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    MNF: Den/Sd Hedge...1 out 8 team left to win $15K...HELP!!!

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    mrquija27
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 2:19 PM ET #51

    Ok dude listen to me....

    If I come to you on the street and say I have a offer for you.  I will give you $7500 for nothing or we can flip a coin if its heads I will give you $15000 and if its tails you give me $100.

    What would you do?

    DONT BE GREEDY MAN!!!  GREED DOES NOT PAY.  HEDGE IT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE AND PARTY HARD WITH NO STRESS!!!!!!!

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    Ok dude listen to me....

    If I come to you on the street and say I have a offer for you.  I will give you $7500 for nothing or we can flip a coin if its heads I will give you $15000 and if its tails you give me $100.

    What would you do?

    DONT BE GREEDY MAN!!!  GREED DOES NOT PAY.  HEDGE IT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE AND PARTY HARD WITH NO STRESS!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 2:22 PM ET #52

    A fool and his money are soon parted.......  If YOU dont Hedge 7G's and win  you will lose it all back anyway.... BE SMART
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    A fool and his money are soon parted.......  If YOU dont Hedge 7G's and win  you will lose it all back anyway.... BE SMART
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 2:28 PM ET #53

    his prob is not chopping the ticket, his problem is finding a guy to lay 7 dimes off on.  ain't happening. 
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    his prob is not chopping the ticket, his problem is finding a guy to lay 7 dimes off on.  ain't happening. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 2:29 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer:

    It's stupid to hedge.

    BUT, obviously 15k is a lot of money to most people so do whatever makes you able to sleep at night.

    For me, that would be letting it ride. Otherwise, I would have just never put the last game on the ticket!

    (BTW, I'm in Ontario too. Have fun cashing that down at the head office if you do win; God, what a nightmare!)




    UMmmmmm $15,000  is a LOT of money whether you are making $30,000 a year       $100,000 a year or even  a $ million a year..... FUTHERMORE winning $15,000  on a 100 bet is a LOT of MONEY for the risk..... "RICH GUY"
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer:

    It's stupid to hedge.

    BUT, obviously 15k is a lot of money to most people so do whatever makes you able to sleep at night.

    For me, that would be letting it ride. Otherwise, I would have just never put the last game on the ticket!

    (BTW, I'm in Ontario too. Have fun cashing that down at the head office if you do win; God, what a nightmare!)




    UMmmmmm $15,000  is a LOT of money whether you are making $30,000 a year       $100,000 a year or even  a $ million a year..... FUTHERMORE winning $15,000  on a 100 bet is a LOT of MONEY for the risk..... "RICH GUY"
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 2:30 PM ET #55

    so hedging is the ONLY guarantee you make money, you got a guarantee in gambling???
    What is the questions HEDGE!
    If I told you I would give you $7500 for 100 would you jump on it, yup!

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    so hedging is the ONLY guarantee you make money, you got a guarantee in gambling???
    What is the questions HEDGE!
    If I told you I would give you $7500 for 100 would you jump on it, yup!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 2:30 PM ET #56

    ONLINE HEritage  takes up to 20!   or Bookmaker
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    ONLINE HEritage  takes up to 20!   or Bookmaker
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 2:33 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by CoverLane:

    hedge the fuck out and enjoy the free 7500



    Easily the best decision u could make
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoverLane:

    hedge the fuck out and enjoy the free 7500



    Easily the best decision u could make
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 2:38 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by choiOi:

    Don't hedge...double up buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choiOi:

    Don't hedge...double up buddy.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 2:40 PM ET #59

    If you bet half on Denver and SD covers you will be pissed that you blew $7,500.  I would hedge $1000 or so only.

     

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    If you bet half on Denver and SD covers you will be pissed that you blew $7,500.  I would hedge $1000 or so only.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 3:32 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus10:

    Go to the airport, grab a ticket to Vegas, put $7000 on Denver and enjoy your night. That's what I would do at least.

     I would do the same thing!  Hedge 100%  7K
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus10:

    Go to the airport, grab a ticket to Vegas, put $7000 on Denver and enjoy your night. That's what I would do at least.

