But still whether or not newman is in or out, it wouldnt change the point spread and shouldnt scare the bettor. Beating a cover corner is not the only road to riches in this game.
I looked it up. Manning was hit 6 times. Thats pressure i guess, i wouldnt call it overwhelming, hopefully that game is on re-run this week and i can have another look.
With the Washington stat, all im trying to say is last year was somewhat of an aberration due to their injuries on both sides of the ball. Just looking at final statistics from last year is like judging a book by its cover. If you do that, then Steve Smith is not one of the best WRs in the game.
Hey E-Dizz you've been great man, im sure everybody that has read this thread appreciates your efforts
Thanks Slingzz, I appreciate it.
Now only if I can rebound in week 2 I'll appreciate my efforts more...lol
I was able to watch the game again last night (NYG/Dallas) and did some some pressure. This was the D's first game in the new scheme, they should improve as the season progresses and when Newman returns.
As far as them giving up 35, Romo did put them in a bad spot there after that INT late in the 4th Q. They should have ran it, Dallas O-Line was manhandling NYG's beat up dline. I was impressed how Romo responded after the INT and the NYG TD. He was patient in the pocket and hit his 3rd recieving option (Sam Hurd) for a HUGE TD that completely deflated NYG. But enough on this game its already Thursday and I want to get into some ofther matchups.
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Quote Originally Posted by Slingzz:
But still whether or not newman is in or out, it wouldnt change the point spread and shouldnt scare the bettor. Beating a cover corner is not the only road to riches in this game.
I looked it up. Manning was hit 6 times. Thats pressure i guess, i wouldnt call it overwhelming, hopefully that game is on re-run this week and i can have another look.
With the Washington stat, all im trying to say is last year was somewhat of an aberration due to their injuries on both sides of the ball. Just looking at final statistics from last year is like judging a book by its cover. If you do that, then Steve Smith is not one of the best WRs in the game.
Hey E-Dizz you've been great man, im sure everybody that has read this thread appreciates your efforts
Thanks Slingzz, I appreciate it.
Now only if I can rebound in week 2 I'll appreciate my efforts more...lol
I was able to watch the game again last night (NYG/Dallas) and did some some pressure. This was the D's first game in the new scheme, they should improve as the season progresses and when Newman returns.
As far as them giving up 35, Romo did put them in a bad spot there after that INT late in the 4th Q. They should have ran it, Dallas O-Line was manhandling NYG's beat up dline. I was impressed how Romo responded after the INT and the NYG TD. He was patient in the pocket and hit his 3rd recieving option (Sam Hurd) for a HUGE TD that completely deflated NYG. But enough on this game its already Thursday and I want to get into some ofther matchups.
I'm up in the air no the Seattle/Zona game. Initially I liked seattle, and still kind of do. But I am wary of the home dog.
San Francisco +3.5 St.Louis......I dont think the loss of Pace will be as big a deal as everyone is making it. He was out most of last year when Stephan Jackson put up HUGE numbers. I'm not impressed with St. Louis D at all. I also wasnt impressed with San Frans offense, they didnt do jack until the end of the game on some weird ending.
I'm looking at Buffalo +10, I think the line in way to inflated in favor of Pittsburgh. Just because they blew out the pathetic brownstains when they were favored by 6 doesnt mean they should be favored by 10....does it?
I'm also leaning to chicago -12, but thats a ton of chalk. Their defense is still disgustingly good even with the loss of Mike Brown. If Houston can shut down KC's offense, just imagine what Chicago is going to do. I think their offense will also wake up this week in the home opener.
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I'm up in the air no the Seattle/Zona game. Initially I liked seattle, and still kind of do. But I am wary of the home dog.
San Francisco +3.5 St.Louis......I dont think the loss of Pace will be as big a deal as everyone is making it. He was out most of last year when Stephan Jackson put up HUGE numbers. I'm not impressed with St. Louis D at all. I also wasnt impressed with San Frans offense, they didnt do jack until the end of the game on some weird ending.
I'm looking at Buffalo +10, I think the line in way to inflated in favor of Pittsburgh. Just because they blew out the pathetic brownstains when they were favored by 6 doesnt mean they should be favored by 10....does it?
I'm also leaning to chicago -12, but thats a ton of chalk. Their defense is still disgustingly good even with the loss of Mike Brown. If Houston can shut down KC's offense, just imagine what Chicago is going to do. I think their offense will also wake up this week in the home opener.
