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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 7:10 PM ET #101

    Thinking about playing a Texans -3, Under 48 teaser.  Thoughts?  
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 7:32 PM ET #102

    it appears that everybody is on the jets despite their reasoning all being the same "too easy to bet texans, vegas wants you to"
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    it appears that everybody is on the jets despite their reasoning all being the same "too easy to bet texans, vegas wants you to"
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 7:44 PM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by DJM5226:

    Thinking about playing a Texans -3, Under 48 teaser.  Thoughts?  

    I have a strange feeling this game gets into the mid 40's.  Could be too good to be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJM5226:

    Thinking about playing a Texans -3, Under 48 teaser.  Thoughts?  

    I have a strange feeling this game gets into the mid 40's.  Could be too good to be true.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 7:45 PM ET #104

    Also, make sure you know your books rules on teasers... win/loss/tie with a push DJM  
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 7:45 PM ET #105

    do you play on playing anything silly? im leaning texans and over
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    do you play on playing anything silly? im leaning texans and over
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 7:46 PM ET #106

    Si1ly,

    Is there a primary site where we can look at your NFL archives like the following one you have for baseball? 

    https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B8gd-be68XCvcThxV0dtXzBENlE/edit?pli=1

    Thanks. 
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    Si1ly,

    Is there a primary site where we can look at your NFL archives like the following one you have for baseball? 

    https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B8gd-be68XCvcThxV0dtXzBENlE/edit?pli=1

    Thanks. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 7:46 PM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by chivashoolio:

    will you have a play?

    Slight lean to the over, but I don't think I'll play it.  Might jump in at halftime if I see something I like.  This is a tough game to read.. hard to know what to expect from the Jets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chivashoolio:

    will you have a play?

    Slight lean to the over, but I don't think I'll play it.  Might jump in at halftime if I see something I like.  This is a tough game to read.. hard to know what to expect from the Jets.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 7:47 PM ET #108

    GL
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 7:51 PM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamebred:

    Si1ly,

    Is there a primary site where we can look at your NFL archives like the following one you have for baseball? 

    https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B8gd-be68XCvcThxV0dtXzBENlE/edit?pli=1

    Thanks. 

    I will create an archive folder for NFL sheets inside the primary link from post #1 of this thread.  Same drill as the baseball forum.  In fact, the link in post #1 will remain constant through the season.  Each week I will move the previous week's sheets into the archive folder and post the upcoming weeks thread in it's own folder.
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    Si1ly,

    Is there a primary site where we can look at your NFL archives like the following one you have for baseball? 

    https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B8gd-be68XCvcThxV0dtXzBENlE/edit?pli=1

    Thanks. 

    I will create an archive folder for NFL sheets inside the primary link from post #1 of this thread.  Same drill as the baseball forum.  In fact, the link in post #1 will remain constant through the season.  Each week I will move the previous week's sheets into the archive folder and post the upcoming weeks thread in it's own folder.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 7:52 PM ET #110

    Quote Originally Posted by si1ly:


    Slight lean to the over, but I don't think I'll play it.  Might jump in at halftime if I see something I like.  This is a tough game to read.. hard to know what to expect from the Jets.


    i think vegas has tricked people into think the texans are a trap judging by this forum...
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    Quote Originally Posted by si1ly:


    Slight lean to the over, but I don't think I'll play it.  Might jump in at halftime if I see something I like.  This is a tough game to read.. hard to know what to expect from the Jets.


    i think vegas has tricked people into think the texans are a trap judging by this forum...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 8:03 PM ET #111

    Quote Originally Posted by chivashoolio:



    i think vegas has tricked people into think the texans are a trap judging by this forum...

    I try avoid reading into things like this.  It can only cloud the true probability of the game.  As far as my numbers show, the Texans should win this game approximately 71% of the time.  Historically, teams with this winning percentage have an average margin of victory of about 9 ppg.  Oddsmakers set a pretty fair line here.. it's not a trap or anything else.  It just is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chivashoolio:



    i think vegas has tricked people into think the texans are a trap judging by this forum...

    I try avoid reading into things like this.  It can only cloud the true probability of the game.  As far as my numbers show, the Texans should win this game approximately 71% of the time.  Historically, teams with this winning percentage have an average margin of victory of about 9 ppg.  Oddsmakers set a pretty fair line here.. it's not a trap or anything else.  It just is what it is.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 8:28 PM ET #112

    see you at halftime silly
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 8:38 PM ET #113

    do you factor in any turn over ratio's or stats??
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 8:39 PM ET #114

    Also would you consider Houston ML at -380?
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 8:45 PM ET #115

    Quote Originally Posted by Show_Stoppa:

    Also would you consider Houston ML at -380?

