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NONEED4LUCK

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Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 11:57 PM ET #226

Quote Originally Posted by tikitom:

@vanzack How do you make a small fortune gambling? Start with a big one. To whatever degree you actually really gamble, all you are doing is pissing away money your ancestors earned. hurumph, hurumph my bitcoin stash makes my jillion unit losses seem like a pebble on my gold brick road. Post your best year betting soccer on X (when it was Twitter). Refresh one old post like when Mr Bator posted the Jets at huge + money. you cannot because you’ve never done it youre a standard Midwit leftist. You likely did cash (wagering family money) when Obama won. Not because you accurately predicted the election, rather you just got lucky. How much did you lose in November? In that “toss up”?

If he has a huge bitcoin account and wants to brag about it; he should post a screen shot of the number. Only down 38 units but five years ago I made a lot. No one cares what anyone did last year or beyond. Living off the past is not going to make one succeed in the future. Vanzack might be loaded. Who knows. One thing I know, the richest guys I know, don’t post on the internet. AT ALL.

NONEED4LUCK

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Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 11:58 PM ET #227

And they are a lot richer than anyone on this forum.

cave0707

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Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 11:58 PM ET #228

@cd329

It already did. He tailed Vanzack.

NONEED4LUCK

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Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 11:58 PM ET #229

The NFL has changed. The old rules din’t apply. Time to start revamping the formula.

vanzack

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 12:01 AM ET #230

Great advise so far. Great suggestions.

Considering it now......

HOW ABOUT NO

peace_5

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tikitom

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 12:05 AM ET #231

@vanzack

Hurumph, hurumph, this season I actually did a sociological experiment by posting my reverse picks and you dimwits fell for it! Hurumph, hurumph. I’m actually up a jillion units as a result, hurumph, hurumph.

also bitcoin and animal shelters.

hurumph, hurumph.

vanzack

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 12:07 AM ET #232

Quote Originally Posted by tikitom:

@vanzack Hurumph, hurumph, this season I actually did a sociological experiment by posting my reverse picks and you dimwits fell for it! Hurumph, hurumph. I’m actually up a jillion units as a result, hurumph, hurumph. also bitcoin and animal shelters. hurumph, hurumph.

Winners, Bitcoin, and animal shelters.

That will be on my tombstone.

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NONEED4LUCK

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 12:09 AM ET #233

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Great advise so far. Great suggestions. Considering it now...... HOW ABOUT NO

I have 100 bitcoin as well. peace_5

vanzack

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 12:09 AM ET #234

You forgot I have 10% of a Circa survivor entry with the Bucs available.

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vanzack

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 12:10 AM ET #235

Quote Originally Posted by NONEED4LUCK:

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Great advise so far. Great suggestions. Considering it now...... HOW ABOUT NO I have 100 bitcoin as well.

Because the first thing someone with actual Bitcoin does is tell everyone how much BTC they have.

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NONEED4LUCK

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 12:14 AM ET #236

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Quote Originally Posted by NONEED4LUCK: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Great advise so far. Great suggestions. Considering it now...... HOW ABOUT NO I have 100 bitcoin as well. Because the first thing someone with actual Bitcoin does is tell everyone how much BTC they have.

when you brag on the internet, you either provide receipts or you are full of shit. It’s easy to crop a photo. Maybe you don’t know how to do that. I own zero bitcoin. I was making a point. You think this is social media where people know who you are. Big red knows me and John I can’t even remember his handle. Have you befriended anyone who from this site than can provide receipts since you can’t?

vanzack

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 12:16 AM ET #237

Quote Originally Posted by NONEED4LUCK:

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Quote Originally Posted by NONEED4LUCK: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: Great advise so far. Great suggestions. Considering it now...... HOW ABOUT NO I have 100 bitcoin as well. Because the first thing someone with actual Bitcoin does is tell everyone how much BTC they have. when you brag on the internet, you either provide receipts or you are full of shit. It’s easy to crop a photo. Maybe you don’t know how to do that. I own zero bitcoin. I was making a point. You think this is social media where people know who you are. Big red knows me and John I can’t even remember his handle. Have you befriended anyone who from this site than can provide receipts since you can’t?

