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    COPY & PASTE THE LINK BELOW:

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    CURRENT POWER RANKINGS

    #01 Baltimore Ravens
    #02 Houston Texans
    #03 San Francisco 49ers
    #04 Atlanta Falcons
    #05 Arizona Cardinals
    #06 Denver Broncos
    #07 Green Bay Packers
    #08 New England Patriots
    #09 Minnesota Vikings
    #10 Philadelphia Eagles
    #11 Chicago Bears
    #11 Seattle Seahawks
    #13 Miami Dolphins
    #14 St. Louis Rams
    #15 New York Giants
    #16 San Diego Chargers
    #16 Washington Redskins
    #18 Cincinnati Bengals
    #19 Detroit Lions
    #20 Dallas Cowboys
    #21 Carolina Panthers
    #22 Jacksonville Jaguars
    #22 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    #24 Cleveland Browns
    #25 Pittsburgh Steelers
    #26 Buffalo Bills
    #27 New York Jets
    #28 Indianapolis Colts
    #29 Tennessee Titans
    #30 Kansas City Chiefs
    #31 New Orleans Saints
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    CURRENT POWER RANKINGS

    #01 Baltimore Ravens
    #02 Houston Texans
    #03 San Francisco 49ers
    #04 Atlanta Falcons
    #05 Arizona Cardinals
    #06 Denver Broncos
    #07 Green Bay Packers
    #08 New England Patriots
    #09 Minnesota Vikings
    #10 Philadelphia Eagles
    #11 Chicago Bears
    #11 Seattle Seahawks
    #13 Miami Dolphins
    #14 St. Louis Rams
    #15 New York Giants
    #16 San Diego Chargers
    #16 Washington Redskins
    #18 Cincinnati Bengals
    #19 Detroit Lions
    #20 Dallas Cowboys
    #21 Carolina Panthers
    #22 Jacksonville Jaguars
    #22 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    #24 Cleveland Browns
    #25 Pittsburgh Steelers
    #26 Buffalo Bills
    #27 New York Jets
    #28 Indianapolis Colts
    #29 Tennessee Titans
    #30 Kansas City Chiefs
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    Most of what you see on the sheets is standard advanced data for NFL teams.  Obviously the fundamentals are there such such as attempts, yards, points, record etc... as well as the important efficiency measures (yards per point - play - rushing attempt - passing attempt).

    What I'm really proud of though is the Relative Performance Index at the top.  The issue that stats guys run into when analyzing the NFL is twofold - 1) the sample size is small and 2) the level of competition is unequal from team to team.  I developed the RPI index to account for this.  Basically 0.0 would be the expected production based on the combined average of that teams competition.

    For example, New England's offense scores 28 points per game, but the four opponents they've played average giving up 31, 27, 33, 28.  (31+27+33+28) / 4 = 29.75.  Thus their offensive points per game rating is -1.75.  They're scoring 1.75 points per game less than what would be expected looking at their competition.  This is important since 28 points might seem like a lot and rank highly in the NFL, but -1.75 is below expectations and probably ranks in the bottom third.

    In this way, the RPI normalizes the playing field so every team can be compared relative to the competition they've played.  It solves everything.
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    Most of what you see on the sheets is standard advanced data for NFL teams.  Obviously the fundamentals are there such such as attempts, yards, points, record etc... as well as the important efficiency measures (yards per point - play - rushing attempt - passing attempt).

    What I'm really proud of though is the Relative Performance Index at the top.  The issue that stats guys run into when analyzing the NFL is twofold - 1) the sample size is small and 2) the level of competition is unequal from team to team.  I developed the RPI index to account for this.  Basically 0.0 would be the expected production based on the combined average of that teams competition.

    For example, New England's offense scores 28 points per game, but the four opponents they've played average giving up 31, 27, 33, 28.  (31+27+33+28) / 4 = 29.75.  Thus their offensive points per game rating is -1.75.  They're scoring 1.75 points per game less than what would be expected looking at their competition.  This is important since 28 points might seem like a lot and rank highly in the NFL, but -1.75 is below expectations and probably ranks in the bottom third.

