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    vanzack
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 7:43 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    How do you feel about the total 47.5 in the Jax/Chargers game?

    Lean under.  Explained above.  Jags matchup issues on offense, and LAC short passing game keeps clock running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    How do you feel about the total 47.5 in the Jax/Chargers game?

    Lean under.  Explained above.  Jags matchup issues on offense, and LAC short passing game keeps clock running.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 7:44 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    The only 2 plays I've made are on Giants and Cowboys. A little bit on the gmen ML won't hurt ya. Good Luck

    Oh, I will have plenty on the ML.

    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    The only 2 plays I've made are on Giants and Cowboys. A little bit on the gmen ML won't hurt ya. Good Luck

    Oh, I will have plenty on the ML.

    GL

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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 7:45 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Hey Van. With you on everything except the Ravens (my hometown team). They just can't score enough imo. Cincinnati is scoring 25-30 pts out of bed. Ravens just can't score. Maybe their defense keeps Cinn down. That's a hard position to sign up for, if you win that, you feel like you played in the game. Dallas played so horribly last week, they are coming out hard vs the trash Bucs. The line says it all. Giants should beat the worst 13-4 team of all time by running it down their throats.

     

    Explained above in post 25, but I actually agree with you.

    For the Ravens to cover - they need to hold the Bengals to <24.  I think they have a decent chance to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Hey Van. With you on everything except the Ravens (my hometown team). They just can't score enough imo. Cincinnati is scoring 25-30 pts out of bed. Ravens just can't score. Maybe their defense keeps Cinn down. That's a hard position to sign up for, if you win that, you feel like you played in the game. Dallas played so horribly last week, they are coming out hard vs the trash Bucs. The line says it all. Giants should beat the worst 13-4 team of all time by running it down their throats.

     

    Explained above in post 25, but I actually agree with you.

    For the Ravens to cover - they need to hold the Bengals to <24.  I think they have a decent chance to do it.

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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 7:46 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfeman3:

    VANZY…GL Brotha.  Nice work on the numbers! “Lowvig” indeed.  Well done.

    Widely available CURRENT numbers.  Lowvig is an American facing book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfeman3:

    VANZY…GL Brotha.  Nice work on the numbers! “Lowvig” indeed.  Well done.

    Widely available CURRENT numbers.  Lowvig is an American facing book.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 7:48 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:

    Would you have taken the Biils at =0.5 or even -10?   I wish I would have

    As a basic principle...  I wish I would have taken ANY team before ANY line move because you have instant options available to you.

    In the case of this one - yes - of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:

    Would you have taken the Biils at =0.5 or even -10?   I wish I would have

    As a basic principle...  I wish I would have taken ANY team before ANY line move because you have instant options available to you.

    In the case of this one - yes - of course.

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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 7:49 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by GreasyFat:

    Van, Whats your thought process on NYG?

    I am running out of time right now... But will get back to this tomorrow....

    Basically - every single stat points to the Giants.  Every single narrative points to them also.  I cannot make a case to bet the Vikings.

    Dont misinterpret that as saying the Vikings CANT win or cover.  I just cant make the case.  Interested to hear if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreasyFat:

    Van, Whats your thought process on NYG?

    I am running out of time right now... But will get back to this tomorrow....

    Basically - every single stat points to the Giants.  Every single narrative points to them also.  I cannot make a case to bet the Vikings.

    Dont misinterpret that as saying the Vikings CANT win or cover.  I just cant make the case.  Interested to hear if you can.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 7:49 PM ET #32

    If the Bucs stop the cowboys run game, Dak will be dak and throw 2 ints. Not sold on the cowboys. How about the under?
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    If the Bucs stop the cowboys run game, Dak will be dak and throw 2 ints. Not sold on the cowboys. How about the under?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 7:54 PM ET #33

    I joined covers around 15 years ago....even after 15 years.. this guy vanzack is one of the few solid one as they come. man....times flys ... and covers used to be so much more active then it is now... alot of great cappers back then.an_crynew_pleased

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    I joined covers around 15 years ago....even after 15 years.. this guy vanzack is one of the few solid one as they come. man....times flys ... and covers used to be so much more active then it is now... alot of great cappers back then.an_crynew_pleased

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 8:06 PM ET #34

    Van, you've been smokin all season, and I hesitate to disagree. But I'm struck by the coaching mismatch between Staley of the Chargers and Pederson of the Jags. Staley made the dumbest coaching move this year last week by playing his starters. And that's saying something because I watched Nathaniel Can't Hackett coach the Broncos this year. OTOH Pederson has coached up Lawrence into playing like the top draft choice that he was. I think coaching really matters in the playoffs.