You know i've just been looking at that Chicago game today too, and im thinking they can cover it. If KC scored 3 in Houston, how much can they possibly score in Chicago. Looking back over the past 2 years (throwing out the Green Bay game in week 17 last year, because they didnt play their starters really), they are only giving up 11 points a game at home. only 4 times in the last 15 did a team actually go over 10, the reason the average is 11 is because those 4 times teams dropped like 30 on them. I think The Bears should be able to bounce back here, if LJ cant do anythin against Houston, he's going to have a long day in Chicago.
This is the perfect team for them to face to bounce back after a superbowl blowout and a week 1 loss.
I also agree the Pitt line seems inflated, Im little afraid though because Travis Henry was able to run wild on Buffalo, so Willie should do the same. As long as Marshawn Lynch doesnt have any rookie jitters and fumble the ball against this hard hitting team, The Bills might be able to stay close. I was disappointed in Buffalo's passing effort against Denver and believe it is much better than they showed. Problem is, without looking at stats last couple years i think the Steelers have consistently blown this team out.
Frisco beat STL once last year and in the 2nd game were leading up until the 4 minute mark of the 4th. If Deshaun and Deangelo are going to run for 180 on you, you dont want to see Frank Gore the following week. The Rams are on their way down, finally. I thought picking up Bennet and McMichael would help, but there's is just too much questions defensively.
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You know i've just been looking at that Chicago game today too, and im thinking they can cover it. If KC scored 3 in Houston, how much can they possibly score in Chicago. Looking back over the past 2 years (throwing out the Green Bay game in week 17 last year, because they didnt play their starters really), they are only giving up 11 points a game at home. only 4 times in the last 15 did a team actually go over 10, the reason the average is 11 is because those 4 times teams dropped like 30 on them. I think The Bears should be able to bounce back here, if LJ cant do anythin against Houston, he's going to have a long day in Chicago.
This is the perfect team for them to face to bounce back after a superbowl blowout and a week 1 loss.
I also agree the Pitt line seems inflated, Im little afraid though because Travis Henry was able to run wild on Buffalo, so Willie should do the same. As long as Marshawn Lynch doesnt have any rookie jitters and fumble the ball against this hard hitting team, The Bills might be able to stay close. I was disappointed in Buffalo's passing effort against Denver and believe it is much better than they showed. Problem is, without looking at stats last couple years i think the Steelers have consistently blown this team out.
Frisco beat STL once last year and in the 2nd game were leading up until the 4 minute mark of the 4th. If Deshaun and Deangelo are going to run for 180 on you, you dont want to see Frank Gore the following week. The Rams are on their way down, finally. I thought picking up Bennet and McMichael would help, but there's is just too much questions defensively.
I agree 100 percent with the Bears covering against Houston at home. My write-up was pretty much all about how if Houston can hold Kansas City to 3 pts. I can just imagine what the Bears can do to this not so good offense. Looks like a blowout to me. good luck
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Slingzz,
I agree 100 percent with the Bears covering against Houston at home. My write-up was pretty much all about how if Houston can hold Kansas City to 3 pts. I can just imagine what the Bears can do to this not so good offense. Looks like a blowout to me. good luck
I think NO -3 and cinci -6.5 are great lines. I like the saints and bengals big.
Love these,also Cincy over i see 50 points,Bears scare me because i see an under in this game sure Last week was Bad rex and this week will be good rex but we should see alot of running in this game,Benson needs the confidence.Ruben Brown is having some shoulder problems and he might be the best run blocker,i could see KC playing real conservative although Tommie Harris looks 100%
I believe Lynch for Buffalo is slightly injured along with Buff`s safety and starting corner!!! Pitt`s defense looked awesome and now their at home!!!
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I think NO -3 and cinci -6.5 are great lines. I like the saints and bengals big.
Love these,also Cincy over i see 50 points,Bears scare me because i see an under in this game sure Last week was Bad rex and this week will be good rex but we should see alot of running in this game,Benson needs the confidence.Ruben Brown is having some shoulder problems and he might be the best run blocker,i could see KC playing real conservative although Tommie Harris looks 100%
I believe Lynch for Buffalo is slightly injured along with Buff`s safety and starting corner!!! Pitt`s defense looked awesome and now their at home!!!
Like i mentioned in my previous post, if you believe that Washington's defense is the same as last year, you will lose alot of money this year. Last year they were not healthy, neither was their offense forcing them to be on the field even more. The year before that, they were ranked #1 in the league in total defense. I dont think they will be #1 this year, but they will be a top 10 defense, and definetly better than Dallas.
You cant say Miami's O-Line is terrible, what are you basing this on.. As a unit they gave up 2 sacks in a game, they are unproven, untested, untied. You can use those kinds of words, you cant call them one of the worst in the NFL.
