This Superbowl is the hardest yet for me. On one hand I can see the veteran Manning making history as the only QB to win a ring with 2 different teams, but on the other hand, I can see the Seahawks D frustrating Manning all day & the young buck hoisting the trophy! I'm so CONFUSED!!!!
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This Superbowl is the hardest yet for me. On one hand I can see the veteran Manning making history as the only QB to win a ring with 2 different teams, but on the other hand, I can see the Seahawks D frustrating Manning all day & the young buck hoisting the trophy! I'm so CONFUSED!!!!
one thing is obvious for me so far - the broncos are not supposed to cover. also, i am not sure the nfl really wants manning winning it with two different teams. but that is possible. actually i am talking nonsense - everything is possible. i only don't see vegas losing here - so the time plays in our favor as the line will surpass imo the convenient and luring for broncos backers -2.5 , which for me will mean seattle + the points
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one thing is obvious for me so far - the broncos are not supposed to cover. also, i am not sure the nfl really wants manning winning it with two different teams. but that is possible. actually i am talking nonsense - everything is possible. i only don't see vegas losing here - so the time plays in our favor as the line will surpass imo the convenient and luring for broncos backers -2.5 , which for me will mean seattle + the points
one thing is obvious for me so far - the broncos are not supposed to cover. also, i am not sure the nfl really wants manning winning it with two different teams. but that is possible. actually i am talking nonsense - everything is possible. i only don't see vegas losing here - so the time plays in our favor as the line will surpass imo the convenient and luring for broncos backers -2.5 , which for me will mean seattle + the points
Can someone explain the "broncos are not supposed to cover...?" I am very new to this, and have found this community just to learn the ins and outs of sports betting!
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Quote Originally Posted by phixer:
one thing is obvious for me so far - the broncos are not supposed to cover. also, i am not sure the nfl really wants manning winning it with two different teams. but that is possible. actually i am talking nonsense - everything is possible. i only don't see vegas losing here - so the time plays in our favor as the line will surpass imo the convenient and luring for broncos backers -2.5 , which for me will mean seattle + the points
Can someone explain the "broncos are not supposed to cover...?" I am very new to this, and have found this community just to learn the ins and outs of sports betting!
rocthemikee,"broncos are not supposed to cover" just implies that it is not in vegas best interests for a heavily backed,heavily bet team to cover a spread....vegas is absolutely brilliant at wat they do in setting lines and didnt become a multi billion dollar enterprise by getting out-smarted by public bettors...watever ya wanna say about it there is a funny way of teams with massive public backing not covering and often losing outright...just keep an eye on %'s and you will see it all the time,more lose than win over time.
so the crux of it is that if by game time vegas stands to lose millions with a broncos cover(if betting was actually that one-sided),then the far more likely outcome is that they dont...maybe 1 or 2 point win or a loss.
there are also other layers tho,this is pure entertainment you have to remember and there are very clearly "story-lines" that play out that increase the popularity and therefore revenue stream for the league if certain things fall into place in a certain way.....ya know cheesey old stuff like "good prevails over evil" or "ultimate redemption story" or watever it mite be
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rocthemikee,"broncos are not supposed to cover" just implies that it is not in vegas best interests for a heavily backed,heavily bet team to cover a spread....vegas is absolutely brilliant at wat they do in setting lines and didnt become a multi billion dollar enterprise by getting out-smarted by public bettors...watever ya wanna say about it there is a funny way of teams with massive public backing not covering and often losing outright...just keep an eye on %'s and you will see it all the time,more lose than win over time.
so the crux of it is that if by game time vegas stands to lose millions with a broncos cover(if betting was actually that one-sided),then the far more likely outcome is that they dont...maybe 1 or 2 point win or a loss.
there are also other layers tho,this is pure entertainment you have to remember and there are very clearly "story-lines" that play out that increase the popularity and therefore revenue stream for the league if certain things fall into place in a certain way.....ya know cheesey old stuff like "good prevails over evil" or "ultimate redemption story" or watever it mite be
Phixer, mid-time lurker, first time poster. Just needed to tell you what a good job you're doing and I look forward to reading your predictions and reasoning behind these.
Great work!
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Phixer, mid-time lurker, first time poster. Just needed to tell you what a good job you're doing and I look forward to reading your predictions and reasoning behind these.
Phixer, Have done SICK crazy good this year. On board with you and rounder77 on the CappedIn network. Let's get the Superbowl sir! You have been outsmarting the line all year my man. I am going a bit bigger on the Superbowl so really hope we get this one.