I don't have any Bitcoin either.

Buzz off weirdo. Why the fuck would I want to prove anything to some Internet weirdo?

I have no Bitcoin, never heard of it actually.

peace_5

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Seymourbukz

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 12:33 AM ET #238

Quote Originally Posted by MRxKrazz:

I have been asking, baiting, YELLING at him all season to talk FOOTBALL! His response is you are not my customer, I OWE you nothing, I can not WIN typing up a storm on why I pick my games, yet in years past, this guy is one of the BEST in debating his picks, this year he choses NOT to do that because he CAN NOT argue on his pick selection at all. In one of the weeks, he was talking about pass rush is ONE of the KEY ingredients in his process to making picks, that week he took the Panthers who was trash on defense and a Broncos team who was smashing especially their pass rush, questioned him about it, was really into just picking his brain, yet all he was replying with was non sense, you are not a paying customer, I owe you nothing, I will not engage on why I pick shit teams. Another week he was typing up how when favs are winning he won't be having success, I notice he was sneaking in more than enough shares of favs, his response was even more insane, I zigged when I should have zagged. This was the weeks when he was posting PROCESS >>> RESULTS. I was super confuse process over results then how can one preach on process over results, questioned him those weeks then his whole tone changed for the worst. His Army got on me about where are my picks, he is the nicest guy around. Is he really? Dude was a clown when he just came on to covers, found success and became one of the worse vibes on covers! Around this time I am on X and found his account, man let tell you guys, when I saw the rumor he was working for the books like a bad influencers, it all started to click and make sense to me. Taking underdogs is one thing, but taking underdogs without any reason, without any players, taking them when there aren't any stats or trends or injuries supporting is CRAZY! I did not understand why he wouldn't talk FOOTBALL, after everything, I get it, how can he explain why he is taking these teams, because he can't! Bringing LOTS of money in on games the books can not find action with, and teams no one wants to take! Horrible! 4caster is a real site, I finally made the waitlist, while it might seem a little cheaper than most books, it is FAR from NO JUICE! and sadly the games he post the .25 or .75, those games are normally averaging around -113 or higher, factor that and the fact he does not post his record, big marketing gimmick if you ask me. He is a high volume player, the juice would eat up 20-30% of his profit if he is WINNING! Let alone when he is losing. I wasn't sure why I was send to covers jail 2 weeks ago, it really upset me, I been here for years, this is an open space, especially on an open gambling site with a forum. It should be fair game after my interaction and engagement with him I share what I have found out, save a lot of people that blindly follows him. Bad streaks is one thing, bad people doing bad things is a whole different topic. Do not ever blindly follow someone, one never know their true intentions and their motivation behind what they are doing. Happy Holidays.

what exactly is your problem with vanzack lol

go seek help this is literally nothing but an Internet forum

what exactly is your problem with vanzack lol

go seek help this is literally nothing but an Internet forum

MIZARD

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 1:04 AM ET #239

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

You forgot I have 10% of a Circa survivor entry with the Bucs available.

vanzack, I still think your one of the top cappers on this site despite your horrible year, but bragging about buying into someone’s circa survivor contest and having zero say on the pick is not a flex. Why you keep repeating it is weird.

gl going forward, I hope it turns around for you.

JJWoods

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 6:25 AM ET #240

Quote Originally Posted by NONEED4LUCK:

And they are a lot richer than anyone on this forum.

listen to yourself braggart confused

Never told why I was banned and gave my best always to the forums

JJWoods

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 6:43 AM ET #241

Being in this Handicapping business since 1987…. Regression will absolutely happen to the best of the best. peace_5 It’s the nature of the beast. What’s really impressed me is how, in the face of truly tough luck… VanZ:
-knowing he was in a rut, reduced his unit wager to 2 or 2.5 wisely
-he stuck to his true and tested formula that’s worked, handsomely over the years through thick and thin. I personally never even thought of fading his selections. Would you?
-also early on recognizing the stars aren’t aligning, VanZ reduced his plays down to 4-5 (again very wise and many should take lessons) instead of chasing or increasing wagers as 90% of Sports Gamblers do.
-Did I mention I’ve never seen a gambler ever, not have a bad year or season or 2-3 seasons. Ask the King Billy Walters

One more thing… Playoffs are coming soon. I guarantee Vanzack comes out pistols firing with the clean slate. As always through the years I’ll be watching closely.

