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    Would you rather have Aaron Rodgers now or Peyton in his prime?

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    LETGOPACK1234
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2011 - 8:47 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:

    You're clearly biased, my man. Please stop before you make yourself look any dumber. Kid's good, but no Manning or Brady. Manning has carried his team for over ten years. Brady has taken his team on his back when they needed it most. He hasn't proved he can do it all on his own, and that's that. Aaron Rodgers hasn't even had the opportunity to yet. He'll get his chances eventually, and we'll see then. Until then, he isn't better than either of the two.

    If you're using the rings argument to say him and Manning are on the same level, then you still lose that one. Manning IS the Indianapolis Colts. He won that Superbowl single-handed. Green Bay was the best team last year by far. All Aaron had to do to win was not fuck it up. He didn't have to will his team to victory. They could've won with any of the top 10 QBs in the league.

     

     

    "Brady has taken his team on his back when they needed it most. He hasn't proved he can do it all on his own, and that's that. Aaron Rodgers hasn't even had the opportunity to yet. He'll get his chances eventually, and we'll see then. Until then, he isn't better than either of the two."

     

    I will stop after this.  Please provide me explains of what Brady and Manning have done to carry their team that Rodgers hasnt?? 

    Please do.

    If winning 4 straight ROAD playoff games isnt carrying your team, then I guess I will never understand what is. 

     

    What more can a QB do, then go into the top #3 seeds and win ON THEIR HOME FIELD???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:

    You're clearly biased, my man. Please stop before you make yourself look any dumber. Kid's good, but no Manning or Brady. Manning has carried his team for over ten years. Brady has taken his team on his back when they needed it most. He hasn't proved he can do it all on his own, and that's that. Aaron Rodgers hasn't even had the opportunity to yet. He'll get his chances eventually, and we'll see then. Until then, he isn't better than either of the two.

    If you're using the rings argument to say him and Manning are on the same level, then you still lose that one. Manning IS the Indianapolis Colts. He won that Superbowl single-handed. Green Bay was the best team last year by far. All Aaron had to do to win was not fuck it up. He didn't have to will his team to victory. They could've won with any of the top 10 QBs in the league.

     

     

    "Brady has taken his team on his back when they needed it most. He hasn't proved he can do it all on his own, and that's that. Aaron Rodgers hasn't even had the opportunity to yet. He'll get his chances eventually, and we'll see then. Until then, he isn't better than either of the two."

     

    I will stop after this.  Please provide me explains of what Brady and Manning have done to carry their team that Rodgers hasnt?? 

    Please do.

    If winning 4 straight ROAD playoff games isnt carrying your team, then I guess I will never understand what is. 

     

    What more can a QB do, then go into the top #3 seeds and win ON THEIR HOME FIELD???

     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2011 - 8:49 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:

    You're clearly biased, my man. Please stop before you make yourself look any dumber. Kid's good, but no Manning or Brady. Manning has carried his team for over ten years. Brady has taken his team on his back when they needed it most. He hasn't proved he can do it all on his own, and that's that. Aaron Rodgers hasn't even had the opportunity to yet. He'll get his chances eventually, and we'll see then. Until then, he isn't better than either of the two.

    If you're using the rings argument to say him and Manning are on the same level, then you still lose that one. Manning IS the Indianapolis Colts. He won that Superbowl single-handed. Green Bay was the best team last year by far. All Aaron had to do to win was not fuck it up. He didn't have to will his team to victory. They could've won with any of the top 10 QBs in the league.

    You're the one saying Roethlisberger is better than Rodgers.  You're the one saying Jordy, James Jones, and Donald Driver (right now - he's too old) would be good receivers without an elite QB.  You're the one who should stop before making yourself look any dumber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:

    You're clearly biased, my man. Please stop before you make yourself look any dumber. Kid's good, but no Manning or Brady. Manning has carried his team for over ten years. Brady has taken his team on his back when they needed it most. He hasn't proved he can do it all on his own, and that's that. Aaron Rodgers hasn't even had the opportunity to yet. He'll get his chances eventually, and we'll see then. Until then, he isn't better than either of the two.

    If you're using the rings argument to say him and Manning are on the same level, then you still lose that one. Manning IS the Indianapolis Colts. He won that Superbowl single-handed. Green Bay was the best team last year by far. All Aaron had to do to win was not fuck it up. He didn't have to will his team to victory. They could've won with any of the top 10 QBs in the league.

