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    Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks

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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:21 PM ET #2501

    some of you guys are just stupid.

    KC beat GB packers, yes the packers.
    KC could have been in the playoffs if they fired their coach after week 2. thats a knock on their management.


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    some of you guys are just stupid.

    KC beat GB packers, yes the packers.
    KC could have been in the playoffs if they fired their coach after week 2. thats a knock on their management.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:23 PM ET #2502

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    You might not want to admit it: but no one who flat out sucks could do what Tebow did in that “one game.” 

    The Tebow and Flynn games aren’t even really comparable, IMO.

    Tebow did his against the #1 defense in a postseason game while having more pressure on him than any other player in the postseason.

    Flynn did his against a defense that is one of the 10 worst in the NFL in a meaningless game with no pressure.

     


    But anyone who knows the Steelers knows that Ryan Clark is a major part of that defense. And odds are he wouldn't have allowed Thomas to score in overtime and he would have helped prevent some of those big plays because he's that good of a player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    You might not want to admit it: but no one who flat out sucks could do what Tebow did in that “one game.” 

    The Tebow and Flynn games aren’t even really comparable, IMO.

    Tebow did his against the #1 defense in a postseason game while having more pressure on him than any other player in the postseason.

    Flynn did his against a defense that is one of the 10 worst in the NFL in a meaningless game with no pressure.

     


    But anyone who knows the Steelers knows that Ryan Clark is a major part of that defense. And odds are he wouldn't have allowed Thomas to score in overtime and he would have helped prevent some of those big plays because he's that good of a player.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:23 PM ET #2503

    Quote Originally Posted by minion0812:



    I know, shooter is funny. You and I can come on here and say he played great and had a great game. After the weeks vs Buff and KC which could have been the worst performance by a qb in the history of the NFL    Buff 13-29 185 yards 1td 3 int 37.9 rating
     KC 6-22 60 yards 1 int 20.6 rating

    Shooter says "well he took a 1-4 team to the playoffs" lol

    This Tebow thread is like a heavyweight fight. Blows on both sides. At least me and sparky can admit when we have been hit and tebow played well. You still give a runaround when he sucks balls in games and can't admit your hits.

    Here’s what you just don’t seem to be getting:  you and sparky are claiming he sucks.  I’m not claiming he’s great.  I’m not claiming he’s good.  I’m not claiming he is going to be a pro bowler or a hall of famer.  I’m just saying he doesn’t suck.

    Tebow playing poorly in some loses while leading a 1-4 team to a division title isn’t a hit to my claim that he doesn’t suck (especially when it would have made a difference in only one of those losses).  

    However, Tebow having one of the greatest postseason performances by a QB in NFL history (at least statistically) is a MAJOR blow to your claims that he sucks.

     

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    I know, shooter is funny. You and I can come on here and say he played great and had a great game. After the weeks vs Buff and KC which could have been the worst performance by a qb in the history of the NFL    Buff 13-29 185 yards 1td 3 int 37.9 rating
     KC 6-22 60 yards 1 int 20.6 rating

    Shooter says "well he took a 1-4 team to the playoffs" lol

    This Tebow thread is like a heavyweight fight. Blows on both sides. At least me and sparky can admit when we have been hit and tebow played well. You still give a runaround when he sucks balls in games and can't admit your hits.

    Here’s what you just don’t seem to be getting:  you and sparky are claiming he sucks.  I’m not claiming he’s great.  I’m not claiming he’s good.  I’m not claiming he is going to be a pro bowler or a hall of famer.  I’m just saying he doesn’t suck.

    Tebow playing poorly in some loses while leading a 1-4 team to a division title isn’t a hit to my claim that he doesn’t suck (especially when it would have made a difference in only one of those losses).  

    However, Tebow having one of the greatest postseason performances by a QB in NFL history (at least statistically) is a MAJOR blow to your claims that he sucks.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:29 PM ET #2504

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Well...you'd see highlights of Matt Prater's kick and Willis McGahee's TD run. But headlines were always "Tebow does it again" and the breakdowns were on Tebow.

    Because Tim Tebow is a ratings machine and most people don’t even know who Prater is.

    That doesn’t mean they are claiming Denver’s 6 game win streak was all because of Tebow.

     

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    Well...you'd see highlights of Matt Prater's kick and Willis McGahee's TD run. But headlines were always "Tebow does it again" and the breakdowns were on Tebow.

    Because Tim Tebow is a ratings machine and most people don’t even know who Prater is.

