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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2013 - 2:53 PM ET #1126

    I do think this guys.....Ready????....SEATTLE will lose outright at home in the playoffs, esp. if they annihilate somrone in the first round..It will be Vegas big payday of the year!!!!!!...It would take "huge" balls to go against Wilson and company here, BUT, think they lose....Now, u noticed that I've used the word "think!".....That's simply because I do not know for certainty,,...If I did I wouldn't be here!!!!.. But with decades of experience in this degenerative racket, I like it when all the stars line up for the squares, and BOOM!!!!,,,,They're castrated!...GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!!,
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    I do think this guys.....Ready????....SEATTLE will lose outright at home in the playoffs, esp. if they annihilate somrone in the first round..It will be Vegas big payday of the year!!!!!!...It would take "huge" balls to go against Wilson and company here, BUT, think they lose....Now, u noticed that I've used the word "think!".....That's simply because I do not know for certainty,,...If I did I wouldn't be here!!!!.. But with decades of experience in this degenerative racket, I like it when all the stars line up for the squares, and BOOM!!!!,,,,They're castrated!...GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!!,
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2013 - 2:59 PM ET #1127

    Quote Originally Posted by inthetank:

    I do think this guys.....Ready????....SEATTLE will lose outright at home in the playoffs, esp. if they annihilate somrone in the first round..It will be Vegas big payday of the year!!!!!!...It would take "huge" balls to go against Wilson and company here, BUT, think they lose....Now, u noticed that I've used the word "think!".....That's simply because I do not know for certainty,,...If I did I wouldn't be here!!!!.. But with decades of experience in this degenerative racket, I like it when all the stars line up for the squares, and BOOM!!!!,,,,They're castrated!...GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!!,

    Yeap, or they dont cover the spread... There's absolutely a need to have a expectation meter for teams and matchups... As far as i know there's no exact way to measure this... This is were a good capper comes in after the line comes out... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by inthetank:

    I do think this guys.....Ready????....SEATTLE will lose outright at home in the playoffs, esp. if they annihilate somrone in the first round..It will be Vegas big payday of the year!!!!!!...It would take "huge" balls to go against Wilson and company here, BUT, think they lose....Now, u noticed that I've used the word "think!".....That's simply because I do not know for certainty,,...If I did I wouldn't be here!!!!.. But with decades of experience in this degenerative racket, I like it when all the stars line up for the squares, and BOOM!!!!,,,,They're castrated!...GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!!,

    Yeap, or they dont cover the spread... There's absolutely a need to have a expectation meter for teams and matchups... As far as i know there's no exact way to measure this... This is were a good capper comes in after the line comes out... 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2013 - 5:12 PM ET #1128

    Seattle getting a first round bye, do they lose the first or second game? I would say the first game because it will be most likely against a lower seed, but just like tank said, I don't know for sure


    But I like my odds 
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    Seattle getting a first round bye, do they lose the first or second game? I would say the first game because it will be most likely against a lower seed, but just like tank said, I don't know for sure


    But I like my odds 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2013 - 5:16 PM ET #1129

    If theres a disproportion of the dogs weakness vs the points they receive against a hi powered team... 3 7 10 and the half points are what to look for.. 
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    If theres a disproportion of the dogs weakness vs the points they receive against a hi powered team... 3 7 10 and the half points are what to look for.. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2013 - 6:27 PM ET #1130

    Just throwing this out there for you guys tell me what you think... Im not even gonna watch this game,, headed out for dinner... 

    CHI +13
    If this game doesnt come out i will double my play on the Spurs+7... Im expecting atleast one of these two come out... Now if Chi does come out i will play half of the winnings on  the spurs

    Chi+13
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    Just throwing this out there for you guys tell me what you think... Im not even gonna watch this game,, headed out for dinner... 

