man the Jets strong suit is stopping the run and the chargers will kill them through the air.
I am also wondering if the Jets have a chance in this game why the line isnt closer to a TD instead of practilly double digits
Vegas is trying to sucker u into taking a generous line with the jets. I would love to take the +9 but this makes me wonder if im being a square for doing so..
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Quote Originally Posted by Urkedout:
man the Jets strong suit is stopping the run and the chargers will kill them through the air.
I am also wondering if the Jets have a chance in this game why the line isnt closer to a TD instead of practilly double digits
Vegas is trying to sucker u into taking a generous line with the jets. I would love to take the +9 but this makes me wonder if im being a square for doing so..
no comparing teams that had eli manning and ben roth to sanchez, not even in the same planet level as of right now comparing that makes me think u dont know what your talking about they are #1 running the ball because they cant pass and run more then anyone else not saying they dont have a very good run game but if u look at avg yards per run they equal to or below about 5 or 6 teams .. it can be stoped, its not like the titans run game
In reality, this is the best argument "AGAINST" the Jets presented so far, other than, the "TALL" receiver angle reiterated in THREAD.
LOVE, Jets DEFENsE!! , "FOR "case must be respected for COACHING and rushing. GL
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Quote Originally Posted by HURRICAN3:
no comparing teams that had eli manning and ben roth to sanchez, not even in the same planet level as of right now comparing that makes me think u dont know what your talking about they are #1 running the ball because they cant pass and run more then anyone else not saying they dont have a very good run game but if u look at avg yards per run they equal to or below about 5 or 6 teams .. it can be stoped, its not like the titans run game
In reality, this is the best argument "AGAINST" the Jets presented so far, other than, the "TALL" receiver angle reiterated in THREAD.
LOVE, Jets DEFENsE!! , "FOR "case must be respected for COACHING and rushing. GL
if revis can limit the big play from vjack (and being that WR1's are avging under 35 ypc against him this year i think he'll be ok), and kerry rhodes can limit Gates, I think they can limit rivers effectiveness. Their run-game is bottom-feeder NFL as KOAJ mentioned, the only thing I worry about is Sproles countering our blitz on some misdirections/counters leading to a big play w/ his speed. LT has lost a few steps, I dont worry about him.
Rhodes has been on a tear the last couple weeks. A lot of us have been on him all season for half-assing it, but since the blasting he received on twitter after the NE game, he has been on a tear and did a great job blanketing Gonzalez w/ help in zone coverage a couple weeks back, held him to 3 catches i think but that damn late TD was the killer.
Gonzo nowhere near the same class as Gates. Gates, Davis, and Clark in the top tier. Gonzo in the 2nd tier with Witten, etc.
Agree that LT is nothing to be worried about, Id be more concerned with Sproles. Rivers will not miss the open receivers like Palmer. The only question is will he have enough time to throw - will the line and backs be able to pick up the blitz, and will he be able to make the hot reads. Does anyone have stats on Rivers vs the Blitz? Please share.
San Diego cant stop the run/cant run the ball - something ive trashed them for the last 2 years, but you know what? it doesnt seem to matter as they just keep on winning.
Callahan deserves the credit for the Jets running game - he coordinates it.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sharp__Action:
if revis can limit the big play from vjack (and being that WR1's are avging under 35 ypc against him this year i think he'll be ok), and kerry rhodes can limit Gates, I think they can limit rivers effectiveness. Their run-game is bottom-feeder NFL as KOAJ mentioned, the only thing I worry about is Sproles countering our blitz on some misdirections/counters leading to a big play w/ his speed. LT has lost a few steps, I dont worry about him.
Rhodes has been on a tear the last couple weeks. A lot of us have been on him all season for half-assing it, but since the blasting he received on twitter after the NE game, he has been on a tear and did a great job blanketing Gonzalez w/ help in zone coverage a couple weeks back, held him to 3 catches i think but that damn late TD was the killer.
Gonzo nowhere near the same class as Gates. Gates, Davis, and Clark in the top tier. Gonzo in the 2nd tier with Witten, etc.