    You're the one saying Roethlisberger is better than Rodgers.  You're the one saying Jordy, James Jones, and Donald Driver (right now - he's too old) would be good receivers without an elite QB.  You're the one who should stop before making yourself look any dumber.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2011 - 8:54 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:

    You're clearly biased, my man. Please stop before you make yourself look any dumber. Kid's good, but no Manning or Brady. Manning has carried his team for over ten years. Brady has taken his team on his back when they needed it most. He hasn't proved he can do it all on his own, and that's that. Aaron Rodgers hasn't even had the opportunity to yet. He'll get his chances eventually, and we'll see then. Until then, he isn't better than either of the two.

    If you're using the rings argument to say him and Manning are on the same level, then you still lose that one. Manning IS the Indianapolis Colts. He won that Superbowl single-handed. Green Bay was the best team last year by far. All Aaron had to do to win was not fuck it up. He didn't have to will his team to victory. They could've won with any of the top 10 QBs in the league.

     

    Ok, I lied...1 more....

    "Green Bay was the best team last year by far. All Aaron had to do to win was not fuck it up. He didn't have to will his team to victory. "

     

    Is that why they had to win the last 2 games just to make the playoffs????  Is that why they were the #6 seed????

     

    The year the Manning won the super-bowl...HE PLAYED THREE HOME GAMES....he didnt even score a td agains the Ravens...they won 15-6...they beat the chiefs the game before giving up 8 pionts...The defense gave up 14 points the 2 games....yeah Manning had to do everything to win that

    Oh wait, then he had to beat REX GROSSMAN for the super-bowl....

    Come on man get real...

    The Packers won the superbowl as the #6 seed with 4 road games, Manning had every game at home

     

    Jesus christ, you are a moron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:

    You're clearly biased, my man. Please stop before you make yourself look any dumber. Kid's good, but no Manning or Brady. Manning has carried his team for over ten years. Brady has taken his team on his back when they needed it most. He hasn't proved he can do it all on his own, and that's that. Aaron Rodgers hasn't even had the opportunity to yet. He'll get his chances eventually, and we'll see then. Until then, he isn't better than either of the two.

    If you're using the rings argument to say him and Manning are on the same level, then you still lose that one. Manning IS the Indianapolis Colts. He won that Superbowl single-handed. Green Bay was the best team last year by far. All Aaron had to do to win was not fuck it up. He didn't have to will his team to victory. They could've won with any of the top 10 QBs in the league.

     

    Ok, I lied...1 more....

    "Green Bay was the best team last year by far. All Aaron had to do to win was not fuck it up. He didn't have to will his team to victory. "

     

    Is that why they had to win the last 2 games just to make the playoffs????  Is that why they were the #6 seed????

     

    The year the Manning won the super-bowl...HE PLAYED THREE HOME GAMES....he didnt even score a td agains the Ravens...they won 15-6...they beat the chiefs the game before giving up 8 pionts...The defense gave up 14 points the 2 games....yeah Manning had to do everything to win that

    Oh wait, then he had to beat REX GROSSMAN for the super-bowl....

    Come on man get real...

    The Packers won the superbowl as the #6 seed with 4 road games, Manning had every game at home

     

    Jesus christ, you are a moron

     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2011 - 8:58 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by MrTuttle05:


    You're the one saying Roethlisberger is better than Rodgers.  You're the one saying Jordy, James Jones, and Donald Driver (right now - he's too old) would be good receivers without an elite QB.  You're the one who should stop before making yourself look any dumber.

     

     

    Exactly, Driver is so great, that even in his prime he made the pro-bowl just twice.  That was even when he was the #1 wr. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTuttle05:


    You're the one saying Roethlisberger is better than Rodgers.  You're the one saying Jordy, James Jones, and Donald Driver (right now - he's too old) would be good receivers without an elite QB.  You're the one who should stop before making yourself look any dumber.

     

     

    Exactly, Driver is so great, that even in his prime he made the pro-bowl just twice.  That was even when he was the #1 wr. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2011 - 9:12 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    LetsGoPack... i have officially lost any respect i might have had for you...



    you're just another fan on this site...





