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    PANTHERS BY 4 TOUCHDOWNS IN SB

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    proguy747
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2016 - 11:25 AM ET #51

    Kool aide.
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    Kool aide.
     
    Digitalkarma
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2016 - 11:40 AM ET #52

    Win by 4 touchdowns against the #1 ranked defense? I dont think so..

    That would have to mean Broncos will score 0 points.
    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    Win by 4 touchdowns against the #1 ranked defense? I dont think so..

    That would have to mean Broncos will score 0 points.
     
    Asomugha
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2016 - 11:48 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:

    Win by 4 touchdowns against the #1 ranked defense? I dont think so..

    That would have to mean Broncos will score 0 points.

    Cardinals and Seahawks had a good D too. Rest is history. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:

    Win by 4 touchdowns against the #1 ranked defense? I dont think so..

    That would have to mean Broncos will score 0 points.

    Cardinals and Seahawks had a good D too. Rest is history. 
     
    wmi799
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2016 - 12:44 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:



    You are applauding Patrolls5! LOL, He loses everything he bets on. 

    Nice move
    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:



    You are applauding Patrolls5! LOL, He loses everything he bets on. 

    Nice move
     
    Asomugha
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2016 - 3:02 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:


    yOU ARE dead wrong IN YOUR ASSESSMENT. sERIOUSLY. nO WAY THE LEAGUE LETS mANNIGN BACK INTO THE SHOW, ONLY TO GET BLOWN OUT AGAIN.

    NO WAY, JOSE. QUASH THAT THEORY RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.


    I dont know if Manning will have a good game or a decent game, i just know he wont win. He could likely have a great game statwise but he will NOT win the ring. Trust me on this one. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:


    yOU ARE dead wrong IN YOUR ASSESSMENT. sERIOUSLY. nO WAY THE LEAGUE LETS mANNIGN BACK INTO THE SHOW, ONLY TO GET BLOWN OUT AGAIN.

    NO WAY, JOSE. QUASH THAT THEORY RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.


    I dont know if Manning will have a good game or a decent game, i just know he wont win. He could likely have a great game statwise but he will NOT win the ring. Trust me on this one. 
     
    M0neyMillsMark
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2016 - 5:01 PM ET #56

    It is morons like this that have no facts no cap or write up just an instinct that make me love the BRONCOS. What this clown has gone and done is shown everyone the type of person that will be backing carolina. i.e. public perception vs reality. Take the time and find some info before you blind bet. It physically pains me to see someone do this. STOP JUST STOP

    BOL
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    It is morons like this that have no facts no cap or write up just an instinct that make me love the BRONCOS. What this clown has gone and done is shown everyone the type of person that will be backing carolina. i.e. public perception vs reality. Take the time and find some info before you blind bet. It physically pains me to see someone do this. STOP JUST STOP

    BOL
     
    M0neyMillsMark
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2016 - 5:06 PM ET #57

    Honestly the more I read this the worse it is. Capping is  brotherhood and I wish all cappers the best. But this ASOMUGHA is so dumb... I can't take it, scary to think that this is how someone would think and bet. UNREAL Best of luck next weekend man I hope you aren't as dumb in rap life as you come across here....
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    Honestly the more I read this the worse it is. Capping is  brotherhood and I wish all cappers the best. But this ASOMUGHA is so dumb... I can't take it, scary to think that this is how someone would think and bet. UNREAL Best of luck next weekend man I hope you aren't as dumb in rap life as you come across here....
     
    sugabear
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2016 - 5:09 PM ET #58

    Panthers by 24
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    Panthers by 24
     
    Asomugha
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2016 - 5:26 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by M0neyMillsMark:

    Honestly the more I read this the worse it is. Capping is  brotherhood and I wish all cappers the best. But this ASOMUGHA is so dumb... I can't take it, scary to think that this is how someone would think and bet. UNREAL Best of luck next weekend man I hope you aren't as dumb in rap life as you come across here....

    Your Denver pick seems well thought out.. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by M0neyMillsMark:

    Honestly the more I read this the worse it is. Capping is  brotherhood and I wish all cappers the best. But this ASOMUGHA is so dumb... I can't take it, scary to think that this is how someone would think and bet. UNREAL Best of luck next weekend man I hope you aren't as dumb in rap life as you come across here....