Agree that LT is nothing to be worried about, Id be more concerned with Sproles. Rivers will not miss the open receivers like Palmer. The only question is will he have enough time to throw - will the line and backs be able to pick up the blitz, and will he be able to make the hot reads. Does anyone have stats on Rivers vs the Blitz? Please share.
San Diego cant stop the run/cant run the ball - something ive trashed them for the last 2 years, but you know what? it doesnt seem to matter as they just keep on winning.
Callahan deserves the credit for the Jets running game - he coordinates it.
THEY WILL BLOW THEM BACK TO REALITY....THis isnt a WR-less TEAM like Cinncy. No Henry. Small Ocho...Who is Coles? and last I check that FL wr Cadwell was a Fumble KING!
Jackson.... NeNe SLot WR FLyod Gates
Problems for 2ndary
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THEY WILL BLOW THEM BACK TO REALITY....THis isnt a WR-less TEAM like Cinncy. No Henry. Small Ocho...Who is Coles? and last I check that FL wr Cadwell was a Fumble KING!
hahahah loving this thread... jet's fans drinking the kool-aid. Line is at -6.5 at my place ... all over the bolts.
Biased and going to the game ... the electric feel and vibe in this town is incredible ... this team is humble ready and focused, veteran core group of players been together many years, many playoff games together. They got off the mat early in the season , 11 straight although that means chit right now, beating the entire NFC East, traveling to TEN and spanking them in their own backyard. ready and battletested. now rested and ready to unleash on Sanchez. Def Coord Ron Rivera auditioning for future head coaching jobs.
Watched every single play, been to every game, hard to beat the Chargers at the Q. This team could have run up the score many a time and puffed up the stats, team before everything else. Philip is mad the MVP wasnt close, he wants his ring, he needs his ring, eli and ben already got theirs.
And we are all bettors..... Rex already printed out every practice to every day leading to the super bowl, even included his victory parade.. NOT UNTIL THE FAT LADY, SEXY REXY
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hahahah loving this thread... jet's fans drinking the kool-aid. Line is at -6.5 at my place ... all over the bolts.
Biased and going to the game ... the electric feel and vibe in this town is incredible ... this team is humble ready and focused, veteran core group of players been together many years, many playoff games together. They got off the mat early in the season , 11 straight although that means chit right now, beating the entire NFC East, traveling to TEN and spanking them in their own backyard. ready and battletested. now rested and ready to unleash on Sanchez. Def Coord Ron Rivera auditioning for future head coaching jobs.
Watched every single play, been to every game, hard to beat the Chargers at the Q. This team could have run up the score many a time and puffed up the stats, team before everything else. Philip is mad the MVP wasnt close, he wants his ring, he needs his ring, eli and ben already got theirs.
And we are all bettors..... Rex already printed out every practice to every day leading to the super bowl, even included his victory parade.. NOT UNTIL THE FAT LADY, SEXY REXY
i get tired of reading about who teams have palyed etc. throughout the year. If you must look at schedules and point out who's is weaker how can you discount the plain and simple fact that of SD's last 8 wins 3 of them are vs teams who made the playoffs. The Jets beat 1 team down the stretch in Cincy in a meaningless week 17 game and went on to beat them again as their only legit win in a long while. That being said it does not matter who played who and who beat who throughout the reg season. It's all about now and who's clickin in all phases of the game coming in to playoffs. We get to these div plyoffs games and it usually matches up the best and the hottest teams down the stretch. The wager I can't wait to make is the winner here vs Indy in afc chmpship provided Indy gets by balt. Indy would be fav by 3 over sd & 8 over the Jets.
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i get tired of reading about who teams have palyed etc. throughout the year. If you must look at schedules and point out who's is weaker how can you discount the plain and simple fact that of SD's last 8 wins 3 of them are vs teams who made the playoffs. The Jets beat 1 team down the stretch in Cincy in a meaningless week 17 game and went on to beat them again as their only legit win in a long while. That being said it does not matter who played who and who beat who throughout the reg season. It's all about now and who's clickin in all phases of the game coming in to playoffs. We get to these div plyoffs games and it usually matches up the best and the hottest teams down the stretch. The wager I can't wait to make is the winner here vs Indy in afc chmpship provided Indy gets by balt. Indy would be fav by 3 over sd & 8 over the Jets.