    Totally agreed wit u, this dude talkin about #18 would be 5-10 without his SB run but yet keep talkin bout Rogers is 4-0 being a wild card on his SB run, we should all leave this thread and get back to cappin, this dude is a joke, better QB not better team, clark is a scrub without manning, Finley is a natrual beast. Put manning on this GB team i think #18 would have 18 SB rings lol.

    Lets all get back to CAPPin and leave this retard wit his man crush on rogers 8==) .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    LetsGoPack... i have officially lost any respect i might have had for you...



    you're just another fan on this site...





    Totally agreed wit u, this dude talkin about #18 would be 5-10 without his SB run but yet keep talkin bout Rogers is 4-0 being a wild card on his SB run, we should all leave this thread and get back to cappin, this dude is a joke, better QB not better team, clark is a scrub without manning, Finley is a natrual beast. Put manning on this GB team i think #18 would have 18 SB rings lol.

    Lets all get back to CAPPin and leave this retard wit his man crush on rogers 8==) .


     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2011 - 9:14 PM ET #81

    and tha funniest shit is none of us said rogers suck or is weak, we all agreed rogers might be playin tha best ball of all QB but to compare him wit #18 as who is tha best is jus OUT OF LINE at this point of his young career.  wat a clownd this fool is.


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    and tha funniest shit is none of us said rogers suck or is weak, we all agreed rogers might be playin tha best ball of all QB but to compare him wit #18 as who is tha best is jus OUT OF LINE at this point of his young career.  wat a clownd this fool is.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2011 - 9:23 PM ET #82

    I apologized...I went back and looked, the Colts won AT Balt....

    Fact is they still won their own division and opened at home.

    As for "carrying" his team and "Manning WINNING" the superbowl....

    Here is how he did in those playoffs...

    Game 1-HOME against KC...Manning had 3 picks The Chiefs had 126 TOTAL yards....Manning for sure carried his team

    Game 2- @ Balt...COlts won 15-6 on 5 FIELD GOALS....3 of which were set up by defense or punt returns....Manning carried them that game too

    Game 3...AT HOME AFC Championship...must be nice to be at home for the 2nd time and in title game...he had a great comeback in the 2nd half after throwing pick TDS....he cameback becauseof his mistakes....

    Superbowl....Against the GREAT BEARS offense and REx Grossman...Manning was so great that he was 25-38 AND A WHOOPING 1 TD....The Colts RAN THE BALL for 197 YARDS....Pretty sure Rex had 4 TO's including a pick 6....

    Ok, now I see why you said MANNING carried his team and MANNING won the super-bowl

     

    Wow, the deeper I look into the, the dumber you look

    His defense won 3 of the 4 games

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    I apologized...I went back and looked, the Colts won AT Balt....

    Fact is they still won their own division and opened at home.

    As for "carrying" his team and "Manning WINNING" the superbowl....

    Here is how he did in those playoffs...

    Game 1-HOME against KC...Manning had 3 picks The Chiefs had 126 TOTAL yards....Manning for sure carried his team

    Game 2- @ Balt...COlts won 15-6 on 5 FIELD GOALS....3 of which were set up by defense or punt returns....Manning carried them that game too

    Game 3...AT HOME AFC Championship...must be nice to be at home for the 2nd time and in title game...he had a great comeback in the 2nd half after throwing pick TDS....he cameback becauseof his mistakes....

    Superbowl....Against the GREAT BEARS offense and REx Grossman...Manning was so great that he was 25-38 AND A WHOOPING 1 TD....The Colts RAN THE BALL for 197 YARDS....Pretty sure Rex had 4 TO's including a pick 6....

    Ok, now I see why you said MANNING carried his team and MANNING won the super-bowl

     

    Wow, the deeper I look into the, the dumber you look

    His defense won 3 of the 4 games

     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2011 - 9:25 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by MRxKrazz:

    and tha funniest shit is none of us said rogers suck or is weak, we all agreed rogers might be playin tha best ball of all QB but to compare him wit #18 as who is tha best is jus OUT OF LINE at this point of his young career.  wat a clownd this fool is.


     

     

    Hooked on phonics didnt work for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRxKrazz:

    and tha funniest shit is none of us said rogers suck or is weak, we all agreed rogers might be playin tha best ball of all QB but to compare him wit #18 as who is tha best is jus OUT OF LINE at this point of his young career.  wat a clownd this fool is.