Never told why I was banned and gave my best always to the forums

dubz4dummyz

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 10:13 AM ET #242

@MIZARD

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vanzack

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 11:36 AM ET #243

Quote Originally Posted by MIZARD:

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: You forgot I have 10% of a Circa survivor entry with the Bucs available. vanzack, I still think your one of the top cappers on this site despite your horrible year, but bragging about buying into someone’s circa survivor contest and having zero say on the pick is not a flex. Why you keep repeating it is weird. gl going forward, I hope it turns around for you.

Context.

Look who I am posting that in response to. I am trolling the trolls, jabroni wrasslin style. I also am getting BJs from supermodels - but you didnt mention that.

All in good fun. 80k minimum doesn't hurt, but its not a flex - although a pretty good investment.

And thank god I refused to consult the owner of the Survivor team. I didnt want to spread my poison. He has done a masterful job of getting to this point by himself.

Thanks for the balanced feedback, seems like you went out of your way to give an honest assessment.

peace_5

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vanzack

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 11:37 AM ET #244

Quote Originally Posted by JJWoods:

Being in this Handicapping business since 1987…. Regression will absolutely happen to the best of the best. It’s the nature of the beast. What’s really impressed me is how, in the face of truly tough luck… VanZ: -knowing he was in a rut, reduced his unit wager to 2 or 2.5 wisely -he stuck to his true and tested formula that’s worked, handsomely over the years through thick and thin. I personally never even thought of fading his selections. Would you? -also early on recognizing the stars aren’t aligning, VanZ reduced his plays down to 4-5 (again very wise and many should take lessons) instead of chasing or increasing wagers as 90% of Sports Gamblers do. -Did I mention I’ve never seen a gambler ever, not have a bad year or season or 2-3 seasons. Ask the King Billy Walters One more thing… Playoffs are coming soon. I guarantee Vanzack comes out pistols firing with the clean slate. As always through the years I’ll be watching closely.

I said before the season starts that a losing season is well within the possible outcomes. It always is.

Happy New Year. We could use more rational thought at this cesspool.

peace_5

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cd329

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Posted: Dec. 30, 2024 - 1:01 PM ET #245

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Quote Originally Posted by JJWoods: Being in this Handicapping business since 1987…. Regression will absolutely happen to the best of the best. It’s the nature of the beast. What’s really impressed me is how, in the face of truly tough luck… VanZ: -knowing he was in a rut, reduced his unit wager to 2 or 2.5 wisely -he stuck to his true and tested formula that’s worked, handsomely over the years through thick and thin. I personally never even thought of fading his selections. Would you? -also early on recognizing the stars aren’t aligning, VanZ reduced his plays down to 4-5 (again very wise and many should take lessons) instead of chasing or increasing wagers as 90% of Sports Gamblers do. -Did I mention I’ve never seen a gambler ever, not have a bad year or season or 2-3 seasons. Ask the King Billy Walters One more thing… Playoffs are coming soon. I guarantee Vanzack comes out pistols firing with the clean slate. As always through the years I’ll be watching closely. I said before the season starts that a losing season is well within the possible outcomes. It always is. Happy New Year. We could use more rational thought at this cesspool.

Amen to that Van. Have a HAPPY NEW YEARS an_light The trolls that are busting your chops are just mad because they believe that you have biffs sports almanac and arent supposed to lose ever an_roll_laugh My septic tank in my backyard has classier organisms in it, then a lot of the people here. Very sad lives these people lead, but like i have always believed KARMA COMES FOR THESE FOLKS WHEN THEY ARE LEAST READY FOR IT

P.S. Covers need to get rid of all the people who keep causing trouble, especially the idiots that cry cry cry about games being fixed but then when their bet wins, they stop crying fix. Last night same bullshit wash bettors were all crying about vegas and the nfl fixing the game for the falcons to win, then when the falcons lost. Then all the fixer idiots were as quiet as a mouse.

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