    That doesn’t mean they are claiming Denver’s 6 game win streak was all because of Tebow.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:31 PM ET #2505

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Well yea. I'm not one to usually post half naked girls (no offense, just that's what the majority does). I thought I'd put another one on since I had that one for so long.

    No complaints here.  The girls you pick are almost always hot.  Just don’t go greyhound on us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    Well yea. I'm not one to usually post half naked girls (no offense, just that's what the majority does). I thought I'd put another one on since I had that one for so long.

    No complaints here.  The girls you pick are almost always hot.  Just don’t go greyhound on us.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:34 PM ET #2506

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Because Tim Tebow is a ratings machine and most people don’t even know who Prater is.

    That doesn’t mean they are claiming Denver’s 6 game win streak was all because of Tebow.

     


    And that's a big reason why I have hated this Tebow media firestorm. It's ESPN's job to get people noticed. A lot of fans know Sebastian Janikowski because even when he misses a 60 yarder...they show him attempt the 60 yarder.

    Matt Prater has been so good this year that he deserves to be known. I understand the argument about kickers...but only when your kicker misses a big kick is when you start to appreciate how great some kickers are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Because Tim Tebow is a ratings machine and most people don’t even know who Prater is.

    That doesn’t mean they are claiming Denver’s 6 game win streak was all because of Tebow.

     


    And that's a big reason why I have hated this Tebow media firestorm. It's ESPN's job to get people noticed. A lot of fans know Sebastian Janikowski because even when he misses a 60 yarder...they show him attempt the 60 yarder.

    Matt Prater has been so good this year that he deserves to be known. I understand the argument about kickers...but only when your kicker misses a big kick is when you start to appreciate how great some kickers are.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:35 PM ET #2507

    Quote Originally Posted by minion0812:



    haha no no, I even mean reg season games. Any kind of game. 20+ yards a completion per pass alone would be incredible!

    Well considering Drew Brees is averaging about 12 yards per completion (IIRC) I wouldn’t expect many games from anyone averaging over 20.

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    haha no no, I even mean reg season games. Any kind of game. 20+ yards a completion per pass alone would be incredible!

    Well considering Drew Brees is averaging about 12 yards per completion (IIRC) I wouldn’t expect many games from anyone averaging over 20.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:36 PM ET #2508

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Here’s what you just don’t seem to be getting:  you and sparky are claiming he sucks.  I’m not claiming he’s great.  I’m not claiming he’s good.  I’m not claiming he is going to be a pro bowler or a hall of famer.  I’m just saying he doesn’t suck.

    Tebow playing poorly in some loses while leading a 1-4 team to a division title isn’t a hit to my claim that he doesn’t suck (especially when it would have made a difference in only one of those losses).  

    However, Tebow having one of the greatest postseason performances by a QB in NFL history (at least statistically) is a MAJOR blow to your claims that he sucks.

     



    Cool then I can agree he doens't suck. I just don't think he's good or even average. Nothing this kid does sucks cause he's just too good of a person. He does often look like he sucks in many games but overall because of his odd great games or comebacks gets him out of the shit category for me but no more then just below average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Here’s what you just don’t seem to be getting:  you and sparky are claiming he sucks.  I’m not claiming he’s great.  I’m not claiming he’s good.  I’m not claiming he is going to be a pro bowler or a hall of famer.  I’m just saying he doesn’t suck.

    Tebow playing poorly in some loses while leading a 1-4 team to a division title isn’t a hit to my claim that he doesn’t suck (especially when it would have made a difference in only one of those losses).  

    However, Tebow having one of the greatest postseason performances by a QB in NFL history (at least statistically) is a MAJOR blow to your claims that he sucks.

     



    Cool then I can agree he doens't suck. I just don't think he's good or even average. Nothing this kid does sucks cause he's just too good of a person. He does often look like he sucks in many games but overall because of his odd great games or comebacks gets him out of the shit category for me but no more then just below average.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:40 PM ET #2509

    Quote Originally Posted by johnyjohn:

    John 3:16

    Tebow completed 316 yards pass

    Tebow also averaged 31.6 yards per completion 

    Steelers time of possesion  31:06

    what are the odds that happens?


    The game also had a 31.6 in the ratings during the 4th quarter and OT.

    I think I heard that was the most watched NFL wildcard playoff game in over 20 years.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyjohn:

    John 3:16

    Tebow completed 316 yards pass

    Tebow also averaged 31.6 yards per completion 

    Steelers time of possesion  31:06

    what are the odds that happens?


    The game also had a 31.6 in the ratings during the 4th quarter and OT.