Like i said, i've never known Dallas to be a team that pressured the QB. Coulda fooled me with the 34 sacks they had last year ranked 20th in the league, basically 2 a game.
The NFL has proven that the coach that used to play with a coach angle doesnt matter. Look at Eric Mangini and Bell Belicheck, Eric's only beaten him once when he should have an inside track against them.
I think Miami getting shredded by Washington as you put it, was a result of conditioning and stamina. In the first half they held Washington to 40 yards and nothing over 5 yards, I think they just got tired in the second half where they gave up the bulk of the yardage.
Yeremiah Bell didnt go out on the last play of the game, he went out during the game, i didnt notice Campbell picking on his replacement. The Dallas secondary is much worse than Miami's and it will be interesting to see if Crayton and Hurd can hold onto balls as im assuming T.O. may draw some double teams.
Also this is an AFC Team vs. an NFC team. Miami went 3-1 vs. the NFC last year.
P.s. I dont think Newman makes that much of a difference and that stat is hard to prove that he has only given up 1 TD in 2 years
i respect your opinion but you are dead wrong on alot of things here.
Miami's offensive line is terrible and that is not even up for debate. the team knows it...the fans know it and anyone who knows football knows this as well. why can't i call them one of the worse in the NFL when the facts merit this. they can't run the ball (certainly not due to the RB position caus Ronnie Brown is a good RB) they can't protect the passer and no matter what you think about washington's defense, they set the record for least amount of sacks in NFL history and they did not add one pressure player or defensive lineman.
You are right that dallas is not known for pressuring the QB but as you said about washington that was last year and this is a new year. Ware is one of the best pass rushers in the NFL. The biggest reason why dallas WILL get pressure on the QB is the addition of Wade Phillips. His teams always are among the leaders in sacks (check it out if you don't believe me, i actually research football) because of his aggresive and inovative schemes.
Saying the dolphins have a bettter secondary then dallas shows how little you know about these teams. the dolphins secondary (especially without Bell) is o ne of the worse in football. do you have any idea who is even in their secondary? your comments are ridiculous and misleading and you should not comment on things you know nothing about because you are very respected on this site and you are misleading your readers. Dallas' secondary with Newman is 10 times better then Miami's and even without newman the cowboys secondary is better.
Saying Newman "will not make that much of a difference" shows you know nothing about Newman. He is a great cover corner (he was a top 10 pick) and is the most underrated player in the NFL IMO. Parcells has been quoted as saying Newman did not give up 1 TD in 2005 and last year he gave up 1 TD against Atlanta. i can prove this if you need proof but i swear on my un born children he has only given up one TD pass in the last 2 years. Saying he makes no difference is idiotic and ignorant on your part. Study the NFL before you throw out stupid statements from now on
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Like i mentioned in my previous post, if you believe that Washington's defense is the same as last year, you will lose alot of money this year. Last year they were not healthy, neither was their offense forcing them to be on the field even more. The year before that, they were ranked #1 in the league in total defense. I dont think they will be #1 this year, but they will be a top 10 defense, and definetly better than Dallas.
You cant say Miami's O-Line is terrible, what are you basing this on.. As a unit they gave up 2 sacks in a game, they are unproven, untested, untied. You can use those kinds of words, you cant call them one of the worst in the NFL.
Like i said, i've never known Dallas to be a team that pressured the QB. Coulda fooled me with the 34 sacks they had last year ranked 20th in the league, basically 2 a game.
The NFL has proven that the coach that used to play with a coach angle doesnt matter. Look at Eric Mangini and Bell Belicheck, Eric's only beaten him once when he should have an inside track against them.
I think Miami getting shredded by Washington as you put it, was a result of conditioning and stamina. In the first half they held Washington to 40 yards and nothing over 5 yards, I think they just got tired in the second half where they gave up the bulk of the yardage.
Yeremiah Bell didnt go out on the last play of the game, he went out during the game, i didnt notice Campbell picking on his replacement. The Dallas secondary is much worse than Miami's and it will be interesting to see if Crayton and Hurd can hold onto balls as im assuming T.O. may draw some double teams.
Also this is an AFC Team vs. an NFC team. Miami went 3-1 vs. the NFC last year.
P.s. I dont think Newman makes that much of a difference and that stat is hard to prove that he has only given up 1 TD in 2 years
i respect your opinion but you are dead wrong on alot of things here.
Miami's offensive line is terrible and that is not even up for debate. the team knows it...the fans know it and anyone who knows football knows this as well. why can't i call them one of the worse in the NFL when the facts merit this. they can't run the ball (certainly not due to the RB position caus Ronnie Brown is a good RB) they can't protect the passer and no matter what you think about washington's defense, they set the record for least amount of sacks in NFL history and they did not add one pressure player or defensive lineman.
