If you are a 49ers you do not want to see the seahawks, since it would probably come down to the wire like the first two games.
Seahawks are not going to the SB. Stop it. Both games came down to the wire for different reasons, none of which had much to do with Seattle being a great team.
49ers spanked the packers, split with the seahawks both games close. How is it foolish to think packers would be a more favorable matchup? Packers aren't a great team, they are a good team that has edge in head coach and qb and other intangibles, and they have been sooo lucky this year. Sometimes better to be lucky then good.
Meant to say seahawks are the good team that is lucky.
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Quote Originally Posted by lordbettington:
Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Quote Originally Posted by lordbettington:
If you are a 49ers you do not want to see the seahawks, since it would probably come down to the wire like the first two games.
Seahawks are not going to the SB. Stop it. Both games came down to the wire for different reasons, none of which had much to do with Seattle being a great team.
49ers spanked the packers, split with the seahawks both games close. How is it foolish to think packers would be a more favorable matchup? Packers aren't a great team, they are a good team that has edge in head coach and qb and other intangibles, and they have been sooo lucky this year. Sometimes better to be lucky then good.
Meant to say seahawks are the good team that is lucky.
Adding 4 units ATS -7 at -105. Been thinking about this a lot (after reading what seems like hundreds of articles about this matchup) and believe there is a better than 50% chance Niners cover this seemingly big line. The bets on both teams are evening out with the Vikes approaching close to 50% and yet the vig on the -7 is going up, not down. At some places it is up to -115. I believe this has to do with the injury news on the Vikings side and the overall health of the Niners.
Here is the status for the Vikings secondary:
Vikings placed CB Mackensie Alexander (knee) on injured reserve.
The Vikings
signed rookie DB Nate Meadors in a corresponding roster move. Mike
Hughes (neck, IR) is also done for the season, leaving Xavier Rhodes
(PFF's No. 123 CB), Trae Waynes (No. 69) and S Andrew Sandejo to pick up
the slack. Only nine teams had at least four CBs graded outside of
PFF's top-50 corners this season. The Texans (5) and Vikings (4) are the
only playoff teams to appear on that list.
If the Niners o-line can buy Jimmy G some time, they will eat up this Vikings secondary. And I believe they will because of Shanahan's ability to draw up plays that confuses/freezes the defense for that extra second to get guys open. Unlike the Saints, the 49ers are not a one or two-trick-pony. They have several players who can catch the ball and create havoc in the secondary (Kittle, Sanders, Samuel and even Juszcyk). Shanahan also has the penchant for finding an opponent's weakness and picking on/at it, like an open wound or scab: again and again.
I also fully expect the Niners to shut down the Minni running game and force Cousins to beat them with his arm. As I mentioned in my writeup, the Niners have spent a lot of time during the bye week working on their run defense and even brining their nose tackle out of retirement to shore things up in that area. If they have any aspirations of winning the SB they know they'll likely have to face the Ravens running game, which dominated time of possession in their lone meeting. If they can't stop Cooks--who, btw, for all the accolades being heaped upon him last week only averaged 3.4 yards a carry--they'll never stop the Baltimore running game.
Finally, almost all the "experts" and prognosticators, with a few exceptions, expect this to be a close game and/or an outright win for Minni. But when you read their rationale it is all based on the Vikings performance from last week and numbers and stats from the regular season (as they cherry pick stats and numbers that will support their side), with no mention of why Niners defense has dropped off, or just how important/advantageous this bye week is for the Niners who had the toughest schedule of any team this year.
Good luckwhatever your play
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Adding 4 units ATS -7 at -105. Been thinking about this a lot (after reading what seems like hundreds of articles about this matchup) and believe there is a better than 50% chance Niners cover this seemingly big line. The bets on both teams are evening out with the Vikes approaching close to 50% and yet the vig on the -7 is going up, not down. At some places it is up to -115. I believe this has to do with the injury news on the Vikings side and the overall health of the Niners.
Here is the status for the Vikings secondary:
Vikings placed CB Mackensie Alexander (knee) on injured reserve.