     

     

     

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    Van, you've been smokin all season, and I hesitate to disagree. But I'm struck by the coaching mismatch between Staley of the Chargers and Pederson of the Jags. Staley made the dumbest coaching move this year last week by playing his starters. And that's saying something because I watched Nathaniel Can't Hackett coach the Broncos this year. OTOH Pederson has coached up Lawrence into playing like the top draft choice that he was. I think coaching really matters in the playoffs.

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 8:12 PM ET #35

    cloverBest of luck Van, I'm with you on the Saturday plays. Might sit out the rest this weekend, tho I was leaning Minn - thinking the G's are trending down & out...but going to take another look at it peace

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    cloverBest of luck Van, I'm with you on the Saturday plays. Might sit out the rest this weekend, tho I was leaning Minn - thinking the G's are trending down & out...but going to take another look at it peace

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 8:21 PM ET #36

    Cowboys 1-4 on grass. Any concerns with that?

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    Cowboys 1-4 on grass. Any concerns with that?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 8:37 PM ET #37

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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 9:04 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by LionsIn2023: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: NFL Regular Season Final Record:  +49.0 unitsAll lines current at either Bookmaker or Lowvig at time of posting. Giants +3 (4 units) (-109 Lowvig)Cowboys -2.5 (4 units) (-100 Lowvig)49ers -9.5 (3.5 units) (-102 Lowvig)Chargers -2 (2.5 units) (-110 Bookmaker)Ravens +8.5 (2.5 units) (-105 Lowvig)Bills -13.5 LEAN (no bet) Units go up in playoffs.  Happy to discuss any and all! LETS GO! Dude that is mental I liked the same thing lol. Wow I'm starting to see the light finally.... thanks brother Plan your six bets out.  Make sure that if you are 0-5, you still have money to bet on the Cowboys. I have the feeling there are lots of folks here who will be betting their whole bankroll between the first two games on Saturday. Maintain realistic goals.

    copy that lol. def great advice!an_dancecloverclovercloverclover

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by LionsIn2023: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: NFL Regular Season Final Record:  +49.0 unitsAll lines current at either Bookmaker or Lowvig at time of posting. Giants +3 (4 units) (-109 Lowvig)Cowboys -2.5 (4 units) (-100 Lowvig)49ers -9.5 (3.5 units) (-102 Lowvig)Chargers -2 (2.5 units) (-110 Bookmaker)Ravens +8.5 (2.5 units) (-105 Lowvig)Bills -13.5 LEAN (no bet) Units go up in playoffs.  Happy to discuss any and all! LETS GO! Dude that is mental I liked the same thing lol. Wow I'm starting to see the light finally.... thanks brother Plan your six bets out.  Make sure that if you are 0-5, you still have money to bet on the Cowboys. I have the feeling there are lots of folks here who will be betting their whole bankroll between the first two games on Saturday. Maintain realistic goals.

    copy that lol. def great advice!an_dancecloverclovercloverclover

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 9:08 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by LionsIn2023: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: NFL Regular Season Final Record:  +49.0 unitsAll lines current at either Bookmaker or Lowvig at time of posting. Giants +3 (4 units) (-109 Lowvig)Cowboys -2.5 (4 units) (-100 Lowvig)49ers -9.5 (3.5 units) (-102 Lowvig)Chargers -2 (2.5 units) (-110 Bookmaker)Ravens +8.5 (2.5 units) (-105 Lowvig)Bills -13.5 LEAN (no bet) Units go up in playoffs.  Happy to discuss any and all! LETS GO! Van are your units going up strictly because it's playoffs?  Or is it because your up almost 50 units and at that point no matter what you increase unit size? Looking forward to the answer and hoping you love the playoffs. Have a great night! Units go up because historically my predictions get better later in the season - especially playoffs. It has nothing to do with being up for the regular season.  Only that confidence levels go up.