    CHI +13
    If this game doesnt come out i will double my play on the Spurs+7... Im expecting atleast one of these two come out... Now if Chi does come out i will play half of the winnings on  the spurs

    Chi+13
    Spur+7
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2013 - 6:34 PM ET #1131

    I usually eat the 6.. i totally agree with you... Philly is a different type of city... Thanks for breaking this down... 
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    I usually eat the 6.. i totally agree with you... Philly is a different type of city... Thanks for breaking this down... 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2013 - 9:39 PM ET #1132

    yup people will never be able to see vicks true potential. hands down in my opinion the best football player in his era. but he was limited to playing the guy we all wanted to see lose. he had no choice he was bk after that courtcase. but then guys like eli manning wins 2 sb's. i wouldnt even have him be my qb at the beach playing pick up ball.

    nice play so far holding. i usually do the unders system on thursday games
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    yup people will never be able to see vicks true potential. hands down in my opinion the best football player in his era. but he was limited to playing the guy we all wanted to see lose. he had no choice he was bk after that courtcase. but then guys like eli manning wins 2 sb's. i wouldnt even have him be my qb at the beach playing pick up ball.

    nice play so far holding. i usually do the unders system on thursday games
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2013 - 10:21 PM ET #1133

    It is a shame... Hes one of very few electrifying players with that much talent out there and that dont always come around...  Not the brightest however,, but oh well life goes on... 
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    It is a shame... Hes one of very few electrifying players with that much talent out there and that dont always come around...  Not the brightest however,, but oh well life goes on... 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2013 - 10:36 PM ET #1134

    However guys, he was so much better  if he was a  "dog!"....eh?........So much great tanking and ability going to waste now!....He was great to fade....However was very obvious at times....JMHO!!!!
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    However guys, he was so much better  if he was a  "dog!"....eh?........So much great tanking and ability going to waste now!....He was great to fade....However was very obvious at times....JMHO!!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2013 - 11:01 PM ET #1135

    Phew another close win... These refs sure are special... Landed at 12 lol
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    Phew another close win... These refs sure are special... Landed at 12 lol
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 4:52 AM ET #1136

    Thanksgiving....Detroit game. Total is 50.5 I took the over, final score 40-10.  

    Eagles/Cards...Cards +3.5. Last drive of the game. Ball on AZ 5 with Eagles leading 24-21. 3rd Down...Eagles get stopped short of first down, uh oh they are going to kick the FG and go up by 7. Wait..Ref throws flag for Defensive Holding!?! New set of downs, Eagles kneel on ball, win by 3. 

    Its been a strange year.
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    Thanksgiving....Detroit game. Total is 50.5 I took the over, final score 40-10.  

    Eagles/Cards...Cards +3.5. Last drive of the game. Ball on AZ 5 with Eagles leading 24-21. 3rd Down...Eagles get stopped short of first down, uh oh they are going to kick the FG and go up by 7. Wait..Ref throws flag for Defensive Holding!?! New set of downs, Eagles kneel on ball, win by 3. 

    Its been a strange year.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 9:24 AM ET #1137

    Well guys this tops all for me....Years ago I was booking and had the over-under for the Buffalo night game at 41.5.....during the day, guys unloaded on me on the over....so at night before the game, i moved it to 42.5..Now they come in on the under.....With 2 minutes to go, Buffalo is first down at the others "one" yard line....the score is 28-14 in favor of buffalo....RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE!....KELLEY KNEELS ON IT FOR THE FINAL TWO MINUTES, AND I GET CRUSHED BOTH WAYS....not too shady?????eh????....AND I GOT MY TITS SCRUBBED REAL GOOD IN THAT GAME!!!!...
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    Well guys this tops all for me....Years ago I was booking and had the over-under for the Buffalo night game at 41.5.....during the day, guys unloaded on me on the over....so at night before the game, i moved it to 42.5..Now they come in on the under.....With 2 minutes to go, Buffalo is first down at the others "one" yard line....the score is 28-14 in favor of buffalo....RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE!....KELLEY KNEELS ON IT FOR THE FINAL TWO MINUTES, AND I GET CRUSHED BOTH WAYS....not too shady?????eh????....AND I GOT MY TITS SCRUBBED REAL GOOD IN THAT GAME!!!!...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 9:39 AM ET #1138

    Quote Originally Posted by inthetank:

    Well guys this tops all for me....Years ago I was booking and had the over-under for the Buffalo night game at 41.5.....during the day, guys unloaded on me on the over....so at night before the game, i moved it to 42.5..Now they come in on the under.....With 2 minutes to go, Buffalo is first down at the others "one" yard line....the score is 28-14 in favor of buffalo....RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE!....KELLEY KNEELS ON IT FOR THE FINAL TWO MINUTES, AND I GET CRUSHED BOTH WAYS....not too shady?????eh????....AND I GOT MY TITS SCRUBBED REAL GOOD IN THAT GAME!!!!...