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Phixer, Have done SICK crazy good this year. On board with you and rounder77 on the CappedIn network. Let's get the Superbowl sir! You have been outsmarting the line all year my man. I am going a bit bigger on the Superbowl so really hope we get this one.
rocthemikee,"broncos are not supposed to cover" just implies that it is not in vegas best interests for a heavily backed,heavily bet team to cover a spread....vegas is absolutely brilliant at wat they do in setting lines and didnt become a multi billion dollar enterprise by getting out-smarted by public bettors...watever ya wanna say about it there is a funny way of teams with massive public backing not covering and often losing outright...just keep an eye on %'s and you will see it all the time,more lose than win over time.
so the crux of it is that if by game time vegas stands to lose millions with a broncos cover(if betting was actually that one-sided),then the far more likely outcome is that they dont...maybe 1 or 2 point win or a loss.
there are also other layers tho,this is pure entertainment you have to remember and there are very clearly "story-lines" that play out that increase the popularity and therefore revenue stream for the league if certain things fall into place in a certain way.....ya know cheesey old stuff like "good prevails over evil" or "ultimate redemption story" or watever it mite be
Interesting...so how would Vegas influence a situation where the public is betting significant for one side?
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Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:
rocthemikee,"broncos are not supposed to cover" just implies that it is not in vegas best interests for a heavily backed,heavily bet team to cover a spread....vegas is absolutely brilliant at wat they do in setting lines and didnt become a multi billion dollar enterprise by getting out-smarted by public bettors...watever ya wanna say about it there is a funny way of teams with massive public backing not covering and often losing outright...just keep an eye on %'s and you will see it all the time,more lose than win over time.
so the crux of it is that if by game time vegas stands to lose millions with a broncos cover(if betting was actually that one-sided),then the far more likely outcome is that they dont...maybe 1 or 2 point win or a loss.
there are also other layers tho,this is pure entertainment you have to remember and there are very clearly "story-lines" that play out that increase the popularity and therefore revenue stream for the league if certain things fall into place in a certain way.....ya know cheesey old stuff like "good prevails over evil" or "ultimate redemption story" or watever it mite be
Interesting...so how would Vegas influence a situation where the public is betting significant for one side?
if the public will be heavily supporting the broncos - one of the two will happen: or one after another. i guess we'll be hearing about manning's neck problems few days prior to the game or some other injuries to the broncos and then i will know vegas is trying to balance the bets and then if balanced - broncos will be my bet. if all that does not happen and broncos will be getting 3 out each 4 dollars on them - then seattle will be my pick. but there's plenty of time for that.
remember that most of the public and the money as well as all kinds "experts" paid or free, touts or self declared profets were all over the niners in seattle and we all know how that ended.
now imagine more money. once the "refs are human" barrier is broken - everything is "under control". obvious calls that were called opposite of what they were supposed to in favor of seattle are already a routine since the refs strike last season so .....
and dont forget we were on the right side there twice
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if the public will be heavily supporting the broncos - one of the two will happen: or one after another. i guess we'll be hearing about manning's neck problems few days prior to the game or some other injuries to the broncos and then i will know vegas is trying to balance the bets and then if balanced - broncos will be my bet. if all that does not happen and broncos will be getting 3 out each 4 dollars on them - then seattle will be my pick. but there's plenty of time for that.
remember that most of the public and the money as well as all kinds "experts" paid or free, touts or self declared profets were all over the niners in seattle and we all know how that ended.
now imagine more money. once the "refs are human" barrier is broken - everything is "under control". obvious calls that were called opposite of what they were supposed to in favor of seattle are already a routine since the refs strike last season so .....
and dont forget we were on the right side there twice
Phix been following your thoughts for a few weeks now, where do you think the line will be at come game time?
in ideal world we'd get broncos -td by lvsc from the beginning. but in the one we're living in and betting on - only a fool could predict the line before the game now. sorry man - no such prediction. read the above post
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Quote Originally Posted by VegasSB:
Phix been following your thoughts for a few weeks now, where do you think the line will be at come game time?
in ideal world we'd get broncos -td by lvsc from the beginning. but in the one we're living in and betting on - only a fool could predict the line before the game now. sorry man - no such prediction. read the above post
if the public will be heavily supporting the broncos - one of the two will happen: or one after another. i guess we'll be hearing about manning's neck problems few days prior to the game or some other injuries to the broncos and then i will know vegas is trying to balance the bets and then if balanced - broncos will be my bet. if all that does not happen and broncos will be getting 3 out each 4 dollars on them - then seattle will be my pick. but there's plenty of time for that.
remember that most of the public and the money as well as all kinds "experts" paid or free, touts or self declared profets were all over the niners in seattle and we all know how that ended.
now imagine more money. once the "refs are human" barrier is broken - everything is "under control". obvious calls that were called opposite of what they were supposed to in favor of seattle are already a routine since the refs strike last season so .....
and dont forget we were on the right side there twice
Thanks for the lengthy explanation! Really insightful.
