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Not surprising though. NFL nearly impossible to cap. Almost pointless.
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Vegas Cleaned Up
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Quote Originally Posted by bpcuno:
Not surprising though. NFL nearly impossible to cap. Almost pointless.
how did Vegas clean up????? Everyone who wants to argue with me about point spreads???? They say all Vegas wants to do is have money on both sides to break out even???? They tell me Vegas breaks out even every game, that's all they want to do. I agree with you, Vegas made a killing tonight, I'm talking about the morons who watch line movements and claim Vegas only breaks out even. I try to tell them line movements don't mean anything. And they tell me , Vegas wants money on both sides, that's why they move the line. I laugh at them. So according to them, Vegas never makes money, including tonight
Not surprising though. NFL nearly impossible to cap. Almost pointless.
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Quote Originally Posted by TxRangers:
Quote Originally Posted by bpcuno: Not surprising though. NFL nearly impossible to cap. Almost pointless. how did Vegas clean up????? Everyone who wants to argue with me about point spreads???? They say all Vegas wants to do is have money on both sides to break out even???? They tell me Vegas breaks out even every game, that's all they want to do. I agree with you, Vegas made a killing tonight, I'm talking about the morons who watch line movements and claim Vegas only breaks out even. I try to tell them line movements don't mean anything. And they tell me , Vegas wants money on both sides, that's why they move the line. I laugh at them. So according to them, Vegas never makes money, including tonight
Quote Originally Posted by bpcuno: Not surprising though. NFL nearly impossible to cap. Almost pointless. how did Vegas clean up????? Everyone who wants to argue with me about point spreads???? They say all Vegas wants to do is have money on both sides to break out even???? They tell me Vegas breaks out even every game, that's all they want to do. I agree with you, Vegas made a killing tonight, I'm talking about the morons who watch line movements and claim Vegas only breaks out even. I try to tell them line movements don't mean anything. And they tell me , Vegas wants money on both sides, that's why they move the line. I laugh at them. So according to them, Vegas never makes money, including tonight
if you think line movement doesn’t matter you are going to be a losing gambler. I bet 49ers this week at -10.5 as soon as I could. They win by 12 and all the last minute squares that took 49ers lost. Line movement is everything.
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Quote Originally Posted by UnderdogKing:
Vegas want's money evenly distributed on each side. The lines move to try and balance the money distribution if it tilts to one side. With 10cent juice its guaranteed profit for Vegas. Don't overthink it.
Vegas want's money evenly distributed on each side. The lines move to try and balance the money distribution if it tilts to one side. With 10cent juice its guaranteed profit for Vegas. Don't overthink it.
absolutely.
Also notice that almost none of the books would make the move to 14 even though Miami money continues to pour in. They are very precise in how they operate and know just how to attract action on each side while protecting themselves.
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Quote Originally Posted by UnderdogKing:
Vegas want's money evenly distributed on each side. The lines move to try and balance the money distribution if it tilts to one side. With 10cent juice its guaranteed profit for Vegas. Don't overthink it.
Vegas want's money evenly distributed on each side. The lines move to try and balance the money distribution if it tilts to one side. With 10cent juice its guaranteed profit for Vegas. Don't overthink it.
You are vomiting back disinformation. Gee, isn't it fun, perhaps they offer up lines to fake you out or line moves to suck you in? I could go into a long explanation but I won't.
Anyone who promotes any form of censorship is an enemy of human freedom. Free America!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobob89074:
Quote Originally Posted by UnderdogKing: Vegas want's money evenly distributed on each side. The lines move to try and balance the money distribution if it tilts to one side. With 10cent juice its guaranteed profit for Vegas. Don't overthink it. You are vomiting back disinformation. Gee, isn't it fun, perhaps they offer up lines to fake you out or line moves to suck you in? I could go into a long explanation but I won't.
you are correct, that's what Vegas does with the line movements. Because they know morons will start panicking when they see a line moving. The only reason they do it is to confuse people. But people think "line movements", "smart money", means something. No one knows any more about gambling than anyone else does. Some people just have more money to play with than others do. There is no "smart money" in gambling
Quote Originally Posted by UnderdogKing: Vegas want's money evenly distributed on each side. The lines move to try and balance the money distribution if it tilts to one side. With 10cent juice its guaranteed profit for Vegas. Don't overthink it. You are vomiting back disinformation. Gee, isn't it fun, perhaps they offer up lines to fake you out or line moves to suck you in? I could go into a long explanation but I won't.