    Your Denver pick seems well thought out.. 
     
    xanthax
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2016 - 7:33 PM ET #60

    Why the name calling, grow up. Like the experts get it right every game. 
    Let me ask you this. What have you seen in Denvers offence except for "game management" that you like. Did you see where they had the ball, on what yard line when they did happen to score.  It's not like they moved the ball down the field with ease. They got lucky that Cincy screwed up and got to face a banged up Pitts and a banged up pats team.  

    To me this game is identical like the den/seat game two years ago. Only diff is Denvers D is much better but the offence is worse. The line says it all. Denver was favoured two years ago and got beat badly, this year Carolina who to me resembles Seatle is favoured. 
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    Why the name calling, grow up. Like the experts get it right every game. 
    Let me ask you this. What have you seen in Denvers offence except for "game management" that you like. Did you see where they had the ball, on what yard line when they did happen to score.  It's not like they moved the ball down the field with ease. They got lucky that Cincy screwed up and got to face a banged up Pitts and a banged up pats team.  

    To me this game is identical like the den/seat game two years ago. Only diff is Denvers D is much better but the offence is worse. The line says it all. Denver was favoured two years ago and got beat badly, this year Carolina who to me resembles Seatle is favoured. 
     
    Duderonomy
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2016 - 10:56 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by M0neyMillsMark:

     What this clown has gone and done is shown everyone the type of person that will be backing carolina. i.e. public perception vs reality. 


    My thoughts exactly!  Breaking this game down and finding big advantages for one team is pretty hard... but when I keep seeing the arguments and the mentality of the people calling for a Carolina blowout, with nothing meaningful to back it up, my feeling is that Denver has to be the right play...
    The Dude imbibes
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    Quote Originally Posted by M0neyMillsMark:

     What this clown has gone and done is shown everyone the type of person that will be backing carolina. i.e. public perception vs reality. 


    My thoughts exactly!  Breaking this game down and finding big advantages for one team is pretty hard... but when I keep seeing the arguments and the mentality of the people calling for a Carolina blowout, with nothing meaningful to back it up, my feeling is that Denver has to be the right play...
     
    Asomugha
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2016 - 6:29 AM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by Duderonomy:



    My thoughts exactly!  Breaking this game down and finding big advantages for one team is pretty hard... but when I keep seeing the arguments and the mentality of the people calling for a Carolina blowout, with nothing meaningful to back it up, my feeling is that Denver has to be the right play...

    Panthers average win margin over the last 2 games = 20.5 points (and thats including a half where they didnt even score because the game was over)

    Denver average win margin over the last 2 games = 4.5 points

    So is it so hard for you to grasp that Panthers can easily win this game as well? And here im not even taking into account that Seahawks/Cardinals are MUCH better teams than Steelers/Patriots. Denver struggled so bad offensively, if they play offense like in any of the last 2 games they wont even face double digits. I dont think its going to be that bad for Denver, but Panthers are too much for them.


    I'll put something on the line: If Panthers does NOT win here ill never post on Covers again. Im 100% sure that Panthers will win. The only thing im unsure of is the margin of victory. But Panthers winning? Thats about as guaranteed as it can get. Ive never been so confident in a Super Bowl winner as i am now. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duderonomy:



    My thoughts exactly!  Breaking this game down and finding big advantages for one team is pretty hard... but when I keep seeing the arguments and the mentality of the people calling for a Carolina blowout, with nothing meaningful to back it up, my feeling is that Denver has to be the right play...

    Panthers average win margin over the last 2 games = 20.5 points (and thats including a half where they didnt even score because the game was over)

    Denver average win margin over the last 2 games = 4.5 points

    So is it so hard for you to grasp that Panthers can easily win this game as well? And here im not even taking into account that Seahawks/Cardinals are MUCH better teams than Steelers/Patriots. Denver struggled so bad offensively, if they play offense like in any of the last 2 games they wont even face double digits. I dont think its going to be that bad for Denver, but Panthers are too much for them.


