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    Would you rather have Aaron Rodgers now or Peyton in his prime?

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    marcsaim
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 2:59 AM ET #26

    Dude, it's Peyton. The better question is who would you rather have Rodgers now or Favre in his prime?
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    Dude, it's Peyton. The better question is who would you rather have Rodgers now or Favre in his prime?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 3:07 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    smartbets - It's not even close? Are you kidding me? Peyton Manning has won 1 super bowl and is a .500 qb in the playoffs.

    Aaron Rodgers may break many records this season and the ultimate perfect season is still far away but a distinct possibility, but it's not even close? hmmm

    You two ought to get a room together and settle this once and for all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    smartbets - It's not even close? Are you kidding me? Peyton Manning has won 1 super bowl and is a .500 qb in the playoffs.

    Aaron Rodgers may break many records this season and the ultimate perfect season is still far away but a distinct possibility, but it's not even close? hmmm

    You two ought to get a room together and settle this once and for all

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 5:04 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    i mean honestly... i love Rodgers, he's gonna be great... but at this point in his career, he is really not even a fragment of what Manning was in his prime... the guy completely redefined what it means to be a game-managing QB...

    if you don't immediately understand this fact, you're just another fan shooting off a fan opinion... please just stop with these ridiculous hypotheticals!
    Going to be? WTF more does the guy have to do, go both ways and be a shut down corner?  He wins a Super Bowl in his third year, shredding one of the best defensive teams in the past decade; picks up where he left off last year and on pace to break some of the most untouchable QB records of all time.  Yeah, he's going to be great in time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    i mean honestly... i love Rodgers, he's gonna be great... but at this point in his career, he is really not even a fragment of what Manning was in his prime... the guy completely redefined what it means to be a game-managing QB...

    if you don't immediately understand this fact, you're just another fan shooting off a fan opinion... please just stop with these ridiculous hypotheticals!
    Going to be? WTF more does the guy have to do, go both ways and be a shut down corner?  He wins a Super Bowl in his third year, shredding one of the best defensive teams in the past decade; picks up where he left off last year and on pace to break some of the most untouchable QB records of all time.  Yeah, he's going to be great in time...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 8:33 AM ET #29

    Packers "haters" are great.....

    I will take the guy on track to win 2 superbowls in his 1st 4 years starting

    Someone with much better numbers and only going to improve

    You can have Manning and his 9-19 PLAYOFF record

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    Packers "haters" are great.....

    I will take the guy on track to win 2 superbowls in his 1st 4 years starting

    Someone with much better numbers and only going to improve

    You can have Manning and his 9-19 PLAYOFF record

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 8:36 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    i mean honestly... i love Rodgers, he's gonna be great... but at this point in his career, he is really not even a fragment of what Manning was in his prime... the guy completely redefined what it means to be a game-managing QB...

    if you don't immediately understand this fact, you're just another fan shooting off a fan opinion... please just stop with these ridiculous hypotheticals!

     

    Maybe Manning redefined game-managing football, but what Rodgers has done and is doing, is also redefining the QB position today.  What he has done these last 16 games and will continue to do, HAS NEVER been done before.  Even just his almost 73% Completions has never been close to be touched my Manning or Brady

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    i mean honestly... i love Rodgers, he's gonna be great... but at this point in his career, he is really not even a fragment of what Manning was in his prime... the guy completely redefined what it means to be a game-managing QB...

    if you don't immediately understand this fact, you're just another fan shooting off a fan opinion... please just stop with these ridiculous hypotheticals!

     

    Maybe Manning redefined game-managing football, but what Rodgers has done and is doing, is also redefining the QB position today.  What he has done these last 16 games and will continue to do, HAS NEVER been done before.  Even just his almost 73% Completions has never been close to be touched my Manning or Brady

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 8:39 AM ET #31

    Brady it's not enough close!
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    Brady it's not enough close!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 8:40 AM ET #32

    Why Manning?  Brady is much better Manning. 

    Between Rodger and Brady, I will pick Brady

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    Why Manning?  Brady is much better Manning. 