You are right that dallas is not known for pressuring the QB but as you said about washington that was last year and this is a new year. Ware is one of the best pass rushers in the NFL. The biggest reason why dallas WILL get pressure on the QB is the addition of Wade Phillips. His teams always are among the leaders in sacks (check it out if you don't believe me, i actually research football) because of his aggresive and inovative schemes.
Saying the dolphins have a bettter secondary then dallas shows how little you know about these teams. the dolphins secondary (especially without Bell) is o ne of the worse in football. do you have any idea who is even in their secondary? your comments are ridiculous and misleading and you should not comment on things you know nothing about because you are very respected on this site and you are misleading your readers. Dallas' secondary with Newman is 10 times better then Miami's and even without newman the cowboys secondary is better.
Saying Newman "will not make that much of a difference" shows you know nothing about Newman. He is a great cover corner (he was a top 10 pick) and is the most underrated player in the NFL IMO. Parcells has been quoted as saying Newman did not give up 1 TD in 2005 and last year he gave up 1 TD against Atlanta. i can prove this if you need proof but i swear on my un born children he has only given up one TD pass in the last 2 years. Saying he makes no difference is idiotic and ignorant on your part. Study the NFL before you throw out stupid statements from now on
Wow...slow down, your an obvious Dallas fan. Why talk with so much bark before the game. Lets just watch the game this Sunday and revist here and go through it since your such the football genious. I always respect everybodys opinion and when people are right and i am wrong i always acknowledge it. If Miami does not cover, i will acknowledge where their mistakes were and admit that i was wrong on my view.
I hope you do the same. If Dallas is to lose, i dont wanna hear Newman was out or whatever poor excuse you can come up with.
I know Dallas is a better team than Miami on a nuetral field. I know Dallas should beat Miami in Miami about 6 times out of 10. Gambling on football and wagering on point spreads is rarely about who is better on paper. How do you explain when a superior team loses ?
All i know is i've seen this situation many times before.
Big Public team, coming off a TV game where they looked amazing goes on the road to a low profile team, who people really know nothing about and loses straight up....Ive made a killing off this the past 4 years.
And you are the one misleading readers saying Miami's O-Line is the worst in the league. Based on what ? They have played one game. They are the most unproven O-Line in the league. The most inexperienced O-Line in the league. What are you basing them being the worst O-Line in the league on ? They played one game where Trent Green was sacked twice and Ronnie didnt put up big numbers. So if Ronnie runs for 120 and Trent doesnt get sacked this week, what are they then. The best O-Line now ?
See me here late sunday bro...we've already moved on from this game
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Wow...slow down, your an obvious Dallas fan. Why talk with so much bark before the game. Lets just watch the game this Sunday and revist here and go through it since your such the football genious. I always respect everybodys opinion and when people are right and i am wrong i always acknowledge it. If Miami does not cover, i will acknowledge where their mistakes were and admit that i was wrong on my view.
I hope you do the same. If Dallas is to lose, i dont wanna hear Newman was out or whatever poor excuse you can come up with.
I know Dallas is a better team than Miami on a nuetral field. I know Dallas should beat Miami in Miami about 6 times out of 10. Gambling on football and wagering on point spreads is rarely about who is better on paper. How do you explain when a superior team loses ?
All i know is i've seen this situation many times before.
Big Public team, coming off a TV game where they looked amazing goes on the road to a low profile team, who people really know nothing about and loses straight up....Ive made a killing off this the past 4 years.
And you are the one misleading readers saying Miami's O-Line is the worst in the league. Based on what ? They have played one game. They are the most unproven O-Line in the league. The most inexperienced O-Line in the league. What are you basing them being the worst O-Line in the league on ? They played one game where Trent Green was sacked twice and Ronnie didnt put up big numbers. So if Ronnie runs for 120 and Trent doesnt get sacked this week, what are they then. The best O-Line now ?
See me here late sunday bro...we've already moved on from this game
On Miami and SD-NE under 46 (favorite play of the day). Looks like I'll only be able to get 2.5 pts with the Cardinals so will probably just take them on the ML. Can't decide if I'm playing SD in the night game.
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On Miami and SD-NE under 46 (favorite play of the day). Looks like I'll only be able to get 2.5 pts with the Cardinals so will probably just take them on the ML. Can't decide if I'm playing SD in the night game.