    Damn Tank,,
    Back then when computers wernt around i know of a few that got smashed... Now everything is computerized and alot of sharps are behind those algos... Some books even have two types , sheep and sharp lines... Some of them now have a lay off system and they still try to middle all day...  
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    Quote Originally Posted by inthetank:

    Well guys this tops all for me....Years ago I was booking and had the over-under for the Buffalo night game at 41.5.....during the day, guys unloaded on me on the over....so at night before the game, i moved it to 42.5..Now they come in on the under.....With 2 minutes to go, Buffalo is first down at the others "one" yard line....the score is 28-14 in favor of buffalo....RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE!....KELLEY KNEELS ON IT FOR THE FINAL TWO MINUTES, AND I GET CRUSHED BOTH WAYS....not too shady?????eh????....AND I GOT MY TITS SCRUBBED REAL GOOD IN THAT GAME!!!!...

    Damn Tank,,
    Back then when computers wernt around i know of a few that got smashed... Now everything is computerized and alot of sharps are behind those algos... Some books even have two types , sheep and sharp lines... Some of them now have a lay off system and they still try to middle all day...  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 9:53 AM ET #1139

    Quote Originally Posted by arrgy:

    Thanksgiving....Detroit game. Total is 50.5 I took the over, final score 40-10.  

    Eagles/Cards...Cards +3.5. Last drive of the game. Ball on AZ 5 with Eagles leading 24-21. 3rd Down...Eagles get stopped short of first down, uh oh they are going to kick the FG and go up by 7. Wait..Ref throws flag for Defensive Holding!?! New set of downs, Eagles kneel on ball, win by 3. 

    Its been a strange year.

    These situations happen very often now and when you think about it ,, there's really not that many games to begin with... My guess is the organization really has a handle on it along with the numbers.. Which is why i play the whole board.. I dont see it happening on all 16 games lol.. And if the betting is spread out... I always had a theory that if i were to control all  16 i would atleast need 9 to turn profit. 9 or more ,,,,or should i say greater than .500... Just try to learn from those half point losses,, this year i suspect those half point losses or pushes occur 4-5 percent of the times just on sides... But i hear you guys,, i got hit when GB-MIN played and the game itself push,, and i had the FAV LOL... I mean who doesnt have those games... This is where a series of vig can hedge middlers.. Also ways safer to a sharp in your pocket or to rent a sharp line... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by arrgy:

    Thanksgiving....Detroit game. Total is 50.5 I took the over, final score 40-10.  

    Eagles/Cards...Cards +3.5. Last drive of the game. Ball on AZ 5 with Eagles leading 24-21. 3rd Down...Eagles get stopped short of first down, uh oh they are going to kick the FG and go up by 7. Wait..Ref throws flag for Defensive Holding!?! New set of downs, Eagles kneel on ball, win by 3. 

    Its been a strange year.

    These situations happen very often now and when you think about it ,, there's really not that many games to begin with... My guess is the organization really has a handle on it along with the numbers.. Which is why i play the whole board.. I dont see it happening on all 16 games lol.. And if the betting is spread out... I always had a theory that if i were to control all  16 i would atleast need 9 to turn profit. 9 or more ,,,,or should i say greater than .500... Just try to learn from those half point losses,, this year i suspect those half point losses or pushes occur 4-5 percent of the times just on sides... But i hear you guys,, i got hit when GB-MIN played and the game itself push,, and i had the FAV LOL... I mean who doesnt have those games... This is where a series of vig can hedge middlers.. Also ways safer to a sharp in your pocket or to rent a sharp line... 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 10:12 AM ET #1140

    another thanksgiving game. det patriots few years back.. i believe ov und was 23.5 first half. i went big on the under the game was 14-0 or somethingi believe with 30 seconds left. lions score make it 14-7. my under still looked okay.  patriots 1 time out left. drive the ball from own 20 to lions 30 in less than 15 seconds. i thought i was crazy i thot i saw the clock on 7 seconds for 3 straight plays. and the tv wouldnt show the game clock consistently. 17-7 goes over
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    another thanksgiving game. det patriots few years back.. i believe ov und was 23.5 first half. i went big on the under the game was 14-0 or somethingi believe with 30 seconds left. lions score make it 14-7. my under still looked okay.  patriots 1 time out left. drive the ball from own 20 to lions 30 in less than 15 seconds. i thought i was crazy i thot i saw the clock on 7 seconds for 3 straight plays. and the tv wouldnt show the game clock consistently. 17-7 goes over
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 11:00 AM ET #1141