The Vikings
signed rookie DB Nate Meadors in a corresponding roster move. Mike
Hughes (neck, IR) is also done for the season, leaving Xavier Rhodes
(PFF's No. 123 CB), Trae Waynes (No. 69) and S Andrew Sandejo to pick up
the slack. Only nine teams had at least four CBs graded outside of
PFF's top-50 corners this season. The Texans (5) and Vikings (4) are the
only playoff teams to appear on that list.
If the Niners o-line can buy Jimmy G some time, they will eat up this Vikings secondary. And I believe they will because of Shanahan's ability to draw up plays that confuses/freezes the defense for that extra second to get guys open. Unlike the Saints, the 49ers are not a one or two-trick-pony. They have several players who can catch the ball and create havoc in the secondary (Kittle, Sanders, Samuel and even Juszcyk). Shanahan also has the penchant for finding an opponent's weakness and picking on/at it, like an open wound or scab: again and again.
I also fully expect the Niners to shut down the Minni running game and force Cousins to beat them with his arm. As I mentioned in my writeup, the Niners have spent a lot of time during the bye week working on their run defense and even brining their nose tackle out of retirement to shore things up in that area. If they have any aspirations of winning the SB they know they'll likely have to face the Ravens running game, which dominated time of possession in their lone meeting. If they can't stop Cooks--who, btw, for all the accolades being heaped upon him last week only averaged 3.4 yards a carry--they'll never stop the Baltimore running game.
Finally, almost all the "experts" and prognosticators, with a few exceptions, expect this to be a close game and/or an outright win for Minni. But when you read their rationale it is all based on the Vikings performance from last week and numbers and stats from the regular season (as they cherry pick stats and numbers that will support their side), with no mention of why Niners defense has dropped off, or just how important/advantageous this bye week is for the Niners who had the toughest schedule of any team this year.
If the Niners O Line can protect Jimmy G they should be able have an excellent Day of offense with the Vikings injuries in the secondary... Last week the Vikings moved their edge rushers Hunter and Griffen inside many times to attack the Saints weaker part of the Line( like Peat) This bothered the Saints the entire game and helped protect their secondary.. I have the Niners minus 6.5. GL
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If the Niners O Line can protect Jimmy G they should be able have an excellent Day of offense with the Vikings injuries in the secondary... Last week the Vikings moved their edge rushers Hunter and Griffen inside many times to attack the Saints weaker part of the Line( like Peat) This bothered the Saints the entire game and helped protect their secondary.. I have the Niners minus 6.5. GL
I posted this on my thread one thing to ponder to ponder BB since 1990 a starting Quarterback who starts his first game as a no 1 seed is 4-5 only Kurt Warner made the SB.. also 2-7 ATS..
I don't love it when analysts pick winners because they are usually loosers just like when all fox analysts picked the saints but the picks have been evenly distributed... Minnesota loves the underdog card they play it really well .. i think 49ers weakness is Gimmy G he could be a turnover machine.. I'm not too worried about the secondary it's the same that played the Saints
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I posted this on my thread one thing to ponder to ponder BB since 1990 a starting Quarterback who starts his first game as a no 1 seed is 4-5 only Kurt Warner made the SB.. also 2-7 ATS..
I don't love it when analysts pick winners because they are usually loosers just like when all fox analysts picked the saints but the picks have been evenly distributed... Minnesota loves the underdog card they play it really well .. i think 49ers weakness is Gimmy G he could be a turnover machine.. I'm not too worried about the secondary it's the same that played the Saints
No one gives the vikings any credit -- careful with this one
What have you been reading? Vikings are everyones sexy pick for the upset this week. Ever heard of Mike Florio? Or how about the 7 handicappers at cbs? They all have Vikings. Give me a break.
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Quote Originally Posted by stressfreelife:
No one gives the vikings any credit -- careful with this one
What have you been reading? Vikings are everyones sexy pick for the upset this week. Ever heard of Mike Florio? Or how about the 7 handicappers at cbs? They all have Vikings. Give me a break.
No one gives the vikings any credit -- careful with this one
What have you been reading? Vikings are everyones sexy pick for the upset this week. Ever heard of Mike Florio? Or how about the 7 handicappers at cbs? They all have Vikings. Give me a break.