    thank you so much for letting me knowbigsmile

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by LionsIn2023: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: NFL Regular Season Final Record:  +49.0 unitsAll lines current at either Bookmaker or Lowvig at time of posting. Giants +3 (4 units) (-109 Lowvig)Cowboys -2.5 (4 units) (-100 Lowvig)49ers -9.5 (3.5 units) (-102 Lowvig)Chargers -2 (2.5 units) (-110 Bookmaker)Ravens +8.5 (2.5 units) (-105 Lowvig)Bills -13.5 LEAN (no bet) Units go up in playoffs.  Happy to discuss any and all! LETS GO! Van are your units going up strictly because it's playoffs?  Or is it because your up almost 50 units and at that point no matter what you increase unit size? Looking forward to the answer and hoping you love the playoffs. Have a great night! Units go up because historically my predictions get better later in the season - especially playoffs. It has nothing to do with being up for the regular season.  Only that confidence levels go up.

    thank you so much for letting me knowbigsmile

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 9:08 PM ET #40

    Cheers to a great weekend an_cheers

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    Cheers to a great weekend an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 9:12 PM ET #41

    Van---you are a truly unique guy. You do all the hard, numbers-crunching work and share with the rest of us. I've loitered around your posts for a long time. Year in and year out you are better than the for-sale touts on Covers. Win or lose the rest of the way, thank you.

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    Van---you are a truly unique guy. You do all the hard, numbers-crunching work and share with the rest of us. I've loitered around your posts for a long time. Year in and year out you are better than the for-sale touts on Covers. Win or lose the rest of the way, thank you.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 10:11 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by GreasyFat: Van, Whats your thought process on NYG? I am running out of time right now... But will get back to this tomorrow.... Basically - every single stat points to the Giants.  Every single narrative points to them also.  I cannot make a case to bet the Vikings. Dont misinterpret that as saying the Vikings CANT win or cover.  I just cant make the case.  Interested to hear if you can.

    Well, so my analysis is kind of simple: I feel like there is overstated confidence in the NYG. This is a team that is 3-6-1 in their last 10 games (granted their final loss to PHI shouldnt count) but still, this is a mediocre team that had a nice run in the beginning and middle of the season. On the other hand MIN is a very good home team with an 8-1 record and a victory margin of ~5.5 in home games this year. The sole loss at home on the year for MIN was when they got taken apart by DAL, 40-3. But from a situations perspective that 40-3 game was not surprising as it was a classic 'let down' after the emotional win in BUF the week before. Coincidentally, the non-cover, straight up victory of MIN over NYG at home in Week 16 was also immediately after the huge comeback game against IND - my point being that MIN had a bit of a letdown game against NYG and still won. I feel like there wont be a let down this week and a focused MIN team that plays excellent at home, led by a mediocre to decent QB in cousins is going be better than a marginal NYG team on the road led by a pedestrian QB in Jones. My analysis is heavily bolstered by my perception that there is a lot of public support on NYG as road dogs and Im just not seeing the justification.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by GreasyFat: Van, Whats your thought process on NYG? I am running out of time right now... But will get back to this tomorrow.... Basically - every single stat points to the Giants.  Every single narrative points to them also.  I cannot make a case to bet the Vikings. Dont misinterpret that as saying the Vikings CANT win or cover.  I just cant make the case.  Interested to hear if you can.