     

     

    Hooked on phonics didnt work for you

     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2011 - 9:40 PM ET #84

    Derrrrty19-

    Please when you have time, explain to me how Manning "carried" his team and WON the Superbowl himself that year???

    And, please compare that to how Rodgers didnt??

    The Colts defense gave up 8, 6, 20, and 10 points.  Taking away the score the offense or st gave up.

    Thats 11 POINTS A GAME And if you take away the 1 game they played a QB in Brady, the defense have up 8 PPG

    So, Manning carried his team, and Rodgers winning FOUR ROAD games wasnt Beating the #3, #1, #2, #1 Seeds

    Colts defense gave up 44, Packers gave up 76

     

    I cant wait for your response on how Manning carried his team and won the super-bowl for them and Rodgers didnt.

    Please hurry with this response. 

     

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    Derrrrty19-

    Please when you have time, explain to me how Manning "carried" his team and WON the Superbowl himself that year???

    And, please compare that to how Rodgers didnt??

    The Colts defense gave up 8, 6, 20, and 10 points.  Taking away the score the offense or st gave up.

    Thats 11 POINTS A GAME And if you take away the 1 game they played a QB in Brady, the defense have up 8 PPG

    So, Manning carried his team, and Rodgers winning FOUR ROAD games wasnt Beating the #3, #1, #2, #1 Seeds

    Colts defense gave up 44, Packers gave up 76

     

    I cant wait for your response on how Manning carried his team and won the super-bowl for them and Rodgers didnt.

    Please hurry with this response. 

     

     
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    I've stopped caring. There's no convincing you.

    And Packers were obviously the best team last year, considering they won the Super Bowl.

    Aaron Rodgers just hasn't been in this league long enough to prove that he is a better QB than Manning, Brady, Brees, or even Roethlisberger. These 4 have proven themselves more than enough. it's just Aaron Rodgers has some more proving to do for the sake of being one of the great QBs in the NFL.

    I see there is no convincing you, which is a shame considering I respect you as a handicapper on this site. We mustn't let our personal biases get in the way of our views of football as a whole. Any knowledgeable NFL follower will agree with me that Manning and Brady are better quarterbacks than Rodgers (Brees and Roethlisberger I could give you, but that's just my opinion).

    Packers are a great team, Aaron Rodgers is a good QB with a lot of potential. I hope you can see that you are truly blessed as a fan of your team, and saying that Aaron Rodgers is among those 4 as one of the best QBs in the NFL isn't an insult by any means.



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    I've stopped caring. There's no convincing you.

    And Packers were obviously the best team last year, considering they won the Super Bowl.

    Aaron Rodgers just hasn't been in this league long enough to prove that he is a better QB than Manning, Brady, Brees, or even Roethlisberger. These 4 have proven themselves more than enough. it's just Aaron Rodgers has some more proving to do for the sake of being one of the great QBs in the NFL.

    I see there is no convincing you, which is a shame considering I respect you as a handicapper on this site. We mustn't let our personal biases get in the way of our views of football as a whole. Any knowledgeable NFL follower will agree with me that Manning and Brady are better quarterbacks than Rodgers (Brees and Roethlisberger I could give you, but that's just my opinion).

    Packers are a great team, Aaron Rodgers is a good QB with a lot of potential. I hope you can see that you are truly blessed as a fan of your team, and saying that Aaron Rodgers is among those 4 as one of the best QBs in the NFL isn't an insult by any means.



     
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    Apologies for being overly Anti-Aaron Rodgers in my earlier posts. Just very sick of people calling him a great one already. He's still got a ways to go.
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    Apologies for being overly Anti-Aaron Rodgers in my earlier posts. Just very sick of people calling him a great one already. He's still got a ways to go.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark were better threats than Rodgers has.  Those are 3 hall of fame players.

    You telling me that Jennings, Nelson and Jones will ALL be in the hall of fame.