     I would do the same thing!  Hedge 100%  7K
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 3:50 PM ET #61

    Congrats Man, you'll hate yourself more if you don't hedge n they lose than if you hedge and they cover..7k is plenty on 100$ bet. Enjoy.
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    Congrats Man, you'll hate yourself more if you don't hedge n they lose than if you hedge and they cover..7k is plenty on 100$ bet. Enjoy.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 4:00 PM ET #62

    One possibility is that you could wait until halftime to hedge if need be. If SD is winning by halftime then you're golden.  You could then just lay Denver 2nd half and possibly win both.  The only risk factor is if Denver is winning by halftime.  Then you would just have to pray...
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    One possibility is that you could wait until halftime to hedge if need be. If SD is winning by halftime then you're golden.  You could then just lay Denver 2nd half and possibly win both.  The only risk factor is if Denver is winning by halftime.  Then you would just have to pray...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 4:02 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer:

    It's stupid to hedge.


    BUT, obviously 15k is a lot of money to most people so do whatever makes you able to sleep at night.

    For me, that would be letting it ride. Otherwise, I would have just never put the last game on the ticket!

    (BTW, I'm in Ontario too. Have fun cashing that down at the head office if you do win; God, what a nightmare!)

    I will be so mad if they force me to take photo to advertise on their sheets....i will refuse...but apparently they can refuse payment if you say you don't want. they probably wont make a fuss since its a big amount but imagine winning millions in the regular lotto and not being able to have privacy. they do a lot of false advertising. especially with the sports lottery where they steal so much. they happily advertise the pro picks pool winners but only a few people know that they take 40% of the pool and pay only 60% as prize.

    i once won a proline ticket with few hockey and nfl games...i played it for $400....in the same store...the clerk didnt know and he ran the ticket 4 times when i asked him to...i won about 4.5k...when i went to the office...they took me to this interview rooms and drilled me with questions in front of a recorded camera...it was almost like in a police station (liek you see it in movies when they talk to criminals)...they said i am not suppose to play for more than $100 ont he same ticket bal blabla i was so pissed and told them why the fuck would they sell it...go tell your clerks not to sell...they said the interview was evidence to fine/suspend the retailer.....eventually they paid me...but it was a hassle....i have cashed in 8 teamer in the past....they kind of treat you as if you did something illegal....they asked so many question...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer:

    It's stupid to hedge.


    BUT, obviously 15k is a lot of money to most people so do whatever makes you able to sleep at night.

    For me, that would be letting it ride. Otherwise, I would have just never put the last game on the ticket!

    (BTW, I'm in Ontario too. Have fun cashing that down at the head office if you do win; God, what a nightmare!)

    I will be so mad if they force me to take photo to advertise on their sheets....i will refuse...but apparently they can refuse payment if you say you don't want. they probably wont make a fuss since its a big amount but imagine winning millions in the regular lotto and not being able to have privacy. they do a lot of false advertising. especially with the sports lottery where they steal so much. they happily advertise the pro picks pool winners but only a few people know that they take 40% of the pool and pay only 60% as prize.

    i once won a proline ticket with few hockey and nfl games...i played it for $400....in the same store...the clerk didnt know and he ran the ticket 4 times when i asked him to...i won about 4.5k...when i went to the office...they took me to this interview rooms and drilled me with questions in front of a recorded camera...it was almost like in a police station (liek you see it in movies when they talk to criminals)...they said i am not suppose to play for more than $100 ont he same ticket bal blabla i was so pissed and told them why the fuck would they sell it...go tell your clerks not to sell...they said the interview was evidence to fine/suspend the retailer.....eventually they paid me...but it was a hassle....i have cashed in 8 teamer in the past....they kind of treat you as if you did something illegal....they asked so many question...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 4:16 PM ET #64

    just HEDGE and take the 7.5K... dont listen to anyone else.  This game tonight IMO is as close as it gets.  If you play it and win great.. but if not youll be kicking yourself.  Hedge and live to fight another day.  7.5k is 7.5k
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    just HEDGE and take the 7.5K... dont listen to anyone else.  This game tonight IMO is as close as it gets.  If you play it and win great.. but if not youll be kicking yourself.  Hedge and live to fight another day.  7.5k is 7.5k
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 4:28 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by omalleys:


    I will be so mad if they force me to take photo to advertise on their sheets....i will refuse...but apparently they can refuse payment if you say you don't want. they probably wont make a fuss since its a big amount but imagine winning millions in the regular lotto and not being able to have privacy. they do a lot of false advertising. especially with the sports lottery where they steal so much. they happily advertise the pro picks pool winners but only a few people know that they take 40% of the pool and pay only 60% as prize.