    I'll put something on the line: If Panthers does NOT win here ill never post on Covers again. Im 100% sure that Panthers will win. The only thing im unsure of is the margin of victory. But Panthers winning? Thats about as guaranteed as it can get. Ive never been so confident in a Super Bowl winner as i am now. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2016 - 7:02 AM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    Panthers average win margin over the last 2 games = 20.5 points (and thats including a half where they didnt even score because the game was over)

    Denver average win margin over the last 2 games = 4.5 points

    So is it so hard for you to grasp that Panthers can easily win this game as well? And here im not even taking into account that Seahawks/Cardinals are MUCH better teams than Steelers/Patriots. Denver struggled so bad offensively, if they play offense like in any of the last 2 games they wont even face double digits. I dont think its going to be that bad for Denver, but Panthers are too much for them.


    I'll put something on the line: If Panthers does NOT win here ill never post on Covers again. Im 100% sure that Panthers will win. The only thing im unsure of is the margin of victory. But Panthers winning? Thats about as guaranteed as it can get. Ive never been so confident in a Super Bowl winner as i am now. 

    Keep going brother.  You are making me love my Bronco bet more and more.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    Panthers average win margin over the last 2 games = 20.5 points (and thats including a half where they didnt even score because the game was over)

    Denver average win margin over the last 2 games = 4.5 points

    So is it so hard for you to grasp that Panthers can easily win this game as well? And here im not even taking into account that Seahawks/Cardinals are MUCH better teams than Steelers/Patriots. Denver struggled so bad offensively, if they play offense like in any of the last 2 games they wont even face double digits. I dont think its going to be that bad for Denver, but Panthers are too much for them.


    I'll put something on the line: If Panthers does NOT win here ill never post on Covers again. Im 100% sure that Panthers will win. The only thing im unsure of is the margin of victory. But Panthers winning? Thats about as guaranteed as it can get. Ive never been so confident in a Super Bowl winner as i am now. 

    Keep going brother.  You are making me love my Bronco bet more and more.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2016 - 8:03 AM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:


    HHHMMMM. Lemme get this straight. You create a thread titled:

    "PANTHERS BY 4 TOUCHDOWNS IN SB"

    And NOW, you say you are unsure of the margin of victory. It sounds to me like you aren't sure of anything, but are simply looking for validation from fellow posters. Then just say that. It's OK to need some help now and then. Need a hug, big guy ?


    Yeah i think Panthers winning by 4 touchdowns is realistic, but what you need to consider is that im not a fortuneteller i just have an idea about whats gonna happen in this game, so it could be a 20 point win or a 30 point win i just think Panthers are looking to win this game by 4 touchdowns ish. All i know for a fact is that theyre going to win this game, theres absolute zero chance on earth that Denver can keep up with them looking over 4 quarters, this team is way too much for them. 

    Panthers lost 1 game this year with NFC being much better than AFC, so does anything at all suggest that Denver can be the team to beat them? Absolutely not. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:


    HHHMMMM. Lemme get this straight. You create a thread titled:

    "PANTHERS BY 4 TOUCHDOWNS IN SB"

    And NOW, you say you are unsure of the margin of victory. It sounds to me like you aren't sure of anything, but are simply looking for validation from fellow posters. Then just say that. It's OK to need some help now and then. Need a hug, big guy ?


    Yeah i think Panthers winning by 4 touchdowns is realistic, but what you need to consider is that im not a fortuneteller i just have an idea about whats gonna happen in this game, so it could be a 20 point win or a 30 point win i just think Panthers are looking to win this game by 4 touchdowns ish. All i know for a fact is that theyre going to win this game, theres absolute zero chance on earth that Denver can keep up with them looking over 4 quarters, this team is way too much for them. 

    Panthers lost 1 game this year with NFC being much better than AFC, so does anything at all suggest that Denver can be the team to beat them? Absolutely not. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2016 - 8:12 AM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:


    Keep going brother.  You are making me love my Bronco bet more and more.  

