manning rant, but this whole Odom is better than Kobe deal is almost as ridiculous. Can't wait to see your playoff picks, cuz thats when you pick, right?
Laughing at Hustle's assumption that Kobe sucks because of the Laker ATS. What a bunch of garbage. 0
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#213
Quote Originally Posted by hustle_man:
A casual observer might ask, "Well, how are they able to only squeak out games and allow other teams to keep it close?" That question was answered here -
"We talked about going to
That statement pretty much sums it up why the Lakers will not being covering ATS at a high rate for the rest of the season. Although Phil Jackson is the 2nd greatest coach in NBA History, he knows that the NBA is still a TEAM game and guys not playing TEAM basketball just dont get it done when it matters.
For all of you that have been riding the FADE train (which originally started 8 days earlier than this thread was made) The bolded text was the prediction I made the day I started this thread and as expected the Lakers easily choked down the stretch of the season. Without having a true clutch player and strong leadership to hold the troops together, the team went 5-8 SU and 4-9 ATS (which included dropping 4 straight until the team's defensive anchor - Kwame Brown returned)
Tonight's matchup -
LA Lakers @ Sacramento Kings +1.5 Total 220.5
The final game of the season for both teams. The Lakers are currently in the 7th seed but if they lose and Golden State wins, will drop to 8th. Golden State has to win because if they lose and the Clippers win, the Clippers will take over and clinch a playoff spot.
A lot of posters (mainly the ones in denial during the fade train) seem to think the Lakers might tank tonight's game in hopes of drawing the Dallas Mavericks, a team that probably outmatches them at every position on the floor, in the first round. Thinking like that is why the FADE train was able to go 15-4 in the last 19 as it was the Lakers' franchise breaking home loss to Dallas that started the FADE train.
With this game pretty much meaningless for Sacramento, let's watch to see will the Lakers play team ball and blow the Kings out (like last time) or will the team play uninterested, me-first basketball and the Lakers struggle to beat a team that has planned vacation two weeks ago?
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#218
The LA Lakers close out the regular season with a double digit victory over the Sacramento Kings on Wednesday night which avoided two things from happening:
- The team clinched the #7 seed in the playoffs for the 2nd straight year
- Phil Jackson (although he set a futilty record already) avoided posting a record of below .500 for the first time in his career.
Final FADE train statistics -
6-8 SU and 5-9 ATS (since thread) and 9-9 SU and 5-13 ATS overall (since 36 point home loss to Dallas)
Good luck in the playoffs everyone
- The team clinched the #7 seed in the playoffs for the 2nd straight year
- Phil Jackson (although he set a futilty record already) avoided posting a record of below .500 for the first time in his career.
Final FADE train statistics -
6-8 SU and 5-9 ATS (since thread) and 9-9 SU and 5-13 ATS overall (since 36 point home loss to Dallas)
Good luck in the playoffs everyone
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Posted:
#219
Quote Originally Posted by throwback420:
Feels good to get a win to make up for all the other games you dropped during the FADE train I assume? Sadly, the FADE train doesnt run through the playoffs but rest assured it'll be back next year.
Oh yeah, not a surprise the Lakers won the game, like I said before, TEAM ball conquers all
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#222
Hey Hustle, this guy, John Hollinger, NBA writer for ESPN.com, must be an idiot like the rest of us huh? He indicated Kobe was the 3rd best defensive player in the league as a shooting guard. This guy has no credibility, right? But you do. Next, I expect the usual comments from you, such as, you guys are all morons for reading articles and not watching the games. yada yada yada.
SHOOTING GUARD
Honorable mention: Raja Bell, Suns; Trenton Hassell, Timberwolves; Manu Ginobili, Spurs; Kirk Hinrich, Bulls.
Bell (2.1, 148.7) is a master thespian and the best in the league at drawing offensive fouls away from the ball. As distasteful as it might be that ref-baiting plays such a huge role in his arsenal, one must admit it's effective. That said, I think a few guys are a little better at on-ball defense.
Ginobili (4.2, 209.9) is a seriously underrated defender and perhaps the league's best at deflecting passes thrown by his man, but as with Parker his score overstates his contribution considerably thanks to Bowen and Duncan.
Hinrich (0.9, 61.0) has a great reputation but gets hurt here because he defends shooting guards almost exclusively; he'd probably rate much better if he could defend the point.