    I think I heard that was the most watched NFL wildcard playoff game in over 20 years.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyjohn:

    John 3:16

    Tebow completed 316 yards pass

    Tebow also averaged 31.6 yards per completion 

    Steelers time of possesion  31:06

    what are the odds that happens?



    I was trying to figure out what the Steelers time of possession meant and now I know.

    It means they didn't get the ball in overtime, leading to Denver winning, keeping them at 31:06.

    Can it get any more ironic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyjohn:

    John 3:16

    Tebow completed 316 yards pass

    Tebow also averaged 31.6 yards per completion 

    Steelers time of possesion  31:06

    what are the odds that happens?



    I was trying to figure out what the Steelers time of possession meant and now I know.

    It means they didn't get the ball in overtime, leading to Denver winning, keeping them at 31:06.

    Can it get any more ironic.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:44 PM ET #2511

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    But anyone who knows the Steelers knows that Ryan Clark is a major part of that defense. And odds are he wouldn't have allowed Thomas to score in overtime and he would have helped prevent some of those big plays because he's that good of a player.

    One could say the same thing about Denver missing Brian Dawkins.

    Both teams had injuries going in and during the game.

    That doesn’t change the fact that the Steelers were still the much better team who should have at least been able to win SU as a huge favorite.

     

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    But anyone who knows the Steelers knows that Ryan Clark is a major part of that defense. And odds are he wouldn't have allowed Thomas to score in overtime and he would have helped prevent some of those big plays because he's that good of a player.

    One could say the same thing about Denver missing Brian Dawkins.

    Both teams had injuries going in and during the game.

    That doesn’t change the fact that the Steelers were still the much better team who should have at least been able to win SU as a huge favorite.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:49 PM ET #2512

    Tebow played very well yesterday no doubt about it. But what annoys me that if Tebow plays terrible the whole blame would be put on the defense, coaching, dropped passes, etc. And please dont tell me he does not have any weapons around him on offense.

    Royal was a 90+ reception guy a few years ago.
    Thomas is a #2 on half the teams in the league.
    Decker a 70-80 catch guy on most teams. Great blocker.
    Mcgahee still a quality RB (Was behind Rice the last few years on Balt)
    There O-line is no doubt a top ten in the NFL. (The most important)

    Not to take anything away from Tebow Yesterday, (He was great especially with the long ball) but you cannot say he does not have any talent around him on offense straightshooter.
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    Tebow played very well yesterday no doubt about it. But what annoys me that if Tebow plays terrible the whole blame would be put on the defense, coaching, dropped passes, etc. And please dont tell me he does not have any weapons around him on offense.

    Royal was a 90+ reception guy a few years ago.
    Thomas is a #2 on half the teams in the league.
    Decker a 70-80 catch guy on most teams. Great blocker.
    Mcgahee still a quality RB (Was behind Rice the last few years on Balt)
    There O-line is no doubt a top ten in the NFL. (The most important)

    Not to take anything away from Tebow Yesterday, (He was great especially with the long ball) but you cannot say he does not have any talent around him on offense straightshooter.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:50 PM ET #2513

    Quote Originally Posted by minion0812:



    Yeah it does because overtime those kind of stats sustain drives. Clearly if you throw 17 completions it would be more then that number you threw down but that is besides the point and I know what you're saying. I just think you can't keep living by 10-21 for 316. Just won't happen often at 31.6 yards a clip. Great on him and the Denver O together to get that but over time the shorter completions with some throws down the field is obviously the bets choice.
      You're still a goof!  God, Shooter, how can you reason with morons like this??!!
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    Yeah it does because overtime those kind of stats sustain drives. Clearly if you throw 17 completions it would be more then that number you threw down but that is besides the point and I know what you're saying. I just think you can't keep living by 10-21 for 316. Just won't happen often at 31.6 yards a clip. Great on him and the Denver O together to get that but over time the shorter completions with some throws down the field is obviously the bets choice.
      You're still a goof!  God, Shooter, how can you reason with morons like this??!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    And that's a big reason why I have hated this Tebow media firestorm. It's ESPN's job to get people noticed. A lot of fans know Sebastian Janikowski because even when he misses a 60 yarder...they show him attempt the 60 yarder.

    Matt Prater has been so good this year that he deserves to be known. I understand the argument about kickers...but only when your kicker misses a big kick is when you start to appreciate how great some kickers are.

    Prater should get more attention, but like I said the sports media doesn’t focus on who deserves the attention (or blame).  They focus on whoever is best for ratings.