Slingzz... long time no see. I read half of this thread. I will read the rest tomorrow. I see so many on Oakland & Buffalo on Covers. I like the opposite on both. I do agree with you in regards to Detroit. I hate going against Minny when these play. But Detroit's offense is going to be good this year, just like Indy. Besides, I have Kitna on my fantasy team.
In any case, GL tomorrow.....
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Slingzz... long time no see. I read half of this thread. I will read the rest tomorrow. I see so many on Oakland & Buffalo on Covers. I like the opposite on both. I do agree with you in regards to Detroit. I hate going against Minny when these play. But Detroit's offense is going to be good this year, just like Indy. Besides, I have Kitna on my fantasy team.
Slingzz..... thanks for stopping by. I would love for you to tell me which teasers of mine that you liked. I left that question for you in my thread. Again, I see so many people on Covers that like Minny and the fade. But nobody has told me why.... lol Minny scored two td's last week on defense. Was Atlanta's offense that bad? I like Detroit's offense.
I like your plays except the over Jags game. Not that I don't like it, I just don't know anything about it. If Atlanta can score 10 pts or so, then this could go over. See you around.... GL
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Slingzz..... thanks for stopping by. I would love for you to tell me which teasers of mine that you liked. I left that question for you in my thread. Again, I see so many people on Covers that like Minny and the fade. But nobody has told me why.... lol Minny scored two td's last week on defense. Was Atlanta's offense that bad? I like Detroit's offense.
I like your plays except the over Jags game. Not that I don't like it, I just don't know anything about it. If Atlanta can score 10 pts or so, then this could go over. See you around.... GL
Indy -7. Peyton always destroys this team. i thought it would have been 8 or so, but i guess Vegas likes the road win by the Titans. It was a huge win as Jax rarely loses at home in september, but at the same time, the Jags are having locker room issues with the departure of Leftwich. Peyton has had well over a week to prepare and i think we will see the Titans team that everybody is predicting this year. Garbage. Although they won, Vince Young played pretty poorly. Chris Brown looked like he was reincarnated, but with Indys "improved" run defense i think he will be contained.
Tennesse beat these Colts last year as 7.5 pt dogs and also had Manning an co on the ropes until a late 4th Q score by Reggie WAyne gave the Colts a 1 point win in their other meeting last year....the spread in that game --- 17 points.
Two pretty easy covers just last year by the Titans.
BOL today on your other games
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Aside from Value...
plays that im liking early are
Indy -7. Peyton always destroys this team. i thought it would have been 8 or so, but i guess Vegas likes the road win by the Titans. It was a huge win as Jax rarely loses at home in september, but at the same time, the Jags are having locker room issues with the departure of Leftwich. Peyton has had well over a week to prepare and i think we will see the Titans team that everybody is predicting this year. Garbage. Although they won, Vince Young played pretty poorly. Chris Brown looked like he was reincarnated, but with Indys "improved" run defense i think he will be contained.
Tennesse beat these Colts last year as 7.5 pt dogs and also had Manning an co on the ropes until a late 4th Q score by Reggie WAyne gave the Colts a 1 point win in their other meeting last year....the spread in that game --- 17 points.
Two pretty easy covers just last year by the Titans.
E Dizz likewise, but i appreciate the conversation we had on it, made me open my eyes, and of course i hope were on the same side more often than not this year, its always nice to discuss a game like we did.
I was leaning to the Cards all week. I dont think they're as bad as they looked last week. Matter of fact, they were winning the game on the road late in the 4th. Im expecting Leinart to have a bounce back game. I know Seattle has some good play-makers on defense, but as a collective unit, i dont think they're a good defensive team. Shaun Alexander with the cast is a question mark on how effective he could be. The Cards shut down Gore last week and i think if they contain SA, then they should be okay. I love Hasselbeck, but with Hacket gone, i dont like their receiving core, none of these guys were the starters on opening day last year with Branch and Burleson. Basically when it comes to this division, i think each team will split the games, winning all their home games.
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E Dizz likewise, but i appreciate the conversation we had on it, made me open my eyes, and of course i hope were on the same side more often than not this year, its always nice to discuss a game like we did.
I was leaning to the Cards all week. I dont think they're as bad as they looked last week. Matter of fact, they were winning the game on the road late in the 4th. Im expecting Leinart to have a bounce back game. I know Seattle has some good play-makers on defense, but as a collective unit, i dont think they're a good defensive team. Shaun Alexander with the cast is a question mark on how effective he could be. The Cards shut down Gore last week and i think if they contain SA, then they should be okay. I love Hasselbeck, but with Hacket gone, i dont like their receiving core, none of these guys were the starters on opening day last year with Branch and Burleson. Basically when it comes to this division, i think each team will split the games, winning all their home games.
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