San Diego -6.5 / 7 is more realistic. 9 points earlier in the week was a mistake.
This time of year ...any bye week is GOLD. San Diego is rested, and at home. The Jets will be facing a much different offense than Cincinatti. San Diego relies on the pass and screens. I doubt that Revis will be on an island with Vincent Jackson all day. He will need help. Jackson is one of the top 4 receivers in the league. I have been a huge Revis fan this year....he is fantastic but tough matchup for him. In addition, the Jets are 31st in the league against the pass! SD offense vs Jets pass defense is the # 1 factor in this game in my opinion. The Jets better get a GREAT pass rush all game.
On the other hand, can Sanchez put 24 to 30 points on the board? San Diego will put points on the board. Can Sanchez come from behind? Recent QBs who have made the Superbowl (Warner, Rothlisberger, Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli needed a few years before SB, McNab). A TALL order for a rookie with a shortened college career and really little NFL playoff experience. The Jets run game and defense will need to score touchdowns NOT field goals, and control the clock all game.
Special Teams -- the JETS kick coverage has been HORRIBLE. Their biggest achilles heel hands down. Darren Sproles should get 20+ yards per kick. San Diego's punter and FG kicker are the best in the league - no question.
I like San Diego to cover the current 6.5 or 7 point line.
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San Diego -6.5 / 7 is more realistic. 9 points earlier in the week was a mistake.
This time of year ...any bye week is GOLD. San Diego is rested, and at home. The Jets will be facing a much different offense than Cincinatti. San Diego relies on the pass and screens. I doubt that Revis will be on an island with Vincent Jackson all day. He will need help. Jackson is one of the top 4 receivers in the league. I have been a huge Revis fan this year....he is fantastic but tough matchup for him. In addition, the Jets are 31st in the league against the pass! SD offense vs Jets pass defense is the # 1 factor in this game in my opinion. The Jets better get a GREAT pass rush all game.
On the other hand, can Sanchez put 24 to 30 points on the board? San Diego will put points on the board. Can Sanchez come from behind? Recent QBs who have made the Superbowl (Warner, Rothlisberger, Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli needed a few years before SB, McNab). A TALL order for a rookie with a shortened college career and really little NFL playoff experience. The Jets run game and defense will need to score touchdowns NOT field goals, and control the clock all game.
Special Teams -- the JETS kick coverage has been HORRIBLE. Their biggest achilles heel hands down. Darren Sproles should get 20+ yards per kick. San Diego's punter and FG kicker are the best in the league - no question.
I like San Diego to cover the current 6.5 or 7 point line.
San Diego -6.5 / 7 is more realistic. 9 points earlier in the week was a mistake.
This time of year ...any bye week is GOLD. San Diego is rested, and at home. The Jets will be facing a much different offense than Cincinatti. San Diego relies on the pass and screens. I doubt that Revis will be on an island with Vincent Jackson all day. He will need help. Jackson is one of the top 4 receivers in the league. I have been a huge Revis fan this year....he is fantastic but tough matchup for him. In addition, the Jets are # 1 in the league against the pass! SD offense vs Jets pass defense is the # 1 factor in this game in my opinion. The Jets better get a GREAT pass rush all game.
On the other hand, can Sanchez put 24 to 30 points on the board? San Diego will put points on the board. Can Sanchez come from behind? Recent QBs who have made the Superbowl (Warner, Rothlisberger, Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli needed a few years before SB, McNab). A TALL order for a rookie with a shortened college career and really little NFL playoff experience. The Jets run game and defense will need to score touchdowns NOT field goals, and control the clock all game.
Special Teams -- the JETS kick coverage has been HORRIBLE. Their biggest achilles heel hands down. Darren Sproles should get 20+ yards per kick. San Diego's punter and FG kicker are the best in the league - no question.
Correction the Jets are # 1 in the league against the pass - MY ERROR. This is huge. If they can control San Diego receivers then, they can control the game.
The JETS are #31 in the league on offense --pass offense.
I WILL PASS ON THIS GAME. Gun to my head - I would take San Diego to win the game.