    Between Rodger and Brady, I will pick Brady

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 8:44 AM ET #33

    This is a conversation better placed for people outside of Indy and Wisconsin -

    That said, I obviously have to go with Peyton - he covers up for inadaquecies all over the place.  I am sick and tired of the ring argument - fact of the matter is, if the Colts had a better defense and more balanced offense I believe they would have won more rings then 1 to this point with Manning -

    In the playoffs - you are playing top rated teams week in and week out!  The year the Colts won - the D stepped up and played to a much higher level then anyone was used to seeing.  All the other years - Manning had to compensate for their deficiencies.  That is much harder to do week in and out against playoff caliber teams.

    In addition - the Colts twice had the opportunity for perfect seasons, but management felt personal records were more important then the team and sat players after milestones.   

    I realize many of hte Colts are nearer the end of their career - but this year speaks a lot to what I have always thought, that the Colts talent is not as good as everyone says it is - Manning has made everyone around him better.  If these guys had the talent level they have shown in years past - they would not rank in the bottom three in many main statistical categories and would be able to catch lightening in a bottle for at least one game - but without the catalyst, they are showing their true talent in my opinion -

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    This is a conversation better placed for people outside of Indy and Wisconsin -

    That said, I obviously have to go with Peyton - he covers up for inadaquecies all over the place.  I am sick and tired of the ring argument - fact of the matter is, if the Colts had a better defense and more balanced offense I believe they would have won more rings then 1 to this point with Manning -

    In the playoffs - you are playing top rated teams week in and week out!  The year the Colts won - the D stepped up and played to a much higher level then anyone was used to seeing.  All the other years - Manning had to compensate for their deficiencies.  That is much harder to do week in and out against playoff caliber teams.

    In addition - the Colts twice had the opportunity for perfect seasons, but management felt personal records were more important then the team and sat players after milestones.   

    I realize many of hte Colts are nearer the end of their career - but this year speaks a lot to what I have always thought, that the Colts talent is not as good as everyone says it is - Manning has made everyone around him better.  If these guys had the talent level they have shown in years past - they would not rank in the bottom three in many main statistical categories and would be able to catch lightening in a bottle for at least one game - but without the catalyst, they are showing their true talent in my opinion -

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 8:45 AM ET #34

    And hell - I am happy to say I have been able to sit back and watch the like of Manning, Brady, and Rodgers ...

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    And hell - I am happy to say I have been able to sit back and watch the like of Manning, Brady, and Rodgers ...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 9:00 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by yardquags77:

    This is a conversation better placed for people outside of Indy and Wisconsin -

    That said, I obviously have to go with Peyton - he covers up for inadaquecies all over the place.  I am sick and tired of the ring argument - fact of the matter is, if the Colts had a better defense and more balanced offense I believe they would have won more rings then 1 to this point with Manning -

    In the playoffs - you are playing top rated teams week in and week out!  The year the Colts won - the D stepped up and played to a much higher level then anyone was used to seeing.  All the other years - Manning had to compensate for their deficiencies.  That is much harder to do week in and out against playoff caliber teams.

    In addition - the Colts twice had the opportunity for perfect seasons, but management felt personal records were more important then the team and sat players after milestones.   

    I realize many of hte Colts are nearer the end of their career - but this year speaks a lot to what I have always thought, that the Colts talent is not as good as everyone says it is - Manning has made everyone around him better.  If these guys had the talent level they have shown in years past - they would not rank in the bottom three in many main statistical categories and would be able to catch lightening in a bottle for at least one game - but without the catalyst, they are showing their true talent in my opinion -

     

     

    Yeah, playoffs are a whole new animal.  I guess that is why Rodgers is struggling so much

    1st start in the playoffs, his team lost on the road 51-45 but he was 28-42 422 yds and 4 td 1 int....In HIS FIRST START

    Next season, in just his 3rd year as a starter, he beat the #3 seed on the road, #1 seed on the road, #2 seed on the road, then #2 Steelers on the road  He had 69% comp and 9 tds 2 ints

    I can see why Manning is only 9-19 in the playoffswith probably half those games at home