    Manning HAD better weapons than Rodgers


    i disagree with this...i think jennings is superior in talent to any of those guys.  manning made those guys..wayne is no better than driver/james jones...randall cobb has way more talent than any brandon stokley, austin collie or blair white u want to throw out there.  dallas clark is always injured and nothing without peyton...jacob tamme was an all pro tight end with peyton...jermichael finley is a beast of a tight end with more talent that any of these guys i just spoke of.

    packers d better which helps a rod....a rod may be better one day but peyton was the best qb of all time imo...not necessarily on best team is all

    he made that team mate...just look at them this year...worst team in decades...all because he aint there...its not like anyone else left this team...all because peyton isnt there...this team wins the division easy if he is there...easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark were better threats than Rodgers has.  Those are 3 hall of fame players.

    You telling me that Jennings, Nelson and Jones will ALL be in the hall of fame.

    Manning HAD better weapons than Rodgers


    i disagree with this...i think jennings is superior in talent to any of those guys.  manning made those guys..wayne is no better than driver/james jones...randall cobb has way more talent than any brandon stokley, austin collie or blair white u want to throw out there.  dallas clark is always injured and nothing without peyton...jacob tamme was an all pro tight end with peyton...jermichael finley is a beast of a tight end with more talent that any of these guys i just spoke of.

    packers d better which helps a rod....a rod may be better one day but peyton was the best qb of all time imo...not necessarily on best team is all

    he made that team mate...just look at them this year...worst team in decades...all because he aint there...its not like anyone else left this team...all because peyton isnt there...this team wins the division easy if he is there...easy
     
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    Rodgers
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    Rodgers
     
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    the real question is favre or rodgers....he aint peyton discussion material yet...i dont care how many super bowls the kid wins...i still consider manning better qb than brady and brady got more rings..i dont give a crap brady had a better team most if not all years
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    the real question is favre or rodgers....he aint peyton discussion material yet...i dont care how many super bowls the kid wins...i still consider manning better qb than brady and brady got more rings..i dont give a crap brady had a better team most if not all years
     
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    Last question to those talking about how bad the Colts are, and how Clark and Wayne are terrible and were ONLY good because of Manning.

    Have any of you actually WATCHED their games this year???  or just going off their stats???

    Ive WATCHED almost every game.  Wayne and Clark are still very good.  They are wide open and open 85% of the time.  The ball does not get to them.  There is nothing they can do when the ball is rolling to them or 5 yds from them.

    To say they were only good because manning is a fricken joke.  They would be pro-bowlers with half a qb.   They are still some of the best at their position.  They are open all the time, but Painter shouldnt even be in the NFL.

    If you want to say Wayne and Clark were only good because of Manning please stop calling yourself a football fan and acting like you have football knowledge, because you are clueless

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    Last question to those talking about how bad the Colts are, and how Clark and Wayne are terrible and were ONLY good because of Manning.

    Have any of you actually WATCHED their games this year???  or just going off their stats???

    Ive WATCHED almost every game.  Wayne and Clark are still very good.  They are wide open and open 85% of the time.  The ball does not get to them.  There is nothing they can do when the ball is rolling to them or 5 yds from them.

    To say they were only good because manning is a fricken joke.  They would be pro-bowlers with half a qb.   They are still some of the best at their position.  They are open all the time, but Painter shouldnt even be in the NFL.

    If you want to say Wayne and Clark were only good because of Manning please stop calling yourself a football fan and acting like you have football knowledge, because you are clueless

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:


    Exactly. I'm saying the Packers are a great team, and Aaron Rodgers is a good QB. But you don't compare him to Manning and even Brady because he's having a good year.

    Like I said, talk to me in 5 years. 



    exactly... talk to me in 5 years...


    LetsGoPack... you are exposing your extreme homerism and lack of football IQ... you might as well be a little baby playing with it's dick in the middle of the street right now...

    STFU about this idiotic debate... thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:


    Exactly. I'm saying the Packers are a great team, and Aaron Rodgers is a good QB. But you don't compare him to Manning and even Brady because he's having a good year.

    Like I said, talk to me in 5 years. 



    exactly... talk to me in 5 years...


    LetsGoPack... you are exposing your extreme homerism and lack of football IQ... you might as well be a little baby playing with it's dick in the middle of the street right now...

    STFU about this idiotic debate... thank you!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:




    exactly... talk to me in 5 years...


    LetsGoPack... you are exposing your extreme homerism and lack of football IQ... you might as well be a little baby playing with it's dick in the middle of the street right now...