What the hell are you talking about? You have been saying all week that everyone is picking the Vikings. Today I went through all the news sites and top analysts and 95% of people are on the Niners to not only win this game, but to win the NFC.
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Quote Originally Posted by stressfreelife:
No one gives the vikings any credit -- careful with this one
What have you been reading? Vikings are everyones sexy pick for the upset this week. Ever heard of Mike Florio? Or how about the 7 handicappers at cbs? They all have Vikings. Give me a break.
What the hell are you talking about? You have been saying all week that everyone is picking the Vikings. Today I went through all the news sites and top analysts and 95% of people are on the Niners to not only win this game, but to win the NFC.
Adding 4 units ATS -7 at -105. Been thinking about this a lot (after reading what seems like hundreds of articles about this matchup) and believe there is a better than 50% chance Niners cover this seemingly big line. The bets on both teams are evening out with the Vikes approaching close to 50% and yet the vig on the -7 is going up, not down. At some places it is up to -115. I believe this has to do with the injury news on the Vikings side and the overall health of the Niners.Here is the status for the Vikings secondary:Vikings placed CB Mackensie Alexander (knee) on injured reserve. The Vikings signed rookie DB Nate Meadors in a corresponding roster move. Mike Hughes (neck, IR) is also done for the season, leaving Xavier Rhodes (PFF's No. 123 CB), Trae Waynes (No. 69) and S Andrew Sandejo to pick up the slack. Only nine teams had at least four CBs graded outside of PFF's top-50 corners this season. The Texans (5) and Vikings (4) are the only playoff teams to appear on that list.If the Niners o-line can buy Jimmy G some time, they will eat up this Vikings secondary. And I believe they will because of Shanahan's ability to draw up plays that confuses/freezes the defense for that extra second to get guys open. Unlike the Saints, the 49ers are not a one or two-trick-pony. They have several players who can catch the ball and create havoc in the secondary (Kittle, Sanders, Samuel and even Juszcyk). Shanahan also has the penchant for finding an opponent's weakness and picking on/at it, like an open wound or scab: again and again.I also fully expect the Niners to shut down the Minni running game and force Cousins to beat them with his arm. As I mentioned in my writeup, the Niners have spent a lot of time during the bye week working on their run defense and even brining their nose tackle out of retirement to shore things up in that area. If they have any aspirations of winning the SB they know they'll likely have to face the Ravens running game, which dominated time of possession in their lone meeting. If they can't stop Cooks--who, btw, for all the accolades being heaped upon him last week only averaged 3.4 yards a carry--they'll never stop the Baltimore running game. Finally, almost all the "experts" and prognosticators, with a few exceptions, expect this to be a close game and/or an outright win for Minni. But when you read their rationale it is all based on the Vikings performance from last week and numbers and stats from the regular season (as they cherry pick stats and numbers that will support their side), with no mention of why Niners defense has dropped off, or just how important/advantageous this bye week is for the Niners who had the toughest schedule of any team this year. Good luck whatever your play
I think that Niner dude said it as well, but this is confirmed. You seem like a smart guy, but you are definitely the biggest homer ever...