    Its like department stores in america... There's a seperate charge built into the price when you buy clothing there.. That extra 5% pays for the long term losses due to theft... We can sit here all night and name countless situations and it woulnt really serve any good... I myself have assumed this cost... Now if any of you go throught the paintstaking process of Counting these situations in any given league and documenting it,, or have the experience come up with educated guess,, You are kinda stuck... When i lose by half a point i blame myself first,, but i get over quick because ive assumed that percentage.. This year alone i can say has surpassed quite a few years according to my data... Those numbers are landing at a higher rate... Regardless of how this phenomenon occurs,, i take note and include this into my cost of doing business... Just like those department stores... 
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    Its like department stores in america... There's a seperate charge built into the price when you buy clothing there.. That extra 5% pays for the long term losses due to theft... We can sit here all night and name countless situations and it woulnt really serve any good... I myself have assumed this cost... Now if any of you go throught the paintstaking process of Counting these situations in any given league and documenting it,, or have the experience come up with educated guess,, You are kinda stuck... When i lose by half a point i blame myself first,, but i get over quick because ive assumed that percentage.. This year alone i can say has surpassed quite a few years according to my data... Those numbers are landing at a higher rate... Regardless of how this phenomenon occurs,, i take note and include this into my cost of doing business... Just like those department stores... 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 11:02 AM ET #1142

    good point. and the only ones to blame are ourselves 
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    good point. and the only ones to blame are ourselves 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 11:07 AM ET #1143

    And you know those two wins that i snagged yesterday? I didnt even watch the game... Nba is so pathetic... Eventhough i won,, i dont need those narrow margins to stick to my head watching each and every play... I treat it like a stock and not a game of BBALL... 
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    And you know those two wins that i snagged yesterday? I didnt even watch the game... Nba is so pathetic... Eventhough i won,, i dont need those narrow margins to stick to my head watching each and every play... I treat it like a stock and not a game of BBALL... 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 11:39 AM ET #1144

     I treat it like a stock and not a game of BBALL... 


    i like lakers huge tonight 
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     I treat it like a stock and not a game of BBALL... 


    i like lakers huge tonight 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 11:49 AM ET #1145

    Quote Originally Posted by sunster19:

    Why wouldn't they have picked the nyj or giants then???


    Agree with the NY teams. The statement about the Pat's is garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunster19:

    Why wouldn't they have picked the nyj or giants then???


    Agree with the NY teams. The statement about the Pat's is garbage.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 2:36 PM ET #1146

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    And you know those two wins that i snagged yesterday? I didnt even watch the game... Nba is so pathetic... Eventhough i won,, i dont need those narrow margins to stick to my head watching each and every play... I treat it like a stock and not a game of BBALL... 

    man you missed some bigtime favoring calls for the sperms. nice calls and great thread!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    And you know those two wins that i snagged yesterday? I didnt even watch the game... Nba is so pathetic... Eventhough i won,, i dont need those narrow margins to stick to my head watching each and every play... I treat it like a stock and not a game of BBALL... 

    man you missed some bigtime favoring calls for the sperms. nice calls and great thread!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 2:47 PM ET #1147

    Big time free throw contests? No thanks lol
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    Big time free throw contests? No thanks lol
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2013 - 6:31 PM ET #1148

    3 plays for nba tonight guys,, all flat bets...thoughts?

    PHI+6
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    3 plays for nba tonight guys,, all flat bets...thoughts?

    PHI+6
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2013 - 11:43 AM ET #1149

    Phi+6 
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    Good job on the lakers  kaboons,, i fell asleep after these games... 
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    Phi+6 
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    Good job on the lakers  kaboons,, i fell asleep after these games... 
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2013 - 11:46 AM ET #1150

    3 nba plays for saturday.. 

    NY   (Lock)
    WAS ,, if ny doesnt come out ,, im on boston... 
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    3 nba plays for saturday.. 

    NY   (Lock)
    WAS ,, if ny doesnt come out ,, im on boston... 
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