    STFU about this idiotic debate... thank you!

     

     

    Ok internet tough guy, fuck off

    Explain to me why I am so wrong???

    Please do???

    Manning DIDNT win his teams superbowl for them.  He is 9-10 in the playoffs.  His team was winning his division YEAR AFTER YEAR having home-field in the playoffs.

    Rodgers WON FOUR ROAD GAMES.....

    Everybody can only say I am a homer, but refuses answer the questions that I ask.

    I bring up stats and points and prove them wrong and the only thing they come back to say is I am a homer.

    Provide me information that shows I am wrong.

    All you can do is try to insult me over a computer screen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:




    exactly... talk to me in 5 years...


    LetsGoPack... you are exposing your extreme homerism and lack of football IQ... you might as well be a little baby playing with it's dick in the middle of the street right now...

    STFU about this idiotic debate... thank you!

     

     

    Ok internet tough guy, fuck off

    Explain to me why I am so wrong???

    Please do???

    Manning DIDNT win his teams superbowl for them.  He is 9-10 in the playoffs.  His team was winning his division YEAR AFTER YEAR having home-field in the playoffs.

    Rodgers WON FOUR ROAD GAMES.....

    Everybody can only say I am a homer, but refuses answer the questions that I ask.

    I bring up stats and points and prove them wrong and the only thing they come back to say is I am a homer.

    Provide me information that shows I am wrong.

    All you can do is try to insult me over a computer screen

     
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    I have no respect for you on this forum anymore my man. You're beating this to death. Grow up.



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    I have no respect for you on this forum anymore my man. You're beating this to death. Grow up.



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:

    I have no respect for you on this forum anymore my man. You're beating this to death. Grow up.



     

     

     

    Oh no, a guy on covers.com lost respect for me....what will I do now

     

    I could give 2 shits what anybody on here thinks about me.  This is a gambling and sports website.

    Its people opinions.  I dont dislike someone if they disagree with me.

    People want to call me out and insult me, thats fine. 

    All I ask for is someone to answer my questions, and respond to what information I provide.

    NOBODY does.  Instead they call me a homer and insult me.

    Why does nobody answer, because the information I provide, while being a homer, is correct information.

     

    The question was who would you rather have??  I feel as Great as Manning was, he had SO MANY chances to do more than he did.  He was GREAT in the regular season, but when it came to the playoffs he FAILED.

    You all can say his teams werent good and they had no defense.  BUT YOURE WRONG.  I showed the year he won his ring, his defense have up 11, YES 11 points ppg. 

    He had home game after home game in the playoffs and went 9-10.

    He had GREAT talent around him.

    He never sniffed completing 73% of his passes for a season, playing 50%+ of his games indoors against shitty divisions. 

    He couldnt run for a big 1st to change momentum. 

    He is the smartest QB to ever play the game and changed the way teams had to play defense.

    But, if I was building a team for the next 5-7 years, I would take a QB with the skills of Rodgers over Manning.

    Please stop homer calls and insults, they hurt my feelings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:

    I have no respect for you on this forum anymore my man. You're beating this to death. Grow up.



     

     

     

    Oh no, a guy on covers.com lost respect for me....what will I do now

     

    I could give 2 shits what anybody on here thinks about me.  This is a gambling and sports website.

    Its people opinions.  I dont dislike someone if they disagree with me.

    People want to call me out and insult me, thats fine. 

    All I ask for is someone to answer my questions, and respond to what information I provide.

    NOBODY does.  Instead they call me a homer and insult me.

    Why does nobody answer, because the information I provide, while being a homer, is correct information.

     

    The question was who would you rather have??  I feel as Great as Manning was, he had SO MANY chances to do more than he did.  He was GREAT in the regular season, but when it came to the playoffs he FAILED.

    You all can say his teams werent good and they had no defense.  BUT YOURE WRONG.  I showed the year he won his ring, his defense have up 11, YES 11 points ppg. 

    He had home game after home game in the playoffs and went 9-10.

    He had GREAT talent around him.

    He never sniffed completing 73% of his passes for a season, playing 50%+ of his games indoors against shitty divisions. 

    He couldnt run for a big 1st to change momentum. 

    He is the smartest QB to ever play the game and changed the way teams had to play defense.