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Adding 4 units ATS -7 at -105. Been thinking about this a lot (after reading what seems like hundreds of articles about this matchup) and believe there is a better than 50% chance Niners cover this seemingly big line. The bets on both teams are evening out with the Vikes approaching close to 50% and yet the vig on the -7 is going up, not down. At some places it is up to -115. I believe this has to do with the injury news on the Vikings side and the overall health of the Niners.Here is the status for the Vikings secondary:Vikings placed CB Mackensie Alexander (knee) on injured reserve. The Vikings signed rookie DB Nate Meadors in a corresponding roster move. Mike Hughes (neck, IR) is also done for the season, leaving Xavier Rhodes (PFF's No. 123 CB), Trae Waynes (No. 69) and S Andrew Sandejo to pick up the slack. Only nine teams had at least four CBs graded outside of PFF's top-50 corners this season. The Texans (5) and Vikings (4) are the only playoff teams to appear on that list.If the Niners o-line can buy Jimmy G some time, they will eat up this Vikings secondary. And I believe they will because of Shanahan's ability to draw up plays that confuses/freezes the defense for that extra second to get guys open. Unlike the Saints, the 49ers are not a one or two-trick-pony. They have several players who can catch the ball and create havoc in the secondary (Kittle, Sanders, Samuel and even Juszcyk). Shanahan also has the penchant for finding an opponent's weakness and picking on/at it, like an open wound or scab: again and again.I also fully expect the Niners to shut down the Minni running game and force Cousins to beat them with his arm. As I mentioned in my writeup, the Niners have spent a lot of time during the bye week working on their run defense and even brining their nose tackle out of retirement to shore things up in that area. If they have any aspirations of winning the SB they know they'll likely have to face the Ravens running game, which dominated time of possession in their lone meeting. If they can't stop Cooks--who, btw, for all the accolades being heaped upon him last week only averaged 3.4 yards a carry--they'll never stop the Baltimore running game. Finally, almost all the "experts" and prognosticators, with a few exceptions, expect this to be a close game and/or an outright win for Minni. But when you read their rationale it is all based on the Vikings performance from last week and numbers and stats from the regular season (as they cherry pick stats and numbers that will support their side), with no mention of why Niners defense has dropped off, or just how important/advantageous this bye week is for the Niners who had the toughest schedule of any team this year. Good luck whatever your play
I think that Niner dude said it as well, but this is confirmed. You seem like a smart guy, but you are definitely the biggest homer ever...
Dude no one gives anyone a freebie.. did you even watch the Vikings game they controlled the whole game and dominated the saints.. Zimmer identified Brees doesn't like inside pressure and he moved Griffin and Hunter inside where saints had weakness.. that is a smart man who knows how to game plan and his players executed. The final call was not what lost the game for Saints.. that was a 50 50 Call .. records don't matter in this game against the 49ers .. 49ers are inexperienced how many playoff games have they won? Saw the whole game on when they played the saints.. saints played soft defense don't expect the Vikings to give you a freebie.. this will be a last min field goal to win..
Personally, I believe the coaching edge is vastly underrated and makes a huge difference.
Who do you feel has the coaching edge, and by how much, between Zimmer and Shanahan?
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Quote Originally Posted by ebaysu:
Dude no one gives anyone a freebie.. did you even watch the Vikings game they controlled the whole game and dominated the saints.. Zimmer identified Brees doesn't like inside pressure and he moved Griffin and Hunter inside where saints had weakness.. that is a smart man who knows how to game plan and his players executed. The final call was not what lost the game for Saints.. that was a 50 50 Call .. records don't matter in this game against the 49ers .. 49ers are inexperienced how many playoff games have they won? Saw the whole game on when they played the saints.. saints played soft defense don't expect the Vikings to give you a freebie.. this will be a last min field goal to win..
Personally, I believe the coaching edge is vastly underrated and makes a huge difference.
Who do you feel has the coaching edge, and by how much, between Zimmer and Shanahan?
Dude no one gives anyone a freebie.. did you even watch the Vikings game they controlled the whole game and dominated the saints.. Zimmer identified Brees doesn't like inside pressure and he moved Griffin and Hunter inside where saints had weakness.. that is a smart man who knows how to game plan and his players executed. The final call was not what lost the game for Saints.. that was a 50 50 Call .. records don't matter in this game against the 49ers .. 49ers are inexperienced how many playoff games have they won? Saw the whole game on when they played the saints.. saints played soft defense don't expect the Vikings to give you a freebie.. this will be a last min field goal to win..