    Sorry, didn't see this.  Woulda said no.  Fair value on the moneyline for Houston is -285
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    Also would you consider Houston ML at -380?

    Sorry, didn't see this.  Woulda said no.  Fair value on the moneyline for Houston is -285
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 8:48 PM ET #116

    Quote Originally Posted by Show_Stoppa:

    do you factor in any turn over ratio's or stats??

    Turnovers are not factored into the model.  Turnovers in the NFL have very little to do with skill.. footballs are a very weird shape and they tend to do unpredictable things.  I've found that it's best to avoid throwing them into the equation if possible.  Better to keep it simple by looking at offensive/defensive match-ups.
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    do you factor in any turn over ratio's or stats??

    Turnovers are not factored into the model.  Turnovers in the NFL have very little to do with skill.. footballs are a very weird shape and they tend to do unpredictable things.  I've found that it's best to avoid throwing them into the equation if possible.  Better to keep it simple by looking at offensive/defensive match-ups.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 10:10 PM ET #117

    silly surely a play on the texans in the 2nd half? the jets offense is inept and their defense isn't much better...
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    silly surely a play on the texans in the 2nd half? the jets offense is inept and their defense isn't much better...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by chivashoolio:

    silly surely a play on the texans in the 2nd half? the jets offense is inept and their defense isn't much better...

    The Texans should run the ball all second half and play zone.  Take the under.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chivashoolio:

    silly surely a play on the texans in the 2nd half? the jets offense is inept and their defense isn't much better...

    The Texans should run the ball all second half and play zone.  Take the under.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 10:15 PM ET #119

    Quote Originally Posted by si1ly:


    The Texans should run the ball all second half and play zone.  Take the under.

    Although, after just hearing myself say that, a desperate Jets team could make huge mistakes leading to short fields or defensive touchdowns.. the under might not be the best idea after all.
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    The Texans should run the ball all second half and play zone.  Take the under.

    Although, after just hearing myself say that, a desperate Jets team could make huge mistakes leading to short fields or defensive touchdowns.. the under might not be the best idea after all.
     
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    Yes, tough call. Texans ball control vs Jets depsperation.
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 10:17 PM ET #121

    i reckon -3.5 is not bad...jets are lucky to have any points at all, foster looks like he can tear them apart
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    i reckon -3.5 is not bad...jets are lucky to have any points at all, foster looks like he can tear them apart
     
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    Texans are probably the right side in the second half.  The -3 / -3.5 line is a pretty clear indication of this too.  I think Houston is the best second half bet.
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    Texans are probably the right side in the second half.  The -3 / -3.5 line is a pretty clear indication of this too.  I think Houston is the best second half bet.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by chivashoolio:

    i reckon -3.5 is not bad...jets are lucky to have any points at all, foster looks like he can tear them apart

    Yeah, even with that 42 yard run taken away Foster is averaging over 5 ypc.  All indications point to Houston running away with this.
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    i reckon -3.5 is not bad...jets are lucky to have any points at all, foster looks like he can tear them apart

    Yeah, even with that 42 yard run taken away Foster is averaging over 5 ypc.  All indications point to Houston running away with this.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2012 - 10:21 PM ET #124

    have a punt silly i do not believe the jets can stop the pass rush of the texans they triple team watt and brooks reed comes through easy, lucky to get away with that sack strip earlier, wouldnt be surprised to see more.

    texans are prepared for tebow as well
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    have a punt silly i do not believe the jets can stop the pass rush of the texans they triple team watt and brooks reed comes through easy, lucky to get away with that sack strip earlier, wouldnt be surprised to see more.

    texans are prepared for tebow as well
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2012 - 4:31 PM ET #125

    Quote Originally Posted by si1ly:


    I will create an archive folder for NFL sheets inside the primary link from post #1 of this thread.  Same drill as the baseball forum.  In fact, the link in post #1 will remain constant through the season.  Each week I will move the previous week's sheets into the archive folder and post the upcoming weeks thread in it's own folder.


    Gotcha.  Thank you for getting back to me Si1ly.
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    I will create an archive folder for NFL sheets inside the primary link from post #1 of this thread.  Same drill as the baseball forum.  In fact, the link in post #1 will remain constant through the season.  Each week I will move the previous week's sheets into the archive folder and post the upcoming weeks thread in it's own folder.


    Gotcha.  Thank you for getting back to me Si1ly.
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