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Quote Originally Posted by phixer:
if the public will be heavily supporting the broncos - one of the two will happen: or one after another. i guess we'll be hearing about manning's neck problems few days prior to the game or some other injuries to the broncos and then i will know vegas is trying to balance the bets and then if balanced - broncos will be my bet. if all that does not happen and broncos will be getting 3 out each 4 dollars on them - then seattle will be my pick. but there's plenty of time for that.
remember that most of the public and the money as well as all kinds "experts" paid or free, touts or self declared profets were all over the niners in seattle and we all know how that ended.
now imagine more money. once the "refs are human" barrier is broken - everything is "under control". obvious calls that were called opposite of what they were supposed to in favor of seattle are already a routine since the refs strike last season so .....
and dont forget we were on the right side there twice
Thanks for the lengthy explanation! Really insightful.
The Seahawks/Steelers superbowl after the 2005 season had some calls by the refs that were questionable in the eyes of some people.
That was then and this is now... but... is there any incentive not to 'job' Seattle (irregardless of the money flow) and mame their fanbase once again? Or is it, bend over 'Great Northwest' take it like a man (or is that like a woman)?
Follow the money is the watchword for now and always I suppose...
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The Seahawks/Steelers superbowl after the 2005 season had some calls by the refs that were questionable in the eyes of some people.
That was then and this is now... but... is there any incentive not to 'job' Seattle (irregardless of the money flow) and mame their fanbase once again? Or is it, bend over 'Great Northwest' take it like a man (or is that like a woman)?
Follow the money is the watchword for now and always I suppose...
Why shouldn't it count? He hit the under.....cant you count? He always counts the winners, it's the losers that slip through the cracks. I have a list of the ones that he hasn't added in and will post it next weekend:)
I remember as a kid when Geraldo Rivera endlessly hyped up the opening of Al Capone's vault. When they finally opened the vault, it was empty. I didn't see any corrections posted by Thegrants82 this past weekend. Did he go Geraldo on us and have nothing behind the hype?
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Quote Originally Posted by Thegrants82:
Why shouldn't it count? He hit the under.....cant you count? He always counts the winners, it's the losers that slip through the cracks. I have a list of the ones that he hasn't added in and will post it next weekend:)
I remember as a kid when Geraldo Rivera endlessly hyped up the opening of Al Capone's vault. When they finally opened the vault, it was empty. I didn't see any corrections posted by Thegrants82 this past weekend. Did he go Geraldo on us and have nothing behind the hype?
if the public will be heavily supporting the broncos - one of the two will happen: or one after another. i guess we'll be hearing about manning's neck problems few days prior to the game or some other injuries to the broncos and then i will know vegas is trying to balance the bets and then if balanced - broncos will be my bet. if all that does not happen and broncos will be getting 3 out each 4 dollars on them - then seattle will be my pick. but there's plenty of time for that.
remember that most of the public and the money as well as all kinds "experts" paid or free, touts or self declared profets were all over the niners in seattle and we all know how that ended.
now imagine more money. once the "refs are human" barrier is broken - everything is "under control". obvious calls that were called opposite of what they were supposed to in favor of seattle are already a routine since the refs strike last season so .....
and dont forget we were on the right side there twice
Im on the hawks as well..
Bol phix
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Quote Originally Posted by phixer:
if the public will be heavily supporting the broncos - one of the two will happen: or one after another. i guess we'll be hearing about manning's neck problems few days prior to the game or some other injuries to the broncos and then i will know vegas is trying to balance the bets and then if balanced - broncos will be my bet. if all that does not happen and broncos will be getting 3 out each 4 dollars on them - then seattle will be my pick. but there's plenty of time for that.
remember that most of the public and the money as well as all kinds "experts" paid or free, touts or self declared profets were all over the niners in seattle and we all know how that ended.
now imagine more money. once the "refs are human" barrier is broken - everything is "under control". obvious calls that were called opposite of what they were supposed to in favor of seattle are already a routine since the refs strike last season so .....
and dont forget we were on the right side there twice
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