Personally, I believe the coaching edge is vastly underrated and makes a huge difference. Who do you feel has the coaching edge, and by how much, between Zimmer and Shanahan?
offensively it's a wash.. they come from the same tree Kubiak and Kyle.. Defensive edge coach wise its for sure Zim.. he game plans well but it also depends on how teams execute.. saints game is one where everything came along... this yr though Vikings have been not great defensively but have kept them in games when offense has been awful for Minnesota to have a chance both offense and defense have to play great like they did against the saints
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Quote Originally Posted by dimndimn:
Quote Originally Posted by ebaysu:
Dude no one gives anyone a freebie.. did you even watch the Vikings game they controlled the whole game and dominated the saints.. Zimmer identified Brees doesn't like inside pressure and he moved Griffin and Hunter inside where saints had weakness.. that is a smart man who knows how to game plan and his players executed. The final call was not what lost the game for Saints.. that was a 50 50 Call .. records don't matter in this game against the 49ers .. 49ers are inexperienced how many playoff games have they won? Saw the whole game on when they played the saints.. saints played soft defense don't expect the Vikings to give you a freebie.. this will be a last min field goal to win..
Personally, I believe the coaching edge is vastly underrated and makes a huge difference. Who do you feel has the coaching edge, and by how much, between Zimmer and Shanahan?
offensively it's a wash.. they come from the same tree Kubiak and Kyle.. Defensive edge coach wise its for sure Zim.. he game plans well but it also depends on how teams execute.. saints game is one where everything came along... this yr though Vikings have been not great defensively but have kept them in games when offense has been awful for Minnesota to have a chance both offense and defense have to play great like they did against the saints
BegginerBoy- I hate both political Parties with a passion. I worked on K Street after College for a year and learned that both political parties are real the same thing. After reading what you wrote, Is the media and the Democratic Party your Daddy? You sound like an emotional wreck leftist
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BegginerBoy- I hate both political Parties with a passion. I worked on K Street after College for a year and learned that both political parties are real the same thing. After reading what you wrote, Is the media and the Democratic Party your Daddy? You sound like an emotional wreck leftist
BegginerBoy- I hate both political Parties with a passion. I worked on K Street after College for a year and learned that both political parties are real the same thing. After reading what you wrote, Is the media and the Democratic Party your Daddy? You sound like an emotional wreck leftist
Thanks for the kind words. This our society, folks. Everyone is either a wise guy, a dummy or both. If you must know, I'm an emotional wreck because my mother committed suicide and I have a child who is also suicidal. I'm waiting for your next joke with bated breath. What's it gonna be? "With a son and a father like you who wouldn't want to kill themselves?" Or do you have a better one? Please share so we can all bask in your glory.
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Quote Originally Posted by ryan3212:
BegginerBoy- I hate both political Parties with a passion. I worked on K Street after College for a year and learned that both political parties are real the same thing. After reading what you wrote, Is the media and the Democratic Party your Daddy? You sound like an emotional wreck leftist
Thanks for the kind words. This our society, folks. Everyone is either a wise guy, a dummy or both. If you must know, I'm an emotional wreck because my mother committed suicide and I have a child who is also suicidal. I'm waiting for your next joke with bated breath. What's it gonna be? "With a son and a father like you who wouldn't want to kill themselves?" Or do you have a better one? Please share so we can all bask in your glory.
offensively it's a wash.. they come from the same tree Kubiak and Kyle..
This is a bold statement. I wholeheartedly disagree. Kyle Shanahan may be one of the best coaches and more importantly, play-callers, in the league. We'll find out tomorrow
you are forgetting Stefanaski he has several influencers including a Norv Turner
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Quote Originally Posted by dimndimn:
Quote Originally Posted by ebaysu:
offensively it's a wash.. they come from the same tree Kubiak and Kyle..
This is a bold statement. I wholeheartedly disagree. Kyle Shanahan may be one of the best coaches and more importantly, play-callers, in the league. We'll find out tomorrow
you are forgetting Stefanaski he has several influencers including a Norv Turner
Do your thing, BB. Don't even waste your time responding to these trolls. All they want is attention. Been around here for a while and seen some great cappers come and go . Your threads have been on my must read list for years. Don't let these overnight lunch money gamblers get to yoU . You are one of the best around here.
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Do your thing, BB. Don't even waste your time responding to these trolls. All they want is attention. Been around here for a while and seen some great cappers come and go . Your threads have been on my must read list for years. Don't let these overnight lunch money gamblers get to yoU . You are one of the best around here.