    Well, so my analysis is kind of simple: I feel like there is overstated confidence in the NYG. This is a team that is 3-6-1 in their last 10 games (granted their final loss to PHI shouldnt count) but still, this is a mediocre team that had a nice run in the beginning and middle of the season. On the other hand MIN is a very good home team with an 8-1 record and a victory margin of ~5.5 in home games this year. The sole loss at home on the year for MIN was when they got taken apart by DAL, 40-3. But from a situations perspective that 40-3 game was not surprising as it was a classic 'let down' after the emotional win in BUF the week before. Coincidentally, the non-cover, straight up victory of MIN over NYG at home in Week 16 was also immediately after the huge comeback game against IND - my point being that MIN had a bit of a letdown game against NYG and still won. I feel like there wont be a let down this week and a focused MIN team that plays excellent at home, led by a mediocre to decent QB in cousins is going be better than a marginal NYG team on the road led by a pedestrian QB in Jones. My analysis is heavily bolstered by my perception that there is a lot of public support on NYG as road dogs and Im just not seeing the justification.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 10:28 PM ET #43

    an_cheers

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    an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 11:09 PM ET #44

    Hmm...given VZ's read on the SD/Jax game, I was thinking of throwing some beer money on Herbert over 37.5 attempts.  Should I upgrade to some Vodka?

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    Hmm...given VZ's read on the SD/Jax game, I was thinking of throwing some beer money on Herbert over 37.5 attempts.  Should I upgrade to some Vodka?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 11:26 PM ET #45

    Ravens have internal turmoil right now. I wouldn’t take the points. Otherwise card looks great.

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    Ravens have internal turmoil right now. I wouldn’t take the points. Otherwise card looks great.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 11:48 PM ET #46

    @vanzack
    Specifically - Jax passing has been carrying them - and they have struggled to run.  The Chargers weakness is their run defense

    Van, not disagreeing at all, but I see the Bolts weakness is their Run Offense on the road.  Because of this it will be very reasonable to predict Jax to stuff the Bolts run and make them completely one dimensional. Glad to see you on Big Blue

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    @vanzack
    Specifically - Jax passing has been carrying them - and they have struggled to run.  The Chargers weakness is their run defense

    Van, not disagreeing at all, but I see the Bolts weakness is their Run Offense on the road.  Because of this it will be very reasonable to predict Jax to stuff the Bolts run and make them completely one dimensional. Glad to see you on Big Blue

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by beavers82:

    Hmm...given VZ's read on the SD/Jax game, I was thinking of throwing some beer money on Herbert over 37.5 attempts.  Should I upgrade to some Vodka?

    Haha yes 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by beavers82:

    Hmm...given VZ's read on the SD/Jax game, I was thinking of throwing some beer money on Herbert over 37.5 attempts.  Should I upgrade to some Vodka?

    Haha yes 100%

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2023 - 1:47 AM ET #48

    Jean Claude Van Zack an_cheers

     

    Nuthin but a g thang baby
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    Jean Claude Van Zack an_cheers

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2023 - 2:57 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    NFL Regular Season Final Record:  +49.0 unitsAll lines current at either Bookmaker or Lowvig at time of posting. Giants +3 (4 units) (-109 Lowvig)Cowboys -2.5 (4 units) (-100 Lowvig)49ers -9.5 (3.5 units) (-102 Lowvig)Chargers -2 (2.5 units) (-110 Bookmaker)Ravens +8.5 (2.5 units) (-105 Lowvig)Bills -13.5 LEAN (no bet) Units go up in playoffs.  Happy to discuss any and all! LETS GO!

    Van, my book gives you -105 on all games up to a $500 bet. Sounds just as good as Lowvig over a season of betting.   

    6K GOLD/$150 SILVER/ Find JESUS! Yes, I'm a sinner!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    NFL Regular Season Final Record:  +49.0 unitsAll lines current at either Bookmaker or Lowvig at time of posting. Giants +3 (4 units) (-109 Lowvig)Cowboys -2.5 (4 units) (-100 Lowvig)49ers -9.5 (3.5 units) (-102 Lowvig)Chargers -2 (2.5 units) (-110 Bookmaker)Ravens +8.5 (2.5 units) (-105 Lowvig)Bills -13.5 LEAN (no bet) Units go up in playoffs.  Happy to discuss any and all! LETS GO!

    Van, my book gives you -105 on all games up to a $500 bet. Sounds just as good as Lowvig over a season of betting.   

     
     
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    Agree with most of your plays Van.  Best of luck.  an_cheers

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    Agree with most of your plays Van.  Best of luck.  an_cheers

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