    I’ve been saying for a long time that college’s need to put more emphasis on finding good kickers.

    I don’t know if this is still the case, but I remember a few years ago Mack Brown didn’t even offer scholarships to kickers.  To me that is simply insane.  How is a 3rd string linebacker more important than a starting kicker?

     

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    And that's a big reason why I have hated this Tebow media firestorm. It's ESPN's job to get people noticed. A lot of fans know Sebastian Janikowski because even when he misses a 60 yarder...they show him attempt the 60 yarder.

    Matt Prater has been so good this year that he deserves to be known. I understand the argument about kickers...but only when your kicker misses a big kick is when you start to appreciate how great some kickers are.

    Prater should get more attention, but like I said the sports media doesn’t focus on who deserves the attention (or blame).  They focus on whoever is best for ratings.

    I’ve been saying for a long time that college’s need to put more emphasis on finding good kickers.

    I don’t know if this is still the case, but I remember a few years ago Mack Brown didn’t even offer scholarships to kickers.  To me that is simply insane.  How is a 3rd string linebacker more important than a starting kicker?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    I heard someone on ESPN finally say something that I've been saying all along. Now I don't know what their initial take on this situation was because I haven't listened to them in a while but Mike and Mike were saying how in past big games, like San Diego and Chicago, you could find other guys to give the credit to. But this game...it was all Tim Tebow.

    And I was shocked when I heard them actually look back on it and say Tebow wasn't the one to do it all in the past because he's the one who got all the credit.
      How can anyone "do it all"  by himself?  Nobody with half a brain is saying that!  Just give the guy credit for being a great leader and a great football player.
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    I heard someone on ESPN finally say something that I've been saying all along. Now I don't know what their initial take on this situation was because I haven't listened to them in a while but Mike and Mike were saying how in past big games, like San Diego and Chicago, you could find other guys to give the credit to. But this game...it was all Tim Tebow.

    And I was shocked when I heard them actually look back on it and say Tebow wasn't the one to do it all in the past because he's the one who got all the credit.
      How can anyone "do it all"  by himself?  Nobody with half a brain is saying that!  Just give the guy credit for being a great leader and a great football player.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:54 PM ET #2516

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    One could say the same thing about Denver missing Brian Dawkins.

    Both teams had injuries going in and during the game.

    That doesn’t change the fact that the Steelers were still the much better team who should have at least been able to win SU as a huge favorite.

     



    I agree with this. Steelers no matter what should have won SU. I blame them for shitting the bed. I can't believe that D got blistered and looked that bad on their game plan. Just flat out blew it. 1-1 all day and Ike Taylor was pathetic. Tebow was great but Steelers D was more pathetic then tebow great.
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    One could say the same thing about Denver missing Brian Dawkins.

    Both teams had injuries going in and during the game.

    That doesn’t change the fact that the Steelers were still the much better team who should have at least been able to win SU as a huge favorite.

     



    I agree with this. Steelers no matter what should have won SU. I blame them for shitting the bed. I can't believe that D got blistered and looked that bad on their game plan. Just flat out blew it. 1-1 all day and Ike Taylor was pathetic. Tebow was great but Steelers D was more pathetic then tebow great.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    But anyone who knows the Steelers knows that Ryan Clark is a major part of that defense. And odds are he wouldn't have allowed Thomas to score in overtime and he would have helped prevent some of those big plays because he's that good of a player.
      I knew Ryan Clark's name would come up.  Took you long enough.  And if Mel Blount and Donnie "the torpedo" Shell would have been there....................we would have kicked Tebow's ass!!
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    But anyone who knows the Steelers knows that Ryan Clark is a major part of that defense. And odds are he wouldn't have allowed Thomas to score in overtime and he would have helped prevent some of those big plays because he's that good of a player.
      I knew Ryan Clark's name would come up.  Took you long enough.  And if Mel Blount and Donnie "the torpedo" Shell would have been there....................we would have kicked Tebow's ass!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

      You're still a goof!  God, Shooter, how can you reason with morons like this??!!


    A goof? Really eh? Where the fuck have you been in this whole thread? You pop up that last couple weeks after a handful of pokes here and there and I'm a moron with my opinion?

    I was talking with shooter that over time 10-21 at 316 isn't going to get it done because that's impossible. You can't have 10 completions at 31.6 yards a clip all the time. Yeah, great game by tebow i admit but 17-21 is often better then 10-21 over the course of time.

    Also, yeah I was soooo off last week when Tebow looked amazing right? Fuck off. I'm ashamed you like the bruins.  
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      You're still a goof!  God, Shooter, how can you reason with morons like this??!!