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Quote Originally Posted by SharpShooter8:
San Diego -6.5 / 7 is more realistic. 9 points earlier in the week was a mistake.
This time of year ...any bye week is GOLD. San Diego is rested, and at home. The Jets will be facing a much different offense than Cincinatti. San Diego relies on the pass and screens. I doubt that Revis will be on an island with Vincent Jackson all day. He will need help. Jackson is one of the top 4 receivers in the league. I have been a huge Revis fan this year....he is fantastic but tough matchup for him. In addition, the Jets are # 1 in the league against the pass! SD offense vs Jets pass defense is the # 1 factor in this game in my opinion. The Jets better get a GREAT pass rush all game.
On the other hand, can Sanchez put 24 to 30 points on the board? San Diego will put points on the board. Can Sanchez come from behind? Recent QBs who have made the Superbowl (Warner, Rothlisberger, Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli needed a few years before SB, McNab). A TALL order for a rookie with a shortened college career and really little NFL playoff experience. The Jets run game and defense will need to score touchdowns NOT field goals, and control the clock all game.
Special Teams -- the JETS kick coverage has been HORRIBLE. Their biggest achilles heel hands down. Darren Sproles should get 20+ yards per kick. San Diego's punter and FG kicker are the best in the league - no question.
Correction the Jets are # 1 in the league against the pass - MY ERROR. This is huge. If they can control San Diego receivers then, they can control the game.
The JETS are #31 in the league on offense --pass offense.
I WILL PASS ON THIS GAME. Gun to my head - I would take San Diego to win the game.
Many said GB had a great pass defense- what happen? NE doesn't turnover the ball- what happen? Dallas can't beat Eagles 3 in a row- what happen? Stats are great but things do change- if they didn't, there wouldn't be any need for stats.
SD run D might not be great but thats because you have to worry about the pass also- does SD really have to worry that much about the pass with the Jets? The Bengals just didn't know how to do man coverage so they got burnt by a QB that was throwing lobs.
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Many said GB had a great pass defense- what happen? NE doesn't turnover the ball- what happen? Dallas can't beat Eagles 3 in a row- what happen? Stats are great but things do change- if they didn't, there wouldn't be any need for stats.
SD run D might not be great but thats because you have to worry about the pass also- does SD really have to worry that much about the pass with the Jets? The Bengals just didn't know how to do man coverage so they got burnt by a QB that was throwing lobs.
-9 is a lot of points to be giving in a playoff game. especially to a team with a great D.
Example: 2000 Ravens
Please do not compare this Defense to the 2000 Ravens. That defense was completely dominant and I'm sorry but the Jets D is not even close. Ced Benson just torched u for 169 yards!!! I love everybody's enthusiasm on trying to dig up reasons why the Jets will win this weekend but lets face it....SD are the better team and will show it on Sunday. It was a nice gift u were given to even make the playoffs and play a weak first round opponent but now its time for the big boys and after Sunday we'll all know who didn't belong.
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Quote Originally Posted by Maydaymalone:
-9 is a lot of points to be giving in a playoff game. especially to a team with a great D.
Example: 2000 Ravens
Please do not compare this Defense to the 2000 Ravens. That defense was completely dominant and I'm sorry but the Jets D is not even close. Ced Benson just torched u for 169 yards!!! I love everybody's enthusiasm on trying to dig up reasons why the Jets will win this weekend but lets face it....SD are the better team and will show it on Sunday. It was a nice gift u were given to even make the playoffs and play a weak first round opponent but now its time for the big boys and after Sunday we'll all know who didn't belong.
no comparing teams that had eli manning and ben roth to sanchez, not even in the same planet level as of right now comparing that makes me think u dont know what your talking about they are #1 running the ball because they cant pass and run more then anyone else not saying they dont have a very good run game but if u look at avg yards per run they equal to or below about 5 or 6 teams .. it can be stoped, its not like the titans run game
SORE GIANTS FAN
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Quote Originally Posted by HURRICAN3:
no comparing teams that had eli manning and ben roth to sanchez, not even in the same planet level as of right now comparing that makes me think u dont know what your talking about they are #1 running the ball because they cant pass and run more then anyone else not saying they dont have a very good run game but if u look at avg yards per run they equal to or below about 5 or 6 teams .. it can be stoped, its not like the titans run game
sharp - its not that i'm a believer etc...objectively SD is a good team, not great.. they gave up an ass load of yards especially on the ground. their QB is a punk, their kicker is a chocker. they had a predictable offense...all through the air.
onto the colts...a much tougher matchup
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sharp - its not that i'm a believer etc...objectively SD is a good team, not great.. they gave up an ass load of yards especially on the ground. their QB is a punk, their kicker is a chocker. they had a predictable offense...all through the air.
