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    vanzack
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 1:37 PM ET #1

    NFL Season +27.00 units

     

    RECORD THIS YEAR POSTED IS 34-23 (right at 60%)
    UNITS WON AND LOST IS 78-51 (right at 60.5%)

    MNF
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    s -8 (2 units)thefootball

    This game is more about trajectory for me than anything else... Pats in last 3 weeks have been quietly one of the best defenses in the NFL, while the Bears really have nothing to point to - they are close to the bottom in every offensive and defensive stat that matters.

    I realize the temptation to take 8 here, and I rarely lay this kind of points in the NFL - but this is a spot to do it.

    GL

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    NFL Season +27.00 units

     

    RECORD THIS YEAR POSTED IS 34-23 (right at 60%)
    UNITS WON AND LOST IS 78-51 (right at 60.5%)

    MNF
    thefootballPatriot
    s -8 (2 units)thefootball

    This game is more about trajectory for me than anything else... Pats in last 3 weeks have been quietly one of the best defenses in the NFL, while the Bears really have nothing to point to - they are close to the bottom in every offensive and defensive stat that matters.

    I realize the temptation to take 8 here, and I rarely lay this kind of points in the NFL - but this is a spot to do it.

    GL

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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 1:51 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 1:54 PM ET #3

    Agree with Bears assessment but their pass defense actually been quite good.

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    Agree with Bears assessment but their pass defense actually been quite good.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 1:56 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by McXmaster:

    Agree with Bears assessment but their pass defense actually been quite good.

     

    It is their best attribute statistically...

    Last 3 weeks 22nd in NFL (adjusted).  Being 22nd in the NFL really isnt saying much - but I do understand it is their best stat also.

    Whole season 14th in NFL against the pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McXmaster:

    Agree with Bears assessment but their pass defense actually been quite good.

     

    It is their best attribute statistically...

    Last 3 weeks 22nd in NFL (adjusted).  Being 22nd in the NFL really isnt saying much - but I do understand it is their best stat also.

    Whole season 14th in NFL against the pass.

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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 2:16 PM ET #5

    Best of luck Van.  an_cheers

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    Best of luck Van.  an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 2:22 PM ET #6

    @vanzack

    Muchos gracias señor 
    BOL!

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    @vanzack

    Muchos gracias señor 
    BOL!

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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 2:22 PM ET #7

    Van...would you consider Pats -4.5 1st half?

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    Van...would you consider Pats -4.5 1st half?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 2:39 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Van...would you consider Pats -4.5 1st half?

    I honestly do not track HT or quarter statistics.  It would just be a guess for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Van...would you consider Pats -4.5 1st half?

    I honestly do not track HT or quarter statistics.  It would just be a guess for me.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 2:42 PM ET #9

    Good Luck to us, on same side Van clover

    "Stop chasing the money and start chasing the passion."
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    Good Luck to us, on same side Van clover

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 3:32 PM ET #10

    Good luck an_cheers

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    Good luck an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 3:33 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Van...would you consider Pats -4.5 1st half?

    I believe the Bears are 0-6 ATS in the first half peace_5   Tough for the Bears with Fields at QB being a poor passer and the bad OL they have...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Van...would you consider Pats -4.5 1st half?

    I believe the Bears are 0-6 ATS in the first half peace_5   Tough for the Bears with Fields at QB being a poor passer and the bad OL they have...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 3:57 PM ET #12

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    A deeper dive into Bears pass defense success...

    Week 1 - SF, held Trey Lance an unseasoned QB to 160 yards playing in the wetlands of Soldier Field. NOTE: 49ers rushing game as a unit played great.

    Week 2 - GB, Rodgers had no issues throwing against the Bears. NOTE: Aaron Jones ran all over da Bears.

    Week 3 - HOU, the Bears made Davis Mills look like Davis Mills, good passing yards with a few turnovers mixed in. NOTE: Dameon Pierce ran well against the Bears.

    Week 4 - NYG, Bears shut down Daniel Jones completely, will give you that, but he is not a very good passer. Jones is a mobile QB that fits the mold of a game manager type. NOTE: Saquon Barkley ran all over them.

    Week 5 - MIN, Kirk Cousins had a pretty good passing game against them. NOTE: Dalvin Cook ran all over the Bears.

    Week 6 - WAS, Bears shut down Carson Wentz and the Washington running game BUT they happen to be one of the worst teams in the league as a unit particularly on the offensive side of the ball.

    Summary > in 3/6 games Bears shut down Trey Lance, Daniel Jones, and an aging Carson Wentz... not saying Mac Jones is a world beater by any means but I have to believe he'll have better success against the Bears than any of those three.

    So in 5/6 games this season, teams have been able to run on the Bears with ease. The Patriots have a good rushing attack that the Bears won't be able to stop.

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    @McXmaster

     

    A deeper dive into Bears pass defense success...

    Week 1 - SF, held Trey Lance an unseasoned QB to 160 yards playing in the wetlands of Soldier Field. NOTE: 49ers rushing game as a unit played great.

    Week 2 - GB, Rodgers had no issues throwing against the Bears. NOTE: Aaron Jones ran all over da Bears.

    Week 3 - HOU, the Bears made Davis Mills look like Davis Mills, good passing yards with a few turnovers mixed in. NOTE: Dameon Pierce ran well against the Bears.

    Week 4 - NYG, Bears shut down Daniel Jones completely, will give you that, but he is not a very good passer. Jones is a mobile QB that fits the mold of a game manager type. NOTE: Saquon Barkley ran all over them.

    Week 5 - MIN, Kirk Cousins had a pretty good passing game against them. NOTE: Dalvin Cook ran all over the Bears.