    In this way, the RPI normalizes the playing field so every team can be compared relative to the competition they've played.  It solves everything.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 10:33 AM ET #5

    Few games I'm leaning on:

    Indy +8
    Denver +7 / ML
    Baltimore -6
    Cleveland +10 (-120)
    Philadelphia +3.5 / ML
    Seattle +3 / ML

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    Few games I'm leaning on:

    Indy +8
    Denver +7 / ML
    Baltimore -6
    Cleveland +10 (-120)
    Philadelphia +3.5 / ML
    Seattle +3 / ML

     
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    People are playing the Rams tonight just because they think it's a 'sharp' play or because Arizona is due to 'come back to earth'.  Neither of these are sound reasons to make a bet.  Handicap the match-up.  How many offensive touchdowns do the Rams have this season?
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    People are playing the Rams tonight just because they think it's a 'sharp' play or because Arizona is due to 'come back to earth'.  Neither of these are sound reasons to make a bet.  Handicap the match-up.  How many offensive touchdowns do the Rams have this season?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by si1ly:

    People are playing the Rams tonight just because they think it's a 'sharp' play or because Arizona is due to 'come back to earth'.  Neither of these are sound reasons to make a bet.  Handicap the match-up.  How many offensive touchdowns do the Rams have this season?


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    People are playing the Rams tonight just because they think it's a 'sharp' play or because Arizona is due to 'come back to earth'.  Neither of these are sound reasons to make a bet.  Handicap the match-up.  How many offensive touchdowns do the Rams have this season?


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    good shit si1ly glad to see you in the football forum now, cant wait for baseball post season as well, who you liking?? i got the  cardinals vs rams in a teaser tonight where i have cardinals +4.5 and O33.5 total
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    good shit si1ly glad to see you in the football forum now, cant wait for baseball post season as well, who you liking?? i got the  cardinals vs rams in a teaser tonight where i have cardinals +4.5 and O33.5 total
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeitRain84:

    good shit si1ly glad to see you in the football forum now, cant wait for baseball post season as well, who you liking?? i got the  cardinals vs rams in a teaser tonight where i have cardinals +4.5 and O33.5 total

    These two offenses are just as capable of finishing at 25 total points as 45... taking the over tonight even in a teaser is not for the faint of heart.
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    good shit si1ly glad to see you in the football forum now, cant wait for baseball post season as well, who you liking?? i got the  cardinals vs rams in a teaser tonight where i have cardinals +4.5 and O33.5 total

    These two offenses are just as capable of finishing at 25 total points as 45... taking the over tonight even in a teaser is not for the faint of heart.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 11:57 AM ET #11

    Silly will u have a play for tonight's game? If not I'm going to lock in cardinals right now
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    Silly will u have a play for tonight's game? If not I'm going to lock in cardinals right now
     
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    Also liking under 39.5.. Thoughts?
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 12:01 PM ET #13

    Whats your opinion on Minnesota beating the Titans SU, I am in a million $ survivor pool, thinking of taking them as my week 5 pick.  I like the 49ers as well, but would like to save them for the future because it is a 2 pick pool come week 10.
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    Whats your opinion on Minnesota beating the Titans SU, I am in a million $ survivor pool, thinking of taking them as my week 5 pick.  I like the 49ers as well, but would like to save them for the future because it is a 2 pick pool come week 10.
     
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    see you later bobby v 

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    Quote Originally Posted by brent0887:

    see you later bobby v 


    I hope never.
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    see you later bobby v 


    I hope never.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakerboy:

    Silly will u have a play for tonight's game? If not I'm going to lock in cardinals right now

    If I make a play it will be on Arizona or the under.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakerboy:

    Silly will u have a play for tonight's game? If not I'm going to lock in cardinals right now

    If I make a play it will be on Arizona or the under.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 12:25 PM ET #17

    I like it, Si1ly!!