    Rodgers is 4-1 68% with 13 tds 3 Ints....ALL ON THE ROAD

    Stop making excuses....find me a qb with numbers like that on the road in his first 5 playoff games

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    Quote Originally Posted by yardquags77:

    This is a conversation better placed for people outside of Indy and Wisconsin -

    That said, I obviously have to go with Peyton - he covers up for inadaquecies all over the place.  I am sick and tired of the ring argument - fact of the matter is, if the Colts had a better defense and more balanced offense I believe they would have won more rings then 1 to this point with Manning -

    In the playoffs - you are playing top rated teams week in and week out!  The year the Colts won - the D stepped up and played to a much higher level then anyone was used to seeing.  All the other years - Manning had to compensate for their deficiencies.  That is much harder to do week in and out against playoff caliber teams.

    In addition - the Colts twice had the opportunity for perfect seasons, but management felt personal records were more important then the team and sat players after milestones.   

    I realize many of hte Colts are nearer the end of their career - but this year speaks a lot to what I have always thought, that the Colts talent is not as good as everyone says it is - Manning has made everyone around him better.  If these guys had the talent level they have shown in years past - they would not rank in the bottom three in many main statistical categories and would be able to catch lightening in a bottle for at least one game - but without the catalyst, they are showing their true talent in my opinion -

     

     

    Yeah, playoffs are a whole new animal.  I guess that is why Rodgers is struggling so much

    1st start in the playoffs, his team lost on the road 51-45 but he was 28-42 422 yds and 4 td 1 int....In HIS FIRST START

    Next season, in just his 3rd year as a starter, he beat the #3 seed on the road, #1 seed on the road, #2 seed on the road, then #2 Steelers on the road  He had 69% comp and 9 tds 2 ints

    I can see why Manning is only 9-19 in the playoffswith probably half those games at home

    Rodgers is 4-1 68% with 13 tds 3 Ints....ALL ON THE ROAD

    Stop making excuses....find me a qb with numbers like that on the road in his first 5 playoff games

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 9:27 AM ET #36

    Manning.

    Peyton Manning is like a surgeon on offense. A good one.
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    Manning.

    Peyton Manning is like a surgeon on offense. A good one.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 9:31 AM ET #37

    id say ROdgers Manning.... theyre one.. first name Rodger, surename Manning.. Rodgers Manning
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    id say ROdgers Manning.... theyre one.. first name Rodger, surename Manning.. Rodgers Manning
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 10:30 AM ET #38

    If Rodgers doesnt get hurt[and thats a big if ] I think they have a chance to be a dynasty . Better then the Patriots.

    Losing there two studs on defense,while I realize they could not afford them both should have kept one. Collins is hurt now but he was there leading tackler.Other guy was even better.

    After they win there 2nd Super Bowl they really need to right the ship on D and although General Manager isnt big on free agency [and I agree you build through the draft], need to go out and get somebody to shore up this 30th rank defense.

    There defense is very opportunistic  and thats great
    .Love Woodson,Williams, Matthews and Hawk.Shields having an off year though.
    League is somewhat down as a whole this year and thats obviously  to the Packers advantage.

     But a dynasty nonetheless if they can right there Defensive side next year 

    Withholding comment  on the Peyton-Rodgers thing.
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    If Rodgers doesnt get hurt[and thats a big if ] I think they have a chance to be a dynasty . Better then the Patriots.

    Losing there two studs on defense,while I realize they could not afford them both should have kept one. Collins is hurt now but he was there leading tackler.Other guy was even better.

    After they win there 2nd Super Bowl they really need to right the ship on D and although General Manager isnt big on free agency [and I agree you build through the draft], need to go out and get somebody to shore up this 30th rank defense.

    There defense is very opportunistic  and thats great
    .Love Woodson,Williams, Matthews and Hawk.Shields having an off year though.
    League is somewhat down as a whole this year and thats obviously  to the Packers advantage.

     But a dynasty nonetheless if they can right there Defensive side next year 

    Withholding comment  on the Peyton-Rodgers thing.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 10:52 AM ET #39

    Peyton Manning.