It's humorous that begginerboy has crowned San Fran the Super Bowl without seeing Garapollo play one single snap in the playoffs. Yes, I'll agree with him, San Fran has looked great at times......but lets calm down a bit...... The playoffs are a different animal.
This game is coming down to the wire. low scoring 23-20 type game. I'll give San Fran the slight advantage because of home field and rest............on a neutral field and equal rest, this game would be a coin flip.
my prediction. San Fran by 3.
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It's humorous that begginerboy has crowned San Fran the Super Bowl without seeing Garapollo play one single snap in the playoffs. Yes, I'll agree with him, San Fran has looked great at times......but lets calm down a bit...... The playoffs are a different animal.
This game is coming down to the wire. low scoring 23-20 type game. I'll give San Fran the slight advantage because of home field and rest............on a neutral field and equal rest, this game would be a coin flip.
It's humorous that begginerboy has crowned San Fran the Super Bowl without seeing Garapollo play one single snap in the playoffs. Yes, I'll agree with him, San Fran has looked great at times......but lets calm down a bit...... The playoffs are a different animal. This game is coming down to the wire. low scoring 23-20 type game. I'll give San Fran the slight advantage because of home field and rest............on a neutral field and equal rest, this game would be a coin flip. my prediction. San Fran by 3.
lol its scripted. it doesnt matter what you havent seen from Garoppolo. SF defense is the story, so it doesnt matter. Cousins is nothing. he isnt the star.
he hasnt dated any porn stars or been on Bradys team. he's a nobody in entertainment football. nothing surprising will happen. SF is winning no matter what the score
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Quote Originally Posted by tootskie:
It's humorous that begginerboy has crowned San Fran the Super Bowl without seeing Garapollo play one single snap in the playoffs. Yes, I'll agree with him, San Fran has looked great at times......but lets calm down a bit...... The playoffs are a different animal. This game is coming down to the wire. low scoring 23-20 type game. I'll give San Fran the slight advantage because of home field and rest............on a neutral field and equal rest, this game would be a coin flip. my prediction. San Fran by 3.
lol its scripted. it doesnt matter what you havent seen from Garoppolo. SF defense is the story, so it doesnt matter. Cousins is nothing. he isnt the star.
he hasnt dated any porn stars or been on Bradys team. he's a nobody in entertainment football. nothing surprising will happen. SF is winning no matter what the score
lol its scripted. it doesnt matter what you havent seen from Garoppolo. SF defense is the story, so it doesnt matter. Cousins is nothing. he isnt the star.
he hasnt dated any porn stars or been on Bradys team. he's a nobody in entertainment football. nothing surprising will happen. SF is winning no matter what the score
Yeah,that's why they scripted future HOF'er Drew Brees to beat nobody Kirk Cousins...oh wait...
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
lol its scripted. it doesnt matter what you havent seen from Garoppolo. SF defense is the story, so it doesnt matter. Cousins is nothing. he isnt the star.
he hasnt dated any porn stars or been on Bradys team. he's a nobody in entertainment football. nothing surprising will happen. SF is winning no matter what the score
Yeah,that's why they scripted future HOF'er Drew Brees to beat nobody Kirk Cousins...oh wait...
I think the only way the 49ers win is if they get a good lead early on Minnesota.If it's a close game the Vikings will pull it out. Why? because the 49ers let too many teams off the hook, the 49ers have great players on defense, but they get stuck in that zone too much teams make adjustments and just march right underneath that predictable zone for first downs all the way to the end zone. Why are the 49ers afraid to blitz? not sure, but that predictable zone they play backfired against teams that had no business being that close to them on the scoreboard. If the 49ers win I see a 31-20 score. If they lose Minn 26-23.
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I think the only way the 49ers win is if they get a good lead early on Minnesota.If it's a close game the Vikings will pull it out. Why? because the 49ers let too many teams off the hook, the 49ers have great players on defense, but they get stuck in that zone too much teams make adjustments and just march right underneath that predictable zone for first downs all the way to the end zone. Why are the 49ers afraid to blitz? not sure, but that predictable zone they play backfired against teams that had no business being that close to them on the scoreboard. If the 49ers win I see a 31-20 score. If they lose Minn 26-23.
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