Hassell (1.5, 80.5) looked like the next Bowen three years ago but has slipped a bit since.
Third team: Kobe Bryant, Lakers (3.2, 254.4)
I'm as surprised by this one as you are; I had always felt Bryant turned it on and off at the defensive end, but apparently it was on a lot more than it was off this year.
I'm as surprised by this one as you are; I had always felt Bryant turned it on and off at the defensive end, but apparently it was on a lot more than it was off this year.
His numbers were fairly impressive considering all the heavy lifting he was doing at the other end, and the fact that he came into the year cold after recuperating from knee surgery.
Second team: Anthony Parker, Raptors (3.4, 198.8)
One of the year's biggest surprises was that Parker was able to come over from Europe and establish himself as a defensive stopper right away.
One of the year's biggest surprises was that Parker was able to come over from Europe and establish himself as a defensive stopper right away.
He helped the Raptors post a substantial defensive improvement that led directly to their Atlantic Division title.
First team: Bruce Bowen, Spurs (7.1, 426.3)
Obviously Bowen is a fantastic one-on-one defender, and considering he had the best per-minute and overall "points saved" scores in the league this year, apparently he hasn't lost much at 35.
I cheated a little by putting him at shooting guard instead of small forward, because there wasn't an overwhelming first-team candidate here and there were several at small forward.
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#224
WestCoast, do you really have to trouble yourself & do research on how Great Kobe is? everyone knows this in their hearts even as far away as china except the Haters! Is Kobe & the 4 zombies built for the championship? most likely not ...but hey, with this group, Lakers are in the playoffs & this is Huge in the west where almost all teams are stacked with talent to the max. So westcoast, the only comment to be given to these blind kobe haters should STFU period
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#225
Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:
Hey Hustle, this guy, John Hollinger, NBA writer for ESPN.com, must be an idiot like the rest of us huh? He indicated Kobe was the 3rd best defensive player in the league as a shooting guard. This guy has no credibility, right? But you do. Next, I expect the usual comments from you, such as, you guys are all morons for reading articles and not watching the games. yada yada yada.
From LA Lakers' assistant Coach Tex Winter -
Winter also admits that Bryant abandons aspects of the triangle offense with some regularity. But that's not Winter's main complaint with the guard:
"I'd like to see him play better defense," Winter said, adding that he had addressed the issue recently with Bryant but didn't come away with the idea that Bryant was intent on changing his approach. (Sounds like Tex Winter is a no knowledge, hater)"You know Kobe," Winter said with a chuckle. "He has his game plan. (Proving Bryant is not coachable) I think he heard me. But he feels there's a certain way he's got to play the game. But it doesn't involve a lot of basically sound defense." (Sure looks like a great defender to me)
Because the Lakers need so much of his effort at the offensive end, Bryant has adopted a save-energy plan on the defensive end, Winter said. "He's basically playing a lot of one-man zone. He's doing a lot of switching, zoning up, trying to come up with the interception.
"The way Kobe plays defensively affects the team," Winter added. "Anybody that doesn't play consistently good defense hurts the team. ( Definitely a hater now. Doesnt he know Bryant is a lock down defender? John Hollinger says so )
From Coach Phil Jackson -
"Obviously, to a person that has been watching the games, it shows that his defense has slipped." (UH OH. Phil Jackson is LYING to the press once again.) Bryant has had operations on his knees and it's harder for him to get into a defensive stance."He likes to roam and take risks which can be good at times but not always. He's not picking up steals like he used to." (But Hollinger says he's the 2nd best at SG in the NBA )
Bryant doesn't move laterally as well as he used to without a drop step because of knee tendinitis.
From Coach Michael Cooper -
Cooper was asked to name the best defender on the Lakers.
"Luke Walton is very good," Cooper said. "Smush Parker is decent."
And that was it. (LOL... Not even mention as tops on the team. But I guess Cooper was a hater as well because well all know he didnt know anything about defense. )
So yeah, I think its safe to say that just like hustle_man, those NBA veteran coaches and players ( all three of which have NBA championships) have no idea what they are talking about.
It was easy to prove westcoasttrojan wrong before but now its getting as easy as it is for a grown man to beat a toddler in 21. Give it up kid, you've been banned from any basketball related conversation.
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