    However, I like STL........ and the UNDER.

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    I like it, Si1ly!!

    However, I like STL........ and the UNDER.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 12:35 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by si1ly:


    I hope never.

    local news reported he is gone 
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    I hope never.

    local news reported he is gone 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 12:39 PM ET #19

    For some reason I get the feeling that St. Louis will will tonight
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    For some reason I get the feeling that St. Louis will will tonight
     
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    Nice sheets as always si1ly
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    Nice sheets as always si1ly
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 12:42 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by mlesnet:

    For some reason I get the feeling that St. Louis will will tonight

    St. Louis is becoming a popular underdog pick.. that's a dangerous situation in NFL wagering.  Home dogs have been cash cows for four weeks.. now that the public wants to join in on the fun, it goes the other way.  Seems to happen this way more often than not.
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    For some reason I get the feeling that St. Louis will will tonight

    St. Louis is becoming a popular underdog pick.. that's a dangerous situation in NFL wagering.  Home dogs have been cash cows for four weeks.. now that the public wants to join in on the fun, it goes the other way.  Seems to happen this way more often than not.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 12:44 PM ET #22

    Thinking of a Rams and Braves Parlay
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 12:46 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by si1ly:


    St. Louis is becoming a popular underdog pick.. that's a dangerous situation in NFL wagering.  Home dogs have been cash cows for four weeks.. now that the public wants to join in on the fun, it goes the other way.  Seems to happen this way more often than not.


    Yeah, I agree with you si1ly. I'm debating if I should buy up to 3.5 or just take the ML. How do you feel about the Braves today with Medlin at the mound?
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    St. Louis is becoming a popular underdog pick.. that's a dangerous situation in NFL wagering.  Home dogs have been cash cows for four weeks.. now that the public wants to join in on the fun, it goes the other way.  Seems to happen this way more often than not.


    Yeah, I agree with you si1ly. I'm debating if I should buy up to 3.5 or just take the ML. How do you feel about the Braves today with Medlin at the mound?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 12:48 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by si1ly:


    St. Louis is becoming a popular underdog pick.. that's a dangerous situation in NFL wagering.  Home dogs have been cash cows for four weeks.. now that the public wants to join in on the fun, it goes the other way.  Seems to happen this way more often than not.


    Nice work on the sheets but I believe the home dogs were 1-3 SU & AST last week & the Bengals turned into a road dog or the road favs would have been 4-1 SU & ATS...........
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    St. Louis is becoming a popular underdog pick.. that's a dangerous situation in NFL wagering.  Home dogs have been cash cows for four weeks.. now that the public wants to join in on the fun, it goes the other way.  Seems to happen this way more often than not.


    Nice work on the sheets but I believe the home dogs were 1-3 SU & AST last week & the Bengals turned into a road dog or the road favs would have been 4-1 SU & ATS...........
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2012 - 12:53 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Sleible1:

    Whats your opinion on Minnesota beating the Titans SU, I am in a million $ survivor pool, thinking of taking them as my week 5 pick.  I like the 49ers as well, but would like to save them for the future because it is a 2 pick pool come week 10.

    The Titans have played one of the toughest schedules in football.  Public is way down on them - but they may not be as bad as they look.  Minnesota is a risky pick for this reason.  I do think they win, and my numbers show a sizable advantage at least on paper... but I'm very curious to see how the Titans regress in the coming weeks as their schedule loosens up.
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    Whats your opinion on Minnesota beating the Titans SU, I am in a million $ survivor pool, thinking of taking them as my week 5 pick.  I like the 49ers as well, but would like to save them for the future because it is a 2 pick pool come week 10.

    The Titans have played one of the toughest schedules in football.  Public is way down on them - but they may not be as bad as they look.  Minnesota is a risky pick for this reason.  I do think they win, and my numbers show a sizable advantage at least on paper... but I'm very curious to see how the Titans regress in the coming weeks as their schedule loosens up.
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