    Rodgers is amazing but you don't even need an offensive coordinator with Manning.  Look at the Colts today, same team as last year minus Manning and I don't think they are even an NFL team....

    As somebody has mentioned, it is supposed to be Rodgers vs. Favre... The amazing Rodgers vs. the most over rated QB of all time...

    Easily Aaron Rodgers.
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    Peyton Manning.

    Rodgers is amazing but you don't even need an offensive coordinator with Manning.  Look at the Colts today, same team as last year minus Manning and I don't think they are even an NFL team....

    As somebody has mentioned, it is supposed to be Rodgers vs. Favre... The amazing Rodgers vs. the most over rated QB of all time...

    Easily Aaron Rodgers.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2011 - 7:46 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    i mean honestly... i love Rodgers, he's gonna be great... but at this point in his career, he is really not even a fragment of what Manning was in his prime... the guy completely redefined what it means to be a game-managing QB...

    if you don't immediately understand this fact, you're just another fan shooting off a fan opinion... please just stop with these ridiculous hypotheticals!

    Rodgers won 3 road games in the playoffs last season:

    Philadelphia (div winner)
    Atlanta #1 Seed
    Chicago #2 Seed.

    Pittsburgh SB.

    Please tell me when Peyton Manning did anything like that in the playoffs. Peyton is a .500 qb in the playoffs. He got bitch slapped mostly by the Patriots for years and once shutout by the Jets about 41-0 if memory serves me correctly. His stiff superbowl competition was Rex Grossman and the Bears.

    According to you Rodgers "isn't even a fragment" of Manning. Who's the fool shooting his mouth off?

    It's not a hypothetical, I asked for opinions of who'd you rather have in his prime? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    i mean honestly... i love Rodgers, he's gonna be great... but at this point in his career, he is really not even a fragment of what Manning was in his prime... the guy completely redefined what it means to be a game-managing QB...

    if you don't immediately understand this fact, you're just another fan shooting off a fan opinion... please just stop with these ridiculous hypotheticals!

    Rodgers won 3 road games in the playoffs last season:

    Philadelphia (div winner)
    Atlanta #1 Seed
    Chicago #2 Seed.

    Pittsburgh SB.

    Please tell me when Peyton Manning did anything like that in the playoffs. Peyton is a .500 qb in the playoffs. He got bitch slapped mostly by the Patriots for years and once shutout by the Jets about 41-0 if memory serves me correctly. His stiff superbowl competition was Rex Grossman and the Bears.

    According to you Rodgers "isn't even a fragment" of Manning. Who's the fool shooting his mouth off?

    It's not a hypothetical, I asked for opinions of who'd you rather have in his prime? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


    Rodgers won 3 road games in the playoffs last season:

    Philadelphia (div winner)
    Atlanta #1 Seed
    Chicago #2 Seed.

    Pittsburgh SB.

    Please tell me when Peyton Manning did anything like that in the playoffs. Peyton is a .500 qb in the playoffs. He got bitch slapped mostly by the Patriots for years and once shutout by the Jets about 41-0 if memory serves me correctly. His stiff superbowl competition was Rex Grossman and the Bears.

    According to you Rodgers "isn't even a fragment" of Manning. Who's the fool shooting his mouth off?

    It's not a hypothetical, I asked for opinions of who'd you rather have in his prime? 

     

    .500 QB in the playoffs, he is 9-19

    With I am guessing atleast 10 home games.....

    Rodgers is 4-1 with 5 ROAD games

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:


    Rodgers won 3 road games in the playoffs last season:

    Philadelphia (div winner)
    Atlanta #1 Seed
    Chicago #2 Seed.

    Pittsburgh SB.

    Please tell me when Peyton Manning did anything like that in the playoffs. Peyton is a .500 qb in the playoffs. He got bitch slapped mostly by the Patriots for years and once shutout by the Jets about 41-0 if memory serves me correctly. His stiff superbowl competition was Rex Grossman and the Bears.

    According to you Rodgers "isn't even a fragment" of Manning. Who's the fool shooting his mouth off?