    Im glad people back Denver. Theyre there to ensure that the price of panthers is at least somewhat decent. I love the people thinking that Manning will get a ring but its clear to me after last superbowl he wont get another ring, he wasnt even CLOSE to getting one. So now again hes in a position where hes only 1 game away, but last time he didnt even came close, it was lost after 3-4 minutes basically completely. The game will not be out of his hands after 3-4 minutes this time, they gotta play with more patience, but you'll slowly see as the game progresses that the game will slip out of his hands and he will yet again face a lot. Denver backers are only there to even the sides of the action out, without him Panthers would take 99% of the action and vegas would take a huge loss. So the fact that some people think manning will magically win at this age and the way hes playing is only there to help even the action out EXACTLY like they want to have happen otherwise the beating will be too big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:


    Keep going brother.  You are making me love my Bronco bet more and more.  

    Im glad people back Denver. Theyre there to ensure that the price of panthers is at least somewhat decent. I love the people thinking that Manning will get a ring but its clear to me after last superbowl he wont get another ring, he wasnt even CLOSE to getting one. So now again hes in a position where hes only 1 game away, but last time he didnt even came close, it was lost after 3-4 minutes basically completely. The game will not be out of his hands after 3-4 minutes this time, they gotta play with more patience, but you'll slowly see as the game progresses that the game will slip out of his hands and he will yet again face a lot. Denver backers are only there to even the sides of the action out, without him Panthers would take 99% of the action and vegas would take a huge loss. So the fact that some people think manning will magically win at this age and the way hes playing is only there to help even the action out EXACTLY like they want to have happen otherwise the beating will be too big.
     
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    Unless Kubiak has deliberately kept his cards close to his chest and comes out with something different (and the old Peyton Manning happens to show up), I just can't see how they will contain Newton who is not just doing it with his arm but will do it by running if it gets to desperate times.
    I did not like the way the Broncos came out in the second half of last weeks game, they were incredibly tentative and basically relied on the defense to get it done. That won't work against the Panthers.

    I wanna believe Peyton Manning has one last top performance left in him but it seems unlikely given where his body is at.
    No way can I see this being a blow out though, I think the bookies have it spot on. I don't see the Panthers getting out to a big lead early as they have done for the last months, be interesting to see how Newton responds if his team is actually trailing midway through the game.

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    Unless Kubiak has deliberately kept his cards close to his chest and comes out with something different (and the old Peyton Manning happens to show up), I just can't see how they will contain Newton who is not just doing it with his arm but will do it by running if it gets to desperate times.
    I did not like the way the Broncos came out in the second half of last weeks game, they were incredibly tentative and basically relied on the defense to get it done. That won't work against the Panthers.

    I wanna believe Peyton Manning has one last top performance left in him but it seems unlikely given where his body is at.
    No way can I see this being a blow out though, I think the bookies have it spot on. I don't see the Panthers getting out to a big lead early as they have done for the last months, be interesting to see how Newton responds if his team is actually trailing midway through the game.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    I love the people thinking that Manning will get a ring but its clear to me after last superbowl he wont get another ring, he wasnt even CLOSE to getting one. 


    It's this kind of stuff that makes me realize that you don't really understand how football works, and that you see things from an irrational perspective.  Earlier, you admitted that you bet Denver in 2014, when they had an anemic defense but a potent offense, playing against one of the best defenses in NFL history.  And you clearly watched that game through the lens of an emotional and frustrated bettor. 

    But Manning didn't lose that game!  He had almost nothing to do with it.  The game was over, like you said, 3-4 minutes into it... but what did Manning have to do with it?


    Super Bowls are not (EVER) won by QBs.  They are always (100% of them) won by football teams!


    The Seahawks were a better team, and that is why they won the Super Bowl.  Your simple-minded view of whether or not Manning can win a Super Bowl is proof that you are not qualified to be breaking down a game... and sure as $hit unqualified to be guaranteeing a victory!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    I love the people thinking that Manning will get a ring but its clear to me after last superbowl he wont get another ring, he wasnt even CLOSE to getting one. 


    It's this kind of stuff that makes me realize that you don't really understand how football works, and that you see things from an irrational perspective.  Earlier, you admitted that you bet Denver in 2014, when they had an anemic defense but a potent offense, playing against one of the best defenses in NFL history.  And you clearly watched that game through the lens of an emotional and frustrated bettor. 