I'm a Charger fan. Die hard Charger fan. I run a bar/restaurant/nightclub in San Diego and I can tell you for a fact (because I saw them out with my own eyes) that some of the Bolts players, starters included, were out partying and boozing on Friday night before the game. Fuckin ridiculous. They deserved to lose that game.
With that said, I would also love to see the Jets beat the Colts next week since they were the ones that allowed them to make playoffs in week 15 when they pulled Manning in 2nd quarter. It would be sweet justice. Plus I have to root for Sanchez from southern CA.
Go Jets
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I'm a Charger fan. Die hard Charger fan. I run a bar/restaurant/nightclub in San Diego and I can tell you for a fact (because I saw them out with my own eyes) that some of the Bolts players, starters included, were out partying and boozing on Friday night before the game. Fuckin ridiculous. They deserved to lose that game.
With that said, I would also love to see the Jets beat the Colts next week since they were the ones that allowed them to make playoffs in week 15 when they pulled Manning in 2nd quarter. It would be sweet justice. Plus I have to root for Sanchez from southern CA.
sharp - its not that i'm a believer etc...objectively SD is a good team, not great.. they gave up an ass load of yards especially on the ground. their QB is a punk, their kicker is a chocker. they had a predictable offense...all through the air.
onto the colts...a much tougher matchup
Crybaby rivers actually picked Vjack up and took him to the game!! lmao. Pulled over for a suspended license w/ no tags... moron. (and he has DUI #2 pending btw)
That whole team is starting to become the worst mix... the incarceration rate of the 07 bengals.. with the deuchebaggery of the Cheatriots. Cheap shots left and right, tatooes on every player.. and the shot they give our boy jimmy leonhard really pissed me off.
The colts are the most talented football team remaining, fact. But they also are 1-dimensional, and you know as well as I, that it's the big, physical power RB's that have hurt us this year. Addai is mediocre at best and would be a RB2/RB3 somewhere else.
Strickland healthy and us finally having the flexibility of using the nickel package last week.... will be huge here. Last week we tried using the bracket coverage to roll coverage to where its needed and double pre-snap... whether it be Gates, Floyd, or Vjack. Same will hold true this week with Clark/Wayne... but the Jets can now work out the kinks. And by the kinks, I mean ERIC SMITH in blown coverage (although hes played above his head all season and has a good year)
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Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:
sharp - its not that i'm a believer etc...objectively SD is a good team, not great.. they gave up an ass load of yards especially on the ground. their QB is a punk, their kicker is a chocker. they had a predictable offense...all through the air.
onto the colts...a much tougher matchup
Crybaby rivers actually picked Vjack up and took him to the game!! lmao. Pulled over for a suspended license w/ no tags... moron. (and he has DUI #2 pending btw)
That whole team is starting to become the worst mix... the incarceration rate of the 07 bengals.. with the deuchebaggery of the Cheatriots. Cheap shots left and right, tatooes on every player.. and the shot they give our boy jimmy leonhard really pissed me off.
The colts are the most talented football team remaining, fact. But they also are 1-dimensional, and you know as well as I, that it's the big, physical power RB's that have hurt us this year. Addai is mediocre at best and would be a RB2/RB3 somewhere else.
Strickland healthy and us finally having the flexibility of using the nickel package last week.... will be huge here. Last week we tried using the bracket coverage to roll coverage to where its needed and double pre-snap... whether it be Gates, Floyd, or Vjack. Same will hold true this week with Clark/Wayne... but the Jets can now work out the kinks. And by the kinks, I mean ERIC SMITH in blown coverage (although hes played above his head all season and has a good year)
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