    It's not a hypothetical, I asked for opinions of who'd you rather have in his prime? 

     

    .500 QB in the playoffs, he is 9-19

    With I am guessing atleast 10 home games.....

    Rodgers is 4-1 with 5 ROAD games

     
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    This conversation was who's a better QB, not who is on a better team, LetsGoPack, i see alot of ur comments not real, I rather have jennings and finley then wayne and clark, manning made clark, wayne this yr have not done jack!!!! Talent on GB is way higher then any year Colts have, Yes GB D's is rank low, because WHY???? cuz they up Madden scores every game, wat u expect other team to do, PLAY conventional football run run play action pass while down 21 pts?????????????? lol, no doubt Rogers is a better than good QB but to compare him to manning is not even close. While rogers and chance those long bombs, manning had to worry about GOD DAMN i better not let other team get balll back cuz my D suck Big 8=======) .......if we put these QB's on same team thts how we know who;s better, all ur stats, and NON facts are just opinions, lol like mine is also, but for u to jus smash and type out ur reasoning its .

    And tha 2 guys tht said Brady..........give me a break!!!! Brady is good good, but his SB runs were 60-70% D, and nice O game plan week in and week out. Hands down #18 is tha best if we talking about QB only, arm stength, QB IQ, manager of a game, making players around him better.

    NO im not a colts fan, im actuallly a 49ers fan tht been jumping on bang wagons pass 10 yrs lol hahaha.

    YES!!! rogers WAY better than farve............again jus my opinon....




    Now lets all get back to capping!!



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    This conversation was who's a better QB, not who is on a better team, LetsGoPack, i see alot of ur comments not real, I rather have jennings and finley then wayne and clark, manning made clark, wayne this yr have not done jack!!!! Talent on GB is way higher then any year Colts have, Yes GB D's is rank low, because WHY???? cuz they up Madden scores every game, wat u expect other team to do, PLAY conventional football run run play action pass while down 21 pts?????????????? lol, no doubt Rogers is a better than good QB but to compare him to manning is not even close. While rogers and chance those long bombs, manning had to worry about GOD DAMN i better not let other team get balll back cuz my D suck Big 8=======) .......if we put these QB's on same team thts how we know who;s better, all ur stats, and NON facts are just opinions, lol like mine is also, but for u to jus smash and type out ur reasoning its .

    And tha 2 guys tht said Brady..........give me a break!!!! Brady is good good, but his SB runs were 60-70% D, and nice O game plan week in and week out. Hands down #18 is tha best if we talking about QB only, arm stength, QB IQ, manager of a game, making players around him better.

    NO im not a colts fan, im actuallly a 49ers fan tht been jumping on bang wagons pass 10 yrs lol hahaha.

    YES!!! rogers WAY better than farve............again jus my opinon....




    Now lets all get back to capping!!



     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2011 - 11:15 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    peyton, it's not even close.

    Peyton is one of the greatest players(not just QBs) of all time. he was ranked top 10 of all time greats.. How anyone can take rodgers over peyton is ridiculous. yes rodgers is amazing but comparing peytons field of work with rodgers and its not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartbets:

    peyton, it's not even close.

    Peyton is one of the greatest players(not just QBs) of all time. he was ranked top 10 of all time greats.. How anyone can take rodgers over peyton is ridiculous. yes rodgers is amazing but comparing peytons field of work with rodgers and its not even close.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2011 - 11:18 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    Packers "haters" are great.....

    I will take the guy on track to win 2 superbowls in his 1st 4 years starting

    Someone with much better numbers and only going to improve

    You can have Manning and his 9-19 PLAYOFF record

    im not a packers hater at all, im a big fan.. i have a rodgers jersey and was incredibly thankful  to the packers for winning me a ton of money in last years playoffs too...

    BUT, i have to give credit were it is due, manning is one of the alltime greats and rodgers is still young..

    Lets wait at least 10 years before we say rodgers is better than peyton..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    Packers "haters" are great.....