    But Manning didn't lose that game!  He had almost nothing to do with it.  The game was over, like you said, 3-4 minutes into it... but what did Manning have to do with it?


    Super Bowls are not (EVER) won by QBs.  They are always (100% of them) won by football teams!


    The Seahawks were a better team, and that is why they won the Super Bowl.  Your simple-minded view of whether or not Manning can win a Super Bowl is proof that you are not qualified to be breaking down a game... and sure as $hit unqualified to be guaranteeing a victory!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2016 - 11:30 AM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by proguy747:

    yeah vegas has no clue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proguy747:

    yeah vegas has no clue.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROVIN56:

    yeah DimWit Peyton Manning in his last pro game given near 5 points with the best defense in football doesnt stand a chance nope glad i got a chance to read this and look forward to your postgame discussion groups ayup



    People talk like this Denver defense is the greatest ever in the NFL....

    Newsflash...Carolina allowed 308 points this year and Denver allowed 298....They allowed 8 less points than Carolina 


    Denver also only faced 3 teams in the top 14 in offense
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROVIN56:

    yeah DimWit Peyton Manning in his last pro game given near 5 points with the best defense in football doesnt stand a chance nope glad i got a chance to read this and look forward to your postgame discussion groups ayup



    People talk like this Denver defense is the greatest ever in the NFL....

    Newsflash...Carolina allowed 308 points this year and Denver allowed 298....They allowed 8 less points than Carolina 


    Denver also only faced 3 teams in the top 14 in offense
     
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    I like all the confidence i see on both sides. 

    I think carolina defense is heavily under rated. Theyre pure savages. Denver too. 
    But I think carolinas O line will defend and keep cam safe n give him enough time to score. 
    Car -5 all day IMO. 

    That being said, this is only my second season following NFL / Sports betting. 

    From what I feel, if nfl is legit, CAR ruins Den. 

    If there is a script or something obvious that happens that favours, and denver beats car, especially in a suspicious way, then i think nfl is scripted. 

    Hoping car blows out to keep the legitamacy of the game  
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    I like all the confidence i see on both sides. 

    I think carolina defense is heavily under rated. Theyre pure savages. Denver too. 
    But I think carolinas O line will defend and keep cam safe n give him enough time to score. 
    Car -5 all day IMO. 

    That being said, this is only my second season following NFL / Sports betting. 

    From what I feel, if nfl is legit, CAR ruins Den. 

    If there is a script or something obvious that happens that favours, and denver beats car, especially in a suspicious way, then i think nfl is scripted. 

    Hoping car blows out to keep the legitamacy of the game  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2016 - 2:16 PM ET #71

    Close game will go to Denver. Riverboat Ron's behind will get extremely tight and effect his play calling if close. I'[m a Bears fan and will never forget the 2006 Superbowl. Ron was DC for the Bears back then. One of the best Ds of the year... until SB. He let Manning pick us apart. Sooooooooofffffffttttttt Defense. Panthers players are more talented overall, but the coaching will make a difference in this one. Was in Vegas last weekend. Cleaned up on the Panthers. I don't feel as confident on this one. If I were to bet, I'd tease 7 to get Broncos at +12 and the O\U 38 and take the over. GL.
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    Close game will go to Denver. Riverboat Ron's behind will get extremely tight and effect his play calling if close. I'[m a Bears fan and will never forget the 2006 Superbowl. Ron was DC for the Bears back then. One of the best Ds of the year... until SB. He let Manning pick us apart. Sooooooooofffffffttttttt Defense. Panthers players are more talented overall, but the coaching will make a difference in this one. Was in Vegas last weekend. Cleaned up on the Panthers. I don't feel as confident on this one. If I were to bet, I'd tease 7 to get Broncos at +12 and the O\U 38 and take the over. GL.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2016 - 4:21 PM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by Duderonomy:



    It's this kind of stuff that makes me realize that you don't really understand how football works, and that you see things from an irrational perspective.  Earlier, you admitted that you bet Denver in 2014, when they had an anemic defense but a potent offense, playing against one of the best defenses in NFL history.  And you clearly watched that game through the lens of an emotional and frustrated bettor. 