    Week 6 - WAS, Bears shut down Carson Wentz and the Washington running game BUT they happen to be one of the worst teams in the league as a unit particularly on the offensive side of the ball.

    Summary > in 3/6 games Bears shut down Trey Lance, Daniel Jones, and an aging Carson Wentz... not saying Mac Jones is a world beater by any means but I have to believe he'll have better success against the Bears than any of those three.

    So in 5/6 games this season, teams have been able to run on the Bears with ease. The Patriots have a good rushing attack that the Bears won't be able to stop.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 3:58 PM ET #13

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     BOL tonite an_cheers

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     BOL tonite an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 3:58 PM ET #14

    Am on the Patriots as well, they should have no problem covering.

    Rhamondre Stevenson is averaging over 5 ypc on the ground. His rushing prop is definitely something worth taking a look at. Good running backs have had no issue against the Bears.

     

     

    - Good luck with your bets

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    Am on the Patriots as well, they should have no problem covering.

    Rhamondre Stevenson is averaging over 5 ypc on the ground. His rushing prop is definitely something worth taking a look at. Good running backs have had no issue against the Bears.

     

     

    - Good luck with your bets

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 4:00 PM ET #15

    @vanzack an_cheers

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    @vanzack an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 4:03 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo989:

    @McXmaster   A deeper dive into Bears pass defense success... Week 1 - SF, held Trey Lance an unseasoned QB to 160 yards playing in the wetlands of Soldier Field. NOTE: 49ers rushing game as a unit played great. Week 2 - GB, Rodgers had no issues throwing against the Bears. NOTE: Aaron Jones ran all over da Bears. Week 3 - HOU, the Bears made Davis Mills look like Davis Mills, good passing yards with a few turnovers mixed in. NOTE: Dameon Pierce ran well against the Bears. Week 4 - NYG, Bears shut down Daniel Jones completely, will give you that, but he is not a very good passer. Jones is a mobile QB that fits the mold of a game manager type. NOTE: Saquon Barkley ran all over them. Week 5 - MIN, Kirk Cousins had a pretty good passing game against them. NOTE: Dalvin Cook ran all over the Bears. Week 6 - WAS, Bears shut down Carson Wentz and the Washington running game BUT they happen to be one of the worst teams in the league as a unit particularly on the offensive side of the ball. Summary > in 3/6 games Bears shut down Trey Lance, Daniel Jones, and an aging Carson Wentz... not saying Mac Jones is a world beater by any means but I have to believe he'll have better success against the Bears than any of those three. So in 5/6 games this season, teams have been able to run on the Bears with ease. The Patriots have a good rushing attack that the Bears won't be able to stop.

    goodpost

    Thanks for taking the time to post that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo989:

    @McXmaster   A deeper dive into Bears pass defense success... Week 1 - SF, held Trey Lance an unseasoned QB to 160 yards playing in the wetlands of Soldier Field. NOTE: 49ers rushing game as a unit played great. Week 2 - GB, Rodgers had no issues throwing against the Bears. NOTE: Aaron Jones ran all over da Bears. Week 3 - HOU, the Bears made Davis Mills look like Davis Mills, good passing yards with a few turnovers mixed in. NOTE: Dameon Pierce ran well against the Bears. Week 4 - NYG, Bears shut down Daniel Jones completely, will give you that, but he is not a very good passer. Jones is a mobile QB that fits the mold of a game manager type. NOTE: Saquon Barkley ran all over them. Week 5 - MIN, Kirk Cousins had a pretty good passing game against them. NOTE: Dalvin Cook ran all over the Bears. Week 6 - WAS, Bears shut down Carson Wentz and the Washington running game BUT they happen to be one of the worst teams in the league as a unit particularly on the offensive side of the ball. Summary > in 3/6 games Bears shut down Trey Lance, Daniel Jones, and an aging Carson Wentz... not saying Mac Jones is a world beater by any means but I have to believe he'll have better success against the Bears than any of those three. So in 5/6 games this season, teams have been able to run on the Bears with ease. The Patriots have a good rushing attack that the Bears won't be able to stop.

    goodpost

    Thanks for taking the time to post that.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 4:08 PM ET #17

    Reluctantly agree.....

    Last night's gane was such a mismatch from the standpoint of Miami pass game versus Pitt defense....yet.

    PITT COVERS... 

    Tonight, like you, 8 to 9 is golden for a gambler,but gotta lay them....

    Bol Van

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    Reluctantly agree.....

    Last night's gane was such a mismatch from the standpoint of Miami pass game versus Pitt defense....yet.

    PITT COVERS... 

    Tonight, like you, 8 to 9 is golden for a gambler,but gotta lay them....

    Bol Van

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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 4:20 PM ET #18

    Bears simply one of the worst rushing defense in the league next to Houston , pats strength is the running game which will open up the Playaction

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    Bears simply one of the worst rushing defense in the league next to Houston , pats strength is the running game which will open up the Playaction

     
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    BOL - enjoy reading your posts.   

     

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    BOL - enjoy reading your posts.   

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 4:43 PM ET #20

    -9.5 -100 worth a play?

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    -9.5 -100 worth a play?

     
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    an_cheers

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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 5:07 PM ET #22

    Love it

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    Love it

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2022 - 6:19 PM ET #24

    their pass d numbers would be even worse if not for the week 1 blizzard against lance and the 49ers

     

    Patriots roll

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    their pass d numbers would be even worse if not for the week 1 blizzard against lance and the 49ers

     

    Patriots roll

     
     
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    Thanks Van the man! Appreciate ya brother

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    Thanks Van the man! Appreciate ya brother

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