    I will take the guy on track to win 2 superbowls in his 1st 4 years starting

    Someone with much better numbers and only going to improve

    You can have Manning and his 9-19 PLAYOFF record

    im not a packers hater at all, im a big fan.. i have a rodgers jersey and was incredibly thankful  to the packers for winning me a ton of money in last years playoffs too...

    BUT, i have to give credit were it is due, manning is one of the alltime greats and rodgers is still young..

    Lets wait at least 10 years before we say rodgers is better than peyton..

     
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    And i agree with people that say you cant compare ring totals...

     

    You CANNOT use ring totals as the main measuring stick because if we were, he would be ahead of peyton and rodgers.. BEN has 2 Superbowl rings and lost 1 superbowl...  He won 1 i think in his rookie year too so could we of said after his 1st rookie year he was better than a lot of hall of famers??   Lets be realistic guys...

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    And i agree with people that say you cant compare ring totals...

     

    You CANNOT use ring totals as the main measuring stick because if we were, he would be ahead of peyton and rodgers.. BEN has 2 Superbowl rings and lost 1 superbowl...  He won 1 i think in his rookie year too so could we of said after his 1st rookie year he was better than a lot of hall of famers??   Lets be realistic guys...

     
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    Tough question to answer because both are hall of famers. That depends which team he plays for? Put Peyton on this years GB team i would take Peyton in his prime i guess? Rodgers is the best QB in the league right now though no doubt about that. Both are legends in my book. I went back and fourth on this one. You can't go wrong with either one.
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    Tough question to answer because both are hall of famers. That depends which team he plays for? Put Peyton on this years GB team i would take Peyton in his prime i guess? Rodgers is the best QB in the league right now though no doubt about that. Both are legends in my book. I went back and fourth on this one. You can't go wrong with either one.
     
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    I've asked about 10 of my friends this question verbally since I thought of it Thursday night. Everyone said Rodgers. Maybe because he's in your short term conscious and Peyton's out of sight out of mind? Personally, I'm surprised at the extreme Peyton supporters, i.e. "not even close", "not even a fragment", etc. I also believe Peyton Manning had Edgerrin James who was better than anyone Rodgers has had to date. Rodgers doesn't have a Marvin Harrrison either.

    I remember Peyton Mannings failures in the playoffs quite well (mostly because I bet him on a lot of them). Postseason record is 7-8. Pretty average and way below the greats of the game.
    I wonder if Rodgers does go undefeated and wins the Super Bowl if he would at least be "close" to how great Peyton was in the eyes of the Peyton lovers?
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    I've asked about 10 of my friends this question verbally since I thought of it Thursday night. Everyone said Rodgers. Maybe because he's in your short term conscious and Peyton's out of sight out of mind? Personally, I'm surprised at the extreme Peyton supporters, i.e. "not even close", "not even a fragment", etc. I also believe Peyton Manning had Edgerrin James who was better than anyone Rodgers has had to date. Rodgers doesn't have a Marvin Harrrison either.

    I remember Peyton Mannings failures in the playoffs quite well (mostly because I bet him on a lot of them). Postseason record is 7-8. Pretty average and way below the greats of the game.
    I wonder if Rodgers does go undefeated and wins the Super Bowl if he would at least be "close" to how great Peyton was in the eyes of the Peyton lovers?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    I've asked about 10 of my friends this question verbally since I thought of it Thursday night. Everyone said Rodgers. Maybe because he's in your short term conscious and Peyton's out of sight out of mind? Personally, I'm surprised at the extreme Peyton supporters, i.e. "not even close", "not even a fragment", etc. I also believe Peyton Manning had Edgerrin James who was better than anyone Rodgers has had to date. Rodgers doesn't have a Marvin Harrrison either.