    But, if I was building a team for the next 5-7 years, I would take a QB with the skills of Rodgers over Manning.

    Please stop homer calls and insults, they hurt my feelings

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

     

     

    Ok internet tough guy, fuck off

    Explain to me why I am so wrong???

    Please do???

    Manning DIDNT win his teams superbowl for them.  He is 9-10 in the playoffs.  His team was winning his division YEAR AFTER YEAR having home-field in the playoffs.

    Rodgers WON FOUR ROAD GAMES.....

    Everybody can only say I am a homer, but refuses answer the questions that I ask.

    I bring up stats and points and prove them wrong and the only thing they come back to say is I am a homer.

    Provide me information that shows I am wrong.

    All you can do is try to insult me over a computer screen

    "Ive WATCHED almost every game.  Wayne and Clark are still very good.  They are wide open and open 85% of the time.  The ball does not get to them.  There is nothing they can do when the ball is rolling to them or 5 yds from them.

    To say they were only good because manning is a fricken joke.  They would be pro-bowlers with half a qb.   They are still some of the best at their position.  They are open all the time, but Painter shouldnt even be in the NFL."


    You just contradicted yourself. Those weren't stats, but because you said it, it makes you right, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

     

     

    Ok internet tough guy, fuck off

    Explain to me why I am so wrong???

    Please do???

    Manning DIDNT win his teams superbowl for them.  He is 9-10 in the playoffs.  His team was winning his division YEAR AFTER YEAR having home-field in the playoffs.

    Rodgers WON FOUR ROAD GAMES.....

    Everybody can only say I am a homer, but refuses answer the questions that I ask.

    I bring up stats and points and prove them wrong and the only thing they come back to say is I am a homer.

    Provide me information that shows I am wrong.

    All you can do is try to insult me over a computer screen

    "Ive WATCHED almost every game.  Wayne and Clark are still very good.  They are wide open and open 85% of the time.  The ball does not get to them.  There is nothing they can do when the ball is rolling to them or 5 yds from them.

    To say they were only good because manning is a fricken joke.  They would be pro-bowlers with half a qb.   They are still some of the best at their position.  They are open all the time, but Painter shouldnt even be in the NFL."


    You just contradicted yourself. Those weren't stats, but because you said it, it makes you right, huh?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:


    You just contradicted yourself. Those weren't stats, but because you said it, it makes you right, huh?

     

    Explain???  What did I say that was incorrect??  Because I said Wayne and Clark are still open when they run their routes and the passes bounce to them??

    Well, have you watched their games??  Or you going off their fantasy football numbers like 70% of other people??

    Cause yes, from their stats they look like awful players.  But, if you actually watch their games you would feel sorry for them, becuase they are doing everything they did with Manning, but they arent getting the ball. 

    It has nothing to do with them not being good players.  Putting up offensive numbers includes many factors, including a QB who can throw the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:


    You just contradicted yourself. Those weren't stats, but because you said it, it makes you right, huh?

     

    Explain???  What did I say that was incorrect??  Because I said Wayne and Clark are still open when they run their routes and the passes bounce to them??

    Well, have you watched their games??  Or you going off their fantasy football numbers like 70% of other people??

    Cause yes, from their stats they look like awful players.  But, if you actually watch their games you would feel sorry for them, becuase they are doing everything they did with Manning, but they arent getting the ball. 

    It has nothing to do with them not being good players.  Putting up offensive numbers includes many factors, including a QB who can throw the ball.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2011 - 1:53 PM ET #97

    Derrrty---

    You still refuse to answer my question to your statement that MANNING WON THE SUPERBOWL FOR THEM THAT YER???

    You continue to insult me and call me a homer, but refuse to explain how he did that????

    I gave you game by game break down....here it is again.

    So please, prior to insulting me and calling me a homer, please explain HOW THE COLTS WON THE SUPERBOWLTHAT YEAR ONLY BECAUSE MANNING???

     

    Game 1-HOME against KC...Manning had 3 picks The Chiefs had 126 TOTAL yards....Manning for sure carried his team

    Game 2- @ Balt...COlts won 15-6 on 5 FIELD GOALS....3 of which were set up by defense or punt returns....Manning carried them that game too

    Game 3...AT HOME AFC Championship...must be nice to be at home for the 2nd time and in title game...he had a great comeback in the 2nd half after throwing pick TDS....he cameback becauseof his mistakes....