    i once won a proline ticket with few hockey and nfl games...i played it for $400....in the same store...the clerk didnt know and he ran the ticket 4 times when i asked him to...i won about 4.5k...when i went to the office...they took me to this interview rooms and drilled me with questions in front of a recorded camera...it was almost like in a police station (liek you see it in movies when they talk to criminals)...they said i am not suppose to play for more than $100 ont he same ticket bal blabla i was so pissed and told them why the fuck would they sell it...go tell your clerks not to sell...they said the interview was evidence to fine/suspend the retailer.....eventually they paid me...but it was a hassle....i have cashed in 8 teamer in the past....they kind of treat you as if you did something illegal....they asked so many question...

    Nice work on the ticket. I got jammed by CIN on mine. 

    But you will definitely have your photo taken. Pretty sure anytime you cash at the office your photo gets taken (or at least over $10k). Seems like you've already been in the interrogation room. Just get someone else to cash the ticket for you. 

    It's a good problem to have, heh.

    All the best on your decision tonight though. 
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    I will be so mad if they force me to take photo to advertise on their sheets....i will refuse...but apparently they can refuse payment if you say you don't want. they probably wont make a fuss since its a big amount but imagine winning millions in the regular lotto and not being able to have privacy. they do a lot of false advertising. especially with the sports lottery where they steal so much. they happily advertise the pro picks pool winners but only a few people know that they take 40% of the pool and pay only 60% as prize.

    i once won a proline ticket with few hockey and nfl games...i played it for $400....in the same store...the clerk didnt know and he ran the ticket 4 times when i asked him to...i won about 4.5k...when i went to the office...they took me to this interview rooms and drilled me with questions in front of a recorded camera...it was almost like in a police station (liek you see it in movies when they talk to criminals)...they said i am not suppose to play for more than $100 ont he same ticket bal blabla i was so pissed and told them why the fuck would they sell it...go tell your clerks not to sell...they said the interview was evidence to fine/suspend the retailer.....eventually they paid me...but it was a hassle....i have cashed in 8 teamer in the past....they kind of treat you as if you did something illegal....they asked so many question...

    Nice work on the ticket. I got jammed by CIN on mine. 

    But you will definitely have your photo taken. Pretty sure anytime you cash at the office your photo gets taken (or at least over $10k). Seems like you've already been in the interrogation room. Just get someone else to cash the ticket for you. 

    It's a good problem to have, heh.

    All the best on your decision tonight though. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 4:29 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by omalleys:


    No books pays 200-1 on 8 team parlays even though that is closer to true odds. Most best parlay payouts offshore for 8 team is 150-1.  Some books offers slightly better but I like 75-1 and 150-1 with 7 and 8teamers because they are closer to the same pay out as most offshore books. Other payouts with proline are big time rip off. 

    The main reason i play these parlays on proline is because the have a lot of bad lines...they don't move the lines like offshore and often bad lines are left hanging....it used to be way better few years ago...this year they are not as good because now they seem to be adjusting the lines on friday sat and sunday.


    yes i understand the bad line argument. 

    actually 5 dimes pays the true odds of about 175 to 1 on an 8 teamer with all -110 lines, and there are sportsbooks in nevada that pay up to 208 for 1 on an 8 teamer. 


    either way good luck on san diego, as i know u not going to hedge for more than 7500.    and hope u have no hassles cashing ur ticket

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    No books pays 200-1 on 8 team parlays even though that is closer to true odds. Most best parlay payouts offshore for 8 team is 150-1.  Some books offers slightly better but I like 75-1 and 150-1 with 7 and 8teamers because they are closer to the same pay out as most offshore books. Other payouts with proline are big time rip off. 