    But Manning didn't lose that game!  He had almost nothing to do with it.  The game was over, like you said, 3-4 minutes into it... but what did Manning have to do with it?


    Super Bowls are not (EVER) won by QBs.  They are always (100% of them) won by football teams!


    The Seahawks were a better team, and that is why they won the Super Bowl.  Your simple-minded view of whether or not Manning can win a Super Bowl is proof that you are not qualified to be breaking down a game... and sure as $hit unqualified to be guaranteeing a victory!

    Oh god, you clearly didnt even watch the Super Bowl which is just beyond pathetic that you choose to bring it up as if you actually watched it. Yes, 10 second fumble and Manning and Denver was STUNNED and he never got them back into the game. Manning didnt even convert a 4th down at any point in the game, even WITHOUT pressure on Denvers shoulders anymore he couldnt do anything, not ANYTHING. He had absolutely no solutions, he was trash in every possible way you can think of, how can you watch this Denver team and say "They can actually win the Super Bowl" lol. They dont have the tools to deal with Panthers, and i actually considered Manning to be a good QB last season, as ive watched this season i just think hes getting worse and worse and hes way too easy to read. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duderonomy:



    It's this kind of stuff that makes me realize that you don't really understand how football works, and that you see things from an irrational perspective.  Earlier, you admitted that you bet Denver in 2014, when they had an anemic defense but a potent offense, playing against one of the best defenses in NFL history.  And you clearly watched that game through the lens of an emotional and frustrated bettor. 

    But Manning didn't lose that game!  He had almost nothing to do with it.  The game was over, like you said, 3-4 minutes into it... but what did Manning have to do with it?


    Super Bowls are not (EVER) won by QBs.  They are always (100% of them) won by football teams!


    The Seahawks were a better team, and that is why they won the Super Bowl.  Your simple-minded view of whether or not Manning can win a Super Bowl is proof that you are not qualified to be breaking down a game... and sure as $hit unqualified to be guaranteeing a victory!

    Oh god, you clearly didnt even watch the Super Bowl which is just beyond pathetic that you choose to bring it up as if you actually watched it. Yes, 10 second fumble and Manning and Denver was STUNNED and he never got them back into the game. Manning didnt even convert a 4th down at any point in the game, even WITHOUT pressure on Denvers shoulders anymore he couldnt do anything, not ANYTHING. He had absolutely no solutions, he was trash in every possible way you can think of, how can you watch this Denver team and say "They can actually win the Super Bowl" lol. They dont have the tools to deal with Panthers, and i actually considered Manning to be a good QB last season, as ive watched this season i just think hes getting worse and worse and hes way too easy to read. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2016 - 4:49 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:



    Yeah i think Panthers winning by 4 touchdowns is realistic, but what you need to consider is that im not a fortuneteller i just have an idea about whats gonna happen in this game, so it could be a 20 point win or a 30 point win i just think Panthers are looking to win this game by 4 touchdowns ish. All i know for a fact is that theyre going to win this game, theres absolute zero chance on earth that Denver can keep up with them looking over 4 quarters, this team is way too much for them. 

    Panthers lost 1 game this year with NFC being much better than AFC, so does anything at all suggest that Denver can be the team to beat them? Absolutely not. 

    All teams are looking to beat the other team by 4 TDs.  Doesn't mean it happens.

    You're not a fortune teller but you "KNOW' Carolina will win?

    NFC being MUCH BETTER than AFC?  Pump the brakes there bud.  Even if you weren't wrong, you act like this is the NBA EC vs. WC discrepancy.  Redskins, Minnesota and Green Bay were playoff representatives this year in the NFC.  LOL, do I even need to go further? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:



    Yeah i think Panthers winning by 4 touchdowns is realistic, but what you need to consider is that im not a fortuneteller i just have an idea about whats gonna happen in this game, so it could be a 20 point win or a 30 point win i just think Panthers are looking to win this game by 4 touchdowns ish. All i know for a fact is that theyre going to win this game, theres absolute zero chance on earth that Denver can keep up with them looking over 4 quarters, this team is way too much for them. 