    I remember Peyton Mannings failures in the playoffs quite well (mostly because I bet him on a lot of them). Postseason record is 7-8. Pretty average and way below the greats of the game.
    I wonder if Rodgers does go undefeated and wins the Super Bowl if he would at least be "close" to how great Peyton was in the eyes of the Peyton lovers?

    peyton makes guys look SOOOO much better than they actually are..   And just look at how great the colts are this year w/o manning, a lot of those guys were probowlers with manning there and now they look like scrubs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    I've asked about 10 of my friends this question verbally since I thought of it Thursday night. Everyone said Rodgers. Maybe because he's in your short term conscious and Peyton's out of sight out of mind? Personally, I'm surprised at the extreme Peyton supporters, i.e. "not even close", "not even a fragment", etc. I also believe Peyton Manning had Edgerrin James who was better than anyone Rodgers has had to date. Rodgers doesn't have a Marvin Harrrison either.

    I remember Peyton Mannings failures in the playoffs quite well (mostly because I bet him on a lot of them). Postseason record is 7-8. Pretty average and way below the greats of the game.
    I wonder if Rodgers does go undefeated and wins the Super Bowl if he would at least be "close" to how great Peyton was in the eyes of the Peyton lovers?

    peyton makes guys look SOOOO much better than they actually are..   And just look at how great the colts are this year w/o manning, a lot of those guys were probowlers with manning there and now they look like scrubs..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

     

     

    Yeah, playoffs are a whole new animal.  I guess that is why Rodgers is struggling so much

    1st start in the playoffs, his team lost on the road 51-45 but he was 28-42 422 yds and 4 td 1 int....In HIS FIRST START

    Next season, in just his 3rd year as a starter, he beat the #3 seed on the road, #1 seed on the road, #2 seed on the road, then #2 Steelers on the road  He had 69% comp and 9 tds 2 ints

    I can see why Manning is only 9-19 in the playoffswith probably half those games at home

    Rodgers is 4-1 68% with 13 tds 3 Ints....ALL ON THE ROAD

    Stop making excuses....find me a qb with numbers like that on the road in his first 5 playoff games

    9-19?  LOL    Im a rodgers fan more than i am a manning fan but come on man. Manning is 9-10 in the playoffs, not 9-19 like u say..  and like i said if we are comparing playoffs then Big Ben would of crushed both guys because u compare rings and ben has 2 and those two other guys have 1 each... Ben won a superbowl in his 2nd year, and has 3 superbowl appearances and won 2 rings. And he is 10-3 in the playoffs, not 100% sure though. And his overall W-L record in the reg season has to be much better than rodgers too so you cant always go by W-L records, or rings, and so on.  Of course it does help but its not the be all end all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

     

     

    Yeah, playoffs are a whole new animal.  I guess that is why Rodgers is struggling so much

    1st start in the playoffs, his team lost on the road 51-45 but he was 28-42 422 yds and 4 td 1 int....In HIS FIRST START

    Next season, in just his 3rd year as a starter, he beat the #3 seed on the road, #1 seed on the road, #2 seed on the road, then #2 Steelers on the road  He had 69% comp and 9 tds 2 ints

    I can see why Manning is only 9-19 in the playoffswith probably half those games at home

    Rodgers is 4-1 68% with 13 tds 3 Ints....ALL ON THE ROAD

    Stop making excuses....find me a qb with numbers like that on the road in his first 5 playoff games

    9-19?  LOL    Im a rodgers fan more than i am a manning fan but come on man. Manning is 9-10 in the playoffs, not 9-19 like u say..  and like i said if we are comparing playoffs then Big Ben would of crushed both guys because u compare rings and ben has 2 and those two other guys have 1 each... Ben won a superbowl in his 2nd year, and has 3 superbowl appearances and won 2 rings. And he is 10-3 in the playoffs, not 100% sure though. And his overall W-L record in the reg season has to be much better than rodgers too so you cant always go by W-L records, or rings, and so on.  Of course it does help but its not the be all end all.

     
     
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    Yeah...I clicked the button wrong....He is 9-10, but take away his 4-0 year they won the Superbowl he is only 5-10 in the playoffs...

    For as great as he is, should be much better than that

    Either way, 9-10 is BAD for a "great" qb

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    Yeah...I clicked the button wrong....He is 9-10, but take away his 4-0 year they won the Superbowl he is only 5-10 in the playoffs...

    For as great as he is, should be much better than that

    Either way, 9-10 is BAD for a "great" qb

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