    A goof? Really eh? Where the fuck have you been in this whole thread? You pop up that last couple weeks after a handful of pokes here and there and I'm a moron with my opinion?

    I was talking with shooter that over time 10-21 at 316 isn't going to get it done because that's impossible. You can't have 10 completions at 31.6 yards a clip all the time. Yeah, great game by tebow i admit but 17-21 is often better then 10-21 over the course of time.

    Also, yeah I was soooo off last week when Tebow looked amazing right? Fuck off. I'm ashamed you like the bruins.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by minion0812:



    Cool then I can agree he doens't suck. I just don't think he's good or even average. Nothing this kid does sucks cause he's just too good of a person. He does often look like he sucks in many games but overall because of his odd great games or comebacks gets him out of the shit category for me but no more then just below average.

     

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    Cool then I can agree he doens't suck. I just don't think he's good or even average. Nothing this kid does sucks cause he's just too good of a person. He does often look like he sucks in many games but overall because of his odd great games or comebacks gets him out of the shit category for me but no more then just below average.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timdog09:

    Tebow played very well yesterday no doubt about it. But what annoys me that if Tebow plays terrible the whole blame would be put on the defense, coaching, dropped passes, etc. And please dont tell me he does not have any weapons around him on offense.

    Royal was a 90+ reception guy a few years ago.
    Thomas is a #2 on half the teams in the league.
    Decker a 70-80 catch guy on most teams. Great blocker.
    Mcgahee still a quality RB (Was behind Rice the last few years on Balt)
    There O-line is no doubt a top ten in the NFL. (The most important)

    Not to take anything away from Tebow Yesterday, (He was great especially with the long ball) but you cannot say he does not have any talent around him on offense straightshooter.

    You must not have watched the coverage after the loss last week to Kansas City.

    This the NFL.  Every team is going to have some offensive weapons.  Tim Tebow just happens to have, arguably, one of the worst sets of them.

     

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    Tebow played very well yesterday no doubt about it. But what annoys me that if Tebow plays terrible the whole blame would be put on the defense, coaching, dropped passes, etc. And please dont tell me he does not have any weapons around him on offense.

    Royal was a 90+ reception guy a few years ago.
    Thomas is a #2 on half the teams in the league.
    Decker a 70-80 catch guy on most teams. Great blocker.
    Mcgahee still a quality RB (Was behind Rice the last few years on Balt)
    There O-line is no doubt a top ten in the NFL. (The most important)

    Not to take anything away from Tebow Yesterday, (He was great especially with the long ball) but you cannot say he does not have any talent around him on offense straightshooter.

    You must not have watched the coverage after the loss last week to Kansas City.

    This the NFL.  Every team is going to have some offensive weapons.  Tim Tebow just happens to have, arguably, one of the worst sets of them.

     

     
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    “How much credit does John Elway get for Tim Tebow’s performance against the Steelers” was the question Doug Stewart was asked on ESPN.

    He replied “on a scale of 1-10 I’m going to give Elway a 10.” 

    Some of these Tebow haters would give credit to a guy selling programs in the parking lot before they gave it to Tebow.

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    “How much credit does John Elway get for Tim Tebow’s performance against the Steelers” was the question Doug Stewart was asked on ESPN.

    He replied “on a scale of 1-10 I’m going to give Elway a 10.” 

    Some of these Tebow haters would give credit to a guy selling programs in the parking lot before they gave it to Tebow.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 3:26 PM ET #2522

    [Quote: Originally Posted by StraightShooter]

    You must not have watched the coverage after the loss last week to Kansas City.

    This the NFL.  Every team is going to have some offensive weapons.  Tim Tebow just happens to have, arguably, one of the worst sets of them.


    Thats based on your opinon.

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    You must not have watched the coverage after the loss last week to Kansas City.

    This the NFL.  Every team is going to have some offensive weapons.  Tim Tebow just happens to have, arguably, one of the worst sets of them.


    Thats based on your opinon.

     
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    Hence the word “arguably.”

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    Hence the word “arguably.”

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 3:35 PM ET #2524

    The guy just wins....
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 3:37 PM ET #2525

    Mcaghee is terrible he only averaged 4.8 yds a carry which is ranked #2 in the league among the top ten rushers. But that was probably because of Tebow as you always say.
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    Mcaghee is terrible he only averaged 4.8 yds a carry which is ranked #2 in the league among the top ten rushers. But that was probably because of Tebow as you always say.
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