    The main reason i play these parlays on proline is because the have a lot of bad lines...they don't move the lines like offshore and often bad lines are left hanging....it used to be way better few years ago...this year they are not as good because now they seem to be adjusting the lines on friday sat and sunday.


    yes i understand the bad line argument. 

    actually 5 dimes pays the true odds of about 175 to 1 on an 8 teamer with all -110 lines, and there are sportsbooks in nevada that pay up to 208 for 1 on an 8 teamer. 


    either way good luck on san diego, as i know u not going to hedge for more than 7500.    and hope u have no hassles cashing ur ticket

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 4:33 PM ET #67

    how many people and places do u know where u can get $7500 on a game??  most books won't just take that much out of no where espcially on mnf!!!      
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    how many people and places do u know where u can get $7500 on a game??  most books won't just take that much out of no where espcially on mnf!!!      
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 4:33 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by omalleys:


    where can i get this line? i cant fint anything better than +2.5...which books lets you buy that many points? I even have pinnacle and it goes only up to +2.5

    5dimes.com

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    propbet.com

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    where can i get this line? i cant fint anything better than +2.5...which books lets you buy that many points? I even have pinnacle and it goes only up to +2.5

    5dimes.com

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    propbet.com

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 4:35 PM ET #69

    oh sorry, they will limit your straight wager total as a 1st time customer, and will need permission to lay more than $500 on a single wager. Ask of course, before signing up.
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    oh sorry, they will limit your straight wager total as a 1st time customer, and will need permission to lay more than $500 on a single wager. Ask of course, before signing up.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 4:47 PM ET #70

    you are Canadian... bet at pinnacle... they have 30K limits and by far the best odds and reputation of any book... hedge for 7000 so you will still have a grand at stake so you can still root for the chargers but not pull your hair out
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    you are Canadian... bet at pinnacle... they have 30K limits and by far the best odds and reputation of any book... hedge for 7000 so you will still have a grand at stake so you can still root for the chargers but not pull your hair out
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

    how many people and places do u know where u can get $7500 on a game??  most books won't just take that much out of no where espcially on mnf!!!      

    I have access to pinnacle. Current limit for this game's pointspread is 70K...it will probably go up closer to game time. Pinnacle has ridiculously high limits.

    Most offshore books will take too unless you are with some square book like bodog, or all the other books that covers tout...those books shut you down or give you $100 limits after you hit them for a while. When i play offshore i mostly use pinnacle and 5dimes. 
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    how many people and places do u know where u can get $7500 on a game??  most books won't just take that much out of no where espcially on mnf!!!      

    I have access to pinnacle. Current limit for this game's pointspread is 70K...it will probably go up closer to game time. Pinnacle has ridiculously high limits.

    Most offshore books will take too unless you are with some square book like bodog, or all the other books that covers tout...those books shut you down or give you $100 limits after you hit them for a while. When i play offshore i mostly use pinnacle and 5dimes. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 4:50 PM ET #72

    You have to hedge otherwise you're just betting $7,500 on SD

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    You have to hedge otherwise you're just betting $7,500 on SD

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 4:52 PM ET #73

    Dude thats a big ticket.  You just won 7500$ this weekend.   Would you thriw all 7500$ on one game?  Especially a game that nobody has a good beat on.  This is a straight coinflip and you shoukd take some free money.   I wouldnt hedge for 7500$ cuz then you dont care who wins.  Put 5k on denver and root for SD. Then be happy either way.  My own thoughts are that denver will take this game somewhat comfortably but i sure am not sure enough to drop 5 racks on it.  GL whatever you decide
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    Dude thats a big ticket.  You just won 7500$ this weekend.   Would you thriw all 7500$ on one game?  Especially a game that nobody has a good beat on.  This is a straight coinflip and you shoukd take some free money.   I wouldnt hedge for 7500$ cuz then you dont care who wins.  Put 5k on denver and root for SD. Then be happy either way.  My own thoughts are that denver will take this game somewhat comfortably but i sure am not sure enough to drop 5 racks on it.  GL whatever you decide
     
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    5dimes.com

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    propbet.com


    I know the juice is high. I am going to wait closer to game time to see if i can get +3. If i can get +3 at -150 or better, I would hedge 5k. If not, just going to hedge with 2k on +1.5 and hope sd wins. You lose value hedging. 
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    I know the juice is high. I am going to wait closer to game time to see if i can get +3. If i can get +3 at -150 or better, I would hedge 5k. If not, just going to hedge with 2k on +1.5 and hope sd wins. You lose value hedging. 
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2012 - 5:01 PM ET #75

    you wanna lose value then go ahead and buy points... you should hedge the exact line with whatever you feel comfortable having riding on the chargers. trying for a middle is even greedier than letting it ride
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    you wanna lose value then go ahead and buy points... you should hedge the exact line with whatever you feel comfortable having riding on the chargers. trying for a middle is even greedier than letting it ride
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