    Panthers lost 1 game this year with NFC being much better than AFC, so does anything at all suggest that Denver can be the team to beat them? Absolutely not. 

    All teams are looking to beat the other team by 4 TDs.  Doesn't mean it happens.

    You're not a fortune teller but you "KNOW' Carolina will win?

    NFC being MUCH BETTER than AFC?  Pump the brakes there bud.  Even if you weren't wrong, you act like this is the NBA EC vs. WC discrepancy.  Redskins, Minnesota and Green Bay were playoff representatives this year in the NFC.  LOL, do I even need to go further? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:


    All teams are looking to beat the other team by 4 TDs.  Doesn't mean it happens.

    You're not a fortune teller but you "KNOW' Carolina will win?

    NFC being MUCH BETTER than AFC?  Pump the brakes there bud.  Even if you weren't wrong, you act like this is the NBA EC vs. WC discrepancy.  Redskins, Minnesota and Green Bay were playoff representatives this year in the NFC.  LOL, do I even need to go further? 

    I mean i think theyre gonna work their way up to around a 4TD win.

    Yeah im sure Panthers will win. Miracles do happen, but i dont see it here.  

    I think Green Bay are alot better than the AFC teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:


    All teams are looking to beat the other team by 4 TDs.  Doesn't mean it happens.

    You're not a fortune teller but you "KNOW' Carolina will win?

    NFC being MUCH BETTER than AFC?  Pump the brakes there bud.  Even if you weren't wrong, you act like this is the NBA EC vs. WC discrepancy.  Redskins, Minnesota and Green Bay were playoff representatives this year in the NFC.  LOL, do I even need to go further? 

    I mean i think theyre gonna work their way up to around a 4TD win.

    Yeah im sure Panthers will win. Miracles do happen, but i dont see it here.  

    I think Green Bay are alot better than the AFC teams.

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2016 - 5:24 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:




    People talk like this Denver defense is the greatest ever in the NFL....

    Newsflash...Carolina allowed 308 points this year and Denver allowed 298....They allowed 8 less points than Carolina 


    Denver also only faced 3 teams in the top 14 in offense

    Out of context that's a solid argument.  Too bad we are all smarter than that.  Considering that Carolina's offense gave the ball away only 19 times vs. 31 times for Denver's offense (18 directly from Manning himself), I think that stat is HIGHLY impressive for Denver's D to "only" allow 8 points less than Carolina.

    Manning has only had 1 turnover (lost fumble) since returning to the starting line up.  After giving up 17 interceptions, he's had ZERO week 16 and this post season.  And it's not like he hasn't played any defensive chumps.  PITT and NE are upper half of NFL (8/15 respectively) in DVOA total D and both were pretty much full strength on defense.  Pitt was tied for 3rd in takeaways with 30 this season (Carolina had 39).  Carolina was able to face Arizona without the very important Honey Badger and Seattle operating with a serious equipment failure the first half and running on 4 weeks of continuous travel.

    See, in context things don't look as impressive do they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:




    People talk like this Denver defense is the greatest ever in the NFL....

    Newsflash...Carolina allowed 308 points this year and Denver allowed 298....They allowed 8 less points than Carolina 


    Denver also only faced 3 teams in the top 14 in offense

    Out of context that's a solid argument.  Too bad we are all smarter than that.  Considering that Carolina's offense gave the ball away only 19 times vs. 31 times for Denver's offense (18 directly from Manning himself), I think that stat is HIGHLY impressive for Denver's D to "only" allow 8 points less than Carolina.

    Manning has only had 1 turnover (lost fumble) since returning to the starting line up.  After giving up 17 interceptions, he's had ZERO week 16 and this post season.  And it's not like he hasn't played any defensive chumps.  PITT and NE are upper half of NFL (8/15 respectively) in DVOA total D and both were pretty much full strength on defense.  Pitt was tied for 3rd in takeaways with 30 this season (Carolina had 39).  Carolina was able to face Arizona without the very important Honey Badger and Seattle operating with a serious equipment failure the first half and running on 4 weeks of continuous travel.

    See, in context things don't look as impressive do they?
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