    Superbowl....Against the GREAT BEARS offense and REx Grossman...Manning was so great that he was 25-38 AND A WHOOPING 1 TD....The Colts RAN THE BALL for 197 YARDS....Pretty sure Rex had 4 TO's including a pick 6....

    Ok, now I see why you said MANNING carried his team and MANNING won the super-bowl

    Wow, the deeper I look into the, the dumber you look

    His defense won 3 of the 4 games

     

    The Colts defense gave up 8, 6, 20, and 10 points. Taking away the score the offense or st gave up.

    Thats 11 POINTS A GAME And if you take away the 1 game they played a QB in Brady, the defense have up 8 PPG

    So, Manning carried his team, and Rodgers winning FOUR ROAD games wasnt Beating the #3, #1, #2, #1 Seeds

    Colts defense gave up 44, Packers gave up 76

    I cant wait for your response on how Manning carried his team and won the super-bowl for them and Rodgers didnt.

    Please hurry with this response.

     

     

     

    All i expect from you is saying you have no respect for me, and I have no football knowledge and bla bla. 

    Because, usaully when I make a statement, and someone provides me 4-5 PROVEN stats to prove I am wrong, I usually refuse to answer and change the subject and try to insult the other person

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    Derrrty---

    You still refuse to answer my question to your statement that MANNING WON THE SUPERBOWL FOR THEM THAT YER???

    You continue to insult me and call me a homer, but refuse to explain how he did that????

    I gave you game by game break down....here it is again.

    So please, prior to insulting me and calling me a homer, please explain HOW THE COLTS WON THE SUPERBOWLTHAT YEAR ONLY BECAUSE MANNING???

     

    Game 1-HOME against KC...Manning had 3 picks The Chiefs had 126 TOTAL yards....Manning for sure carried his team

    Game 2- @ Balt...COlts won 15-6 on 5 FIELD GOALS....3 of which were set up by defense or punt returns....Manning carried them that game too

    Game 3...AT HOME AFC Championship...must be nice to be at home for the 2nd time and in title game...he had a great comeback in the 2nd half after throwing pick TDS....he cameback becauseof his mistakes....

    Superbowl....Against the GREAT BEARS offense and REx Grossman...Manning was so great that he was 25-38 AND A WHOOPING 1 TD....The Colts RAN THE BALL for 197 YARDS....Pretty sure Rex had 4 TO's including a pick 6....

    Ok, now I see why you said MANNING carried his team and MANNING won the super-bowl

    Wow, the deeper I look into the, the dumber you look

    His defense won 3 of the 4 games

     

    The Colts defense gave up 8, 6, 20, and 10 points. Taking away the score the offense or st gave up.

    Thats 11 POINTS A GAME And if you take away the 1 game they played a QB in Brady, the defense have up 8 PPG

    So, Manning carried his team, and Rodgers winning FOUR ROAD games wasnt Beating the #3, #1, #2, #1 Seeds

    Colts defense gave up 44, Packers gave up 76

    I cant wait for your response on how Manning carried his team and won the super-bowl for them and Rodgers didnt.

    Please hurry with this response.

     

     

     

    All i expect from you is saying you have no respect for me, and I have no football knowledge and bla bla. 

    Because, usaully when I make a statement, and someone provides me 4-5 PROVEN stats to prove I am wrong, I usually refuse to answer and change the subject and try to insult the other person

     
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    You sure showed me man. 
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    You sure showed me man. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:

    You sure showed me man. 

     

    All I want is an answer.  The only thing you can do is divert the question and/or insult me. 

    You say I am wrong and I know nothing.

    Tell me how Manning is the reason the Colts made it to the superbowl that year and won it?

    Its not hard.  I am a homer who a lack of football knowledge and IQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrrty19:

    You sure showed me man. 

     

    All I want is an answer.  The only thing you can do is divert the question and/or insult me. 

    You say I am wrong and I know nothing.

    Tell me how Manning is the reason the Colts made it to the superbowl that year and won it?

    Its not hard.  I am a homer who a lack of football knowledge and IQ.

     
     
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    Peyton is the best ever.... well at least ever since I started watching since 91.
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    Peyton is the best ever.... well at least ever since I started watching since 91.
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