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Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win:
Quote Originally Posted by TxRangers: Quote Originally Posted by bpcuno: Not surprising though. NFL nearly impossible to cap. Almost pointless. how did Vegas clean up????? Everyone who wants to argue with me about point spreads???? They say all Vegas wants to do is have money on both sides to break out even???? They tell me Vegas breaks out even every game, that's all they want to do. I agree with you, Vegas made a killing tonight, I'm talking about the morons who watch line movements and claim Vegas only breaks out even. I try to tell them line movements don't mean anything. And they tell me , Vegas wants money on both sides, that's why they move the line. I laugh at them. So according to them, Vegas never makes money, including tonight if you think line movement doesn’t matter you are going to be a losing gambler. I bet 49ers this week at -10.5 as soon as I could. They win by 12 and all the last minute squares that took 49ers lost. Line movement is everything.
and I can give you an example where the reversed happened. It goes both ways. Like Dallas 2 weeks ago. My movement doesn't mean anything, you people just think it does. For every story you have where it helps you, I have a story where it doesn't help you. End of story. No pun taken
Quote Originally Posted by TxRangers: Quote Originally Posted by bpcuno: Not surprising though. NFL nearly impossible to cap. Almost pointless. how did Vegas clean up????? Everyone who wants to argue with me about point spreads???? They say all Vegas wants to do is have money on both sides to break out even???? They tell me Vegas breaks out even every game, that's all they want to do. I agree with you, Vegas made a killing tonight, I'm talking about the morons who watch line movements and claim Vegas only breaks out even. I try to tell them line movements don't mean anything. And they tell me , Vegas wants money on both sides, that's why they move the line. I laugh at them. So according to them, Vegas never makes money, including tonight if you think line movement doesn’t matter you are going to be a losing gambler. I bet 49ers this week at -10.5 as soon as I could. They win by 12 and all the last minute squares that took 49ers lost. Line movement is everything.
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You people are hilarious with a "smart money" and line movement theories. Do you even know what smart money is? It's a dude who has more money to bet on than we do! It's all it is. It shouldn't be called "smart money", it should be called "more money". Because they gamble with more money than we do. They lose just as often as we do. They don't know anything more than we do. All they do is BET more money, so that's why it's called smart money. But there's nothing smart about it
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@TxRangers
Assuming you are talking about the thanksgiving game- so the line move didn’t matter in that game. Dallas covered the opening and closing line. If you bet that game early and got Dallas -9.5 or 10 you’re in a way better position before the game kicks off, but you don’t see it that way. Ok no problem.
now we know (I’m assuming you know) that the spread on average is only a factor 12-13% of the time. Now if you go back and look at the games where the spread does matter, and look at games where the opening line wins and closing line loses you would find that there is a small advantage in knowing when to bet and how important it is. That small advantage is huge in the long run. Am I wrong?
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@porkdinner56
Right but I was under the assumption that either way the line wasn’t going down, so I got in as early as I could. If it did go down I would have bet more. Regardless of the quarterback. I don’t believe Geno would have played any better than lock did (maybe worse). So IMO if you were betting the 9ers getting it as early as possible was important.
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They made plenty tonight. A lot of teasers and ML parlays were tied into these games tonight rolling over from the weekend. Balanced books is a myth. They have people coming and betting 300k on a single game. They were definitely rooting for titans outright and they got it. Its no secret now days. They flat out tell you who they need and want to win.
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